Re: [slurm-users] Add partition to existing user association
Hi all, I agree with both Marcus and Loris. I am referring to modifying the association basically since when we first created our associations we had only "user" and "account" and now we also need to add the "partition". My understanding from the documentation was that I would be able to modify the association and add the partition but it seems that this is not the case. So I guess we will proceed with my original solution to delete all associations consisting of "user" and "account" and create new ones consisting of "user", "account" and "partition". Regards, Thekla On 24/1/22 3:54 μ.μ., Marcus Wagner wrote: Hi all, an association is a triple (quadruple if you have several clusters) consisting of "user", "account" and "partition". So, you need to add a association. I'm not sure, how the accounting works, if no partition is set. We are always setting that triple, automatically during first submission to this triple. Not all users / account are allowed to use all partitions. This is checked externally, and if the user is allowed to submit to a partition with a specific account, we add that triple with sacctmgr. Best Marcus Am 24.01.2022 um 14:38 schrieb Loris Bennett: Dear Thekla, Disclaimer: Firstly, I find account management in Slurm confusing and the documentation strangely unenlightening. Secondly, I don't make many changes to things once users have been set up, so I have very little experience of actually tweaking the accounting. Despite my understanding of the documentation that you *can* modify the partition of a user, I don't think this is actually the case. If I look at the database, the user table has no column 'partition' whereas the association table does. So you might be able to modify the association, but you might also just have to delete the association and recreate it with the desired partitions. Or you might have to do something entirely different ... Maybe people who do understand Slurm's account management can chip in. Cheers, Loris Thekla Loizou writes: Dear Dori, Thanks for your reply. Unfortunately this does not work either... Best, Thekla On 21/1/22 7:43 μ.μ., Dori Sajdak wrote: Hi Thekla, When it comes to partitions, I believe you need to specify the cluster so in your example: sacctmgr modify user thekla account=ops set partition=gpu where cluster=YourClusterName QOS is not tied to a specific cluster but partitions are. That should work for you. Dori *** Dori Sajdak (she/her/hers) Senior Systems Administrator Center for Computational Research University at Buffalo, State University of New York 701 Ellicott St Buffalo, New York 14203 Phone: (716) 881-8934 Fax: (716) 849-6656 Web: http://buffalo.edu/ccr Help Desk: https://ubccr.freshdesk.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/ubccr *** -Original Message- From: slurm-users On Behalf Of Thekla Loizou Sent: Friday, January 21, 2022 9:12 AM To: slurm-users@lists.schedmd.com Subject: [slurm-users] Add partition to existing user association Dear all, I was wondering if there is a way to add a partition to an existing user association. For example if I have an association of user thekla to an account ops I can set a qos for the existing association: sacctmgr modify user thekla account=ops set qos=nosubmit Modified user associations... C = cyclamen A = ops U = thekla However, I cannot set a partition: sacctmgr modify user thekla account=ops set partition=gpu Unknown option: partition=gpu Use keyword 'where' to modify condition This is not possible? The only solution I found to that is to delete the association and create it again with the partition: sacctmgr del user thekla account=ops sacctmgr add user thekla account=ops partition=gpu Thank you, Thekla
Re: [slurm-users] Add partition to existing user association
Hi all, an association is a triple (quadruple if you have several clusters) consisting of "user", "account" and "partition". So, you need to add a association. I'm not sure, how the accounting works, if no partition is set. We are always setting that triple, automatically during first submission to this triple. Not all users / account are allowed to use all partitions. This is checked externally, and if the user is allowed to submit to a partition with a specific account, we add that triple with sacctmgr. Best Marcus Am 24.01.2022 um 14:38 schrieb Loris Bennett: Dear Thekla, Disclaimer: Firstly, I find account management in Slurm confusing and the documentation strangely unenlightening. Secondly, I don't make many changes to things once users have been set up, so I have very little experience of actually tweaking the accounting. Despite my understanding of the documentation that you *can* modify the partition of a user, I don't think this is actually the case. If I look at the database, the user table has no column 'partition' whereas the association table does. So you might be able to modify the association, but you might also just have to delete the association and recreate it with the desired partitions. Or you might have to do something entirely different ... Maybe people who do understand Slurm's account management can chip in. Cheers, Loris Thekla Loizou writes: Dear Dori, Thanks for your reply. Unfortunately this does not work either... Best, Thekla On 21/1/22 7:43 μ.