Re: [RCSE] Buzz Avril

2003-09-18 Thread flyingdogtwo

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RE: [RCSE] 8103 Switch Parts - where?

2003-09-18 Thread Douglas, Brent
Hi Russ,
It's not the cheapest way to go, but I've found a couple switches for my JR
at Radio Shack.  They're really very vanilla switches, but I felt better
about having the broken one in my hand while I compared.  I replaced my 3
way and my crow switches over the last 2 seasons (need to get a cheap radio
for sloping, I guess).

If you know what you're looking for better than I did, you might want to try
Mouser.com or digikey.com.  Horizon will certainly repair for you, but they
may sell you parts directly, too.

Good luck,
Brent
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[RCSE] 8103 Switch Parts - where?

2003-09-18 Thread Russ Young
Does anyone know where I can get replacement switches for the 8103?
Thanks,

Russ Young
Bellevue, WA

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Re: [RCSE] We should start a new thread to bash

2003-09-18 Thread Tom Watson
I have a hunch there's a special kind of hell for
people like us...and it's run by frogs, toads and
rodents.

Tom


--- "Tom H. Nagel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>   - Original Message - 
>   From: Steve Gibson 
>   To: rc Soaring Exchange 
>   Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 3:13 PM
>   Subject: [RCSE] We should start a new thread to
> bash
> 
>   We dumped the hampster and parachute over the
> side of C-Deck, and slope lift took over.  The chute
> went up, not down, and began to drift north, across
> Woody Hayes Drive, gaining altitude.   Rodent
> Control scurried off in pursuit.   The chute kept
> gaining altitude, must have caught a thermal, and
> was last seen heading out over St. John's Arena.  We
> never did find the chute or the hamsternaut.

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[RCSE] Re: 3 planes for sale

2003-09-18 Thread Jon Stone



Khan is sold.  2 x/c planes still 
available
 
 


[RCSE] Sat. 9/20 NorCal F3F race reminder.

2003-09-18 Thread Dave Reese
This is just a reminder that we will be holding an F3F race this Saturday
(9/20) at the Davenport site. The weather forecast is still looking good for
Saturday with winds expected to be NW 15-20 knots. I decided to push the
start time from 11am to noon on Saturday. Keep your fingers crossed that the
N-NE flow doesn't start till Sunday.

Race date: Saturday, September 20.
Gate opens: 10am.
Start time: 12 noon.
Location: Davenport aka Big Creek.

Race starts at 12 noon. Please be on time. We should be finished by 6pm or
so.

For insurance reasons the only requirement is that you are a current AMA
member. Don't forget to bring your membership cards.  Go to this website and
click on membership servicies at the top of the page to join or to simply
find out more about the Academy of Model Aeronautics (AMA).
http://modelaircraft.org/templates/ama/


The gate will be unlocked around 10am and we would like everyone to park
inside of the gate and along the east side of the runway between  the hanger
and the gate. Please park completly off the runway. Sorry, camping is not
allowed. The closest store is 5 miles away so make sure to bring plenty of
food and water with you. Sometimes it can be pretty cold so make sure to
bring a hat, warm clothing, etc.

There is also quite a bit of iceplant in the pit area as well as the LZ.
This is a great plant for landing on but it will leave stains on your
clothing  that are very dificult if not impossible to remove, so dress
accordingly. I also reccomend you bring a rag and some water  to clean your
model(s) after landing. A tarp for setting your gear on is a good idea.
While there is quite a bit of poison oak at this site all the areas we will
be using should be relatively free of this nasty plant.

The Davenport site is located around 15 miles north of Santa
Cruz. E-mail me if you need more detailed directions. The F3F format allows
only one model on the race course at a time so there is NO risk of having a
mid-air. Newbies are most welcome and encouraged to join us. Any type of
glider will work, bring what you have and give it a try. We will team you up
with an experianced F3F pilot your first time out. There is no fee to enter.

