Re: [SLUG] Unix Giga-Party
Herbert Xu wrote:
Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was hoping to receive a few more contributions! :)
OK, can't leave gawk out can we,
gawk 'BEGIN { print strftime("%c", 10^9) }'
This is really a scripting job.
MySQL is handy for quick numeric calcs, but giga seconds is messy:
mysql -e 'select FROM_UNIXTIME(10,"%a %b %e %T %Y") giga_second'
The C solution is verbose, clunky, and takes Real Programming:
echo -e "#include time.h\n#include stdio.h\nint main() { time_t const t = 1e9;
printf(\"%s\",ctime(t)); return 1;
}"s.c | gcc s.c; ./a.out
As always, trojan-check source code. The above could have read:
echo -e "#include nefarious.h\nint main() { return awful_crack(); }"s.c | gcc s.c;
./a.out
Tomorrow, the C++ version, if line length allows.
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Re: [SLUG] Unix Giga-Party
quote who="Rick Welykochy"
MySQL is handy for quick numeric calcs, but giga seconds is messy:
Sick puppy. Mind you...
echo -e "? echo date('D M j H:i:s Y', 10) . '\n'; ?" | php -q
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Re: [SLUG] Unix Giga-Party
5 REM With the recent talk about BASIC being useless 6 REM I just had to demonstrate the utility of BASIC 7 REM in the modern Linux community. 9 LET DAY$="" 00010 LET DATE$="" 00011 LET TIME$="" 00012 LET YEAR=0 00020 GOTO 50010 00030 LET DATE$=" September" 00040 GOTO 00600 00050 GOTO 00060 00055 FOR I=1 TO 2001 00056 LET YEAR=YEAR+1 00057 NEXT I 00058 PRINT DAY$,DATE$,YEAR,TIME$ 00059 END 00060 LET TIME$=" 11:46:40" 00070 GOTO 00055 00600 LET DATE$=DATE$+" the ninth" 00610 GOTO 00050 50010 LET DAY$="Sunday" 50020 GOTO 00030 50030 REM A finer bowl of spaghetti was never prepared. :-) 50040 REM Hell, I once wrote an 'Eliza' clone in BASIC. 50050 REM (Yes, I am seeking counselling) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Unix Giga-Party
begin ... upon a time: Rick Welykochy wrote:
On Thu, 15 Feb 2001, Ken Yap wrote:
That's what I mean by powers of 2. We could have "clock bit 12 changed
state" parties. :-)
Geek overload detector: RED ALERT! RED ALERT!
Scotty: Captain, the computer's holo-matrix is imploding. I think
Ken's hit the geek event horizon!
Capt: Scotty, reroute all comms to slug-chat. Steady as she goes.
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Rick now recants. I've found a solution to the gigasecond
output program using INTERCAL (see http://intercal.com).
My output from the INTERCAL script is as follows:
Mon Sep 1,291:23:12 2
The complete source for a bash script that does the job is attached.
- attachment: INTErCAL.BASH --
#!/bin/bash
STOPTHISTHANG=1
IntercalCompiler=ICC
Intercal_EN_Compiler=$ICC
Intercal_DE_Compiler=echo
CXX=$Intercal_DE_Compiler
ECHO="echo -n"
GCC=${ECHO}
if \
[ ! \
"$STOPTHISTHANG" \
-ne \
"0" ]
then
echo
echo "Hiyall"
fi
Kyk8k9kookoo=" 1011101000110010001101010101
010101 0000100100010111011010110001\n
1 1101 0010111011010001011101101000101110110101
101101 00010110110010111010001101101
100 01 0001000100101110101110000101000110011\n\r
1 1 01 00011010111010111011010011011\r
10 01 000110100010111010110100010110111\r
0 11 0001101000101 1000101 1011010001 1110110111\r
1 01 11 11 00 01 1000101 x.;.;;''``^^--_+redrum10 100191921723 oh shit"
echo -e -n --version /dev/null 21
kermit_hash_source=$Kyk8k9kookoo
# METANOTE: see NOTES below
# MY $ECHO=echo
ECHO="$ECHO -e"
# perl -epeepee "redrummer eats heart" /dev/null
badabing='Mon Sep 1,291:23:12 2'
badabing_v2="${badabing}001"
CORBA_Broker_Bork=Rejkyvik
if [ "$1" = "bada-bing" ]; then
# $(ECHO) f-f-f--f-f-f--f---f--f-f-f-f-f-f--A-R_T
echo $badabing_v2
elif [ "$1" = "debug" ]; then
$ECHO $kermit_hash_source
elif [ "$1" = "hell" ]; then
$ECHO "'$0: demonstrate giga-second calculations using INTERNAL'"
elif [ "$1" = "help" -o "$1" = "--help" -o "$1" = "-?" ]; then
$GCC "ICL505 SINCE ME: HEL FILE CLASSIFRIED 'TOP SECRET' RATED 'X'
ON THE WAY I DROPPED A HIT
CORRECT HOUSE AND RE-LEVERAGE"
echo -e "\n\n\nTry This: $0 bada-ping\n\n"
else
