[RCSE] Boomerang's Ready to Fly
ok I just got my Boomerang all Built by a local kid here in town and I gave it too him 2 days ago and its all finished and already picked it up I did ask him and he will sell the EPP version with complete radio gear installed with a Hitec Radio total price is 220.00 .. There are many choices of Colors .. ill say the Plane came out Great!! and its all trimmed out and ready for its first flight if interested in a ready to fly Combat Wing give me a email and ill hook you up with him here in so cal orange county area I live in the Huntington Beach Area.. thanks Mike.M RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] subscription gremlins
I was mysteriously unsubscribed by the subscription gremlins today and haven't seen an RCSE post since about 2:00pm. Was there anything of interest? Mark Mech [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.aerofoam.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Late Night Battery Help Needed
I'm tired, and my brain has stopped working. How do I connect a 5 cell pack that has 4 cells in a standard "Flat Pack" configuration, with a 5th cell sticking straight out from the midpoint of the last cell (pointing into the nose). Is there a website that would illustrate this? I'm simply having a hard time getting these wired in series.. Nathan Woods Orange, California [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] GP Spirit Series
I've got a GP Spirit 100 in the box that I plan to build this summer. Are there any web sites out there that have hints/tips/bashing instructions to make this a better plane? Jody Z RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] IHLGF toys
Somewhere around the beginning of the year, I set out to do some systems design, analysis, and optimization work on the F3J/B toys. The first order of business was to do some airfoil analysis and design. For familiarization and training, I decided to attack HLG. I broke down the HLG design into two parts. One was to do a poly 2 ch ship, and the other was to do a 4 ch toy. The 4 ch toy has some more degrees of design freedom in that one can let the TE deflection wander about a bit in order to get some optimization at various edges of the flight envelope. The primary design goal was to come up with toys that could fly well in the "Poway" conditions (windy, turbulent, frequently strong lift and sink), but still had the light air performance that the early morning rounds required. It turned out to be a more encompassing task than I originally envisioned, particularly in that airfoil design is a highly iterative process that requires more than a little intuition. This is particularly true when considering TE devices. To make a really long story only long, I finished up with two airfoils, one for a poly, and one for the 4 ch. Both had a planform optimized for the airfoil, considering the differing flight weights of each. I did not plan this, but the 4 ch planform ended up being almost exactly the same as the Encore, something that was pointed out to me after I finished my design optimisation. The geometry was shipped off to Don Peters and Phil Pearson, and the real work began. Phil started the construction process, making the poly ship first. He started calling up with glowing reports on the legs of the plane, along with comments on the low minimum sink, but he seemed to want to get beyond the poly, I think the quote went something like, "the world doesn't need another poly HLG". Phil and Don had been working on a pod/boom fuselage for some time, and the new toys were recipients of this treatment. I was cautious, but they used these way cool free flight tail booms that are really light and stiff. As an added plus, they have a very thin aluminum skin that gives a sharp flash in the sun twice in every circle. They are not cheap, but well worth it. A couple of weeks before the IHLGF, he finished up a new 4 ch bird, and proclaimed it successful once he flew it. The goal was for me to get a version of each the week before the contest, but UPS did not cooperate. He shipped about 10 days before the event, but I did not get them until just about the same time as when he drove by on his way to Poway. Lesson learned, don't count on second day delivery... Got my first flights on the toys in gathering darkness on Thursday evening, and now I was satisfied. Friday was spent in figuring out the setups, and remedial HLG stick time. The poly flew great, but is kinda one dimensional (cruise around, find lift, repeat...). It does have an amazing speed range belieing its under 7 oz weight. Hook a thermal, go up, scoot off to the next ride. Very relaxing compared to driving a 4 ch bird around. The poly has a couple of quirks that we still have to iron out, but it is pretty close. Just have to solve a small pitch instability that appears with high yaw rates. The 4 ch plane was a step up from the 6063. Not as much as I'd been expecting, but it seemed to have a better low end and mid range without sacrificing the upwind dash unduly. Where it really was nice, was with ballast. Weight did not really hamper the thermalling characteristics, whereas the 6063 kinda hates weight. Also, adding + camber for thermalling really worked out as advertised. The 6063 has a fairly narrow operating band when using camber, but the new airfoil has a much wider useful range with camber. Could go on more, but enough for now. Joe RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] IHLGF (long)
