[RCSE] Neon Fuse Sold
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RE: [RCSE] "SAILPLANER" Frequency Control Freq Board System
I guess it works for them because it's a small area that they fly in. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 2:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] "SAILPLANER" Frequency Control Freq Board System The LNSSG has an even simpler system. Their board has parallel pieces of wood with slots cut in them and mounted on a backboard. The parallel pieces are mounted so that an AMA card (or business card) can be bowed and inserted in the slots and over the proper channel number. Since they're bowed, the tension holds the cards in place. I don't know who thought this up but it works pretty slick, is very simple and has less chance of breakage than the clothes pins. THAT is the way Sailplaners should never do it. Why cuz the 'sailplaner norm' is this: Have the pin, have the channel. Systems used by power clubs are used by them for a reason. They fly different than sailplaners. When a power guy comes to the site, he puts his card (usually AMA) in the frequency slot, then sits down at the table and argues politics, prattles on about full size fighter planes or bombers, the past world wars and how much more expensive props and fuel is at the hobby shop than from tower. When some one decides they actually want to fly for a change, they walk up to the board to see if the slot is full, when they see it is they look at the name and yell out, "Hey Jerry, you gonna fly?" And Jerry yells out "Maybe later, go ahead!" Sailplaner's travel. To contests and other places, so the first thing that happens with the card system is that we end up leaving our AMA cards all over the place. Sailplaners don't stand on flight blocks, we tend to roam around, if nothing else we are out near the landing tape, or have walked over to the car for a quick fast charge. HLG guys maybe be off on the edge of the field looking at how to get their plane out of a tree. When we show up at a 'sailplane' site, we all know that the only way you turn on a TX is IF you have the pin. Its why we use clothes pins, they cost nothing, and only need a majic marker to replace the one I, er I mean, someone drove off with. The only times I have had planes shot down was with the 'card' system. How's this one for confusing? The club had a Freq board in which the system was to 'put YOUR pin on the freq to 'block' it. Course someone walked up and saw that the pin was there, hooked it on their Tx and went over to set up their plane. A plane went in and everyone was mad. The guy who took the pin (claimed the freq) did it the sailplaner's way. The other guy did it the way the club had it set up (power club, they decided to use pins instead of AMA cards cuz too many AMA cards were being left on the board). Sailplaner's take the pin and own the freq. You see this system used at Visalia and while you get guys roaming around on practice day yelling "Who's sitting on 36?!!!?", you don't see guys getting shot down, and pretty much all 50+ channels are used at most times. And that's all I have to say about that :-) Gordy RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Mother Ship...
I lost my big, self designed, EPP wing (6' span) a while back flying above Maryville Tennessee (BTW the last time I saw it, it was heading towards Georgia gaining altitude in very good trim with a dead rx battery so if anyone sees the white topped red bottomed thing say hi for me)... So anyway I came across an 84" span wing at flyingfoam.com that looks like it would be a good replacement. Anyone have any comments, good or bad, about this ship??? TIA for any replies Joe _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] www.atlantasoaring.org
The atlantasoaring web site is down for a few days. It is being worked on. A list of several contests in AL, TN, GA is here. http://www.cafes.net/herb/Contest.htm Jon RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] "SAILPLANER" Frequency Control Freq Board System
The LNSSG has an even simpler system. Their board has parallel pieces of wood with slots cut in them and mounted on a backboard. The parallel pieces are mounted so that an AMA card (or business card) can be bowed and inserted in the slots and over the proper channel number. Since they're bowed, the tension holds the cards in place. I don't know who thought this up but it works pretty slick, is very simple and has less chance of breakage than the clothes pins. THAT is the way Sailplaners should never do it. Why cuz the 'sailplaner norm' is this: Have the pin, have the channel. Systems used by power clubs are used by them for a reason. They fly different than sailplaners. When a power guy comes to the site, he puts his card (usually AMA) in the frequency slot, then sits down at the table and argues politics, prattles on about full size fighter planes or bombers, the past world wars and how much more expensive props and fuel is at the hobby shop than from tower. When some one decides they actually want to fly for a change, they walk up to the board to see if the slot is full, when they see it is they look at the name and yell out, "Hey Jerry, you gonna fly?" And Jerry yells out "Maybe later, go