Re: Insulting racial terms (was Re: [SLUG] Re: [chat] Version control)
2009/3/22 Kevin Saenz kevsa...@spinaweb.com.au We are Not Political Correctness R Us. thus can we all Drop this Political Correctness Nightmare and start discussing Linux related topics? If only Robert had said whoa there kemosabe! Everything would have been just dandy. Everyone under the age of about 30 - spanish or not - would be going like what?. :) Question: Where does the Lone Ranger take his garbage? Answer: To the dump, to the dump, to the dump-dump-dump! [wikipedia] Hi-yo Silver, away! -- Daniel Bush http://blog.web17.com.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: Insulting racial terms (was Re: [SLUG] Re: [chat] Version control)
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 10:39 PM, Daniel Bush dlb.id...@gmail.com wrote: If only Robert had said whoa there kemosabe! Everything would have been just dandy. http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/7286/RANGERFARSIDE.GIF -- Michael Davies Do what you think is interesting, do something that mich...@the-davies.netyou think is fun and worthwhile, because otherwise http://michaeldavies.org you won't do it well anyway. -- Brian Kernighan -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: Insulting racial terms (was Re: [SLUG] Re: [chat] Version control)
I'm really upset... I'm white, male, not crippled or deformed or a dwarf, no disabilities, have a job, not over 65, I'm not a lesbian, or a whale. How come *I* don't get insulted! This is discrimination. Michael Davies wrote: On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 10:39 PM, Daniel Bush dlb.id...@gmail.com wrote: If only Robert had said whoa there kemosabe! Everything would have been just dandy. http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/7286/RANGERFARSIDE.GIF -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: Insulting racial terms (was Re: [SLUG] Re: [chat] Version control)
LMAO gold. On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 10:39 PM, Daniel Bush dlb.id...@gmail.com wrote: If only Robert had said whoa there kemosabe! Everything would have been just dandy. http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/7286/RANGERFARSIDE.GIF -- Michael Davies Do what you think is interesting, do something that mich...@the-davies.netyou think is fun and worthwhile, because otherwise http://michaeldavies.org you won't do it well anyway. -- Brian Kernighan -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: Insulting racial terms (was Re: [SLUG] Re: [chat] Version control)
Did you know that 'git' in english means, uhm, git ? :D Someone, get Linus on the line! 2009/3/25 david da...@kenpro.com.au I'm really upset... I'm white, male, not crippled or deformed or a dwarf, no disabilities, have a job, not over 65, I'm not a lesbian, or a whale. How come *I* don't get insulted! This is discrimination. Michael Davies wrote: On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 10:39 PM, Daniel Bush dlb.id...@gmail.com wrote: If only Robert had said whoa there kemosabe! Everything would have been just dandy. http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/7286/RANGERFARSIDE.GIF -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- Daniel Bush http://blog.web17.com.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: Insulting racial terms (was Re: [SLUG] Re: [chat] Version control)
We are Not Political Correctness R Us. thus can we all Drop this Political Correctness Nightmare and start discussing Linux related topics? On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 01:07:08PM +1100, Daniel Pittman wrote: Alan L Tyree a...@austlii.edu.au writes: On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 12:29:32 +1100 Sonia Hamilton so...@snowfrog.net wrote: PS You might want to lookup what tonto means [1] before you go around calling people it. It was a term of disrespect for Amerindians on the US/Mexican border in the 1800's. At least be grammatically correct, and call me tonta :-p [1] http://www.spanishdict.com/translate/tonto As a native Spanish speaker, I'll take offense if someone calls me tonto. BTW, I've spoken to Sonia in Spanish and she speaks that language very well. For anyone born in the US during the last century, as I was, Tonto is the Lone Ranger's faithful Indian companion. When we were kids, it was worth fighting to be Tonto rather than the paleface. It's probably no longer politically correct, but for different reasons than those mentioned. When I was a little kid, I couldn't understand why the loyal American Indian was call stupid (tonto/tonta == stupid). The idea burnt in my young brain was that all the American indians (from Tierra del Fuego in Argentina to Alaska) were all stupid people for the USAians. BTW (again), I also don't understand why the USA is call America. I'm from Colombia and I'm an American. The continent is called America and don't tell me it's call Americas. Uh, no. That would be inappropriate for *exactly* the reason mentioned, which is to say that it is an insulting racial epithet. The fact that it was used in that sense on television doesn't change those facts. So, just because the term was not seen as insulting doesn't make it any less insulting ??? just like paleface is. Aye. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Insulting racial terms (was Re: [SLUG] Re: [chat] Version control)
