Re: [SLUG] linked in - please block
On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 7:24 AM, Ken Foskey kfos...@tpg.com.au wrote: I was there for that discussion. That does not cover what is in my opinion spam. Facebook and linkedin have their place but not in the context of this list. Sure, and as the archive says, the admins try and prevent spam reaching SLUG using Postfix, SpamAssassin and Mailman checks on content of the mails, rather than the From address My response was specifically directed at Nick Andrew's statement that Presumably the slug list should reject email from non-subscribers. Ken Foskey Ps: I use facebook and linkedin regularly. On 23/12/2010, at 12:54 PM, James Polley jamezpol...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 10:56 AM, Nick Andrew n...@nick-andrew.net wrote: On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 09:51:56AM +1100, Nigel Allen wrote: I have already complained to linkedin - not received a response yet. I'm not sure how linkedin can know that slug@slug.org.au is a mailing list and not an individual's email address. Presumably the slug list should reject email from non-subscribers, or alternately send a confirm request to the sender (which will eliminate automated emails like linkedin). A formal motion passed at a general meeting in 2003 requires that the SLUG mailing lists not reject email from non-subscribers, or even force such emails to be moderated. http://lists.slug.org.au/archives/slug/2003/10/msg00645.html has details on the proposed options and the voting. Nick. -- PGP Key ID = 0x418487E7 http://www.nick-andrew.net/ PGP Key fingerprint = B3ED 6894 8E49 1770 C24A 67E3 6266 6EB9 4184 87E7 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] linked in - please block
James, doesn't the slug committee already filter out other spam emails? (If not - then doesn't this list use some sort of 'computer' assisted filtering). Spam by its very nature is not desired. It should be blocked. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] linked in - please block
I was there for that discussion. That does not cover what is in my opinion spam. Facebook and linkedin have their place but not in the context of this list. Ken Foskey Ps: I use facebook and linkedin regularly. On 23/12/2010, at 12:54 PM, James Polley jamezpol...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 10:56 AM, Nick Andrew n...@nick-andrew.net wrote: On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 09:51:56AM +1100, Nigel Allen wrote: I have already complained to linkedin - not received a response yet. I'm not sure how linkedin can know that slug@slug.org.au is a mailing list and not an individual's email address. Presumably the slug list should reject email from non-subscribers, or alternately send a confirm request to the sender (which will eliminate automated emails like linkedin). A formal motion passed at a general meeting in 2003 requires that the SLUG mailing lists not reject email from non-subscribers, or even force such emails to be moderated. http://lists.slug.org.au/archives/slug/2003/10/msg00645.html has details on the proposed options and the voting. Nick. -- PGP Key ID = 0x418487E7 http://www.nick-andrew.net/ PGP Key fingerprint = B3ED 6894 8E49 1770 C24A 67E3 6266 6EB9 4184 87E7 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] linked in - please block
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 10:56 AM, Nick Andrew n...@nick-andrew.net wrote: On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 09:51:56AM +1100, Nigel Allen wrote: I have already complained to linkedin - not received a response yet. I'm not sure how linkedin can know that slug@slug.org.au is a mailing list and not an individual's email address. Presumably the slug list should reject email from non-subscribers, or alternately send a confirm request to the sender (which will eliminate automated emails like linkedin). A formal motion passed at a general meeting in 2003 requires that the SLUG mailing lists not reject email from non-subscribers, or even force such emails to be moderated. http://lists.slug.org.au/archives/slug/2003/10/msg00645.html has details on the proposed options and the voting. Nick. -- PGP Key ID = 0x418487E7 http://www.nick-andrew.net/ PGP Key fingerprint = B3ED 6894 8E49 1770 C24A 67E3 6266 6EB9 4184 87E7 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] linked in - please block