echo "ICL007K WARNING: MI-5/CIA CLASSIFIED LEVEL A-GRADE POOP
ON THE WAY TO THE STORE
CORRECT HORSE AND RESNUBIT"
fi
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Errata [was: re:re: ReRe: [SLUG] Unix Giga-Party]dorka]]
In the INTERCAL giga-second script V0. , the --help option is incorrect. Replace with this non-patch file: bada-bing -- Rick Welykochy || Praxis Services Pty Limited "Tired of being a crash test dummy for Microsoft? Try Linux" -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: Errata [was: re:re: ReRe: [SLUG] Unix Giga-Party]dorka]]
quote who="Rick Welykochy" In the INTERCAL giga-second script V0. , the --help option is incorrect. GAR! I thought the only penance worthy of my PHP one-liner was to hack something up in INTERCAL. You know that X Files (probably the only one I remember very well) with the dude who has to go west after having sub-sonic government experiments turn his brain into mush? Yeah, just like that. - Jeff -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://linux.conf.au/ -- We're kind of like Canada, only we hate ourselves more, and it's wetter around the edges. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Unix Giga-Party
Tom Massey wrote: 5 REM With the recent talk about BASIC being useless 6 REM I just had to demonstrate the utility of BASIC 7 REM in the modern Linux community. [cut] 50050 REM (Yes, I am seeking counselling) Rick Welykochy wrote: [cut] #!/bin/bash STOPTHISTHANG=1 IntercalCompiler=ICC Intercal_EN_Compiler=$ICC Intercal_DE_Compiler=echo [cut] CORBA_Broker_Bork=Rejkyvik Capital city of Iceland? if [ "$1" = "bada-bing" ]; then # $(ECHO) f-f-f--f-f-f--f---f--f-f-f-f-f-f--A-R_T echo $badabing_v2 elif [ "$1" = "debug" ]; then $ECHO $kermit_hash_source elif [ "$1" = "hell" ]; then $ECHO "'$0: demonstrate giga-second calculations using INTERNAL'" elif [ "$1" = "help" -o "$1" = "--help" -o "$1" = "-?" ]; then $GCC "ICL505 SINCE ME: HEL FILE CLASSIFRIED 'TOP SECRET' RATED 'X' ON THE WAY I DROPPED A HIT CORRECT HOUSE AND RE-LEVERAGE" echo -e "\n\n\nTry This: $0 bada-ping\n\n" There are some seriously, seriously screwed up individuals on this list. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Unix Giga-Party
On Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 12:02:41AM +1100, Rick Welykochy wrote: output program using INTERCAL (see http://intercal.com). You're a very disturbed individual ... Must be time for a couple of assembler versions. The first one is a whopping 1240 bytes. It cheats by hard-coding the length of the string returned by ctime though: ; gcc -o tmp tmp.S -nostartfiles; strip tmp; objcopy -R .bss -R .data tmp .global _start .extern ctime _start: push$10 ; time push%esp; time callctime mov %eax, %ecx mov $25, %edx ; ctime always returns a 25 byte string xor %ebx, %ebx inc %ebx; stdout xor %eax, %eax addb$4, %al ; write int $0x80 ; syscall mov %ebx, %eax ; exit xor %ebx, %ebx ; status int $0x80 ; syscall By defining the time string as a constant, we can make this much smaller - 320 bytes. I don't think it can be made any smaller without hand-crafting the ELF file: ; gcc -o tmp tmp.S -nostartfiles -nostdlib; strip tmp; objcopy -R .bss -R .data tmp .global _start _start: xor %edx, %edx movb $(time_end - time), %dl; length mov $time, %ecx ; buffer pointer xor %ebx ,%ebx inc %ebx; stdout xor %eax, %eax addb$4, %al ; write int $0x80 ; syscall mov %ebx, %eax ; exit xor %ebx, %ebx ; status int $0x80 ; syscall time: .ascii "Sun Sep 9 11:46:18 2001\n" time_end: Cheers, John -- Object-[dis]oriented INTERCAL. I have seen the compiler, and it runs. Why do I now feel like the hero in one of those H. P. Lovecraft stories who has seen something no mortal man was ever meant to see, and who is marginally less sane thereafter? - Charlie Stross -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Unix Giga-Party
John Clarke wrote:
On Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 12:02:41AM +1100, Rick Welykochy wrote:
output program using INTERCAL (see http://intercal.com).