μ., Dori Sajdak wrote: Hi Thekla, When it comes to partitions, I believe you need to specify the cluster so in your example: sacctmgr modify user thekla account=ops set partition=gpu where cluster=YourClusterName QOS is not tied to a specific cluster but partitions are. That should work for you. Dori *** Dori Sajdak (she/her/hers) Senior Systems Administrator Center for Computational Research University at Buffalo, State University of New York 701 Ellicott St Buffalo, New York 14203 Phone: (716) 881-8934 Fax: (716) 849-6656 Web: http://buffalo.edu/ccr Help Desk: https://ubccr.freshdesk.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/ubccr *** -Original Message- From: slurm-users On Behalf Of Thekla Loizou Sent: Friday, January 21, 2022 9:12 AM To: slurm-users@lists.schedmd.com Subject: [slurm-users] Add partition to existing user association Dear all, I was wondering if there is a way to add a partition to an existing user association. For example if I have an association of user thekla to an account ops I can set a qos for the existing association: sacctmgr modify user thekla account=ops set qos=nosubmit Modified user associations... C = cyclamen A = ops U = thekla However, I cannot set a partition: sacctmgr modify user thekla account=ops set partition=gpu Unknown option: partition=gpu Use keyword 'where' to modify condition This is not possible? The only solution I found to that is to delete the association and create it again with the partition: sacctmgr del user thekla account=ops sacctmgr add user thekla account=ops partition=gpu Thank you, Thekla -- Dipl.-Inf. Marcus Wagner IT Center Gruppe: Server, Storage, HPC Abteilung: Systeme und Betrieb RWTH Aachen University Seffenter Weg 23 52074 Aachen Tel: +49 241 80-24383 Fax: +49 241 80-624383 wag...@itc.rwth-aachen.de www.itc.rwth-aachen.de Social Media Kanäle des IT Centers: https://blog.rwth-aachen.de/itc/ https://www.facebook.com/itcenterrwth https://www.linkedin.com/company/itcenterrwth https://twitter.com/ITCenterRWTH https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKKDJJukeRwO0LP-ac8x8rQ smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [slurm-users] Add partition to existing user association
Dear Thekla, Disclaimer: Firstly, I find account management in Slurm confusing and the documentation strangely unenlightening. Secondly, I don't make many changes to things once users have been set up, so I have very little experience of actually tweaking the accounting. Despite my understanding of the documentation that you *can* modify the partition of a user, I don't think this is actually the case. If I look at the database, the user table has no column 'partition' whereas the association table does. So you might be able to modify the association, but you might also just have to delete the association and recreate it with the desired partitions. Or you might have to do something entirely different ... Maybe people who do understand Slurm's account management can chip in. Cheers, Loris Thekla Loizou writes: > Dear Dori, > > Thanks for your reply. Unfortunately this does not work either... > > Best, > > Thekla > > On 21/1/22 7:43 μ.μ., Dori Sajdak wrote: >> Hi Thekla, >> >> When it comes to partitions, I believe you need to specify the cluster so in >> your example: >> >> sacctmgr modify user thekla account=ops set partition=gpu where >> cluster=YourClusterName >> >> QOS is not tied to a specific cluster but partitions are. That should work >> for you. >> >> Dori >> >> *** >> Dori Sajdak (she/her/hers) >> Senior Systems Administrator >> Center for Computational Research >> University at Buffalo, State University of New York >> 701 Ellicott St >> Buffalo, New York 14203 >> Phone: (716) 881-8934 >> Fax: (716) 849-6656 >> Web: http://buffalo.edu/ccr >> Help Desk: https://ubccr.freshdesk.com >> Twitter: https://twitter.com/ubccr >> *** >> >> >> >> -----Original Message- >> From: slurm-users On Behalf Of >> Thekla Loizou >> Sent: Friday, January 21, 2022 9:12 AM >> To: slurm-users@lists.schedmd.com >> Subject: [slurm-users] Add partition to existing user association >> >> Dear all, >> >> I was wondering if there is a way to add a partition to an existing user >> association. >> >> For example if I have an association of user thekla to an account ops I can >> set a qos for the existing association: >> >> sacctmgr modify user thekla account=ops set qos=nosubmit >> Modified user associations... >> C = cyclamen A = ops U = thekla >> >> However, I cannot set a partition: >> >> sacctmgr modify user thekla account=ops set partition=gpu >> Unknown option: partition=gpu >> Use keyword 'where' to modify condition >> >> This is not possible? >> >> The only solution I found to that is to delete the association and create it >> again with the partition: >> >> sacctmgr del user thekla account=ops >> >> sacctmgr add user thekla account=ops partition=gpu >> >> Thank you, >> >> Thekla >> >> > -- Dr. Loris Bennett (Herr/Mr) ZEDAT, Freie Universität Berlin Email loris.benn...@fu-berlin.de
