[SLUG] VERY worrying

[Gnuthad]

Most have probably seen this but.

http://slashdot.org/articles/01/09/08/0238200.shtml

VERY worrying, even for us here in Australia.

Gnuthad


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RE: [SLUG] VERY worrying

[Silcock, Stephen]

Wouldn't this apply in the US only?  I know the Americans *think* they rule
the world, and many countries will probably follow along like well behaved
little puppies; but surely there'd be countries that would continue to
produce plain vanilla hardware (with a corresponding increase in commerce
from people who prefer their PC's be their own)?  I'm thinking China for
one... they seem to have this paranoid obsession with not having US
encryption in their hardware.

It would also seem an excellent way to encourage vendors to pack up and move
offshore; a bold move given the growing popularity of Linux and the BSD's...

S.   :)

> Most have probably seen this but.
> 
> http://slashdot.org/articles/01/09/08/0238200.shtml
> 
> VERY worrying, even for us here in Australia.
> 
> Gnuthad


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RE: [SLUG] VERY worrying

[Howard Lowndes]

I think "market forces" is more likely.

If your main market is the US then you are just likely to adjust your
manufacturing to suit that market, and if the smaller markets don't like it -
tough.  It's no skin off the manufacturer's nose.

Quoting "Silcock, Stephen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> 
> Wouldn't this apply in the US only?  I know the Americans *think* they
> rule
> the world, and many countries will probably follow along like well
> behaved
> little puppies; but surely there'd be countries that would continue to
> produce plain vanilla hardware (with a corresponding increase in
> commerce
> from people who prefer their PC's be their own)?  I'm thinking China
> for
> one... they seem to have this paranoid obsession with not having US
> encryption in their hardware.
> 
> It would also seem an excellent way to encourage vendors to pack up and
> move
> offshore; a bold move given the growing popularity of Linux and the
> BSD's...
> 
> S.   :)
> 
> > Most have probably seen this but.
> > 
> > http://slashdot.org/articles/01/09/08/0238200.shtml
> > 
> > VERY worrying, even for us here in Australia.
> > 
> > Gnuthad
> 
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RE: [SLUG] VERY worrying

[Greg Hosler]

On 10-Sep-2001 Silcock, Stephen wrote:
> 
> Wouldn't this apply in the US only?

maybe, maybe not. depends upon the implementation. Of the law is passed, all
PC's, handhelds, etc manufactured in, or for the US market will be subject to
having the encryption hardware.

If the implementation requires a connection to be verified by said hardware,
then I can see it being the case that you and I might not be able to connect to
servers that are _in_ the US, because our external PC's would not be able to 
pass said verification. For example.

-Greg

> I know the Americans *think* they rule
> the world, and many countries will probably follow along like well behaved
> little puppies; but surely there'd be countries that would continue to
> produce plain vanilla hardware (with a corresponding increase in commerce
> from people who prefer their PC's be their own)?  I'm thinking China for
> one... they seem to have this paranoid obsession with not having US
> encryption in their hardware.
> 
> It would also seem an excellent way to encourage vendors to pack up and move
> offshore; a bold move given the growing popularity of Linux and the BSD's...
> 
> S.   :)
> 
>> Most have probably seen this but.
>> 
>> http://slashdot.org/articles/01/09/08/0238200.shtml
>> 
>> VERY worrying, even for us here in Australia.
>> 
>> Gnuthad
> 
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Re: [SLUG] VERY worrying

[Rev Simon Rumble]

On Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 08:26:51AM +1000, Silcock, Stephen uttered:

> Wouldn't this apply in the US only?

Notice Howard is in the US right now to lick Texan butt and try and
negotiate a free trade agreement with them?  Guess what the kicker
will be for the US?  That's right, their most profitable industries
(entertainment and software) will need "protection".  Sacrifice one
heavily subsidised, not very profitable industry (farming) for the far
more profitable ones.

This has already happened with the North American Free Trade Agreement
(NAFTA) and was brought up at the recent Free Trade Agreement of the
Americas conference (much to the disgust of some South American
countries who have been compulsorily licensing AIDS drug patents).

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