Re[2]: [sniffer] Sniffer Updates

2004-12-27 Thread Pete McNeil
On Monday, December 27, 2004, 12:46:19 PM, Landry wrote:


LW Are folks taking advantage of the wget compression option before
LW downloading their rulebase updates?  If the slow download speeds are a
LW bandwidth saturation issue on the Sniffer end, this would certainly cut down
LW on the bandwidth requirements on their end and increase the download times
LW for everyone.

LW Also, I've got to ask, if the downloads are happening behind the scenes,
LW by an automated or triggered download, why the concern about speeds, as long
LW as your downloads are successful?

From what I've seen in the logs, only about 5% of folks are taking
advantage of gzip right now.

Also, I did some incantations on the log (grep, awk, uniq etc) and
came up with just under half of our customers downloading their
rulebase between 1200 and 1300 today. That's between 2 and 3 times as
many as should have done it ;-) -- so the backlog is explainable.

This kind of thing happens for lots of reasons and there are a lot of
ways to mitigate the problem.

A big one on the list - certainly - is using the gzip capability. With
only 5% of folks using this and average compression ratios well above
50% there is plenty of room to make a big dent in this.

_M




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Re: Re[2]: [sniffer] Sniffer Updates

2004-12-27 Thread Tom Baker | Netsmith Inc
Title: Re: Re[2]: [sniffer] Sniffer Updates






Automate harassment reminders to those of us not using it. :)

I think I'll go enable gzip tonight




-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Landry William sniffer@SortMonster.com
Sent: Mon Dec 27 12:36:06 2004
Subject: Re[2]: [sniffer] Sniffer Updates

On Monday, December 27, 2004, 12:46:19 PM, Landry wrote:


LW Are folks taking advantage of the wget compression option before
LW downloading their rulebase updates? If the slow download speeds are a
LW bandwidth saturation issue on the Sniffer end, this would certainly cut down
LW on the bandwidth requirements on their end and increase the download times
LW for everyone.

LW Also, I've got to ask, if the downloads are happening behind the scenes,
LW by an automated or triggered download, why the concern about speeds, as long
LW as your downloads are successful?

>From what I've seen in the logs, only about 5% of folks are taking
advantage of gzip right now.

Also, I did some incantations on the log (grep, awk, uniq etc) and
came up with just under half of our customers downloading their
rulebase between 1200 and 1300 today. That's between 2 and 3 times as
many as should have done it ;-) -- so the backlog is explainable.

This kind of thing happens for lots of reasons and there are a lot of
ways to mitigate the problem.

A big one on the list - certainly - is using the gzip capability. With
only 5% of folks using this and average compression ratios well above
50% there is plenty of room to make a big dent in this.

_M




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Re: Re[2]: [sniffer] Sniffer Updates

2004-12-27 Thread Jim Matuska
Title: Re: Re[2]: [sniffer] Sniffer Updates



Does anyone have any good instructions on how to 
modify your update scripts to use gzip? 

Jim Matuska Jr.Computer Tech2, CCNANez 
Perce TribeInformation Systems[EMAIL PROTECTED]

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Tom Baker | 
  Netsmith Inc 
  To: sniffer@SortMonster.com 
  Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 10:43 
  AM
  Subject: Re: Re[2]: [sniffer] Sniffer 
  Updates
  
  Automate harassment reminders to those of us not using it. 
  :)I think I'll go enable gzip tonight-Original 
  Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 
  Landry William sniffer@SortMonster.comSent: 
  Mon Dec 27 12:36:06 2004Subject: Re[2]: [sniffer] Sniffer 
  UpdatesOn Monday, December 27, 2004, 12:46:19 PM, Landry 
  wrote:LW Are folks taking advantage of the "wget" compression 
  option beforeLW downloading their rulebase updates? If the slow 
  download speeds are aLW bandwidth saturation issue on the Sniffer end, 
  this would certainly cut downLW on the bandwidth requirements on their 
  end and increase the download timesLW for everyone.LW 
  Also, I've got to ask, if the downloads are happening "behind the 
  scenes",LW by an automated or triggered download, why the concern 
  about speeds, as longLW as your downloads are 
  successful?From what I've seen in the logs, only about 5% of folks 
  are takingadvantage of gzip right now.Also, I did some 
  incantations on the log (grep, awk, uniq etc) andcame up with just under 
  half of our customers downloading theirrulebase between 1200 and 1300 
  today. That's between 2 and 3 times asmany as should have done it ;-) -- 
  so the backlog is explainable.This kind of thing happens for lots of 
  reasons and there are a lot ofways to mitigate the problem.A big 
  one on the list - certainly - is using the gzip capability. Withonly 5% of 
  folks using this and average compression ratios well above50% there is 
  plenty of room to "make a big dent" in this._MThis 
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RE: Re[2]: [sniffer] Sniffer Updates

2004-12-27 Thread Landry William
Title: Re: Re[2]: [sniffer] Sniffer Updates



See http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Help/AutomatingUpdatesHelp.htmlfor
some sample scripts.

Bill

  -Original Message-From: Jim Matuska
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 10:51
  AMTo: sniffer@SortMonster.comSubject: Re: Re[2]:
  [sniffer] Sniffer Updates
  Does anyone have any good instructions on how to
  modify your update scripts to use gzip? 
  
