Re: [SLUG] SquirelMail without IMAP ? POP ? /Maildir ?
** Reply to note from Gonzalo Servat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu, 28 Aug 2003 22:31:09 +1000 Why is installing an IMAP server such a problem? Gonzalo, thanks for all the anwsers well, I actually did install CourierIMAP (though haven't configured as yet) basically, I have never used or administered one before, users haven't asked for one, and, after reading some of the docs, it seemed to me I might be creating more work for myself. I guess now that I compilied and installed it, I'll at least have a good look at it, but at this point I don't see much advantage to me, to have to run it, and, suspect it might require more than POP (like the quotas etc. plus I guess i have to provide the storage space, though I suspect that wouldn't be an issue from an admin perpective, is IMAP a better choice over POP ? Voytek Eymont -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] SquirelMail without IMAP ? POP ? /Maildir ?
$author = [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; from an admin perpective, is IMAP a better choice over POP ? depends on what you are trying to do. i find that i only use IMAP in two situations: - office environments where email is vital. it is much easier to backup one server then to backup every workstation. - multiple access methods. people who want to check their email with both client software (evolution, thunderbird etc.etc.) or via a web browser (using webmail such as squirrelmail). in all other instances i prefer POP as it's simpler and easier to work offline. marty -- I always dreamed I'd love you I never dreamed I'd lose you In my dreams I'm always strong The Dark is Rising - Mercury Rev -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] SquirelMail without IMAP ? POP ? /Maildir ?
** Reply to note from [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin) Thu, 4 Sep 2003 01:58:00 +1000 in all other instances i prefer POP as it's simpler and easier to work offline. marty, thanks that's what I was leaning towards. and, I suspect some of my users do not have IMAP capable client app. oh, yes, and as to my earlier Qs 'does Squirel _need_ IMAP': the reasons for my Qs was: I had a colleague who INSISTED he runs Squirel with POP-ONLY, just now, he admited had has IMAP that he didn't know of: Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 08:31:37 +1100 VE I double checked, we are in fact running IMAP - it runs under the INETD process that's why I couldn't see it. Happy for you to check things out. Re: SquirelMail or sqwebmail ?? 08:58 AM ** Reply to note from Fri, 29 Aug 2003 08:19:58 +1100 We're using squirrelmail - I've never heard of sqwebmail. No IMAP here, only POP3 Voytek Eymont -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] SquirelMail without IMAP ? POP ? /Maildir ?
quote who=Voytek can SquirelMail run with only Postfix and /Maildir, no IMAP, no POP, like, accessing mail from /Maildir ...? No. If you need to do that, you might want to try sqwebmail. - Jeff -- linux.conf.au 2004: Adelaide, Australia http://lca2004.linux.org.au/ Gah. Out of coffee. Shall think whilst auto-caffeinating. - Telsa Gwynne -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] SquirelMail without IMAP ? POP ? /Maildir ?
On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 06:35:26PM +, Voytek wrote: can SquirelMail run with only Postfix and /Maildir, no IMAP, no POP, like, accessing mail from /Maildir ...? No, it needs an imap server. sorry for asking lot of perhaps trivial Qs, BUT, I have been trying to look up docs on SquirellMail, but, can't get on, it seems the squirrelmail.org server is devoid of some files at this point: http://www.squirrelmail.org/ Fatal error: Failed opening required '/home/groups/s/sq/squirrelmail/includes/constants.inc' (include_path='') in /home/groups/s/sq/squirrelmail/includes/std_header.inc on line 5 Use Google's cache: http://google.com/search?query=cache%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.squirrelmail.org%2Fwiki%2FSquirrelMailRequirements The cached copy is a little broken too but it's mostly readable. Cheers, John -- whois [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG key id: 0xD59C360F http://kirriwa.net/john/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] SquirelMail without IMAP ? POP ? /Maildir ?
On 28/08/2003 6:35 PM +, Voytek wrote: I'm hoping someone here can help: I must introduce you to www.google.com{.au}. It is an extremely good search engine and has the answers to a lot of your questions. :) can SquirelMail run with only Postfix and /Maildir, no IMAP, no POP, like, accessing mail from /Maildir ...? Well, if you wanted to access Maildir directories directly it would require the web server to have access to everyone's mailboxes. Not very secure is it. I'm not sure if there are other reasons, but this alone is a good reason not to implement such functionality. I do not have IMAP, and, aim to install POP, but, at this time don't have POP either Why is installing an IMAP server such a problem? must I have IMAP or POP before I can use it ? Yes, you need IMAP. There is a POP3 plugin for Squirrelmail but I think it's only for fetching mail from other POP3 servers once you are logged in. the /etc/squirelmail config seems to only have setting for IMAP, but not for POP, can it work with POP ? See above. sorry for asking lot of perhaps trivial Qs, BUT, I have been trying to look up docs on SquirellMail, but, can't get on, it seems the squirrelmail.org server is devoid of some files at this point: Squirrelmail.org is down, yes, but Google isn't. :) Regards, Gonzalo. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] SquirelMail without IMAP ? POP ? /Maildir ?
I think it needs IMAP. Stu On Fri, 2003-08-29 at 04:35, Voytek wrote: I'm hoping someone here can help: can SquirelMail run with only Postfix and /Maildir, no IMAP, no POP, like, accessing mail from /Maildir ...? I keep getting -- SquirrelMail version 1.4.1-0.2.7.x By the SquirrelMail Development Team ERROR Error connecting to IMAP server: localhost. 111 : Connection refused Go to the login page -- I do not have IMAP, and, aim to install POP, but, at this time don't have POP either must I have IMAP or POP before I can use it ? the /etc/squirelmail config seems to only have setting for IMAP, but not for POP, can it work with POP ? sorry for asking lot of perhaps trivial Qs, BUT, I have been trying to look up docs on SquirellMail, but, can't get on, it seems the squirrelmail.org server is devoid of some files at this point: http://www.squirrelmail.org/ Fatal error: Failed opening required '/home/groups/s/sq/squirrelmail/includes/constants.inc' (include_path='') in /home/groups/s/sq/squirrelmail/includes/std_header.inc on line 5 and, the archive I have doesn't seem to have much in the way of config Voytek Eymont -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug