[sniffer] Re: Excessive amounts of spam

2007-12-20 Thread Pi-Web - Frank Jensen


We are using sniffer and free tools: yasu (URLBL) and RBLCHECK (DNSBL).
URLBL does catch some that sniffer dont. URLBL I think has as low false
rate as sniffer - but it does not catch as many as sniffer. DNSBL also
(mainly spamcop), but with much more false than sniffer. We have added
a IP whitelist for DNSBL to lower the false rate.

We used to run "spam assassin", but the above config has much lower false
and uses much less cpu.



Frank:

Thanks for your input.  There are definitely things leaking though that 
wouldn't have leaked through before.  We've held off hoping for a 
production release but it may not be practical much longer.  On that 
note, for anyone else in the same position, we tested adding InvURIBL 
from Invariant Systems. It's not a sniffer replacement but definitely 
caught a lot of what sniffer currently lets through for the very valid 
reasons Pete has covered.  The only thing missing seemed to be a white 
list so that you could white list legitimate publications that might 
contain links to 'offensive' sites.  That can probably be tuned out thru 
weighting however we'd hoped not to be re-inventing the wheel for a 
short term solution.


Eric

- Original Message - From: "Pi-Web - Frank Jensen" 
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Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 1:17 PM
Subject: [sniffer] Re: Excessive amounts of spam




We have been running it for - I guess - 2 month now without any trouble.



How stable is the beta version?

 Regards David Moore
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J.P. MCP, MCSE, MCSE + INTERNET, CNE.
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 Hello David,

 Thursday, December 20, 2007, 3:25:45 PM, you wrote:








Ø  If you are not yet running the latest beta then that might help 
quite a bit since the GBUdb (IP reputation system) does a good job 
capturing new spam from old bots even before rules are coded.


Please clarify are you saying it would help if we had the beta 
installed?


 Yes. The new GBUdb engine reduces leakage quite a bit. As more 
systems adopt the new version this will improve even more. Most new 
spam campaigns are started with some large fraction of existing bots. 
Messages from bots that have already been identified will be blocked 
even before new content rules can be generated (if needed). _M


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[sniffer] Re: Excessive amounts of spam

2007-12-20 Thread John T (lists)
Yes.
John T


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> From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
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> Moore
> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 2:24 PM
> To: Message Sniffer Community
> Subject: [sniffer] Re: Excessive amounts of spam
> 
> We are using MxGuard, Sniffer, InvURIBL combo on Imail will the beta
sniffer
> still fit with this combination with out issues?
> 
> Regards David Moore
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> 
> Frank:
> 
> Thanks for your input.  There are definitely things leaking though that
> wouldn't have leaked through before.  We've held off hoping for a
production
> 
> release but it may not be practical much longer.  On that note, for anyone
> else in the same position, we tested adding InvURIBL from Invariant
Systems.
> 
> It's not a sniffer replacement but definitely caught a lot of what sniffer
> currently lets through for the very valid reasons Pete has covered.  The
> only thing missing seemed to be a white list so that you could white list
> legitimate publications that might contain links to 'offensive' sites.
That
> 
> can probably be tuned out thru weighting however we'd hoped not to be
> re-inventing the wheel for a short term solution.
> 
> Eric
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Pi-Web - Frank Jensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Message Sniffer Community" 
> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 1:17 PM
> Subject: [sniffer] Re: Excessive amounts of spam
> 
> 
> >
> > We have been running it for - I guess - 2 month now without any trouble.
> >
> >
> >> How stable is the beta version?
> >>
> >>  Regards David Moore
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> >>
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[sniffer] Re: Excessive amounts of spam

2007-12-20 Thread John T (lists)
I have not noticed any increase on FPs on the one server that is running it.

