[RCSE] So long RCSE
I haven't been on as long as some others but I too have enjoyed the banter and soaring fellowship for the last decade. Much thanks to Mike, Lex and the other admins who have made that service so enjoyable! I have a server and can install mailman, a piece of software that performs the 'listserve' function. Let me know if anyone is interested, Kevin RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] YA-RCSE
Yet another RCSE. Having enjoyed RCSE for a long time, I too decided to put an alternative up to the group. It is nearly identical to the original in format and function. It is just a plain old e-mail list with an optional digest, and it archives the traffic as well. It won't ever have any advertising (except for the wait-and-wail's from Gordy and others) and it isn't out there collecting data on you (big brother). A web based sign up page is here: http://www.ts3.org/mailman/listinfo/soaring You can also sign up the old way ( I think it even speaks html e-mail for sign up) by sending a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] take care, Kevin RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] RIP RCSE
Although I haven't flown competitively for 7 years, I've always subscribed to RCSE to find out about new technologies, designs, etc.It's also cool to see what friends are doing via RCSE. I've subscribed to RCSE for most of the years of its existence.Through RCSE I learned how to how to build 'em, how to fly 'em how to crash 'em and how to repair 'em. (With many kudos to local clubmembers and friends of course). I learned how to compete with dignity. I have learned through RCSE and through generous input from ALL of you. I learned that good sense and sincere communication works better than a flamethrower. I guess what I'm saying is it'll be missed. Hopefully, one or more of you ambitious young guys will fill the void- after all, there are just sometimes that nothing works better than the flamethrower... hehe Thanks Mike for a great run. Kevin Andersen Palm Springs, CA (where it is too freakin' hot or windy to fly)
Re: [RCSE] US Nationals Championship Flight
Great story Skip. Thanks for sharing. Kevin Andersen - Original Message - From: Skip Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 1:48 PM Subject: [RCSE] US Nationals Championship Flight - Original Message - From: Skip Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Soaring@airage.com Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 9:40 AM Subject: Championship flight at the Nationals I know there are many flights that allow pilots to achieve top ten finish at the US Nationals, but one flight in particular should not go unnoticed. Personally I was bouncing around in the upper group after, hitting a very poor landing earlier in the day, knowing my fate was sealed. I was calling air for Cody in the previous flight group, my back to the winch launch line, when I heard a very high speed flutter by some competitor on launch in the next group. I turned, expecting to see a model that I had seen flutter numerous times, and much to my surprise...it was a Pike Perfect...and Peter Goldsmith was piloting. I said to Cody I think he just fluttered an elevator...yep...I see flaps going in and out. And this was a National Championship flight, last round, and Peter was sniffing around a top spot. It's the last round thing which all competitors know all to well. The air was no gimme, with 30% of the flight times not being achieved. After Cody landed I said, I've got to watch this. This appears to be a REAL championship flight! Pilots in Peters group were not happy, many falling out, yet here he was and his PERFECT ...appearing to be guiding this object...barely in control...flaps going in, flaps going out...oddly circling..appering to have half flap in all the time...you know...no elevator, hunting, falling, rising...maybe 5%-10% control! No one on the ground knew what was really wrong he had actually blown out on the over zealous launch and was hitting a well timed thermal, the elevator servo, and BOTH aileron servos... yet I heard the beep, beep, beep of Peters digital trims being pushed to the max, trying to urge the PERFECT to do its