Re: [SLUG] SquirelMail without IMAP ? POP ? /Maildir ?

2003-09-03 Thread voyteke
** Reply to note from Gonzalo Servat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu, 28 Aug 2003 22:31:09 
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 Why is installing an IMAP server such a problem?

Gonzalo, thanks for all the anwsers

well, I actually did install CourierIMAP (though haven't configured as yet)
basically, I have never used or administered one before, users haven't
asked for one, and, after reading some of the docs, it seemed to me I might
be creating more work for myself.

I guess now that I compilied and installed it, I'll at least have a
good look at it, but at this point I don't see much advantage to me, to
have to run it, and, suspect it might require more than POP (like the
quotas etc.

plus I guess i have to provide the storage space, though I suspect that
wouldn't be an issue

from an admin perpective, is IMAP a better choice over POP ?



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Re: [SLUG] SquirelMail without IMAP ? POP ? /Maildir ?

2003-09-03 Thread Martin
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 from an admin perpective, is IMAP a better choice over POP ?

depends on what you are trying to do. i find that i only use IMAP in two
situations:

- office environments where email is vital. it is much easier to backup one
  server then to backup every workstation.
  
- multiple access methods. people who want to check their email with both
  client software (evolution, thunderbird etc.etc.) or via a web browser
  (using webmail such as squirrelmail).

in all other instances i prefer POP as it's simpler and easier to work
offline.

marty

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Re: [SLUG] SquirelMail without IMAP ? POP ? /Maildir ?

2003-09-03 Thread Voytek Eymont
** Reply to note from [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin) Thu, 4 Sep 2003 01:58:00 +1000


 in all other instances i prefer POP as it's simpler and easier to work 
 offline. 

 marty, thanks

that's what I was leaning towards. and, I suspect some of my users do not
have IMAP capable client app.


oh, yes, and as to my earlier Qs 'does Squirel _need_ IMAP':

the reasons for my Qs was: I had a colleague who INSISTED he runs Squirel
with POP-ONLY, 

just now, he admited had has IMAP that he didn't know of:


Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 08:31:37 +1100
VE
  
I double checked, we are in fact running IMAP - it runs under the INETD
process that's why I couldn't see it.
  
Happy for you to check things out.
  
Re: SquirelMail or sqwebmail ??  
08:58 AM   


** Reply to note from Fri, 29 Aug 2003 08:19:58 +1100

 We're using squirrelmail - I've never heard of sqwebmail.
 No IMAP here, only POP3




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Re: [SLUG] SquirelMail without IMAP ? POP ? /Maildir ?

2003-08-28 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Voytek

 can SquirelMail run with only Postfix and /Maildir, no IMAP, no POP, like,
 accessing mail from /Maildir  ...?

No. If you need to do that, you might want to try sqwebmail.

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Re: [SLUG] SquirelMail without IMAP ? POP ? /Maildir ?

2003-08-28 Thread John Clarke
On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 06:35:26PM +, Voytek wrote:

 can SquirelMail run with only Postfix and /Maildir, no IMAP, no POP, like,
 accessing mail from /Maildir  ...?

No, it needs an imap server.

 sorry for asking lot of perhaps trivial Qs, BUT, I have been trying to look up docs 
 on SquirellMail, but, can't get on, it
 seems the squirrelmail.org server is devoid of some files at this point:
 
 http://www.squirrelmail.org/
 Fatal error: Failed opening required 
 '/home/groups/s/sq/squirrelmail/includes/constants.inc' (include_path='') in 
 /home/groups/s/sq/squirrelmail/includes/std_header.inc on line 5

Use Google's cache:


http://google.com/search?query=cache%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.squirrelmail.org%2Fwiki%2FSquirrelMailRequirements

The cached copy is a little broken too but it's mostly readable.


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Re: [SLUG] SquirelMail without IMAP ? POP ? /Maildir ?

2003-08-28 Thread Gonzalo Servat
On 28/08/2003 6:35 PM +, Voytek wrote:

I'm hoping someone here can help:
I must introduce you to www.google.com{.au}. It is an extremely good search 
engine and has the answers to a lot of your questions. :)

can SquirelMail run with only Postfix and /Maildir, no IMAP, no POP, like,
accessing mail from /Maildir  ...?
Well, if you wanted to access Maildir directories directly it would require 
the web server to have access to everyone's mailboxes. Not very secure is 
it. I'm not sure if there are other reasons, but this alone is a good 
reason not to implement such functionality.

I do not have IMAP, and, aim to install POP, but, at this time don't have
POP either
Why is installing an IMAP server such a problem?

must I have IMAP or POP before I can use it ?
Yes, you need IMAP. There is a POP3 plugin for Squirrelmail but I think 
it's only for fetching mail from other POP3 servers once you are logged in.

the /etc/squirelmail config seems to only have setting for IMAP,
but not for POP, can it work with POP ?
See above.

sorry for asking lot of perhaps trivial Qs, BUT, I have been trying to
look up docs on SquirellMail, but, can't get on, it seems the
squirrelmail.org server is devoid of some files at this point:
Squirrelmail.org is down, yes, but Google isn't. :)

Regards,
Gonzalo.
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Re: [SLUG] SquirelMail without IMAP ? POP ? /Maildir ?

2003-08-28 Thread Stuart Guthrie
I think it needs IMAP. 

Stu

On Fri, 2003-08-29 at 04:35, Voytek wrote:
 I'm hoping someone here can help:
 
 can SquirelMail run with only Postfix and /Maildir, no IMAP, no POP, like,
 accessing mail from /Maildir  ...?
 
 I keep getting
 --
 SquirrelMail version 1.4.1-0.2.7.x
 By the SquirrelMail Development Team
 ERROR
 Error connecting to IMAP server: localhost.
 111 : Connection refused
 Go to the login page
 --
 
 I do not have IMAP, and, aim to install POP, but, at this time don't have
 POP either
 
 must I have IMAP or POP before I can use it ?
 
 the /etc/squirelmail config seems to only have setting for IMAP,
 but not for POP, can it work with POP ?
 
 sorry for asking lot of perhaps trivial Qs, BUT, I have been trying to look up docs 
 on SquirellMail, but, can't get on, it
 seems the squirrelmail.org server is devoid of some files at this point:
 
 http://www.squirrelmail.org/
 Fatal error: Failed opening required 
 '/home/groups/s/sq/squirrelmail/includes/constants.inc' (include_path='') in 
 /home/groups/s/sq/squirrelmail/includes/std_header.inc on line 5
 
 and, the archive I have doesn't seem to have much in the way of config
 
 
 Voytek Eymont

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