I'm finally slowing down, and staying in one place for a couple of days... Did a quick scan of the legion of email on RCSE from the past couple of weeks, and have some thoughts to pass on. First is on the mecca of hand launch, the soiree at Poway last weekend. The second is on the launch height thread (will be a separate email). The third will be on the toys that I flew. (another separate email). As usual, the Poway event was amazing. Lots of talent, lots of cool toys, and lots of thermals. To go with that, lots of wind and sink as well. The TPG guys did a great job with their smooth running of the event, and really kept things running along very well. Made some tough, but fair calls in regards to misc. score entry errors. Saw it happen to other people this year, was a recipient last year, painful no matter who gets it. But, they are fair and consistent in their application of the rules. It seems that the average skill level is increasing at a pretty good pace in HLG. There were folks that made it into the flyoffs (and did quite well) that flew in the sportsman class only a short time ago. And, it definitely wasn't only the "elite" that won rounds. Lots of blood was poured out on the score sheets all through the contest. It used to be that one could do quite well with only a reasonable performance. Nowadays, almost all of the pilots are doing pretty well. Fun to watch. On Sunday, I walked downwind of the field a ways and watched a few rounds from a vantage point on the hill. The planes performance, the pilot skills, and the helper calling all has to come together to get competitive results. One can really see the various parts coming together with a bit of distance and elevation to get a good vantage point. It was also amazing to have a look at all of the new toys that are becoming available. As people are getting a better understanding of efficient manufacturing methods, along with improvements in the understanding of the low Re aerodynamics, the planes are getting better and better. I'm not sure that I like some of the design trends due to aeroelastic effects and flutter, but in general we are getting some pretty good performance out of these small light toys. A whole lot of fun was had in Poway this year (as usual), Joe RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] HLG Launch height
Sorry about the very delayed response on this one, I've been away from my email for quite some time now. The now old launch height thread kind of reminds me of the early threads on DS. I remember the initial posts that I got in response to my first DS posts. Most of which had comments that were disbelieving, uncertain, or showed a lack of the underlying physical realities. I'm seeing the same trend with the HLG heights. A few years ago, I did a HLG launch simulation to better understand the underlying mechanics. My results indicated that in calm air I should be able to get about 70 feet of altitude, and with 20 ft/sec of wind, I should get about 100 feet. This is assuming an 80 ft/sec throw speed, wind tunnel airfoil data, and a standard build up for the remaining drag elements. The 80 ft/sec initial throw speed was a number that I estimated based on a good softball throw, and other SWAGs. It turned out to be fairly accurate, as two different radar guns have consistently clocked me at 50 to 55 mph. Another comment, the better HLGs out there at present have minimum sink values in the 1 ft/sec range, at least based on analysis using the wind tunnel, as well as the predicted, airfoil performance. This is consistent with the 1:10 to 1:15 "dead" air hang times that have been recorded, if one assumes the ~70 feet initial launch altitude. An interesting trade here is to add drag to the airframe to bring the calm air launch height down to the only 40' - 50' "claimed" possible. I had to triple the total profile drag to get down to 50'. To achieve only 40', the drag had to go to 5x the wind tunnel + build-up profile drag. One more comment on the laser range finder toy. It, by itself, seems to be quite accurate. It seems to agree very well with our previously hand-measured 145 m F3J lines. And, I know of other applications that use them repeatably and reliably. So, I'm pretty confident of their absolute range readings. Whether there is a slant range component is up to the users capability to figure out what is vertical. I'm not too worried, as 15 degrees of vertical error (a lot), only shows a 3.5% absolute altitude error. This is about the scatter error that we noted when throwing in stable air, although the scatter was undoubtedly due to variations in the individual throws. Joe Wurts PS and BTW, If you cannot do at least two or more loops after a throw around the power lines on the west of the Visalia field, I would recommend getting into tip launch, as your conventional launch is not up to par. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Beginners Spoiler Install 101 LONG