job. So here was the PERFECT, coming up to 9 minutes...all other competitors in his group had fallen from the sky, and Goldsmith was inventing a new class...F.R.FLAP RUDDER! And getting his time! Then it appeared there was trouble as the model kind of started galloping around the sky below 100 feet, trying to set up for landing, the controlling became more difficult...that ground thing appearing in its future, spot landing, all coming into play. Flap rudder has its limitations! No he didn't get his landing, BUT he DID land within the field boundaries, overflying the slot by 25 seconds (10:25) and qualifying the flight. Amazingly, we later found out, had WON the group! Most others would have tried to land the injured bird, and probably crashed it, but Peter hung tough, literally a National Championship position on the line, his years of aerobatic training coming into to play. As our modern day computer mixing radios were not up to the task, it was in his thumbs, his mind, and his judgment that was getting the job done. Yes, I know Daryl had a wild one with a blown out stab flapping in the breeze at the Worlds, but at least there was some assemblance of order...all servos were working! This flight secured his 3rd place overall National finish, and will be a flight remembered by all who witnessed it for a long time. When we looked over the PERFECT on the ground, the culprit was a nylon geared elevator servo that had stripped from launch pressure...the elevator kinda flopping around, and then noticing that even the control horns on the aileron servos were broken and floppingYes this was a National Championship flight. Peter was giddy after the flight, also stunned and amazed at what had just occurred. We stood there dumbfounded, looking at his wounded PERFECT, basically agreeing this can't fly. He won 3rd overall...AMAZING!!! I just had a moment to reflect on this Championship flight! Well done Peter! Skip - Original Message - From: Skip Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Soaring@airage.com Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 9:40 AM Subject: Championship flight at the Nationals I know there are many flights that allow pilots to achieve top ten finish at the US Nationals, but one flight in particular should not go unnoticed. Personally I was bouncing around in the upper group after, hitting a very poor landing earlier in the day, knowing my fate was sealed. I was calling air for Cody in the previous flight group, my back to the winch launch line, when I heard a very high speed flutter by some competitor on launch in the next group. I turned, expecting to see a model that I had seen flutter numerous times, and much to my surprise...it was a Pike Perfect...and Peter Goldsmith was piloting. I said to Cody I think he just fluttered an elevator...yep...I see flaps going in and out. And this was a National Championship
Re: [RCSE] My Dad,... U'R Dad?
Craig, Very touching story. Thanks for sharing. Kevin Andersen - Original Message - From: Craig Allen To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 8:33 PM Subject: [RCSE] My Dad,... U'R Dad? I just wanted to share this with everyone... My Mother called me last week and told me she was worried about my Dad and his health... He's 85, Fought in the battle of Britten at age 17 and was a B-24 pilot once America joined the war... He has trouble breathing now because he was a 50 year smoker..Its touch and go with him... Never knowing if this is the day. So I took over to their house my latest Electric tow plane to put together A Stinger 120 ARF using a 5340AXIS and A123 batteries.. Thanks Brian Chan :-)))... He loved it... You never know with my Dad.. I was so worried he would think it was a piece of crap.. But it has made him so happy to be a part of helping me put it together... Its almost done and I can't wait to fly it for him So all of you with aging parents... All I can say is is try and make them happy and just maybe.. You will find happiness yourself and some wonderful memories too :-))) Craig .. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.7/1284 - Release Date: 2/17/2008 2:39 PM
Re: [RCSE] New thread--- what are you building this winter?
