[RCSE] A clean plane is a happy plane.

2001-01-21 Thread Charles French

got this from rec.aviation.soaring newsgroup.

http://www.cswnet.com/~n5rqd/temp/hanger.jpg


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RE: [RCSE] piezo gyros

2001-01-21 Thread Gary Retterbush

I've used a "Wingo" dual output (aileron) gyro on a couple of my hot
electrics and find it to be exactly as advertised (good). The set up I have
allows switching it on and off in flight as well as adjusting the
sensitivity. Good, fast servos are a must for a gyro of this type to do its
job correctly. Most of the scale jet turbine guys over here are using them
on the nose gear steering and they make take off much easier. And what would
choppers be today without them?

Remember, these are not autopilots as most people think of them. They just
like to hold the last position.

Gary

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[RCSE] MVSA challenges your club to do something cool

2001-01-21 Thread tony estep


check out the following page:
http://www.mvsaclub.com/seethrmal.htm
On it there is a scheme for a cool club project, and a
challenge to see which club will be the first to come
up with a thermal detector. The rules are simple:

no prizes, just bragging rights;
any club, U.S. or otherwise, is eligible;
build a thermal detector using the design proposed on
our web page...
...or any other design for that matter (ours may be
full of hot air);
devise some credible tests for demonstrating that it
works;
send some pictures and a description of your system
that we can post on our web page;
post drawings and descriptions in the public domain
(your web site or ours) so that others can learn from
your success;
assuming that your description is posted on your web
site, link your description to our web site and let us
link ours to yours.

Go for it!

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[RCSE] Patton P-51B flys

2001-01-21 Thread Rick Brown and Jill Wiest

Thanks to those that posted info on the Patton Aircraft P51B a few weeks
ago.

I had completed it last evening and took it out in some decent
conditions today at Chickies Rock here in Central PA. Nice sunny day,
after a storm yesterday and evening that left behind about 5 to 6 inches
of snow. West wind about 15 - 20.

 The P-51B weighed in at 33 oz for a loading of 12oz/sq.ft.
 I used two HS-85MG servos side by side burried in the fuse using the
supplied torque rods instead of mounting them out in the wing panels.
Same weight as one std. servo. Used 3/16" thick balsa instead of the
coroplast for tails. I have to agree with Steve on the above two items,
gives a nice clean look rather than the rods hangin out in the open.
 One std. servo for the elevator and a Hitec 555 RX with a 4 cell 600AE
battery pack. Needed about 1 3/4oz lead in the nose to balance.
 Cut in a hatch for the Rx to be able to accesss it if I want to change
crystals or remove it without butchering the fuse.
 I set two tubes into the fuse to route the antenna. One down the length
of the fuse side and another back up the underside of the fuse to the
wing. This allowed the antenna to be fed back to the tail and back up
the underside and leave no exposed antenna hanging loose.

 Test flights were a bit less than anticipated. All in all, it flew
well, but the bigger P-51B didn't quite live up to my expectations for
speed. I have a Mini P51 by Patton and it flys very fast. Maybe it has
spoiled me.

Checked the wing to tail and it is very close to zero incidence, maybe
just a 1/2 degree positive. I have the CG just a little behind what is
called out on the plans. Using the throws recommended by Steve after
inquiring where to set them due to no info in the instruct. 3/4" up and
down on the ailerons and 1/2" up and down on elevator.

I expected more speed out of this plane considering the very thin
airfoil and the wing loading. Was I expecting too much?

 Anyone out there that is flying one of these planes care to comment
about it's performance? Any suggestions about wind conditions and
ballasting? How much weight for specified wind speed/lift conditions?
Any comments on control throws? CG?