There are many ways to install a spoiler in wings. Most that I have use 1" trailing edge stock you pick up at a hobby shop. You need enough to cover a span about 3 or 4 ribs worth. I like my spoilers to stand up 90 deg. To get this you need to put a 1/4" X 1/4" peace of balsa behind the spar. This will let the control arm,( that is under the spoiler blade ) extend forward of the pivot point. This will give you the leverage needed to pull back on to make the 90 deg. If you don't do this, it won't come up 90. Maybe 75 deg. Use a good hinge tape, 3/4" is good if you can find it, if not 1" will do. Let's see, we have the spoiler blade ( edge stock ) with the thick side up against the 1/4",the ribs notched out so it lay's on top of the ribs and is taking the same shape that the ribs were. The ends of the spoiler should end up on the inside of a rib. You can glue a little balsa to the side of the rib for the blade to rest on when the spoiler is close. I like to put some balsa between two ribs to give me some support for the tube to be glued on. The tube must line up with the control arm on the blade. The rest of the tube must make a gentle bend and pass through the ribs un till it gets to the center of the wing. You now have to make a choice. Are you going to put a servo in the wing or mount it in the fuse. Bolt on wings can go ether way. You put the servo in the fuse forward of the wing with a long control arm. Take a brass spacer that fits in a servo grommet and put the flat part up and put a servo mounting screw through it into the end of a control arm. You may have to cut off a little of the screw that goes through the control arm to clear movement. Now take the string and tie a loop just big enough to clear the brass on the servo arm. Thread the string through the tube and it should line up with the control arm on the spoiler blade. When the servo arm moves forward, it will pull the control arm on the spoiler blade and up it comes. You can mount the servo in the wing. I like this the best. If the wing pop's off on a hard landing, and you lose your rubber bands. The wing just unplugs itself from your servo extension plug in the fuse's. Mount the servo on it's side next to the center rib as close to the spar as possible. Route the tubes so that they line up with the servo arm. One tube will be longer from the other half of the wing, because the servo will be on one side of center rib. Here is a neat tip for the control arm on the spoiler blade: Use a peace of brass tubing. (Small enough so only the string and a round tooth pick won't quite fit in together) Bend the top 1/3 of it to the right 90 de (or left)and the bottom 1/3 of it straight up at you, 90 de. This part that you just bent toward you, is the control arm that the string will go into from the tube that goes to the servo. Epoxy the rest of the brass to the bottom of the spoiler with the part that you bent towards you at the hinges line. Don't let epoxy get in the tube. With the spoiler on the wing and string going through the brass tube, push the brass tube towards the spar. This will give you that 90 deg I told you about. The tooth pick is used to wedge the string in and make it tight. This gives you the ability to make fine adjustments. Now do this to the other half of the wing and if you really want control do top and bottom spoilers. There is still things that need to be done. You need to make the spoiler blade return when not being deployed. You can put a lead weight on the trailing edge to make it drop down. You can put some kind of hook on the spar and another one on the blade and put a rubber band on it to pull it closed. But my favorite is using a peace of music wire and 2 small pieces of brass tubing, along with a longer peace of brass tubing. Cut off a peace of brass tubing that will go from one end of the spoiler bay to 1" past the control arm on bottom of spoiler blade. This tube will be epoxied to the 1/4" balsa right below the hinge line. You need to relieve part of the balsa to make it a clean job. But before you epoxy it in, you need to put the music wire in it and cut off so that you have 1" sticking out both ends of the brass tube. Bend the wire over 90 deg both ends in the same direction. Cut off a peace of brass tubing and epoxy it to one end on the spoiler bay on the rib, up and down, parallel to the spar going vertically. One end of the music wire will go into this tube. You can now epoxy the long tube on the 1/4 balsa just below the hinge line. Put the spoiler blade in place and line up the music wire that is now hanging down. Mark that spot on the blade. Take a peace of brass tubing just a little less then 1" and epoxy it to the bottom of the blade. Pull that music wire towards you and slide the brass tube that on the blade on it. The tension of the music wire will close the blade when the servo in relaxed. The music wire will slide inside the tube as the spoiler is raised One more thing. At the