Re: [slurm-users] Add partition to existing user association
Dear Dori, Thanks for your reply. Unfortunately this does not work either... Best, Thekla On 21/1/22 7:43 μ.μ., Dori Sajdak wrote: Hi Thekla, When it comes to partitions, I believe you need to specify the cluster so in your example: sacctmgr modify user thekla account=ops set partition=gpu where cluster=YourClusterName QOS is not tied to a specific cluster but partitions are. That should work for you. Dori *** Dori Sajdak (she/her/hers) Senior Systems Administrator Center for Computational Research University at Buffalo, State University of New York 701 Ellicott St Buffalo, New York 14203 Phone: (716) 881-8934 Fax: (716) 849-6656 Web: http://buffalo.edu/ccr Help Desk: https://ubccr.freshdesk.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/ubccr *** -Original Message- From: slurm-users On Behalf Of Thekla Loizou Sent: Friday, January 21, 2022 9:12 AM To: slurm-users@lists.schedmd.com Subject: [slurm-users] Add partition to existing user association Dear all, I was wondering if there is a way to add a partition to an existing user association. For example if I have an association of user thekla to an account ops I can set a qos for the existing association: sacctmgr modify user thekla account=ops set qos=nosubmit Modified user associations... C = cyclamen A = ops U = thekla However, I cannot set a partition: sacctmgr modify user thekla account=ops set partition=gpu Unknown option: partition=gpu Use keyword 'where' to modify condition This is not possible? The only solution I found to that is to delete the association and create it again with the partition: sacctmgr del user thekla account=ops sacctmgr add user thekla account=ops partition=gpu Thank you, Thekla
Re: [slurm-users] Add partition to existing user association
Hi Thekla, When it comes to partitions, I believe you need to specify the cluster so in your example: sacctmgr modify user thekla account=ops set partition=gpu where cluster=YourClusterName QOS is not tied to a specific cluster but partitions are. That should work for you. Dori *** Dori Sajdak (she/her/hers) Senior Systems Administrator Center for Computational Research University at Buffalo, State University of New York 701 Ellicott St Buffalo, New York 14203 Phone: (716) 881-8934 Fax: (716) 849-6656 Web: http://buffalo.edu/ccr Help Desk: https://ubccr.freshdesk.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/ubccr *** -Original Message- From: slurm-users On Behalf Of Thekla Loizou Sent: Friday, January 21, 2022 9:12 AM To: slurm-users@lists.schedmd.com Subject: [slurm-users] Add partition to existing user association Dear all, I was wondering if there is a way to add a partition to an existing user association. For example if I have an association of user thekla to an account ops I can set a qos for the existing association: sacctmgr modify user thekla account=ops set qos=nosubmit Modified user associations... C = cyclamen A = ops U = thekla However, I cannot set a partition: sacctmgr modify user thekla account=ops set partition=gpu Unknown option: partition=gpu Use keyword 'where' to modify condition This is not possible? The only solution I found to that is to delete the association and create it again with the partition: sacctmgr del user thekla account=ops sacctmgr add user thekla account=ops partition=gpu Thank you, Thekla
[slurm-users] Add partition to existing user association
Dear all, I was wondering if there is a way to add a partition to an existing user association. For example if I have an association of user thekla to an account ops I can set a qos for the existing association: sacctmgr modify user thekla account=ops set qos=nosubmit Modified user associations... C = cyclamen A = ops U = thekla However, I cannot set a partition: sacctmgr modify user thekla account=ops set partition=gpu Unknown option: partition=gpu Use keyword 'where' to modify condition This is not possible? The only solution I found to that is to delete the association and create it again with the partition: sacctmgr del user thekla account=ops sacctmgr add user thekla account=ops partition=gpu Thank you, Thekla