You're a very disturbed individual ...
Agreed. It is insane trying to convince a well-informed troup like
the Penguinillas that a bash script is actually INTERCAL.
Of course, the real solution for the giga-second in INTERCAL
is as follows:
DO PLEASE DON'T COME FROM HERE
PLEASE DON'T GOSUB #1,2'123'\#125
DO (NEXT) 123
DO PLEASE IDLE(10)
PLEASE FORGET #23123
DO PRINT #10/#13
.1 - - - '"':23/#232323'~.9:9+23'"'
.2 - '"':23/#232323'~.9:9+23'"'
(1) CONTINUE
SPREAD 1
DON'T PLEASE READ OUT "Sep 9 11:46:40 %d%d%d%d{1}"
If anyone can get it to compile run, they are seriously ill and
should seek psychiatric treatment well before the next Slug meeting.
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Re: [SLUG] Unix Giga-Party
Rick Welykochy was once rumoured to have said:
John Clarke wrote:
On Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 12:02:41AM +1100, Rick Welykochy wrote:
output program using INTERCAL (see http://intercal.com).
You're a very disturbed individual ...
Agreed. It is insane trying to convince a well-informed troup like
the Penguinillas that a bash script is actually INTERCAL.
Of course, the real solution for the giga-second in INTERCAL
is as follows:
Nononono. You should do *everything* in Postscript.
---BEGIN
% datecalc.ps
% - Chris Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
/mins { 60 mul } bind def
/hours { 60 mins mul } bind def
/days { 24 hours mul } bind def
/months [
31 days % jan
28 days % feb
31 days % mar
30 days % apr
31 days % may
30 days % jun
31 days % jul
31 days % aug
30 days % sep
31 days % oct
30 days % nov
31 days % dec
] def
/leapmonths [
31 days % jan
29 days % feb
31 days % mar
30 days % apr
31 days % may
30 days % jun
31 days % jul
31 days % aug
30 days % sep
31 days % oct
30 days % nov
31 days % dec
] def
/secyear 365 days def
/secleapyear 366 days def
% year leapyear bool
/leapyear {
% is it a leap year?
dup 4 mod 0 eq exch
dup 100 mod 0 ne exch
400 mod 0 eq
or and
} def
% time_t calcdate year month day hours minutes seconds
/calcdate {
% build a small dictionary for us to use as variable space
8 dict begin
/year 1970 def
/month 1 def
/day 1 def
/hour 0 def
/minute 0 def
/second 0 def
% do years first.
{
year leapyear {secleapyear} {secyear} ifelse % time_t seconds
1 index 1 index lt {exit} if
sub /year year 1 add store
} loop % will exit with: time_t seconds
pop
% now months.
year leapyear {leapmonths} {months} ifelse % time_t [arry]
/monarray exch store
{
monarray month 1 sub get % time_t month_secs
1 index 1 index lt {exit} if
sub /month month 1 add store
} loop % will exit with: time_t monthsecs
pop
% days, hours, minutes and seconds are realtively easy now.
% days
dup 1 days idiv dup day add /day exch store
1 days mul sub
% hours
dup 1 hours idiv dup hour add /hour exch store
1 hours mul sub
% minutes
dup 1 mins idiv dup minute add /minute exch store
1 mins mul sub
% seconds are whatever is left
/second exch store
[ year month day hour minute second ]
end
} def
% [year month day hours minutes seconds printdate] -
/printdate {
dup 2 get 2 string cvs print ( ) print
dup 1 get [(Jan) (Feb) (Mar) (Apr) (May) (Jun) (Jul) (Aug) (Sep) (Oct) (Nov) (Dec)]
exch 1 sub get print ( ) print
dup 0 get 4 string cvs print (, ) print
dup 3 get 2 string cvs print (:) print
dup 4 get 2 string cvs dup length 1 eq {(0) print} if print (:) print
dup 5 get 2 string cvs dup length 1 eq {(0) print} if print ( GMT\n) print
} def
10 calcdate printdate
quit
---END---
C.