Re: [RCSE] Boomerang's Ready to Fly
Hmmm... $45 Boomerang $65 Hitec Focus III radio $.62 worth of packing tape (estimate) $? for time spent Somehow I think you got taken... UNLESS there is another explanation for this curiously composed email. Next time, you might want to try using punctuation, capitalization and grammar checker. Jody Z ok I just got my Boomerang all Built by a local kid here in town and I gave it too him 2 days ago and its all finished and already picked it up I did ask him and he will sell the EPP version with complete radio gear installed with a Hitec Radio total price is 220.00 .. There are many choices of Colors .. ill say the Plane came out Great!! and its all trimmed out and ready for its first flight if interested in a ready to fly Combat Wing give me a email and ill hook you up with him here in so cal orange county area I live in the Huntington Beach Area.. thanks Mike.M RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] RE: Need Battery Help
Well, I un-soldered my fingers from the battery, stepped back and thought about it a little more. Turns out my polarity diagram was right, I just didn't follow it :-) It's close to 3 AM, and finally, my plane is ready to practice at Torrey this afternoon. Got be ready for the International F3F on Saturday! Nathan Woods Orange, California [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Wing loading formula
Wing loading formula - the nonscientific way - no need to use a Cray or similar :-)! Basically it is just weight through wing area - if the wing is tapered, you have to project a root rib on the centre line (if the wing doesn't pass right through, that is): For a rectangular wing area is width x span For a tapered wing (root width (see above) + tip width)/2 x span (but see below for an easier way to do it). For extremely complex planforms it becomes more complicated - my recommendation is to take the building plan and cut out one wing panel as exact as you manage. If you have a good scales you weigh the plan. Now cut a ten by ten inch square of the same plan. Weigh it! Now you'll divide the wingpanel weight x 2 with the square's weight and you have a fairly exact measure of how big the wing is if you multiply the result with a hundred :-)! Doesn't matter if the wing is less than 100 sq. inches - the method still works! If your scales aint that exact you should make a template out of cardboard of the wing outline and ditto with the square - same piece of cardboard must be used as to ensure it weighs the same per sq. inch! And then redo the division of weights - as above! In most cases it is just enough to measure the width at half-span (that is halfway between the tip and the wing root) and multiply by the span of the wing! Works with tapered wings, as well as with rectangular, as well as with swept wings like Boomerangs and Zagis! Yours, Tord, Sweden -- If reply difficulties - use [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tord S. Eriksson, Ovralidsg.25:5, S-422 47 Hisings Backa, Sweden RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Wished I had something good to say about the Stratos
Bummer, I wasted a wish cuz I come to find out that there are so many good things to say about the Stratos (From ShredAir) that it will easily fill the RC Soaring Digest article. This is a truly competiton designed sailplane. While it looks like just another Euro-Clone V tailed Moldy that seems priced a little too high for what looks as pretty as some of the others at about $200 ish less, close examination starts you realizing that this bird is different. Without trying it comes out closer to 65ozs than 70. (Some weight concious guys report 65 by watching what it eats during radio installations.) But to heck with the weight myths, holding the plane up to the sun, the innards start your realizations about the thought process behind its wing layups. Looking down the fuse innards show carefully placed carbon (carbon is used on purpose as opposed to impress prospective buyers) and explains why the fuse is so stiff. The wing sits on the 'Conn tower" of its nuclear submarine shaped fuse providing you with a great grip for hard throws on the winch or for handtossing to practice landings. The flaps and ailerons and ruddervators show the same unusual sparing but again on purpose (with concern for stiffness and weight) of carbon , which should help resist the heat warping seen on some other moldies...and keeping them light...in fact so light that lots of guys are using Volz Zips for ailerons and ruddervators (previously to super micros, Zips were THE servo for HLGs) and Micro Maxx only on flaps. The 'kit' is lacking in some tiny stuff and its clear that the plane is made by flyers not kit people. The Stratos has been the king of the air in Canada for the last few years and showed it could win in Arizona this year inspite of a guy with little regard for V's. I got a call from Dan D out of Bristol Tn today. He got his finished and in the air and didn't put it away till after about 7 hours of flying. He used Arend Borst's set ups (thanks Arend for sharing your set ups, and yes it will be in the kit and in the article) Dan and I waited about 4 months for ours, and initially got sort of when we saw what came in the box, but as our brains got in gear,, we's grinning now :-) Yep if you are interested, you better get some cash down for the next shippment! Anyway, back to finishing up mine. Gordy hot in Louisville this weekend RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] High starts, more