ahead!" Sailplaner's travel. To contests and other places, so the first thing that happens with the card system is that we end up leaving our AMA cards all over the place. Sailplaners don't stand on flight blocks, we tend to roam around, if nothing else we are out near the landing tape, or have walked over to the car for a quick fast charge. HLG guys maybe be off on the edge of the field looking at how to get their plane out of a tree. When we show up at a 'sailplane' site, we all know that the only way you turn on a TX is IF you have the pin. Its why we use clothes pins, they cost nothing, and only need a majic marker to replace the one I, er I mean, someone drove off with. The only times I have had planes shot down was with the 'card' system. How's this one for confusing? The club had a Freq board in which the system was to 'put YOUR pin on the freq to 'block' it. Course someone walked up and saw that the pin was there, hooked it on their Tx and went over to set up their plane. A plane went in and everyone was mad. The guy who took the pin (claimed the freq) did it the sailplaner's way. The other guy did it the way the club had it set up (power club, they decided to use pins instead of AMA cards cuz too many AMA cards were being left on the board). Sailplaner's take the pin and own the freq. You see this system used at Visalia and while you get guys roaming around on practice day yelling "Who's sitting on 36?!!!?", you don't see guys getting shot down, and pretty much all 50+ channels are used at most times. And that's all I have to say about that :-) Gordy
Re: [RCSE] www.atlantasoaring.org
Like yea dude... I got high today, ya know... It musta been them Denny wings that did it... You know us old hippie dudes will use any excuse to get high and a +15 wind hittin the old slope will generally get me off just fine, these days anyway!!! 8^) Wish I couldva joined you at Normandy, the conditions today did put the thought of blowing off work and heading that way into my little midget mind but for some reason the boss just don't understand the attraction to "toy planes"... c-ya Joe Original Message Follows From: "Brian & Iva Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RCSE] www.atlantasoaring.org Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 22:34:59 + Mucho grass?? You mean like mary jo wana?/ or grass-ious..?? I was at the Normandy dam yesterday and today..Man was it rockin' today...You could fly high abnd way out in front further than I have ever seen before. The guy at Atlanta in charge of the web page told nme it will be up soon..It needed some last minute attentionBrian >From: "Joe G" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: [RCSE] www.atlantasoaring.org >Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 16:28:32 -0600 > >I have been checking out this site for a couple of weeks in hopes of being >able to register for the mid-south contest in June. When I tried to go to >the site just now (and I tried a couple of different links including the >one >from LSF) it bounces me to a search44.com page with links to weight loss >stuff. Anyone know what's up with that??? >Also if anyone knows when the mid-south registration will start please let >me know. > >And if anyone has a or know of a listing of contests and dates for the >southeast/midwest I would appreciate any info... > >Mucho Grass... > >Jose > > > >_ >Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > >RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and >"unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Items For Sail
Kevlar fuse is spoken for. The Rx, Neon fuse, Anthem and Omega are available. gv RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] RE: Looking for Greg Stewart
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Tom! Greg -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Looking for Greg Stewart Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I'm looking for an up to date e-mail address for Greg Stewart. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Tom RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] www.atlantasoaring.org
I have been checking out this site for a couple of weeks in hopes of being able to register for the mid-south contest in June. When I tried to go to the site just now (and I tried a couple of different links including the one from LSF) it bounces me to a search44.com page with links to weight loss stuff. Anyone know what's up with that??? Also if anyone knows when the mid-south registration will start please let me know. And if anyone has a or know of a listing of contests and dates for the southeast/midwest I would appreciate any info... Mucho Grass... Jose _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Frequency Control / safety
Matthew Orme wrote: > Sure you can. If I am flying on a frequency, I have no duty, legal or > otherwise, to give you a turn. Your option, is to go away, or change > frequencies. the politeness police can come talk to me, but neither > the FCC, or the police give a rats a**. No laws are broken. As > secondary users, you have to accept ALL forms of interference, > including other legal users. Wow Matthew Donn't think I'll be flying in or around Westlake Village, CA from now on. Don't want to get into a freq fight with ya. Bob Pope Laguna Hills, CA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] ANSWER Re:Linkages