A vintage Airtronics Legend and maybe a 2meter from Art Hobby Kevin O'Dell On Jan 12, 2008, at 11:54 AM, Jimmy Prouty wrote: I'm building a new A-6 PSS bird and a road trip thermal/electric bird. A-6 is almost done, designing the wing for the thermal/ electric. Jimmy At 10:52 AM 1/12/2008, you wrote: I'm building a Genie LTS and an Allegro. What are you all building, creating, designing? RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to soaring- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Contest Format
Hi gang, I just gotta chime in here. I know Tim and have flown with him and the rest of the SLNT crew as well as Tulsoar back in the day..I appreciate what Tim has thrown out here for us to chew on..no one has said that anyone should use this format in ALL contests, but it might be interesting to try it as Dave Register says...it's occasionally not a bad idea to level the field a little, especially if there are newcomers in a club that might benefit from a contest where they just might not get hammered to last place because they couldn't make the precision times, or they can't afford more than an OLY for the time being.they may be practicing, but they may also have a job and a family that they choose to spend time with that limits that practice time..but they still enjoy this wonderful hobby.so once in awhile run a contest where their choices of practice level or aircraft doesn't necessarily doom them to the bottom of the pile...no one enjoys coming in last or in the back of the pack every time.but some folks may not have access to the hardware, time and even patience to get to the level of the really good fliers.and this scoring system looks like it has that potentialI'm not saying let them win for the sake of winning, but you would be suprised just how much better a person might feel if he places in the middle of the pack instead of the bottom.it might even entice him to practice more...after that, then hammer them back into oblivion.. flame on!! Later.. ( Tim, I may see you guys Sunday) Kevin O'Dell On Jan 10, 2008, at 10:31 AM, Joe Rodriguez wrote: Tim, I see and understand where you are going, and respectfully disagree. I fly model sailplanes to compete and so a contest to me is a test of skills among peers. Like Golfing I work at every aspect of flying to improve my game in order to get that edge on the less skilled, the less prepared and the less knowledgeable. So for me when it all comes together for a win or high place, the taste of victory is sweet although brief is very addictive. This is what keeps me going I can fun fly anytime!! I look forward to a true contest of skills. To level the playing field and to reward players for not being prepared, less skilled or less practiced will give them a false sense of success. They will wonder why they got there A%$ handed to them when they attend a real contest, and who fault is that? smokinjoe
[RCSE] Beat Gordy? Hell no one's ever beat me!
No one has ever beat me. But boy have I spent many years in this hobby beating myself. I once said to a fellow group of fliers that I can beat JW on any given day, and so can they. They all laughed. But, how many contests have you flown 3 near-perfect rounds and then screwed the pooch on the 4th? I've done it many times. Who beat me? I did. It's about being consistent. And the top fliers are just that. I've placed less than 1st in most contests, and placed 1st in a few. But I still went home feeling good. 'Cause I had a damn good time doing it- Flying I mean. Gordy's right. It boils down to having fun with friends doing something we love.
Re: [RCSE] Brain Fart or Challenge?
I think what Gordy is trying to point out in his own way (tongue firmly established in cheek) is that regulating line length or strength or whatever takes away from the individuality of different contests...some groups have the ability to use a very long distance to the turnaround (right Henry?) and others don't..some have gorilla winches and others don't..using what you have is part of what makes this hobby interesting..being able to adapt to a given situation is what separates the great pilots from the good pilots.I would be willing to bet Joe Wurts can adapt to just about any situation of launch equipment and aircraft type if he has to.It's like showing up at a contest with an Oly and having 15mph winds..what do you do...grab some ballast and be VERY light on the pedal (it can be done...). I for one am all for keeping the variety in the sport...fly what you got and launch with what's available.though you might ask a few intelligent questions first, like, is this a 6 volt winch with a 12 volt battery or what Just my $.05 worth (inflation don't ya know) Kevin O'Dell On Jan 4, 2008, at 12:23 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow Jack , You are really on to it with this shortening lines thing ! I sat around for quite a few minutes before I thought of something even dumber ...but I managed! :-) I'm thinking with us getting older and the cost of fuel to lug winches around, and if its really about pilot skill and thermal reading/working...lets just hand toss the damn things and call for 20min tasks. We'd be able to get in about 40 rounds per day so that would make contests that much more attractive to attend, and of course set up would be minimal, also no hassles with changing turnarounds for wind direction, and those mysterious bastards who you all seem to know are out there who take advantage of line breaks and pop offs, well 'they' will be out of luck with no lines to break and no pop offs. Setting up the models will be easier because there will be no need to agonize over tow hook placement, elevator comps or camber switch programming. Those of you who haven't figured out how to program your JR radios so that there's no need to flip a switch to make the throttle stick camber or landing lever in mid flight, again no worries, not needed any more. Dang it makes so much sense, so logical, can't figure out why you guys didn't think of this sooner! That new 150 SupraDurpraIcon will devour the soaring scene! I mean it will have to have a glide advantage and no worries about clogging up contests with broken line concerns. (and will provide fodder to RC Groups about it having an unfair advantage demanding that owners leave its tips off). 