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Re: [SLUG] Unix Giga-Party
On Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 11:28:45AM +1100, Rick Welykochy wrote: John Clarke wrote: On Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 12:02:41AM +1100, Rick Welykochy wrote: output program using INTERCAL (see http://intercal.com). You're a very disturbed individual ... Agreed. It is insane trying to convince a well-informed troup like the Penguinillas that a bash script is actually INTERCAL. No-one's head exploded, so it obviously wasn't INTERCAL. Of course, the real solution for the giga-second in INTERCAL is as follows: [snipped to protect our remaining sanity from further assault] Bastard. Don't do that again, it's not fair to the more innocent list members. I think there are still one or two left. If anyone can get it to compile run, they are seriously ill and should seek psychiatric treatment well before the next Slug meeting. Indeed. Truly the Bastard Language From Hell. Cheers, John -- "Give a man a computer program and you give him a headache, but teach him to program computers and you give him the power to create headaches for others for the rest of his life..." -- R. B. Forest -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Unix Giga-Party
Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
python -c 'import time ; print time.strftime("%c", time.localtime(10**9))'
perl -e 'print scalar(localtime(10**9)), "\n"'
ruby -e 'puts Time.at(10**9)'
Bloat! Try
date -d '1970/01/01 utc + 10 sec'
or if you really hate typing 0's, try
date -d "1970/01/01 utc + 1$(printf "%0.9d" 0) sec"
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Re: [SLUG] Unix Giga-Party
quote who="Herbert Xu" Bloat! Try date -d '1970/01/01 utc + 10 sec' I was hoping to receive a few more contributions! :) Hardly surprised to get a "Bloat!" rating from Herbert 'cut' Xu. ;) - Jeff -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://linux.conf.au/ -- Lego is the plural of Lego. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Unix Giga-Party
This one time, at band camp, Jeff Waugh said:
quote who="Herbert Xu"
Bloat! Try
date -d '1970/01/01 utc + 10 sec'
I was hoping to receive a few more contributions! :)
#include time.h
#include stdio.h
void main() {
time_t time = 10;
puts(ctime(time));
}
Dammit, the binary still comes out to be 3k after stripping.
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Re: [SLUG] Unix Giga-Party
Herbert Xu wrote:
Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
python -c 'import time ; print time.strftime("%c", time.localtime(10**9))'
perl -e 'print scalar(localtime(10**9)), "\n"'
ruby -e 'puts Time.at(10**9)'
Bloat! Try
date -d '1970/01/01 utc + 10 sec'
date -d "1970/01/01 utc + 1$(printf "%0.9d" 0) sec"
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Actually I prefer Jeff's original one.
* It explicitly has the Giga in it and therefore is in te right spirit.
* Windows users won't be able to work out to add 10^9 secs to 1970 so
won't know the date and won't turn up. Don't want the riff-raff now do
we :-)
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Re: [SLUG] Unix Giga-Party
James Wilkinson wrote: Dammit, the binary still comes out to be 3k after stripping. Then obviously you need to read this: http://www.muppetlabs.com/~breadbox/software/tiny/teensy.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Unix Giga-Party
...and whilst you are at it, some of you younger ones might wish to put
the next important date in the diary:
date -d "1970/01/01 utc + 1$(printf "%0.10d" 0) sec"
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On Thu, 15 Feb 2001, Michael Lake wrote:
Herbert Xu wrote:
Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
python -c 'import time ; print time.strftime("%c", time.localtime(10**9))'
perl -e 'print scalar(localtime(10**9)), "\n"'
ruby -e 'puts Time.at(10**9)'
Bloat! Try
date -d '1970/01/01 utc + 10 sec'
date -d "1970/01/01 utc + 1$(printf "%0.9d" 0) sec"
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Actually I prefer Jeff's original one.
* It explicitly has the Giga in it and therefore is in te right spirit.