Naming and shaming... Person at fault this time is Kevin Waterson, employee of http://www.blueglue.com.au/ (And the account is deleted now by me, seeing as you can reset the password if you have access to the email, who'd have thought that using a public mailing list as a contact email would let someone else change your password and close your account for you.) My apoligies for the extra emails created by doing this though, I just got fed up with it. Hopefully he'll have the good sense not to do it again. On 14 December 2010 11:46, Nigel Allen d...@edrs.com.au wrote: On 14/12/2010 10:56, Nick Andrew wrote: On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 09:51:56AM +1100, Nigel Allen wrote: I have already complained to linkedin - not received a response yet. I'm not sure how linkedin can know that slug@slug.org.au is a mailing list and not an individual's email address. Because I told them perhaps? :) Presumably the slug list should reject email from non-subscribers, or alternately send a confirm request to the sender (which will eliminate automated emails like linkedin). Nick. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] linked in - please block
No one should be signing up using a mailing list email address. However, if a user lets linkedin 'borrow' their email addresses then this problem (mailing list get spammed) will occur time and time again. imho are just a bunch of spammers. - note you cannot permanently opt out of *all* linkedin email (afaik) .(hell even facebook has / had that option). I don't see any point in shaming those who get tricked by linkedin's spammy practices. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] linked in - please block
Menno Schaaf wrote: Naming and shaming... Person at fault this time is Kevin Waterson, employee of http://www.blueglue.com.au/ I know Kevin and I also know that he doesn't work for BlueGlue. He's the guy behind the http://www.phppro.org/ site. I suspect that someone's using a fake identity to troll the SLUG list. -- Del -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] linked in - please block
Can we please block all emails from invitati...@linkedin.com We should probably also moderate anything from @linkedin.com. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] linked in - please block
On 14/12/2010 09:37, kfos...@tpg.com.au wrote: Can we please block all emails from invitati...@linkedin.com We should probably also moderate anything from @linkedin.com. I have already complained to linkedin - not received a response yet. N/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] linked in - please block
kfos...@tpg.com.au wrote: Can we please block all emails from invitati...@linkedin.com We should probably also moderate anything from @linkedin.com. I would also suggest a permanent ban as well as tarring and feathering for the offenders who sign up any mailing list to linkedin.com/facebook.com/iamanidiot.com/etc. Erik -- -- Erik de Castro Lopo http://www.mega-nerd.com/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] linked in - please block
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Erik de Castro Lopo mle+s...@mega-nerd.com wrote: kfos...@tpg.com.au wrote: Can we please block all emails from invitati...@linkedin.com We should probably also moderate anything from @linkedin.com. I would also suggest a permanent ban as well as tarring and feathering for the offenders who sign up any mailing list to linkedin.com/facebook.com/iamanidiot.com/etc. Erik -- -- Erik de Castro Lopo http://www.mega-nerd.com/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html Some prick from this list joined my addy up to Licked-in around a year and a half ago via SLUG. I hope this is not still coming up from time to time somehow. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] linked in - please block
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 09:51:56AM +1100, Nigel Allen wrote: I have already complained to linkedin - not received a response yet. I'm not sure how linkedin can know that slug@slug.org.au is a mailing list and not an individual's email address. Presumably the slug list should reject email from non-subscribers, or alternately send a confirm request to the sender (which will eliminate automated emails like linkedin). Nick. -- PGP Key ID = 0x418487E7 http://www.nick-andrew.net/ PGP Key fingerprint = B3ED 6894 8E49 1770 C24A 67E3 6266 6EB9 4184 87E7 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] linked in - please block
On 14/12/2010 10:56, Nick Andrew wrote: On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 09:51:56AM +1100, Nigel Allen wrote: I have already complained to linkedin - not received a response yet. I'm not sure how linkedin can know that slug@slug.org.au is a mailing list and not an individual's email address. Because I told them perhaps? :) Presumably the slug list should reject email from non-subscribers, or alternately send a confirm request to the sender (which will eliminate automated emails like linkedin). Nick. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html