300'? I laugh! Lets show 'those' guys at contest that us real men want a true soaring eventlets get rid of winches all together! What do you think Chicago? You guys seem to have been sitting around thinking up good ideas :-) Shorten the lines and you can bet the line will get shorter. Gordy :-) In a message dated 1/4/2008 10:46:19 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I agree with you Jack, but I think the distance to the turnaround should be even shorter, maybe 300ft Buzz Averill On Jan 1, 2008, at 8:48 PM, schrederman wrote: Well I posted this under Best wishes for 2008... but not too many looked at it... So here goes :eek: For this year, I'd like to issue a challenge to the soaring community. For 30 years, we've been launching as high as possible, trying to stay aloft for 10 minutes, and coming down on a spot, carrying a skeg that many times arrests on the line rather than the ground. That gets old... in fact it got old a long time ago... My challenge is to standardize the American TD winch, including line strength, and to do away with landing skegs. I also think the turnaround should be no more than 600' from the launch point. Let's put some challenge back into this. Flame suit ON! Jack (Darth) Womack -- schrederman -- - - schrederman's Profile: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/member.php?u=13218 View this thread: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=794683 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to soaring- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to soaring- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL
Re: [RCSE] Brain Fart or Challenge?
Got news for ya-- Joe would still win. Gordy wrote: lets just hand toss the damn things and call for 20min tasks. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Soaring@airage.com Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 10:23 AM Subject: [RCSE] Brain Fart or Challenge? Wow Jack , You are really on to it with this shortening lines thing ! I sat around for quite a few minutes before I thought of something even dumber ...but I managed! :-) I'm thinking with us getting older and the cost of fuel to lug winches around, and if its really about pilot skill and thermal reading/working...lets just hand toss the damn things and call for 20min tasks. We'd be able to get in about 40 rounds per day so that would make contests that much more attractive to attend, and of course set up would be minimal, also no hassles with changing turnarounds for wind direction, and those mysterious bastards who you all seem to know are out there who take advantage of line breaks and pop offs, well 'they' will be out of luck with no lines to break and no pop offs. Setting up the models will be easier because there will be no need to agonize over tow hook placement, elevator comps or camber switch programming. Those of you who haven't figured out how to program your JR radios so that there's no need to flip a switch to make the throttle stick camber or landing lever in mid flight, again no worries, not needed any more. Dang it makes so much sense, so logical, can't figure out why you guys didn't think of this sooner! That new 150 SupraDurpraIcon will devour the soaring scene! I mean it will have to have a glide advantage and no worries about clogging up contests with broken line concerns. (and will provide fodder to RC Groups about it having an unfair advantage demanding that owners leave its tips off). 300'? I laugh! Lets show 'those' guys at contest that us real men want a true soaring eventlets get rid of winches all together! What do you think Chicago? You guys seem to have been sitting around thinking up good ideas :-) Shorten the lines and you can bet the line will get shorter. Gordy :-) In a message dated 1/4/2008 10:46:19 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I agree with you Jack, but I think the distance to the turnaround should be even shorter, maybe 300ft Buzz Averill On Jan 1, 2008, at 8:48 PM, schrederman wrote: Well I posted this under Best wishes for 2008... but not too many looked at it... So here goes :eek: For this year, I'd like to issue a challenge to the soaring community. For 30 years, we've been launching as high as possible, trying to stay aloft for 10 minutes, and coming down on a spot, carrying a skeg that many times arrests on the line rather than the ground. That gets old... in fact it got old a long time ago... My challenge is to standardize the American TD winch, including line strength, and to do away with landing skegs. I also think the turnaround should be no more than 600' from the launch point. Let's put some challenge back into this. Flame suit ON! Jack (Darth) Womack -- schrederman --- - schrederman's Profile: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/member.php?u=13218 View this thread: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=794683 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format -- Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1209 - Release Date: 1/4/2008 12:05 PM
Fwd: [RCSE] Jack Benny is 39 and 2.4 is 38? Thanks for the 'assurances and guesses!