* Windows users won't be able to work out to add 10^9 secs to 1970 so
won't know the date and won't turn up. Don't want the riff-raff now do
we :-)
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Re: [SLUG] Unix Giga-Party
Damn it, that one doesn't seem correct some how. -- Howard. (crawling back to his box) LANNet Computing Associates http://lannetlinux.com "...well, it worked before _you_ touched it!" On Thu, 15 Feb 2001, Howard Lowndes wrote: ...and whilst you are at it, some of you younger ones might wish to put the next important date in the diary: date -d "1970/01/01 utc + 1$(printf "%0.10d" 0) sec" -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Unix Giga-Party
| ...and whilst you are at it, some of you younger ones might wish to put | the next important date in the diary: | date -d "1970/01/01 utc + 1$(printf "%0.10d" 0) sec" But as I pointed out in a similar thread long ago, decimal numbers mean nothing to computers. While you'll be celebrating, the flip-flops in your computer will not. You should really be investigating interesting moments involving powers of 2. Something like the Unix 2^30-Party. :-) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Unix Giga-Party
On Thu, 15 Feb 2001, Ken Yap wrote: But as I pointed out in a similar thread long ago, decimal numbers mean nothing to computers. While you'll be celebrating, the flip-flops in your computer will not. You should really be investigating interesting moments involving powers of 2. Something like the Unix 2^30-Party. :-) Whose gonna party? Your transistors or you? Hmmm ... maybe geeks should be looking forward to the binary millenium in the year 2048 ;) -- Rick Welykochy || Praxis Services -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Unix Giga-Party
| But as I pointed out in a similar thread long ago, decimal numbers mean | nothing to computers. While you'll be celebrating, the flip-flops in | your computer will not. You should really be investigating interesting | moments involving powers of 2. Something like the Unix 2^30-Party. :-) | |Whose gonna party? Your transistors or you? | |Hmmm ... maybe geeks should be looking forward to the binary |millenium in the year 2048 ;) You're thick. I partied for both 2000 and 2001. :-) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Unix Giga-Party
Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was hoping to receive a few more contributions! :)
OK, can't leave gawk out can we,
gawk 'BEGIN { print strftime("%c", 10^9) }'
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Re: [SLUG] Unix Giga-Party
I think you all have your priorities wrong. You should be looking up excuses (like you need one) to party tonight, tomorrow, day after tomorrow etc etc ad infinitum (spelling correctors will be persecuted) not in 9mths, X years etc.. If there *must* be geek-like excuses, how about these: - Another days uptime party - Used my machine productively party - Compiled a programme party - Upgraded my system party - Somewhere, somehow, another Linux convert was made party - Millions of MS Windows machines crashed today party - My machine performed as expected party - Too many beers at lunch, sent stupid email party You get the drift ;) On Thu, 15 Feb 2001 12:46:51 Rick Welykochy wrote: On Thu, 15 Feb 2001, Ken Yap wrote: But as I pointed out in a similar thread long ago, decimal numbers mean nothing to computers. While you'll be celebrating, the flip-flops in your computer will not. You should really be investigating interesting moments involving powers of 2. Something like the Unix 2^30-Party. :-) Whose gonna party? Your transistors or you? Hmmm ... maybe geeks should be looking forward to the binary millenium in the year 2048 ;) -- Rick Welykochy || Praxis Services -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug -- Cheers, Craige. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
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|I think you all have your priorities wrong. You should be looking up |excuses (like you need one) to party tonight, tomorrow, day after |tomorrow etc etc ad infinitum (spelling correctors will be persecuted) |not in 9mths, X years etc.. That's what I mean by powers of 2. We could have "clock bit 12 changed state" parties. :-) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Unix Giga-Party
On Thu, 15 Feb 2001, Ken Yap wrote: That's what I mean by powers of 2. We could have "clock bit 12 changed state" parties. :-) Geek overload detector: RED ALERT! RED ALERT! Scotty: Captain, the computer's holo-matrix is imploding. I think Ken's hit the geek event horizon! Capt: Scotty, reroute all comms to slug-chat. Steady as she goes. --endlog-- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Unix Giga-Party
This one time, at band camp, Craige McWhirter said: I think you all have your priorities wrong. You should be looking up excuses (like you need one) to party tonight, tomorrow, day after tomorrow etc etc ad infinitum (spelling correctors will be persecuted) not in 9mths, X years etc.. Ok, party in #slug at date -d "1970/01/01 utc + 982213200 sec". -- "Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to using (o_ ' Windows NT for mission-critical applications." //\ -- What Yoda *meant* to say, Devin L. Ganger, scary.devil.monastery v_/_ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