Think about it, you are still using 10 pounds of pull from the rubber, but now it has to lift up 2.5 times as much rubber 2.5 times higher (center of mass of rubber). That's where a lot of the lifting power is being lost. ... In fact, the fractional difference in calculated launch height is the same independent of the length of the high start. I agree with this also, percentage of energy comsumed by raising tubing to vertical, versus potential energy of the tubing is length independent. It's also a small effect. For example, I launch a 2.25 pound DAW 1-26 2m using 60 feet of tubing that weighs 1.275 pounds, to an altitude of 270 feet. 38.25 pounds of work done lifting tubing to vertical, 607.5 ft lbs of work done lifting glider, and my guestimate is that over 300 ft lbs of energy is lost to drag (300 ft lbs if 180 foot pull is required, 580 ft lbs was lost if 210 foot pull is required). I have calculated the energy that goes into lifting the high start rubber into the air. This does make a minor difference in launch height, but not enough to explain what Angel and Jeff Reid have observed. I need to amend my "observations". In still air, my revised "guestimate" for hi-start efficiency is in the 50% to 70% range, which includes the efficiency numbers you've observed. Variables include glider's lift to drag ratio, speed, chute drag, and line drag. Headwinds will make a huge difference in this number. I've seen a floater launched with 25 feet of small tubing, 200 feet of line in a mild headwind, seemed like it took 1/2 minute for it to reach altitude, efficiency in this case would be well over 100% (if wind energy ignored). My "ideal" formula for hi-starts is 3.5 to 1 line to elastic ratio, with 4x tension to glider weight ratio at 350% strain. (For slow speed floaters, maybe 3x tension to weight ratio and lower ratio.) I think this is about what Dick Williamson states also. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] High starts, more
With my GL, I started "highstarting" with a Dynaflite 2M Upstart and then graduated to an NSP Standard Hi-start Upstart has 30' of latex and 200' of line with a tension of 7 pounds. The Hi-start has 100' of latex and 400' of line at a tension of 15 pounds. The first launch of the GL with the Hi-start was done conservatively: I pulled the Hi-start back to only 7 pounds tension and launched. And a winpy launch it was-- no velocity, no height. I attributed that to the greater weight of the Hi-start _cf_ the Upstart and the greater drag of the Hi-start line _cf_ the Upstart line. The weight and drag probably wasn't the issue, it was the "wimpy" launch. With the "up-start", the seven pounds of tension reduces gradually as the tubing "unstretches", but with the "hi-start" seven pounds of tension is only a tiny pull and reduces very rapidly (see chart below). With 100 feet of hi-start, a 7 pound pull is 50 feet, and it does about 175 ft lbs of work, because the tension reduces so rapidly. With 30 feet of up-start, a 7 pound pull is 69 feet, and it does about 330 ft lbs of work, because the tension initally is reducing gradually while the tubing "unstretches". This is because tubing doesn't stretch linearly. After the initial force to get the tubing stretched an additional 50%, it doesn't take a lot more force to stretch the tubing further still. strain versus force in pounds up-start hi-start 000%0.00.0 050%3.57.0 100%4.59.0 150%5.5 11.0 200%6.5 13.0 250%7.7 15.4 300%8.5 17.0 350%9.5 19.0 You can also see a plot of data for black tubing which has about the same tension numbers a latex tubing at http://www.hollyday.com/www/rubberdata.htm RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Directions to Pennsylvania HLG meet
Greetings: Ray Hayes is in need of some assistance. Seems as though he's planning on attending a certain HLG meet this weekend in Pennsylvania somewhere in the vincinity of Carlisle. Unfortunately, in his eagerness to get out there and hob nob with his HLG buddies, RAY FORGOT THE DIRECTIONS TO THE FIELD!!! So, now, Ray sits sadly by himself is a Super 8 Motel, lost and forlorn. Could someone please help Ray regain his happiness (if not his dignity) and give him a call at: (717)245-9898 Room 202 And tell him where to go (and maybe give him directions to the field as well). Regards, Darwin Garrison -- Garrison Aerodrome R/C Models Phone: (219)413-4122 Fax: (219)486-9761 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.rc-aero.com or http://www.garrisonaerodrome.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Stratos SL WOW!