Begin forwarded message: basically...the mixing systems shouldn't be any issue. The Futaba systems represent momentary narrow band emissions and as such will not interfere with the Direct Sequence system used by JR/ Spektrum.when you get 39 JR/Spektrum radios on at the same time, then number 40 will not be able to achieve a lock with the receiver.that one won't be able to fly till one of the other ones is turned off...none of the other ones currently on will be affected by the 40th one..the Futaba and JR systems use VERY different Spread Spectrum systems...the Futaba frequency hopping system basically uses a narrow band signal but change the frequency across a wide spectrum..the JR/Spektrum Direct Sequence system literally spreads the data packets across a wide spectrum.the great part about this is when the receiver puts all of this back together.the direct sequence system reduces the background interference to a minimum.. Kevin O'Dell
[RCSE] Merry Christmas
Merry Christmas to all and to all a good flight!
Re: [RCSE] 2.4 G Futaba v JR, ..... Thanks :-)
On Dec 4, 2007, at 11:07 PM, Kevin O'Dell wrote: As far as Spread Spectrum systems. From purely an engineering point of view, the Futaba system is by far more reliable.. Sure the JR system might work just fine. Although we have already heard reports of problems with satellite receivers... But true Spread Spectrum is the only way to go and I would not buy any 2.4 system that doesn't have it JR's Direct Sequence Spread Spectrum is true spread spectrum, as is frequency hopping that Futaba uses.the only reports I have seen are problems that can't be traced to the radio..in a very hostile RF environment (some major metro areas) Frequency Hopping Spread Spectrum (FHSS) can have latency issues..you won't loose any packets because the data is error correcting but, you might have a delay in the data packet getting there...this will slow the response time of the system, but not break itThe DSSS system can have an issue with signal fading depending on the number of and orientation of antennas in the aircraft.as well as the construction of the aircraft..all carbon birds might not present a great environment..but this also can happen in FHSS systems...under most circumstances, both systems provide a solid, interference free link. At this point, most SS applications outside the RC world have dropped the FHSS and gone with the DSSS...in IEEE 802.11 both FHSS and DSSS were standardized for 1 and 2 Mbit/s data rates.with 802.11b and beyond FHSS was left behind and DSSS was standardized for 5.5 Mbit/s and 11 Mbit/s data rates..so if the data rates increase, they may have to shift to DSSS. Kevin O'Dell N0IRW
Re: [RCSE] Spread Spectrum Differences
I guess my first question is you are a EE student and not an amateur radio operator? At any rate 802.11b, depending on the data rate, is probably direct sequence spread spectrum..a good explanation of the differences can be found in the ARRL Handbook for Radio Communicationsalmost any version in the past few years will have it. Kevin O'Dell N0IRW On Dec 4, 2007, at 11:45 PM, Peter Klemperer wrote: Hi, I'm an electrical engineering student and I'm wondering what the real technical difference is between the Futaba and Spektrum systems. Anyone out there that knows the specifics or can point to a resource? From what I gather from the threads, the Futaba system uses some sort of continuous frequency hopping but the JR only hops some of the time? What would trigger a hop (perhaps a detection of increased error rates)? OFF TOPIC: For a project during undergrad we were frustrated with looking for a ground frequency RC system to satisfy the rules of a design competition so instead we just dropped a small laptop with an ad-hoc 802.11b NIC into the vehicle and used that for our radio control. Would this qualify as an continuously-hopping spread spectrum 2.4 GHz radio system (of course we only needed 20 meters of range)? Cheers, Peter RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to soaring- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Airtronics Legend
Thanks to everyone that responded to my request for the Legend kit.I have picked one up.I knew the folks on the Exchange would come up with what I needed..Great folks and Great information!! Kevin O'Dell Ardmore, OK RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Airtronics Legend
Does anyone on the exchange have an Airtronics Legend Kit they would like to sell?? you can email me off list.. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, Kevin O'Dell RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Full size slope/ridge ships