In a message dated 1/31/02 8:51:20 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: One problem is I only have about 2 inches from servo arm to control horn so I need something compact. A couple of quick "bones". Why don't typical zbend pliers make a bend that is wide enough to fit conventional servo arms like JR and how come holes on them are always undersized? Trying to bend my own has usually left me with stressed or broken wire. Yep I read the RCSD article so I know the answer :-) First 'proper' geometry Servos should be even with the wing, not sunk in below the level of the skin. The link at the servo arm should be as close to the screw as you can get away with. Any gear lash is accentuated the further away from the screw you hook up your linkage and REDUCE the servo's ability to micro recenter, also REDUCE the servo's torque. ALWAYS use your Tx's travel adjust for more travel, only then move up a hole on the servo arm. 99% of the time, the second hole from the screw will be plenty of travel for 90 degree flap. On the surface horn: Use the 4th hole away from the surface. About double the height of the servo connection. This set up will give you those rock solid control surfaces you never seem to have but always blame on the servo gears. By connecting this way, gear lash is cut in half and the servo's leverage is increased. So Short at the servo long at the surface, and use the TX's abilities for more travel. On Z bends, they are great for power guys and 'gliders' but stink on sailplanes. Sort of like a George Carlin joke.. military inteligence, digital servos and Z bends. So what do you do when there isn't room for clevi? Like when you have the servos embeded in the Vtails. You bend a 90 on each end... and hope the linkages don't fall out.. :-) Nope you get some of those little pop on plastic or spring metal washers used on the bottom of those pushrod 'barrels' with the locking screw in the top. Those washer just push on to 1/16" wire. And they stay tight against the servo arm and surface horn so no push pull slop. You can get those washers by themselves at the hobby shop, or Hobby Lobby. Gordy
Re: [RCSE] Frequency Control / safety
> The illegal act is when you intentionally destroy property or cause harm >by operating your equipment. Knowingly doing it, is way different than negligently doing it. If I just fly on a frequency, there is no "intent to cause damage" (negligence maybe, but not criminal). if you tell me that you are on a frequency, I have every right to say "so, am I. If you fly, you fly your plane at your own risk. How much damage can it do? Negligence is proportionate. I fly my plane at my own risk. Once you are aware that I fly on a frequency, the onus is on YOU to prevent damage, not me. >Basiclly you >cannot tell someone else to go home as you were "there first" and on "your >freq". They have every right to operate as you do. Sure you can. If I am flying on a frequency, I have no duty, legal or otherwise, to give you a turn. Your option, is to go away, or change frequencies. the politeness police can come talk to me, but neither the FCC, or the police give a rats a**. No laws are broken. As secondary users, you have to accept ALL forms of interference, including other legal users. > The most problematic situation is the "rogue" flier. This includes >people flying HL in the backyard, IMAC at their local school, or even the >famous park flier. If i live across from a club field, and fly my parkflier in my front yard, all i have to do is to tell the club that i use XX frequency, and then they have the duty to see that none of their planes cause damage. the problem, is that if i am flying my park flyer a hundred feet from my your radio a block away won't affect my plane, but my radio will affect yours, because you fly at a greater distance. Once you put a plane into the air, knowing that there is a high probability of interference, you are negligent. Plaintiff "were you aware that the gentleman a block away flies a plane on the same frequency as you?" Defendant "yes" Plaintiff "but you decided to fly anyway" Defendant "yes' at this point, you have admitted liability. get out the checkbook. you might be able to pin some on the guy with the park flier, but nothing will get you off (which is the point). to pin any on the parkflier, you would have to be able to prove that he caused the "shoot down", which would be really difficult to do. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Frequency Control Bozo Style