John T
> -Original Message-
> From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
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> Cox
> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 1:29 PM
> To: Message Sniffer Community
> Subject: [sniffer] Re: Excessive amounts of spam
> 
> I've heard comments that it has a higher catch rate... how about FP rate?
> Higher, the same, or lower?
> 
> Darin.
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Pi-Web - Frank Jensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Message Sniffer Community" 
> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 4:17 PM
> Subject: [sniffer] Re: Excessive amounts of spam
> 
> 
> 
> We have been running it for - I guess - 2 month now without any trouble.
> 
> 
> > How stable is the beta version?
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards David Moore
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > J.P. MCP, MCSE, MCSE + INTERNET, CNE.
> > www.adsldirect.com.au <http://www.adsldirect.com.au/> for ADSL and
> > Internet www.romtech.com.au <http://www.romtech.com.au/> for PC sales
> >
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> > Fax Phone: (+612) 9453 1880
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> > Behalf Of *Pete McNeil
> > *Sent:* Friday, 21 December 2007 8:10 AM
> > *To:* Message Sniffer Community
> > *Subject:* [sniffer] Re: Excessive amounts of spam
> >
> >
> >
> > Hello David,
> >
> >
> >
> > Thursday, December 20, 2007, 3:25:45 PM, you wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > Ø  If you are not yet running the latest beta then that might help quite
> > a bit since the GBUdb (IP reputation system) does a good job capturing
> > new spam from old bots even before rules are coded.
> >
> > Please clarify are you saying it would help if we had the beta
installed?
> >
> >
> >
> > Yes.
> >
> >
> >
> > The new GBUdb engine reduces leakage quite a bit. As more systems adopt
> > the new version this will improve even more. Most new spam campaigns are
> > started with some large fraction of existing bots. Messages from bots
> > that have already been identified will be blocked even before new
> > content rules can be generated (if needed).
> >
> >
> >
> > _M
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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[sniffer] Re: Excessive amounts of spam

2007-12-20 Thread David Moore
We are using MxGuard, Sniffer, InvURIBL combo on Imail will the beta sniffer
still fit with this combination with out issues?

Regards David Moore
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Office Phone: (+612) 9453 1990
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From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of E. H. (Eric) Fletcher
Sent: Friday, 21 December 2007 8:35 AM
To: Message Sniffer Community
Subject: [sniffer] Re: Excessive amounts of spam

Frank:

Thanks for your input.  There are definitely things leaking though that 
wouldn't have leaked through before.  We've held off hoping for a production

release but it may not be practical much longer.  On that note, for anyone 
else in the same position, we tested adding InvURIBL from Invariant Systems.

It's not a sniffer replacement but definitely caught a lot of what sniffer 
currently lets through for the very valid reasons Pete has covered.  The 
only thing missing seemed to be a white list so that you could white list 
legitimate publications that might contain links to 'offensive' sites.  That

can probably be tuned out thru weighting however we'd hoped not to be 
re-inventing the wheel for a short term solution.

Eric

- Original Message - 
From: "Pi-Web - Frank Jensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Message Sniffer Community" 
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 1:17 PM
Subject: [sniffer] Re: Excessive amounts of spam


>
> We have been running it for - I guess - 2 month now without any trouble.
>
>
>> How stable is the beta version?
>>
>>  Regards David Moore
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>> J.P. MCP, MCSE, MCSE + INTERNET, CNE.
>> www.adsldirect.com.au <http://www.adsldirect.com.au/> for ADSL and 
>> Internet www.romtech.com.au <http://www.romtech.com.au/> for PC sales
>>
>> Office Phone: (+612) 9453 1990
>> Fax Phone: (+612) 9453 1880
>> Mobile Phone: +614 18 282 648
>> Skype Phone: ADSLDIRECT
>>
>> POSTAL ADDRESS:
>> PO BOX 190
>> BELROSE NSW 2085
>> AUSTRALIA.
>>
>> -
>>
>> This email message is only intended for the addressee(s) and contains 
>> information that may be confidential, legally privileged and/or 
>> copyright. If you are not the intended recipient please notify the sender

>> by reply email and immediately delete this email. Use, disclosure or 
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>> are free of viruses. Virus scanning is recommended and is the 
>> responsibility of the recipient.
>>
>> -------------
>>
>>  *From:* Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On 
>> Behalf Of *Pete McNeil
>> *Sent:* Friday, 21 December 2007 8:10 AM
>> *To:* Message Sniffer Community
>> *Subject:* [sniffer] Re: Excessive amounts of spam
>>
>>  Hello David,
>>
>>  Thursday, December 20, 2007, 3:25:45 PM, you wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Ø  If you are not yet running the latest beta then that might help quite 
>> a bit since the GBUdb (IP reputation system) does a good job capturing 
>> new spam from old bots even before rules are coded.
>>
>> Please clarify are you saying it would help if we had the beta installed?
>>
>>  Yes. The new GBUdb engine reduces leakage quite a bit. As more systems 
>> adopt the new version this will improve even more. Most new spam 
>> campaigns are started with some large fraction of existing bots. Messages

>> from

[sniffer] Re: Excessive amounts of spam

2007-12-20 Thread E. H. (Eric) Fletcher

Frank:

Thanks for your input.  There are definitely things leaking though that 
wouldn't have leaked through before.  We've held off hoping for a production 
release but it may not be practical much longer.  On that note, for anyone 
else in the same position, we tested adding InvURIBL from Invariant Systems. 
It's not a sniffer replacement but definitely caught a lot of what sniffer 
currently lets through for the very valid reasons Pete has covered.  The 
only thing missing seemed to be a white list so that you could white list 
legitimate publications that might contain links to 'offensive' sites.  That 
can probably be tuned out thru weighting however we'd hoped not to be 
re-inventing the wheel for a short term solution.