Hey guys! Anyone know of any full-size gliders that can handle the rigors of full on aerobatics like what we put our slope ships through? How about DS? Thanks Kevin Andersen
Re: [RCSE] Real Balls
They are ball bearing end-plates for your long shaft. The doc's post had a url in it with plenty of pictures (don't open it while your wife is around though)... kev At 03:52 PM 10/12/2006, William Fann wrote: I am a new subscriber. What are real balls? I get the impression they are something different from what my wife thinks they are. Bill RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] New experiences and questions
Have you tried Sheldon? http://www.yntdesign.com/ Kevin At 10:00 AM 10/24/2005 -0400, you wrote: That reminds me - I started looking for a LoLo, and I only found lomcovak. Does anyone 'locally' deal in these? Johnny? Thanks, Brent RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Injoy info
I was cruising Tim McCann's website and jumped over to the Injoy site and found this: http://www.injoy-1.com/news.htm If you planned to put together a winch, you might want to get the parts now. I have only good things to say about my SuperSkeg winch and Injoy motor after a season of use. Kevin RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
WAS - Re: [RCSE] WHO IS RESPONSIBLE ? NOW: Where is Tom?
Where is Tom Nagel when we need to break log jams like this (with his quick wit)? Must be the precursor for the annual Bambidon vs. PETA people, followed by the downwind turn debate and then the annual 'Hate Sal' thread. Help me out people, have I missed any upcoming discussion topics here? Where is Gordy with a 'what have you flown lately'? obligatory soaring content: Tri-State Soaring finished the season this past Sunday with a contest in Pittsburgh's Hartwood Acres. Pete Carr kept his death grip on the season totals in both Unlimited and RES. Reece Brock won unlimited for the day and Dale Soergel won RES. Thanks to everyone who flew with us this year! Kevin www.ts3.org At 01:47 PM 9/22/2005 -0400, you wrote: snip, snip, snip, snip, snip, snip, snip RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Winch Plans
http://www.laserarts.com Click on accessories, then Plan Sets. Regarding my post last week about these plans - I got a couple of private replies and while everyone seemed to put their own 'finishing touch' on the retriever, every reply was very positive regarding the operation of the retriever. Thanks to John for the pictures and John, Mark Drela and Glauco regarding the upgrade to the frying pan / backplate fastening. Kevin At 03:34 PM 9/5/2005 +, Pat Martin wrote: Are there any plans available out there for building a winch? Pat RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Laser Arts retriever plans
Has anyone on the list built a retriever from the plans that Laser Arts offers? Any feedback you would care to offer? If you want to reply privately, I'd be glad to summarize the info and post it back to the list. Thanks, Kevin Sheen RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Solenoids
Since the subject came up, Cole Hersee has a solenoid that is electronic (i.e. no moving parts like your typical solenoid / relay). The part number is 48785 and it is rated at 1 million switching cycles, but you get to pay for those cycles with a cool 140 bucks. I looked at the spec sheet on the solenoids I use and after a 10 second use, it is supposed to sit and cool for 20 minutes. You can see I abuse the two I have pretty good, even on a typical practice / fly for fun day. The 48785 solenoid is a continuous use rated solenoid. How often do these things go bad? In the short number of years I've been flying, I think I've seen a grand total of 2 go bad on 2 different winches. Kevin RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Sheldon flying
Just remind him to release the sailplane prior to being pulled down the field and off the foot switch. ;-) September 18 at Harwood, Sheldon, Kevin At 07:13 PM 8/15/2005 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim I have seen Sheldon fly td. With proper instruction he's not too bad. 8-) Reece
Re: [RCSE] LASS: NATS 2-meter and Unlimited photos
Who's GENIE is in the picture where Mike Remus is holding his Bubble Dancer? Good looking pictures! Kevin At 02:58 PM 7/28/2005 -0400, Ben Wilson wrote: Greetings gents -- I've posted my photos from the two days of 2-meter and the first day of Unlimited from the NATS. You can find these and more here: http://louisvillesoaring.org/gallery/2005nats RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Test message.....just delete....