BTW, this is a premiere slope site located right on the Pacific ocean. I
know some of you who lost interest in F3F due to the thermal lottery of Los
Banos.  Assuming we get some ripping wind, the thermal influence/advantage
at this site should be nonexistent.

Please forward this message to group lists or individuals if you think
there may be some interest. Thank you.

Please contact me if you have any questions.

Cya there!

Dave Reese
Santa Cruz, CA

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[RCSE] Models for sale

2003-09-18 Thread LJolly


I am going to take this opportunity to sell some models that would do better if they were in someone else's Hangar, and would get flown more.
 Tragi 705X this model is new in Box condition from F3X features superb workmanship with MH32, ballast system, and mfg supplied wire harness. The model is Red white and Blue. from F3X $1350.00 this one is $1150.00 plus shipping
 
My trusty Artemis KC, this is an excellent model that I flew at 2 world championships. The model has never been damaged but does have a few dents in the upper surfaces. Model is ready to fly with 6-MCV2 digital servos, ready for your RX. $850.00
My Artemis Xtra light 57 ounce ready to fly toy. Flies like a handlaunch.
This model is also Red white and Blue and is ready to fly with 6-McV2 Digital servos. $800.00
Pike Superior Vtail increased Dihedral Joiners Red White and Blue 4-Jr368"s in the wing HTC 85MG's in the fuse. This model has a repair in the main panel from a collision at the WC. Craig Greening flew it at Denver model is ready to fly $900.00
NYX F3J D Tube model is Yellow on top Blue on Bottom Red tips. No Damage 6-JR 368's excellent model $1000.00
If you are interested in any of these models let me know I can bring them to Visalia.
Thanks Larry Jolly


Re: [RCSE] We should start a new thread to bash

2003-09-18 Thread renselange


Jeez guys, is this really the kind of experimentation we want be known for?
 
Rense Lange-Original Message-From: "Tom H. Nagel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: Sep 18, 2003 10:56 AMTo: Steve Gibson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, rc Soaring Exchange <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: Re: [RCSE] We should start a new thread to bash


 

- Original Message - 
From: Steve Gibson 
To: rc Soaring Exchange 
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 3:13 PM
Subject: [RCSE] We should start a new thread to bash

Anybody ever tied a parachute to a small animal then dropped it out of an R/C plane?
 
If so, were the results successful ?
SJG
 
Many moons ago when I was an undergrad at Ohio State and living in the Stadium Scholarship Dorm, one of the guys had a pet python, and kept hamsters to feed it.
 
    We rigged up a parachute and a single serving cereal box to hold the rodent, and prepared to launch the thing off C-Deck, some 93 feet above the west side parking lot.  Now, the prevailing fall winds come from the west, and this was long before I knew anything about sailplanes or slope lift.
 
    We got some old clunky walkie talkies to coordinate the launch.  We were thinking NASA and moon launches.   Those of us on C-Deck were Rodent Launch and the guys in the parking lot were Rodent Control.    
 
    We dumped the hampster and parachute over the side of C-Deck, and slope lift took over.  The chute went up, not down, and began to drift north, across Woody Hayes Drive, gaining altitude.   Rodent Control scurried off in pursuit.   The chute kept gaining altitude, must have caught a thermal, and was last seen heading out over St. John's Arena.  We never did find the chute or the hamsternaut.
 
    OK, it is not a Chuck Anderson story, but it's all I got.
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Re: [RCSE] New Thread

2003-09-18 Thread Raschow
In a message dated 9/17/03 11:29:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
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<< t's time for the chicken cannon   :-) >>

How about a CAT-a-PULT!  (with credit to the Wizard of Id)  Good Lift!
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RE: [RCSE] I Hate to Drive

2003-09-18 Thread Bill Swingle


Great gentlemen. Now you're turning the best pilot we've got in this 
country into a bus driver. Geez, no respect. Man, I bet you won't even have 
exact change either.  ;-)

Bill Swingle
Janesville, CA
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[RCSE] need C.G. advice for airquest zuni

2003-09-18 Thread kjkavaney


Anyone out there know the CG for a airquest zuni wingeron??
any input welcomed.
kevin kavaney
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Re: [RCSE] We should start a new thread to bash

2003-09-18 Thread Tom H. Nagel



 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Steve Gibson 
  To: rc Soaring Exchange 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 3:13 
  PM
  Subject: [RCSE] We should start a new 
  thread to bash
  
  Anybody ever tied a parachute to a small animal 
  then dropped it out of an R/C plane?
   
