[sniffer] Re: Experimental Abstract

2006-10-10 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Frederick,

Tuesday, October 10, 2006, 8:14:15 AM, you wrote:

> Where can I find a list of the latest result codes.

http://kb.armresearch.com/index.php?title=Message_Sniffer.TechnicalDetails.ResultCodes

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[sniffer] Re: Experimental Abstract

2006-10-10 Thread Frederick Samarelli

Where can I find a list of the latest result codes.
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Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 7:56 PM
Subject: [sniffer] Re: Experimental Abstract


I concur Pete in that I have been thinking about upping the weight for the
EXP tests. I recently changed ABST from 20 to 25. I attach at 25, hold at 30
and delete at 35.

SNIFFER-TRAVEL 47 20
SNIFFER-INSURANCE 48 20
SNIFFER-AV-PUSH 49 20
SNIFFER-WAREZ 50 30
SNIFFER-SPAMWARE 51 40
SNIFFER-SNAKEOIL 52 40
SNIFFER-SCAMS 53 40
SNIFFER-PORN 54 40
SNIFFER-MALWARE 55 25
SNIFFER-INKPRINTING 56 20
SNIFFER-SCHEMES 57 30
SNIFFER-CREDIT 58 30
SNIFFER-GAMBLING 59 30
SNIFFER-GENERAL 60 25
SNIFFER-EXP-ABST 61 25
SNIFFER-OBFUSCATION 62 25
SNIFFER-EXP-IP 63 20

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From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf

Of

Pete McNeil
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 3:15 PM
To: Message Sniffer Community
Subject: [sniffer] Re: Experimental Abstract

Hello Alberto,

In earlier times we had a philosophy that no single test should trap a
message. The idea was that my combining tests the accuracy of the
filter system would always (qualified) be improved.

The blackhats have become extremely aggressive about burning IPs and
generating image spam and/or other abstracted, short lived, and
narrowly targeted campaigns.

As a result of these changes, it is often the case that our abstract
rules are the only thing that will fire on a message.

The bad news is that holding on any single test will probably lead to
more false positives.

The good news is that SNF:Experimental/Abstract has a very low false
positive rate.

It may be time to alter our philosophy w/ regard to the
experimental/abstract rules group and recommend that wherever
practical, messages should probably be held (not deleted) based on a
hit in this rule group.

Hope this helps,

_M

Monday, October 9, 2006, 5:59:44 PM, you wrote:

> Hello

> I'm getting storms of spam and Sniffer sets them as (Experimental
> Abstract)
> Can someone explain how have I to treat them?

> Many thanks in advance
> Alberto



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[sniffer] Re: Experimental Abstract

2006-10-09 Thread Markus Gufler
> The good news is that SNF:Experimental/Abstract has a very 
> low false positive rate.
> 
> It may be time to alter our philosophy w/ regard to the 
> experimental/abstract rules group and recommend that wherever 
> practical, messages should probably be held (not deleted) 
> based on a hit in this rule group.

Already done around two weeks ago. The EXP/ABS-Test seems to be reliable and
- still in combination with other tests - very usefull to help block or
subject-mark the messages.

Markus



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[sniffer] Re: Experimental Abstract

2006-10-09 Thread Jay Sudowski - Handy Networks LLC
I was setting a lower weight on the experimental/abstract result codes
due to inconsistent results in the past.  However, after a review of
customer spam that was still getting through, I increased the weighting
on those codes to equal our hold weight.  Customer is much happier now.

-Jay

-Original Message-
From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Pete McNeil
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 6:15 PM
To: Message Sniffer Community
Subject: [sniffer] Re: Experimental Abstract

Hello Alberto,

In earlier times we had a philosophy that no single test should trap a
message. The idea was that my combining tests the accuracy of the
filter system would always (qualified) be improved.

The blackhats have become extremely aggressive about burning IPs and
generating image spam and/or other abstracted, short lived, and
narrowly targeted campaigns.

As a result of these changes, it is often the case that our abstract
rules are the only thing that will fire on a message.

