[RCSE] Re: Soaring V1 #10991

2008-03-26 Thread MSu1049321

In a message dated 3/26/08 12:52:00 AM, Soaring@airage.com writes:


 Re: [RCSE] A possible sport tube alternative
 Yes, they go up to 12 inches wide at the markertek site, then again, as you 
go up in size you begin to get into the same price range as the Sport Tube but 
without the handy travel discount for Sporting goods, though I think they also 
have a discount for video gear, which tripod/light stand carriers like this 
are.   The Sport Tube works for a lot of people and can be handy that it 
collapses down so far... until the day it does that with your plane inside it, 
for 
whatever reason. I've read plenty of such horror stories right here.

No one solution is perfect for all. I use $7 cardboard concrete tube forms 
for some of my plane carriers/storage. But then again I don't take Unlimited 
ships around the country by airplane. I drive no more than 30 minutes and 
usually 
less to get to my flying sites,such as they are, and my main need is sturdy 
economy. Not stylishness or compactness beyond what fits somewhere into a 
4-door sedan. I miss my SAAB 900 though: with the back seat down, I could haul 
just 
about anything in it.

Mark S.







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Re: [RCSE] Looking for Carbon plate?

2008-03-26 Thread Jerry Leach

How about this place:  Dragonplate http://dragonplate.com
I haven't bought plate from them but have gotten some tubes which were nice.

Jerry

Jimmy wrote:
I havent found a shop in the US that sells thicker panels, but RG has 
them.  Shop: http://www.r-g.de/en/


Link to page with Carbon Panels:

http://shop.ezentrum.de/2501444/OQ2JXpoD7TWdDt0GvWTsUaOyw1GeJj/4DCGI/ezshop?action=wgruppenstartwarengruppenlist=4124Suchid=0manufacturer=Suchstartpos=1PageType=warengruppen#4124 




Tom Koszuta wrote:
My usual place to get CF strips for spars is Aerospace Composite 
Products

http://www.acp-composites.com/acp-gp.htm
Good prices excellent service.
 
But The Composite Store has more on the thinner side

http://www.cstsales.com/carbon_plate.html
I've kept the link, but have not ever ordered from them.
 
 
 
Tom Koszuta

Western New York Sailplane and Electric Flyers
Buffalo, NY
 
 
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*From:* Craig Allen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
So I'm looking for some pre-made Carbon sheet  1/8 or 3/16 thick 2
to 3 inches wide and maybe 1 ft long to cut  new control horns and
bell-cranks out of. So if you know of a supplier I would greatly
appreciate it :-)
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[RCSE] OK , I am Confused !!

2008-03-26 Thread Jack Strother
Re: [RCSE] A possible sport tube alternative

As far as I am concerned there is no alternative for the Sports  Tube, 
especially if you use the machined side stops, to protect tour model length.

Are we pissing and moaning aboutr replacements because Soaring oriented vendors 
are selling them?
Does anyone really know what these things cost versus what they are being sold 
for?
I would venture to say with condifence that these vendors offer the Sports Tube 
as a convienence to our hobby, as there is no margin to speak of...

I too Travel a bunch, and try to take my model. I do not use the airlines so 
much, I use Fed Ex...
cost me 80 bucks one way, to ship to the SWC.
I did not have to worry bout the airlines losing it ,or the TSA turning my TX 
on and them closing the tube back up..

If you are too cheap to deal with the sports tube, only because of the cost, 
then you get what you pay for ...live with it..

BTW, I still have a set of Bostic sailplane boxes, and 1 Ship Miller 
fiberglass airplane box
These guys quit making these boxes cause no one would buy them

  A possible sport tube alternative'


Long live the Sports Tube

My $.02 worth 
CJ


--
Jack Strother   
Granger, IN 

LSF 2948
LSF Level V  #117
LSF Official 1996 - 2004
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 I checked out the links and while I saw the sizes, I didn't see the part  
 where they collapse down to fit in a rental car trunk.  
 
 Can you  point me to that part of the website?
  
 You see I travel a lot with my sailplanes and could use a case with wheels,  
 and handles, big enough to fit two unlimited ships, my charger, all the 
 pieces 
  and the steel pole that make up my Plane Perch...and fits the no charge  
 exception for sporting goods at a glance.
  
 Oh yeah it has to protect my planes when the case makes it part way up the  
 conveyor to the airliner's luggage hold, the falls off to the ground about 
 10'  
 or so.
  
 Thanks
 Gordy
  
  
 In a message dated 3/26/2008 12:29:22 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Do these come in any sizes larger than 10 diameter.  Most wings are  approx 
 10 chord, so something larger would be required.
 