Hey Gordy, Didn't I hear that turning on your tranny and listening was one of your suggestions for finding out if anyone was on your channel at a SUN fun fly in Nashville about 4 years ago or am I getting you confused with someone else I think it was Emerson Ford who told the story. Maybe you said receiver and he heard transmitter??? Anyway, on another direction... What's wrong with this picture... Date: January 31, 2002 Location: Nashville Tennessee Wind: SSW 16 gusts to 25 Activity: Slope Flying Attire: Short sleeved shirt Temp: 73 degrees Fer sure not complaining but it brings to mind a book written by that fountain of wisdom AlGore, damn could he have been right about that global warming thing??? Nah, forecast high for tomorrow is 40 degrees... Hoping all you southeast thumbs got to partake today... Joe Original Message Follows From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [RCSE] Frequency Control Bozo Style Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 12:13:56 -0700 In the endless persuit of more fun per quanta of energy... Bozo presents: The Bozo frequency control board with built in thrill monitor and score recorder. It's really quite simple, you just come to the field/slope and turn on your tranny. Then comes the thrill part. It to, is simple...you just listen... if there are no shrieks, no problem, the frequency in question is clear. If, however, you here shouts... "I aint got it" or... "oh shit" or... "is someone on MY channel"..etc etc...This is the thrill part. At least for me. There are variations on this if you use your on/off swicth in a fun and creative manner...it can produce a series of fine staccato or a memorable adaigos. And then, the coup de grase...a tranny with a tuneable RF module. It IS possible to work the whole crowed one at a time for various effects. The portable tape recorder is certainly required for late evening listening and review. There you go guys... enjoy. Your Friend Bozo... comming to a field near you. P.S. Further advice...try to be somewhat discreet while carrying around a transmitter with a tape recorder strapped to the bottom of it. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [RCSE] Frequency Control / safety
that article demanded a reply - I sent a polite letter to the writer, asking that he amend his story to talk about the danger of a shoot down... why a parkflier is not really a toy... it would be nice to see the AMA put out some literature on this in the magazines, something I see where these park fliers are getting warning stickers, but that seems sort of wimpy just my thoughts. Brent
Re: [RCSE] Frequency Control / safety
Matthew, It is not illegal to use a transmitter to fly your plane. There is no restriction other than local ordinances that prevent you from flying and operating your transmitter. Does not matter where you fly, from a club field to a local park. As long as you are using legal channels you are allowed. The illegal act is when you intentionally destroy property or cause harm by operating your equipment. For example, if you knowingly shoot someone down in order to destroy their plane. A well known example of this occured in California with some ginat scale racing. The offender (sitting in his car) was caught. Anyway, as a user of the equipment you are responsible for its proper use. If while at your local slope your freq is used you cannot turn on to "clear your channel"! Nor can you operate your equipment knowingly to prevent someone else from operating theirs. Basiclly you cannot tell someone else to go home as you were "there first" and on "your freq". They have every right to operate as you do. The most problematic situation is the "rogue" flier. This includes people flying HL in the backyard, IMAC at their local school, or even the famous park flier. If they have no knowledge of a freq conflict with another person then they are not commiting a crime as they are not intentionally causing damage or injury directly. Though during a cival trial they could be found responsible for any damage caused by their actions even though legally they did not comit a crime. Jason Werner - Original Message - From: "Matthew Orme" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 3:19 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Frequency Control / safety > At 08:51 PM 1/30/02, Simon Van Leeuwen wrote: > >Those, who through persistant ignorance, or blantant disregard for the > >consequences (those chaps who tell you where to go - and how to get > >there for example) should be made aware that it is a criminal offence > >punishable with jail terms if they persist. > > > totally wrong. Show me the law. you can't. > > > Matthew Orme > Aveox Electric Flight Systems Inc. http://www.aveox.com > 31324 Via Colinas, #104 Westlake Village, Ca 91362 > (818) 597-8915 x 102 Fax:(818)597-0617 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > "Mr. Town, A toy airplane, is a thing you wind up with a key, and it rolls > along the floor" > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Krylon Paint
DON'T use Rustolium!! It stays sticky and seems to never dry. Go to Walmart. They have a much better selection of Krylon than Lowes anyway. T Bill & Rose Haymaker wrote: > I went into Lowes tonight to get a couple of cans of Krylon. > > Lowes no longer carries Krylon they only carry Rustolium now. Anyone use > Rustolium for painting mylars? Any difference? > > Bill > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and >"unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- T&G http://adesigner.com/invention 32 Mount View Dr. Afton, VA 22920 540 943-3356 Fax 540 943-4178 Member BBB (Better Business Bureau) AAM (American Association of Museums) VAM (Virginia Association of Museums) BRIC (Blue Ridge Inventors' Club) AMA (Academy of Model Aeronautics) RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