  If so, were the results successful ?
  SJG
   
  Many moons ago when I was an undergrad at Ohio 
  State and living in the Stadium Scholarship Dorm, one of the guys had a pet 
  python, and kept hamsters to feed it.
   
      We rigged up a parachute and a single 
  serving cereal box to hold the rodent, and prepared to launch the thing off 
  C-Deck, some 93 feet above the west side parking lot.  Now, the 
  prevailing fall winds come from the west, and this was long before I knew 
  anything about sailplanes or slope lift.
   
      We got some old clunky walkie talkies 
  to coordinate the launch.  We were thinking NASA and moon 
  launches.   Those of us on C-Deck were Rodent Launch and the guys in 
  the parking lot were Rodent Control.    
   
      We dumped the hampster and parachute 
  over the side of C-Deck, and slope lift took over.  The chute went up, 
  not down, and began to drift north, across Woody Hayes Drive, gaining 
  altitude.   Rodent Control scurried off in pursuit.   The 
  chute kept gaining altitude, must have caught a thermal, and was last seen 
  heading out over St. John's Arena.  We never did find the chute or the 
  hamsternaut.
   
      OK, it is not a Chuck Anderson story, 
  but it's all I got.


[RCSE] Model mags, what's wrong, and maybe how to improve them?

2003-09-18 Thread Joshua
> No one has mentioned the German model magazines, such as Aufind.  My
> German is poor but these magazines are a real incentive to improve it.

My favorite model mag is RCM, out of England. Beautiful pictures,
instructive articles, and plans. Not enough sailplanes, but I'm learning
to accept that.

The first RC glider I built, the Bug, came from its pages.

> They always have lots of data and informative photos and figures which
>  are language-independent.  There are reviews of state-of-the-art
> commercial products as well as stories about the projects of some very
>  inventive modellers, in a place where RC Modelling is a highly
> respected
>  pursuit. I also enjoy reading the many small ads for unique aircraft
> and  other products which are made by craftsmen, in cottage
> industries, and  which are not widely marketed outside of magazine ads
> and
> word-of-mouth.

That sounds fantastic. I wish it was in English. Babelfish makes it into
some sort of Schwartzneggerian joke. It's like having Conan out at the
slope.

> This thread may have more to do with the frustration of
> some (most?) old-timers with the sad fact that the
> hobby of the designer/builder and the sport of piloting
> seem to be getting farther and farther apart.

I agree. I like to build things and then stand, agog, as they fly. ("It
FLIES?") I'm not a sportsman. I don't like to compete very much, but boy,
do I like to make things as beautiful as I can.

But I know that's not for everyone. I consider the sportsman flyers to
be a separate species from me, and I can enjoy their speed and elegant
flight while sharing the slope.

> Until
> very recently if you wanted to fly model airplanes you
> *had* to build your own.  All sports have their roots
> in some other more basic activity that involved making
> the equipment.  It's the nature of industrial society
> that any demand for material things will eventually be
> met by producers and sportsmen (consumers) will make
> some of them rich.

Geez, people are getting rich making model planes? Who? No, I think that
there are builders who are sharing with their friends and trying to
cover the costs of being crafstmen.

I can't build that good a plane yet, but if I were to charge what I
charge as a designer for one of my planes, no one could afford one. I'm
not even sure *I* can. So my hats off to those of you who can do it and
not lose money out the nose, and more hats off to those of you who lose
money out the nose and still love it.