Thanks for any info,
Later,
RB
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[RCSE] daw

2001-01-21 Thread Liveto Soar

Does Dave ever get on this list server?
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Re: [RCSE] Re: Goop Adhesive Technique

2001-01-21 Thread jslarkin

Bill   My servos are NOT glued into my Zagi.  Simply a tight press fit and
taped over.  Have had no trouble with this arrangement.  Seeya   Jim
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Subject: Re: [RCSE] Re: Goop Adhesive Technique


 I'm wondering if an expanding water-activated urethane glue, like
Pro-bond, couldn't be used to install servos in a wing (covered with the
heat-shrink, as Don suggests)?  I'm getting ready to install a couple of
HS-81's in a Zagi and an looking for an elegant way to do this.  Goop won't
work, it dissolves the polystyrene ("white") foam.

 --Bill

 On Sat, 20 Jan 2001 20:25:25 -0500 "Don Stackhouse @ DJ Aerotech"
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Robert Buxton asks:

 Picking the lists brains for the best way to use GOOP adhesive to plant
two
 JR241 servos in the fuselage of a Carbon D-Lite**...

 I've tried using masking tape between the servo and the glue, with poor
 results. The tape seems to split in half along its thickness after a
while,
 resulting first in some funny changes in trim and control throw, followed
 the servo coming loose completely. Yes, it was a good brand of mnasking
 tape, but maybe not the same as what other people have used.

 What works for me is shrink tubing, like what's used to wrap battery
packs.
 Just shrink a ring of it around the servo (make sure it wraps a little bit
 around the corners to guarantee that the servo can't slip out the end),
 scuff the surface a little with some medium sandpaper, then Goop or C/A
the
 outer surface of the shrink tubing to the fuselage.

 If you ever need to remove the servo, slit the shrink tubing. Once the
 servo is safely out, it's fairly easy to peel the shrink tubing and glue
 residue out, then just use a new piece of shrink tubing to install the new
 servo.


 Don Stackhouse @ DJ Aerotech
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[RCSE] Stylus

2001-01-21 Thread Brian Smith

Listing for Henry...Stylus--W/ glider card--both books, two fm rec.s, all on 
ch 35.."very little use"  call Henry at 931 967 6890  TNX  Brian
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Re: [RCSE] Stylus

2001-01-21 Thread Brian Smith

Sorry:  The Stylus is $350.TNX  Brian


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Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 20:07:21 -0600

Listing for Henry...Stylus--W/ glider card--both books, two fm rec.s, all 
on
ch 35.."very little use"  call Henry at 931 967 6890  TNX  Brian
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RE: [RCSE] piezo gyros

2001-01-21 Thread Joe Rodriguez

I am very familiar with the Wingo Gyro it is the size of a servo and of high
quality, on the Stylist it is setup to be turned on and off  via switch also
I am able to adjust the gain during flight. As a contest pilot I am always
looking for an edge so experimenting with the gyro was a natural. The gyro
is just another tool and if not used properly will yield poor results. I
have seen not so skilled pilots use the gyro and noticed no increase in
flight or contest performance as mentioned earlier it will not fly or core
thermals for you. Where I have seen the payoff for me is it's ability to
smooth out your turns at great distance on the edge where you are guessing
part of the time what your plane is doing and in landing. You make you base
turn your locked on the spot any side gusts the gyro will begin to correct
and so your aileron input is minimal but you still have to land your ship.
Will I use one in 2001 contest season? the jury is still out. I am still
getting flying time in on the Artimus super light (57oz) running MCV2's this
is a sweet heart but not for everyone, for a molded ship it is made with
enough martial to do the job. This bleeding edge ship will dent if you stair
too long but will take a full pedal launch with the best of them. See Tom at
F3X.com for info but this version is very very limited... joe



-Original Message-
From: Gary Retterbush [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 2:07 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [RCSE] piezo gyros


I've used a "Wingo" dual output (aileron) gyro on a couple of my hot
electrics and find it to be exactly as advertised (good). The set up I have
allows switching it on and off in flight as well as adjusting the
sensitivity. Good, fast servos are a must for a gyro of this type to do its
job correctly. Most of the scale jet turbine guys over here are using them
on the nose gear steering and they make take off much easier. And what would
choppers be today without them?

Remember, these are not autopilots as most people think of them. They just
like to hold the last position.

Gary

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