The bad news is that holding on any single test will probably lead to
more false positives.

The good news is that SNF:Experimental/Abstract has a very low false
positive rate.

It may be time to alter our philosophy w/ regard to the
experimental/abstract rules group and recommend that wherever
practical, messages should probably be held (not deleted) based on a
hit in this rule group.

Hope this helps,

_M

Monday, October 9, 2006, 5:59:44 PM, you wrote:

> Hello

> I'm getting storms of spam and Sniffer sets them as (Experimental
> Abstract)
> Can someone explain how have I to treat them?

> Many thanks in advance
> Alberto



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[sniffer] Re: Experimental Abstract

2006-10-09 Thread John T (Lists)
I concur Pete in that I have been thinking about upping the weight for the
EXP tests. I recently changed ABST from 20 to 25. I attach at 25, hold at 30
and delete at 35.

SNIFFER-TRAVEL  47  20
SNIFFER-INSURANCE   48  20
SNIFFER-AV-PUSH 49  20
SNIFFER-WAREZ   50  30
SNIFFER-SPAMWARE51  40
SNIFFER-SNAKEOIL52  40
SNIFFER-SCAMS   53  40
SNIFFER-PORN54  40
SNIFFER-MALWARE 55  25
SNIFFER-INKPRINTING 56  20
SNIFFER-SCHEMES 57  30
SNIFFER-CREDIT  58  30
SNIFFER-GAMBLING59  30
SNIFFER-GENERAL 60  25
SNIFFER-EXP-ABST61  25
SNIFFER-OBFUSCATION 62  25
SNIFFER-EXP-IP  63  20

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> -Original Message-
> From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of
> Pete McNeil
> Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 3:15 PM
> To: Message Sniffer Community
> Subject: [sniffer] Re: Experimental Abstract
> 
> Hello Alberto,
> 
> In earlier times we had a philosophy that no single test should trap a
> message. The idea was that my combining tests the accuracy of the
> filter system would always (qualified) be improved.
> 
> The blackhats have become extremely aggressive about burning IPs and
> generating image spam and/or other abstracted, short lived, and
> narrowly targeted campaigns.
> 
> As a result of these changes, it is often the case that our abstract
> rules are the only thing that will fire on a message.
> 
> The bad news is that holding on any single test will probably lead to
> more false positives.
> 
> The good news is that SNF:Experimental/Abstract has a very low false
> positive rate.
> 
> It may be time to alter our philosophy w/ regard to the
> experimental/abstract rules group and recommend that wherever
> practical, messages should probably be held (not deleted) based on a
> hit in this rule group.
> 
> Hope this helps,
> 
> _M
> 
> Monday, October 9, 2006, 5:59:44 PM, you wrote:
> 
> > Hello
> 
> > I'm getting storms of spam and Sniffer sets them as (Experimental
> > Abstract)
> > Can someone explain how have I to treat them?
> 
> > Many thanks in advance
> > Alberto
> 
> 
> 
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[sniffer] Re: Experimental Abstract

2006-10-09 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Alberto,

In earlier times we had a philosophy that no single test should trap a
message. The idea was that my combining tests the accuracy of the
filter system would always (qualified) be improved.

The blackhats have become extremely aggressive about burning IPs and
generating image spam and/or other abstracted, short lived, and
narrowly targeted campaigns.

As a result of these changes, it is often the case that our abstract
rules are the only thing that will fire on a message.

The bad news is that holding on any single test will probably lead to
more false positives.

The good news is that SNF:Experimental/Abstract has a very low false
positive rate.

It may be time to alter our philosophy w/ regard to the
experimental/abstract rules group and recommend that wherever
practical, messages should probably be held (not deleted) based on a
hit in this rule group.

Hope this helps,

_M

Monday, October 9, 2006, 5:59:44 PM, you wrote:

> Hello

> I'm getting storms of spam and Sniffer sets them as (Experimental
> Abstract)
> Can someone explain how have I to treat them?

> Many thanks in advance
> Alberto



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