 
 Here are some that will work if you  have 3 panel wings..
 max length 46 to 50
  
 _http://www.exploreproducts.com/skbgolfclubcase4913.htm_ 
 (http://www.exploreproducts.com/skbgolfclubcase4913.htm) 
  
 _http://www.amazon.com/SKB-2SKB-4812WS-Standard-Golf-Travel/dp/B0007VNZDG_ 
 (http://www.amazon.com/SKB-2SKB-4812WS-Standard-Golf-Travel/dp/B0007VNZDG) 
  
 _http://www.golfhq.com/catalog/hardcasetomatotravelcover-p-166.html_ 
 (http://www.golfhq.com/catalog/hardcasetomatotravelcover-p-166.html) 
  
 _http://www.golfhq.com/catalog/golfguardtravelcover-p-1705.html_ 
 (http://www.golfhq.com/catalog/golfguardtravelcover-p-1705.html) 
  
  
 Longer cases: (custom made  too)
  
 _http://www.keyboardcases.com/_ (http://www.keyboardcases.com/) 
  
 _http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Gator-88-Key-Slimline-ATA-Keyboard-Cas
 e?sku=544763src=3WFRWXXZYXSEM=0CAWELAID=26046402_ 
 (http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Gator-88-Key-Slimline-ATA-Keyboard-Case?
 sku=544763src=3WFRWXX
 ZYXSEM=0CAWELAID=26046402) 
  
  
 
 
 
 
 
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I checked out the links and while I saw the sizes, I didn't see the part 
where they collapse down to fit in a rental car trunk. Can you 
point me to that part of the website?

You see I travel a lot with my sailplanes and could use a case with wheels, 
and handles, big enough to fit two unlimited ships, my charger, all the pieces 
and the steel pole that make up my Plane Perch...and fits the no charge 
exception for sporting goods at a glance.

Oh yeah it has to protect my planes when the case makes it part way up the 
conveyor to the airliner's luggage hold, the falls off to the ground about 10' 
or so.

Thanks
Gordy


In a message dated 3/26/2008 12:29:22 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Do these come in any sizes larger than 10" diameter. Most wings are 
  approx 10" chord, so something larger would be required.
  Here are some that will work if you 
  have 3 panel wings..
  max length 46" to 50"
  
  http://www.exploreproducts.com/skbgolfclubcase4913.htm
  
  http://www.amazon.com/SKB-2SKB-4812WS-Standard-Golf-Travel/dp/B0007VNZDG
  
  http://www.golfhq.com/catalog/hardcasetomatotravelcover-p-166.html
  
  http://www.golfhq.com/catalog/golfguardtravelcover-p-1705.html
  
  
  Longer cases: (custom made 
  too)
  
  http://www.keyboardcases.com/
  
  http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Gator-88-Key-Slimline-ATA-Keyboard-Case?sku=544763src="">
  
  Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home.
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[RCSE] Question regarding 2.4GHz..Answer :-)

2008-03-26 Thread Ed Anderson
I have used the Hobbico locator.  It works as you describe and will likely work
with 2.4 GHz but it is so annoying to have to move the sticks just to keep the
alarm from sounding.  If they had a 10 minute window instead of a 1 minute
window it would be ideal.

Best regards,
Ed Anderson
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From: Doug McLaren [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Soaring@airage.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 8:21 AM
Subject: Re: [RCSE] Question regarding 2.4GHz..Answer :-)


On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 09:04:37AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

...

This will work fine with PPM, PCM or 2.4 GHz stuff, and you won't have
to do any special programming to make it work --

   http://www.hobbico.com/radioaccys/hcap0335.html

The lost plane alarm will be activated if the servo channel it's on
stops getting pulses, which is what works with normal PPM stuff and
doesn't work with PCM or 2.4 GHz gear.  However, the transmiter
inactivity signal (which sounds the same as the lost plane alarm) will
still work even with PCM or 2.4 GHz -- if you stop moving the sticks
(or if you go into and stay in failsafe), that channel will be idle
(not changing, though it may still be getting servo pulses), and once
it's been idle for a minute, the alarm start beeping as if your plane
was lost.

And yes, I've tried it.

The downside is that your plane will get upset and start beeping if
you leave it turned on and idle for a few minutes -- like when you put
it down between flights.  Most annoying.  I wish they'd made the
timeout five minutes instead.

-- 
Doug McLaren, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You fight until hell freezes over. Then you fight on the ice.
 --Richard Russell


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[RCSE]

2008-03-26 Thread TDL
Anyone have in stock the Futaba 2.4G 8ch FASST RX in stock or an extra they
are willing to part with? I am looking for a couple. Thanks.

Tuan

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[RCSE] Flap flutter and servos for Pike Perfect Flaps

2008-03-26 Thread BCLERX
If you're flying a 80 series with socks, you're probably used to windy 
weather (and launching on an F3B winch with mono?).

Go with 3421's on the flaps and stab, 368's on the ail and rud.   A rib 
shaped piece of vertical grained balsa (1/8 inch) on either side of the servo 
to 
tie the top and bottom skins together will keep the servo from flexing the 
skins. I didn't do this, but I've had no flutter problems.

My Perfects had all 368's with a 3421 on the stab. No problems. My next 
planes will have 3421's on the stab and flaps. Not that I've ever had a problem 
with the 368's, but it's more of a warm fuzzy and that I really like the 
3421's. 
They only weigh slightly more than the 368's, but they're beefier and of real 
nice quality.   If you're gonna fly a $2K plane, spring for good servos.

Never had the need to replace any servo, but I still use the Greening mounts 
in case I need to do so quickly between rounds.

Ben Clerx





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