  Jim Matuska Jr.Computer Tech2, CCNANez
  Perce TribeInformation Systems[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
- Original Message - 
From:
Tom Baker |
Netsmith Inc 
To: sniffer@SortMonster.com 
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 10:43
AM
Subject: Re: Re[2]: [sniffer] Sniffer
Updates

Automate harassment reminders to those of us not using it.
:)I think I'll go enable gzip
tonight-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]To:
Landry William sniffer@SortMonster.comSent:
Mon Dec 27 12:36:06 2004Subject: Re[2]: [sniffer] Sniffer
UpdatesOn Monday, December 27, 2004, 12:46:19 PM, Landry
wrote:LW Are folks taking advantage of the "wget"
compression option beforeLW downloading their rulebase
updates? If the slow download speeds are aLW bandwidth
saturation issue on the Sniffer end, this would certainly cut downLW
on the bandwidth requirements on their end and increase the download
timesLW for everyone.LW Also, I've got to ask, if the
downloads are happening "behind the scenes",LW by an automated or
triggered download, why the concern about speeds, as longLW as your
downloads are successful?From what I've seen in the logs, only
about 5% of folks are takingadvantage of gzip right now.Also, I
did some incantations on the log (grep, awk, uniq etc) andcame up with
just under half of our customers downloading theirrulebase between 1200
and 1300 today. That's between 2 and 3 times asmany as should have done
it ;-) -- so the backlog is explainable.This kind of thing happens
for lots of reasons and there are a lot ofways to mitigate the
problem.A big one on the list - certainly - is using the gzip
capability. Withonly 5% of folks using this and average compression
ratios well above50% there is plenty of room to "make a big dent" in
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RE: Re[2]: [sniffer] Sniffer Updates

2004-12-27 Thread Michiel Prins
Title: Re: Re[2]: [sniffer] Sniffer Updates



I made this one, which is probably also somewhere on the 
sniffer site. Change directories and keys for your use:



d:
cd\Batch Files\Sniffer

wget http://sniffer:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/Sniffer/Updates/key.snf -O key.snf.gz --timestamping 
--header=Accept-Encoding:gzip

gzip -d -f key.snf.gz

:Check
fcom32 "c:\mdaemon\sniffer\key.snf" "d:\batch 
files\sniffer\key.snf"
if errorlevel 1 goto Test
goto :Done

:Test
snf2check.exe key.snf 
password
if errorlevel 1 goto Done

copy /y key.snf 
c:\mdaemon\sniffer
copy /y key.snf key.old

:Done



Check for wrapping by 
your e-mail client! I've put an empty line between every line, to make sure you 
see what belongs together. Next to the --timestaping feature of wget, I also use 
fcom32.exe to see if the file is really different than the one before. This 
example also uses gzip!

Greets,
Michiel



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim 
MatuskaSent: maandag 27 december 2004 19:51To: 
sniffer@SortMonster.comSubject: Re: Re[2]: [sniffer] Sniffer 
Updates

Does anyone have any good instructions on how to 
modify your update scripts to use gzip? 

Jim Matuska Jr.Computer Tech2, CCNANez 
Perce TribeInformation Systems[EMAIL PROTECTED]

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Tom Baker | 
  Netsmith Inc 
  To: sniffer@SortMonster.com 
  Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 10:43 
  AM
  Subject: Re: Re[2]: [sniffer] Sniffer 
  Updates
  
  Automate harassment reminders to those of us not using it. 
  :)I think I'll go enable gzip tonight-Original 
  Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 
  Landry William sniffer@SortMonster.comSent: 
  Mon Dec 27 12:36:06 2004Subject: Re[2]: [sniffer] Sniffer 
  UpdatesOn Monday, December 27, 2004, 12:46:19 PM, Landry 
  wrote:LW Are folks taking advantage of the "wget" compression 
  option beforeLW downloading their rulebase updates? If the slow 
  download speeds are aLW bandwidth saturation issue on the Sniffer end, 
  this would certainly cut downLW on the bandwidth requirements on their 
  end and increase the download timesLW for everyone.LW 
  Also, I've got to ask, if the downloads are happening "behind the 
  scenes",LW by an automated or triggered download, why the concern 
  about speeds, as longLW as your downloads are 
  successful?From what I've seen in the logs, only about 5% of folks 
  are takingadvantage of gzip right now.Also, I did some 
  incantations on the log (grep, awk, uniq etc) andcame up with just under 
  half of our customers downloading theirrulebase between 1200 and 1300 
  today. That's between 2 and 3 times asmany as should have done it ;-) -- 
  so the backlog is explainable.This kind of thing happens for lots of 
  reasons and there are a lot ofways to mitigate the problem.A big 
  one on the list - certainly - is using the gzip capability. Withonly 5% of 
  folks using this and average compression ratios well above50% there is 
  plenty of room to "make a big dent" in this._MThis 
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Re[2]: [sniffer] Sniffer updates...

2004-12-22 Thread Pete McNeil
On Wednesday, December 22, 2004, 12:06:17 PM, Matt wrote:

M  Scott Fosseen wrote: 

snip/

M   So my understanding is that IMail will still be updated for existing users.
  
M  ...sure, for a 40% increase in cost for your support contract,
M and absolutely no guarantee that they won't again cancel the
M product like they did a couple of months ago, only to offer a
M concession with this huge increase in price for a product that they
M have indicated clearly wouldn't be marketed to anyone but existing
M customers and new purchases would have to be negotiated by calling
M them on the phone and proving to them that you are worth their time.

snip/

M  Please don't get me started :)

Yes. Please don't get started on that here. The issue has been well
hashed in the IMail forum ;-)

As for Declude, they have always been awesome, and my conversations
with Barry and Scott and the rest of the team lead me to believe that
Declude will continue to be a great AV/AS product through the future
on IMail (ICS), Smartermail, and many other platforms.

As with any growth or change there are bound to be a few missteps here
and there along the way, but I'm sure Declude will always make things
right in the end with the support and guidance of the community around
it.

I know we will continue to support them in every way we can :-)

_M






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