Alan L Tyree a...@austlii.edu.au writes: On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 12:29:32 +1100 Sonia Hamilton so...@snowfrog.net wrote: [...] PS You might want to lookup what tonto means [1] before you go around calling people it. It was a term of disrespect for Amerindians on the US/Mexican border in the 1800's. At least be grammatically correct, and call me tonta :-p [1] http://www.spanishdict.com/translate/tonto For anyone born in the US during the last century, as I was, Tonto is the Lone Ranger's faithful Indian companion. When we were kids, it was worth fighting to be Tonto rather than the paleface. It's probably no longer politically correct, but for different reasons than those mentioned. Uh, no. That would be inappropriate for *exactly* the reason mentioned, which is to say that it is an insulting racial epithet. The fact that it was used in that sense on television doesn't change those facts. So, just because the term was not seen as insulting doesn't make it any less insulting — just like paleface is. Regards, Daniel -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: Insulting racial terms (was Re: [SLUG] Re: [chat] Version control)
[...] PS You might want to lookup what tonto means [1] before you go around calling people it. It was a term of disrespect for Amerindians on the US/Mexican border in the 1800's. At least be grammatically correct, and call me tonta :-p [1] http://www.spanishdict.com/translate/tonto For anyone born in the US during the last century, as I was, Tonto is the Lone Ranger's faithful Indian companion. When we were kids, it was worth fighting to be Tonto rather than the paleface. It's probably no longer politically correct, but for different reasons than those mentioned. Uh, no. That would be inappropriate for *exactly* the reason mentioned, which is to say that it is an insulting racial epithet. The fact that it was used in that sense on television doesn't change those facts. So, just because the term was not seen as insulting doesn't make it any less insulting — just like paleface is. lol Do we really need to concern ourselves with Political Correctness BS? Why can't we leave that crud for such trivial places like the workplace? This is a Linux group not Political correctness R us. Can we please get back to discussing Linux? Now get back on topic -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: Insulting racial terms (was Re: [SLUG] Re: [chat] Version control)
On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 01:07:08PM +1100, Daniel Pittman wrote: Alan L Tyree a...@austlii.edu.au writes: On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 12:29:32 +1100 Sonia Hamilton so...@snowfrog.net wrote: PS You might want to lookup what tonto means [1] before you go around calling people it. It was a term of disrespect for Amerindians on the US/Mexican border in the 1800's. At least be grammatically correct, and call me tonta :-p [1] http://www.spanishdict.com/translate/tonto As a native Spanish speaker, I'll take offense if someone calls me tonto. BTW, I've spoken to Sonia in Spanish and she speaks that language very well. For anyone born in the US during the last century, as I was, Tonto is the Lone Ranger's faithful Indian companion. When we were kids, it was worth fighting to be Tonto rather than the paleface. It's probably no longer politically correct, but for different reasons than those mentioned. When I was a little kid, I couldn't understand why the loyal American Indian was call stupid (tonto/tonta == stupid). The idea burnt in my young brain was that all the American indians (from Tierra del Fuego in Argentina to Alaska) were all stupid people for the USAians. BTW (again), I also don't understand why the USA is call America. I'm from Colombia and I'm an American. The continent is called America and don't tell me it's call Americas. Uh, no. That would be inappropriate for *exactly* the reason mentioned, which is to say that it is an insulting racial epithet. The fact that it was used in that sense on television doesn't change those facts. So, just because the term was not seen as insulting doesn't make it any less insulting ??? just like paleface is. Aye. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: Insulting racial terms (was Re: [SLUG] Re: [chat] Version control)
Because no one else will say it _I_ will. Please refrain from having these sorts of email discussions on the SLUG mailing lists. Lots of people just end up being offended and it does nothing to make SLUG appealing for those subscribed to the list. Thanks James 2009/3/22 Aníbal Monsalve Salazar ani...@v7w.com: On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 01:07:08PM +1100, Daniel Pittman wrote: Alan L Tyree a...@austlii.edu.au writes: On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 12:29:32 +1100 Sonia Hamilton so...@snowfrog.net wrote: PS You might want to lookup what tonto means [1] before you go around calling people it. It was a term of disrespect for Amerindians on the US/Mexican border in the 1800's. At least be grammatically correct, and call me tonta :-p [1] http://www.spanishdict.com/translate/tonto As a native Spanish speaker, I'll take offense if someone calls me tonto. BTW, I've spoken to Sonia in Spanish and she speaks that language very well. For anyone born in the US during the last century, as I was, Tonto is the Lone Ranger's faithful Indian companion. When we were kids, it was worth fighting to be Tonto rather than the paleface. It's probably no longer politically correct, but for different reasons than those mentioned. When I was a little kid, I couldn't understand why the loyal American Indian was call stupid (tonto/tonta == stupid). The idea burnt in my young brain was that all the American indians (from Tierra del Fuego in Argentina to Alaska) were all stupid people for the USAians. BTW (again), I also don't understand why the USA is call America. I'm from Colombia and I'm an American. The continent is called America and don't tell me it's call Americas. Uh, no. That would be inappropriate for *exactly* the reason mentioned, which is to say that it is an insulting racial epithet. The fact that it was used in that sense on television doesn't change those facts. So, just because the term was not seen as insulting doesn't make it any less insulting ??? just like paleface is. Aye. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
