Re[2]: [sniffer] Downloads are slow.

2006-02-07 Thread David Sullivan
Somebody please tell me I'm doing something wrong here. I use this
expression in Baregrep "Final\t828931" and it yields 22,055 matching
lines across 3 of my 4 license's log files.

Since this is set to my hold weight, I'm assuming that means I've had
22,055 holds on this rule?

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[sniffer] Bad Rule - 828931

2006-02-07 Thread David Sullivan
Sorry, wrong thread on the last post.

Add'l question. Pete, what is the content of the rule?

Tuesday, February 7, 2006, 6:05:53 PM, you wrote:

DS> Somebody please tell me I'm doing something wrong here. I use this
DS> expression in Baregrep "Final\t828931" and it yields 22,055 matching
DS> lines across 3 of my 4 license's log files.

DS> Since this is set to my hold weight, I'm assuming that means I've had
DS> 22,055 holds on this rule?




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Re[2]: [sniffer] Bad Rule - 828931

2006-02-07 Thread David Sullivan
Hello Matt,

Tuesday, February 7, 2006, 6:27:25 PM, you wrote:

M> rule number, and I don't have the tools set up or the knowledge of grep
M> yet to do a piped query of Sniffer's logs to extract the spool file names.

http://www.baremetalsoft.com/ is a great grep'er for windows. In BSD I
always used ".*" to represent any number of characters, white space or
non, but that didn't seem to work with baregrep. That's why I was
trying to confirm with anyone on the list my regex of "Final\t828931"
was an accurate regex to find every message that 'finaled' on that
rule. I'm praying that I screwed up the expression and I don't have
22,055 messages held by that rule.

M> BTW, David, it is generally better not to hold or block on one single
M> test, especially one that automates such listings (despite whatever
M> safeguards there might be).

I know, shame on me. I guess I'm used to the days that we used to be
able to hold on sniffer alone. We have some safeguards in place now
and are transitioning our rule
methodologies but hadn't gotten to this one yet as this always
seems to hit back-burner.

This is also why I'd really like to see the content of the rule to see
how it made it passed our safeguards.

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Re[4]: [sniffer] Bad Rule - 828931

2006-02-07 Thread David Sullivan
Hello William,

Tuesday, February 7, 2006, 7:39:05 PM, you wrote:

LWMU> grep -c "Final.*828931" c:\imail\declude\sniffer\logfile.log

That's what I tried. Just figured out I forgot to capitalize the "F".
It works.

Confirmed - 22,055

I'm writing a program now to parse the sniffer log file, extract the
file ID, lookup the id in sql server, determine quarantine
location, extract q/d pair from quarantine and send to user.

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Re[2]: [sniffer] Bad Rule - 828931

2006-02-07 Thread David Sullivan
Hello Pete,

Tuesday, February 7, 2006, 7:43:52 PM, you wrote:

PM> The rule would match the intended spam (and there was a lot of it, so
PM> 22,055 most likely includes mostly spam.

On spot check I'm seeing about 30-40% of the messages are valid.

PM> Unfortunately it would also match messages containing the listed
PM> capital letters in that order throughout the message. Essentially, if
PM> the text is long enough then it will probably match. A greater chance
PM> of FP match if the text of the message is in all caps. Also if there
PM> is a badly coded base64 segment and file attachment (badly coded
PM> base64 might not be decoded... raw base64 will contain many of these
PM> letters in mixed case and therefore increase the probability of
PM> matching them all).

Not sure, can anyone think of a way to cross check this? What if I put
all the released messages back through sniffer?

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Re[4]: [sniffer] Bad Rule - 828931

2006-02-07 Thread David Sullivan
Hello Pete,

Tuesday, February 7, 2006, 8:11:50 PM, you wrote:

DS>> Not sure, can anyone think of a way to cross check this? What if I put
DS>> all the released messages back through sniffer?

PM> That would be good -- new rules were added to correctly capture the
PM> bad stuff. I almost suggested something more complex.

That said...anyone know specifics of reprocessing messages through
Declude on Imail? I know that in 1.x Declude would drop some kind of
marker so that q/d's copied into spool would not be reprocessed but I
don't remember what it was and don't know if it works same in 3.x.

Posted question on Declude JM list but no answer so far.

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Re[6]: [sniffer] Bad Rule - 828931

2006-02-07 Thread David Sullivan
Hello John,

Tuesday, February 7, 2006, 8:30:57 PM, you wrote:

JC> Drop the q/d files back into the \spool\proc directory.  Declude will
JC> reprocess them.  If you put them in just the \spool, queue manager will send
JC> them out in the next queue run, bypassing Declude. 

Perfect, thanks. I just dropped the q/d from known spam into \proc
and it reprocessed and HELD again.

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Re: [sniffer] problems!!!!

2006-02-08 Thread David Sullivan
Wednesday, February 8, 2006, 11:19:52 AM, you wrote:

AS> The only idea I came up with, would be to have ALL new rules go into a 6
AS> hour "proving" category (=return code) before they are moved into their
AS> "final" category.

AS> By using Sniffer return codes, folks could decide to "trust" the established
AS> rules and decide to "cross-check" any new rules by weighing them against
AS> other sources/methods.

That's a pretty good idea. New rules in a category we could assign
lower weight to and once the rule was proved not to be problematic, it
could automatically fall into its normal category.

My results:

22,055 reprocessed
1,578 spam
20,477 release

I expect about 30% of the released were spam but they came clean
through sniffer.

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Re[2]: [sniffer] Max Evals Error

2006-02-13 Thread David Sullivan
Hello Pete,


PM> It is theoretically possible for too many evaluators to be spawned,
PM> but highly unlikely. Most of the time, fewer than 100 are generated.

PM> It's ok for this to happen, but it is noteworthy.

PM> I will look for any rules that make this more likely than usual.

I have a monitor that constantly monitors all log files and this is
the first alert on this error that I've seen.


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[sniffer] Re: Increase in spam

2006-10-18 Thread David Sullivan

We've doubled the amount of spam being HELD in the past 7 weeks and
spam leakage has about doubled as well.




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