Eric

- Original Message - 
From: "Pi-Web - Frank Jensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Message Sniffer Community" 
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 1:17 PM
Subject: [sniffer] Re: Excessive amounts of spam




We have been running it for - I guess - 2 month now without any trouble.



How stable is the beta version?

 Regards David Moore
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

J.P. MCP, MCSE, MCSE + INTERNET, CNE.
www.adsldirect.com.au <http://www.adsldirect.com.au/> for ADSL and 
Internet www.romtech.com.au <http://www.romtech.com.au/> for PC sales


Office Phone: (+612) 9453 1990
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Mobile Phone: +614 18 282 648
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*Sent:* Friday, 21 December 2007 8:10 AM
*To:* Message Sniffer Community
*Subject:* [sniffer] Re: Excessive amounts of spam

 Hello David,

 Thursday, December 20, 2007, 3:25:45 PM, you wrote:








Ø  If you are not yet running the latest beta then that might help quite 
a bit since the GBUdb (IP reputation system) does a good job capturing 
new spam from old bots even before rules are coded.


Please clarify are you saying it would help if we had the beta installed?

 Yes. The new GBUdb engine reduces leakage quite a bit. As more systems 
adopt the new version this will improve even more. Most new spam 
campaigns are started with some large fraction of existing bots. Messages 
from bots that have already been identified will be blocked even before 
new content rules can be generated (if needed). _M


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Chief Scientist,

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[sniffer] Re: Excessive amounts of spam

2007-12-20 Thread Darin Cox
I've heard comments that it has a higher catch rate... how about FP rate? 
Higher, the same, or lower?

Darin.


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From: "Pi-Web - Frank Jensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Message Sniffer Community" 
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 4:17 PM
Subject: [sniffer] Re: Excessive amounts of spam



We have been running it for - I guess - 2 month now without any trouble.


> How stable is the beta version?
>
>
>
> Regards David Moore
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> J.P. MCP, MCSE, MCSE + INTERNET, CNE.
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> Internet www.romtech.com.au <http://www.romtech.com.au/> for PC sales
>
> Office Phone: (+612) 9453 1990
> Fax Phone: (+612) 9453 1880
> Mobile Phone: +614 18 282 648
> Skype Phone: ADSLDIRECT
>
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> *From:* Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On
> Behalf Of *Pete McNeil
> *Sent:* Friday, 21 December 2007 8:10 AM
> *To:* Message Sniffer Community
> *Subject:* [sniffer] Re: Excessive amounts of spam
>
>
>
> Hello David,
>
>
>
> Thursday, December 20, 2007, 3:25:45 PM, you wrote:
>
>
>
>>
>
>
>
> Ø  If you are not yet running the latest beta then that might help quite
> a bit since the GBUdb (IP reputation system) does a good job capturing
> new spam from old bots even before rules are coded.
>
> Please clarify are you saying it would help if we had the beta installed?
>
>
>
> Yes.
>
>
>
> The new GBUdb engine reduces leakage quite a bit. As more systems adopt
> the new version this will improve even more. Most new spam campaigns are
> started with some large fraction of existing bots. Messages from bots
> that have already been identified will be blocked even before new
> content rules can be generated (if needed).
>
>
>
> _M
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
> Pete McNeil
>
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>
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[sniffer] Re: Excessive amounts of spam

2007-12-20 Thread Pi-Web - Frank Jensen


We have been running it for - I guess - 2 month now without any trouble.



How stable is the beta version?

 


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Hello David,

 


Thursday, December 20, 2007, 3:25:45 PM, you wrote:

 







Ø  If you are not yet running the latest beta then that might help quite 
a bit since the GBUdb (IP reputation system) does a good job capturing 
new spam from old bots even before rules are coded.


Please clarify are you saying it would help if we had the beta installed?

 

Yes. 

 

The new GBUdb engine reduces leakage quite a bit. As more systems adopt 
the new version this will improve even more. Most new spam campaigns are 
started with some large fraction of existing bots. Messages from bots 
that have already been identified will be blocked even before new 
content rules can be generated (if needed). 