> Archery started simply as a way to put food on the
> table.  The stone age hunters spent evenings flaking
> arrowheads and fleching shafts.  Now it's a sport
> that's catered to by a huge  industry and the sportsman
>  may not even see a wild animal more than once a year,
> if even then.

And I would argue that knapped flint and fire-hardened wood make a
stunningly beautiful arrow. Elegant, refined, and deadly effective. It
would sure be a different experience to hunt that way.

> Model aviation started with Sir George Cayley's first
> crude glider in 1804.  About 60 years later Alphonse
> Penaud started using rubber bands to power his models
> and in 1871 his "planophore" flew 131 feet.  These, and
> many more, were  scientific instruments *not* toys yet
> you can walk into any hobby shop and buy a mass
> produced *toy* that's not much more sophisticated than
> the original planophore.  

There are planophores you can get as birthday cards, shaped like
butterflies. They cost pennies.

> Is this pandering to an illiterate bourgeoisie?  No,
> it's just the inevitable result of industrialization.

Well, in less provocative terms, you're selling to a market, rather than
sharing knowledge with friends. There's a difference between quantum
mechanics and buying a microwave, after all.

> A once vital activity gets sorted out into a hobby
> (production) and a sport (consumption).

I'm not sure that sport is mere consumption. I *would* say that the
outcome of the craft of building is consumed as the medium for the craft
of the sportsman.

> Most of the model aviation magazines have chosen to
> service the sportsmen and that's okay but it leaves
> guys like me out in the cold.  There's probably just
> not as much money in catering to hobbyists because it
> requires a more technically sophisticated editorial
> staff and there's more time involved in writing a
> technical article than a product review with some
> glossy pictures.

Those glossy pictures cost a lot, but they sell a lot, too. RCSD is so
those of us who are engineers or artists can share our stuff, too.

> I for one would rather see one good
> isometric and an orthographic projection than five full
> color photos but that's just me.

Ah, here we get to the crux of the issue: information density. A
three-view or isometric is designed to present the maximum amount of
information with minimum noise. Personally, I'd like to see plans
alongside every photo in a mag. That i

Re: [RCSE] German Model Mags - was: "Illiterate generation?" / Model Magazines

2003-09-18 Thread Jimmy Andrews
Also see:
http://www.vth.de/Modellbau/DEFAULT.HTM
http://www.modellsport.de/
Jimmy



Dieter @ ShredAir wrote:


Anyone got an links to subscribing to these German mags ??


Aufwind is at http://www.aufwind-magazin.de  --  E-mail them to 
subscribe, they do speak English, and they will process your credit card.

One refreshing thing about this and other German magazines is the fact 
that editors and vendors/advertisers do a whole lot less mutual 
back-scratching than is blatant in some magazines here. This means, you 
actually can get some meaningful product reviews...

Dieter Mahlein
http://shredair.com
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Re: [RCSE] German Model Mags - was: "Illiterate generation?" / Model Magazines

2003-09-18 Thread Chris Veitch
Thanks for the link, there are some articles on-line, for everyone's info I
use babelfish to translate pages on line its not perfect but does very well
the link is as below.

http://babelfish.altavista.com/

Regards

Chris

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From: "Dieter @ ShredAir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 4:22 AM
Subject: Re: [RCSE] German Model Mags - was: "Illiterate generation?" /
Model Magazines


>
> >Anyone got an links to subscribing to these German mags ??
>
> Aufwind is at http://www.aufwind-magazin.de  --  E-mail them to
> subscribe, they do speak English, and they will process your credit
> card.
>
> One refreshing thing about this and other German magazines is the
> fact that editors and vendors/advertisers do a whole lot less mutual
> back-scratching than is blatant in some magazines here. This means,
> you actually can get some meaningful product reviews...
>
> Dieter Mahlein
> http://shredair.com
>
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