[sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Numeric spam topic change to png stock spam

2006-06-06 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Nick,

What is your false positive rate with that pattern?

_M

Tuesday, June 6, 2006, 10:05:18 AM, you wrote:

> Hi Markus -

> Markus Gufler wrote:

>>There is also another type of spam (stock spam now with attached png image)
>>this morning passing our filters.
>>
> I am catching these fairly easily -
> a combo filter -
> #combo-stockspammer-png.txt
> SKIPIFWEIGHT26
> TESTSFAILEDENDNOTCONTAINSEXTERNAL.REGEX.STOCKSPAMMER.BODY
> BODY5CONTAINSContent-Type: image/png;
> #
> The body regex is this:
> src="cid:[a-z0-9]{12}\$[a-z0-9]{8}\$[a-z0-9]{8}@

> -Nick

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[sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Numeric spam topic change to png stock spam

2006-06-06 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Jonathan,

I urge caution from experience... png images are not entirely rare,
and the cid: tag format in the regex is also common.

I'd love to be wrong - but I recall false positives with similar
attempts in the past.

Is there more to this than the two elements I just described -
something I'm not seeing?

_M

Tuesday, June 6, 2006, 10:19:36 AM, you wrote:

> Nick, very good method.  I have added that to my configuration as well now.

> - Original Message - 
> From: "Nick Hayer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Message Sniffer Community" 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 10:05 AM
> Subject: Re: [sniffer]Numeric spam topic change to png stock spam


>> Hi Markus -
>>
>> Markus Gufler wrote:
>>
>> >There is also another type of spam (stock spam now with attached png
> image)
>> >this morning passing our filters.
>> >
>> I am catching these fairly easily -
>> a combo filter -
>> #combo-stockspammer-png.txt
>> SKIPIFWEIGHT26
>> TESTSFAILEDENDNOTCONTAINSEXTERNAL.REGEX.STOCKSPAMMER.BODY
>> BODY5CONTAINSContent-Type: image/png;
>> #
>> The body regex is this:
>> src="cid:[a-z0-9]{12}\$[a-z0-9]{8}\$[a-z0-9]{8}@
>>
>> -Nick
>>
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Re: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Numeric spam topic change to png stock spam

2006-06-06 Thread Nick Hayer




Pete McNeil wrote:

  Hello Nick,

What is your false positive rate with that pattern?
  

Hmm lets go to the MDLP for yesterday  :)

                                           SS   HH  HS  SH   SA      
     SQ
REGEX.STOCK.BODY    331    0    0    66    0.667506   0.445565
COMBO.STOCK_PNG   16   0   0 1  0.882353  0.778547

The regex alone will fp; I score it with a 3 [hold on 10; delete on 24]
The png combo I just did it last night when I first saw the spam. So
far I have not see any fp. [ I combo it (the regex) with other tests as
well - which makes it much more reliable.]

-Nick



  
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Tuesday, June 6, 2006, 10:05:18 AM, you wrote:

  
  
Hi Markus -

  
  
  
  
Markus Gufler wrote:

  
  
  
  

  There is also another type of spam (stock spam now with attached png image)
this morning passing our filters.

  

I am catching these fairly easily -
a combo filter -
#combo-stockspammer-png.txt
SKIPIFWEIGHT26
TESTSFAILEDENDNOTCONTAINSEXTERNAL.REGEX.STOCKSPAMMER.BODY
BODY5CONTAINSContent-Type: image/png;
#
The body regex is this:
src=""moz-txt-link-freetext" href="">cid:[a-z0-9]{12}\$[a-z0-9]{8}\$[a-z0-9]{8}@

  
  
  
  
-Nick

  
  
  
  

   

  

  
  

  
  
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Re: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Numeric spam topic change to png stock spam

2006-06-06 Thread Jonathan Hickman
Because a small amount of weight is added, it is still sufficient for
tilting the scales on more occurrences than other image types.

- Original Message - 
From: "Pete McNeil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Message Sniffer Community" 
Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 10:44 AM
Subject: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Numeric spam topic change to png stock
spam


> Hello Jonathan,
>
> I urge caution from experience... png images are not entirely rare,
> and the cid: tag format in the regex is also common.
>
> I'd love to be wrong - but I recall false positives with similar
> attempts in the past.
>
> Is there more to this than the two elements I just described -
> something I'm not seeing?
>
> _M
>
> Tuesday, June 6, 2006, 10:19:36 AM, you wrote:
>
> > Nick, very good method.  I have added that to my configuration as well
now.
>
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: "Nick Hayer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Message Sniffer Community" 
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 10:05 AM
> > Subject: Re: [sniffer]Numeric spam topic change to png stock spam
>
>
> >> Hi Markus -
> >>
> >> Markus Gufler wrote:
> >>
> >> >There is also another type of spam (stock spam now with attached png
> > image)
> >> >this morning passing our filters.
> >> >
> >> I am catching these fairly easily -
> >> a combo filter -
> >> #combo-stockspammer-png.txt
> >> SKIPIFWEIGHT26
> >> TESTSFAILEDENDNOTCONTAINSEXTERNAL.REGEX.STOCKSPAMMER.BODY
> >> BODY5CONTAINSContent-Type: image/png;
> >> #
> >> The body regex is this:
> >> src="cid:[a-z0-9]{12}\$[a-z0-9]{8}\$[a-z0-9]{8}@
> >>
> >> -Nick
> >>
> >> >
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[sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Numeric spam topic change to png stock spam

2006-06-06 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Nick,

Thanks.

That's all good then :-)

_M

Tuesday, June 6, 2006, 10:46:55 AM, you wrote:

>
>  Pete McNeil wrote: 
>   
> Hello Nick,

> What is your false positive rate with that pattern? 
>  
>  Hmm lets go to the MDLP for yesterday  :)
>  
>                                             SS   HH  HS  SH   SA            SQ
>  REGEX.STOCK.BODY    331    0    0    66    0.667506   0.445565
>  COMBO.STOCK_PNG   16   0   0 1  0.882353  0.778547
>  
>  The regex alone will fp; I score it with a 3 [hold on 10; delete on 24]
>  The png combo I just did it last night when I first saw the spam.
> So far I have not see any fp. [ I combo it (the regex) with other
> tests as well - which makes it much more reliable.]
>  
>  -Nick
>  
>  
>  
>   
> _M

> Tuesday, June 6, 2006, 10:05:18 AM, you wrote: 
>   
>   
> Hi Markus - 
>   
>   
>  
>   
>   
> Markus Gufler wrote: 
>   
>   
>  
>   
>   
>   
> There is also another type of spam (stock spam now with attached png image)
> this morning passing our filters. 
>   
>   
> I am catching these fairly easily -
> a combo filter -
> #combo-stockspammer-png.txt
> SKIPIFWEIGHT26
> TESTSFAILEDENDNOTCONTAINSEXTERNAL.REGEX.STOCKSPAMMER.BODY
> BODY5CONTAINSContent-Type: image/png;
> #
> The body regex is this:
> src="cid:[a-z0-9]{12}\$[a-z0-9]{8}\$[a-z0-9]{8}@ 
>   
>   
>  
>   
>   
> -Nick 
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