 


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[sniffer] Re: Excessive amounts of spam

2007-12-20 Thread David Moore
How stable is the beta version?

 

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Of Pete McNeil
Sent: Friday, 21 December 2007 8:10 AM
To: Message Sniffer Community
Subject: [sniffer] Re: Excessive amounts of spam

 

Hello David,

 

Thursday, December 20, 2007, 3:25:45 PM, you wrote:

 


> 

Ø  If you are not yet running the latest beta then that might help quite a
bit since the GBUdb (IP reputation system) does a good job capturing new
spam from old bots even before rules are coded.

Please clarify are you saying it would help if we had the beta installed?

 

Yes. 

 

The new GBUdb engine reduces leakage quite a bit. As more systems adopt the
new version this will improve even more. Most new spam campaigns are started
with some large fraction of existing bots. Messages from bots that have
already been identified will be blocked even before new content rules can be
generated (if needed). 

 

_M

 

 

 

 

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[sniffer] Re: Excessive amounts of spam

2007-12-20 Thread Pete McNeil




Hello David,

Thursday, December 20, 2007, 3:25:45 PM, you wrote:




>


Ø  If you are not yet running the latest beta then that might help quite a bit since the GBUdb (IP reputation system) does a good job capturing new spam from old bots even before rules are coded.
Please clarify are you saying it would help if we had the beta installed?





Yes. 

The new GBUdb engine reduces leakage quite a bit. As more systems adopt the new version this will improve even more. Most new spam campaigns are started with some large fraction of existing bots. Messages from bots that have already been identified will be blocked even before new content rules can be generated (if needed). 

_M




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[sniffer] Re: Excessive amounts of spam

2007-12-20 Thread David Moore
Ø  If you are not yet running the latest beta then that might help quite a
bit since the GBUdb (IP reputation system) does a good job capturing new
spam from old bots even before rules are coded.

Please clarify are you saying it would help if we had the beta installed?

 

Regards David Moore
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From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Pete McNeil
Sent: Friday, 21 December 2007 6:14 AM
To: Message Sniffer Community
Subject: [sniffer] Re: Excessive amounts of spam

 

Hello Steve,

 

Thursday, December 20, 2007, 1:54:12 PM, you wrote:

 


> 

Hello,

Any word on the ramping up of Viagra spams getting through in the last week?
I'm now getting more and more clients complaining so maybe the Message
Sniffer traps are not getting these. Or is everyone off for the holidays
already?

 

I'll start sending over the ones I get to the spam address as a follow up.

 

We are definitely here 24/7/365.

 

We've seen a number of heavy campaigns recently, but we've generally been on
top of them. At the moment we have 98.3% capture on our heaviest spamtraps -
they are showing 400% of their nominal traffic - this is most likely
attributable to the new campaigns launched today: At least two new campaigns
launched today within the last few hours and we had both of those blocked
very quickly.

 

If you are not yet running the latest beta then that might help quite a bit
since the GBUdb (IP reputation system) does a good job capturing new spam
from old bots even before rules are coded.

 

Also, be sure that your rulebase is up to date. The best way to update your
rulebase is to trigger your update script based on our update notifications.
If instead you are using a scheduled task / cron then you will want to check
for a new rulebase at least once per hour.

 

Hope this helps,

 

_M

 

 

 

 

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[sniffer] Re: Excessive amounts of spam

2007-12-20 Thread Pete McNeil




Hello Steve,

Thursday, December 20, 2007, 1:54:12 PM, you wrote:




>


Hello,
Any word on the ramping up of Viagra spams getting through in the last week? I'm now getting more and more clients complaining so maybe the Message Sniffer traps are not getting these. Or is everyone off for the holidays already?

I'll start sending over the ones I get to the spam address as a follow up.





We are definitely here 24/7/365.

We've seen a number of heavy campaigns recently, but we've generally been on top of them. At the moment we have 98.3% capture on our heaviest spamtraps - they are showing 400% of their nominal traffic - this is most likely attributable to the new campaigns launched today: At least two new campaigns launched today within the last few hours and we had both of those blocked very quickly.

If you are not yet running the latest beta then that might help quite a bit since the GBUdb (IP reputation system) does a good job capturing new spam from old bots even before rules are coded.

Also, be sure that your rulebase is up to date. The best way to update your rulebase is to trigger your update script based on our update notifications. If instead you are using a scheduled task / cron then you will want to check for a new rulebase at least once per hour.

Hope this helps,

_M




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