I spent 6.5 hours today flying a new Stratos SL. The performance of this F3J sailplane was astonishing. From the first flight at 12:30 PM to the last flight at 6:30 PM this plane would not come down until I asked kindly and then it always landed within 5 ft of me. The stability of the landing was awesome! I put it through some stiff maneuvers and it responded with "you ain't seen nothing yet! For $895 I have yet to own such a smooth flying, high performance sailplane that performs this well. Thanks to Dieter and Marcella of Shredair for safely (excellent shipping and great business) sending me this high performing work of art. Well, I'm charging batteries and planning for another round with this bird Saturday. If my Cobra fly's this well I'll be as a tick on the back of a coon dog! See ya'll at Mid South Good Lift! Dan Didgeon RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Directions to Pennsylvania HLG meet
Hey Darwin I got Ray rescued. He is actually only about 8 miles from my contest. I was just getting ready to x off line when your message came up. Denny PS You could have come along RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Re: Boomerang's Ready to Fly
You're right. My numbers were off if one had to buy everything new and used Ultracote instead of tape. Our club bought several Boomerangs at the same time so we all got a small price break. That estimate was secondary to to main point of my reply to the original. From the perspective of someone who doesn't personally know the original poster, it "appeared" to have been written by someone with only a 7th grade education. It may have been written in haste to get the information out with no regard to sentence structure or any other number of explanations. I am by no measure an English scholar but I do attempt to make my posts as grammatically correct as my Florida education allows. I've been known to be quite cynical at times and I probably over analyzed the entire post. I won't go into what I assumed was going on because we all know what happens when we assume. I regret and apologize for offending anyone and in the future I will think twice before posting so late at night. Jody Z (flame suit on // currently scorched) Jody, Your post kind of touched me off. Your numbers were not just off, but were massively ignorant. $55 Boomerang $75 Hitec w/battery $15 Plane NiCad $30 2 color's Ultracoat - $175 Materials, not including razor blades, glue, sandpaper, and $$strapping tape ($8 a roll) RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Wishes CAN come true!
Flew my #1 plane for the 2000 world championships today! It was one of the three identical PSYKOS I am taking to Greece, ...and it is the stuff of dreams. A real planform! Actual computer- optimized breaks, unlike the euro-hershey bar "planforms". It's red-white and blue molded, blended three-part paint beautiful! Quad-taper 124" span! 7/8 by 5/8 square carbon joiner from HELL! All up weight, even with the killer programmable MPX servos and bitchin' hoops wiring harnesses 63 ounces...YAH- BABY!!! Was launching it today, lots of wind zoom! Then specking it and diving it from 2000 feet to the deck.quiet! fast! Clean! A real multi-task plane! And it has a full-flying all-molded stab, no V-tail blues on landing! I like knowing going to the worlds to represent my Nation, that no one on the field will have a better plane than I do! And it will be a killer for USA TD events as well, with the unmatched accuracy of the cruciform tail for spot landing! "happy is the man with a full quiver" John Roe Laguna Hills, Ca www.martialartsacademy.org "Be careful what YOU wish for you just might end up with it..." RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] HLG Launch height
I look forward to seeing the launches and loops at Visalia this year. You always amaze me. Chris Adams RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