Test message just delete RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Futaba 8 Channel Mini PCM Receiver
I have the following for sale, used but in excellent condition: Futaba R148DP 8-channel PCM Mini DC Receiver For a picture see the same product listed at Tower Hobbies here: http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?I=LXH274**P=0 Price: $119 Send inquiries to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Will pay for shipping. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] NATS events
Doesn't look like it: http://www.silentflight.org/NATS2005/Nats2005.html Kevin At 01:57 PM 4/25/2005 -0400, Keith wrote: Is there going to be XC at the NATS this year? Keith McLellan RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] skegs and teeth
Depends, do you land like this: http://www.ts3.org/gallery/CSS-2003-Pumpkin-Fly/DSCF0059 or this? http://www.ts3.org/gallery/CSS-2003-Pumpkin-Fly/DSCF0072 smile Kevin At 04:07 PM 3/16/2005 -0600, you wrote: Skegs (skid type peg) and teeth...need them or not? Does it help you get those points? Forget it they are a hazard to fly with! Best Regards, Don
RE: [RCSE] Who is the scoundrel. . . .?
Ya but that stuff is also GREAT for keeping stabs on. Stabless in Pittsburgh (for other reasons) At 06:59 PM 3/1/2005 -0800, you wrote: Not me. I advocate the use of Shoe Goo hinges. Wiggle your sticks David Judson -Original Message- From: Harley Michaelis Subject: [RCSE] Who is the scoundrel. . . .? that asked me to send him material for surgical rubber hinging, but neglected to pay me? RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] sagitta XC fuse is sold
I was totally overwhelmed with interest in this fuse, but felt the most fair method to chose the buyer was to select the first person who firmly committed to both buy it and ship it from Minnesota. I didn't wish to tick off the rest of you who were interested. I repeatedly tried to post on RCSE what was going on, but as most of you know it has been down for about 48 hours. I appreciate all the interest in the fuse, and hope you will be equally understanding of my predicament KEVIN KAVANEY [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
FW: Re: [RCSE] sagitta XC fuse is sold
THis email was sent to me reminding me that Bob Sealy is still making fuselages.. not sure if this particular one. I believe it would be someone more expensive and Bob is not exactly fast to respond or ship something he makes.. thanks everyone. KEVIN KAVANEY [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Original Message] From: Ed Jett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 1/21/2005 9:21:46 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] sagitta XC fuse is sold Kevin: I think the stretched version of this fuse is still available from Quality Fiberglass (Bob Sealy). Maybe you could pass the info on to those that were interested in it. Maybe they can still get one from him. I recently purchased a FG fuse for Leon Kincaid's Heat Seeker from him, so he is still producing fuses. Regards, Ed Jett - Original Message - From: KEVIN KAVANEY [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring soaring@airage.com Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 7:29 AM Subject: [RCSE] sagitta XC fuse is sold I was totally overwhelmed with interest in this fuse, but felt the most fair method to chose the buyer was to select the first person who firmly committed to both buy it and ship it from Minnesota. I didn't wish to tick off the rest of you who were interested. I repeatedly tried to post on RCSE what was going on, but as most of you know it has been down for about 48 hours. I appreciate all the interest in the fuse, and hope you will be equally understanding of my predicament KEVIN KAVANEY [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Sagitta XC fuse
Forgot to specify, this IS the fiberglass fuselage that Bob Sealy made for the sagitta and in the process, added about 6 inches of tail length. KEVIN KAVANEY [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Bob Sealy stretched Sagitta XC fuselage for sale. NIB
I have a NIB Bob Sealy Sagitta XC fuselage for sale. never been touched. It would be a nice addition to the short kit advertised today on this list. Bob stretched these longer than the stock wooden fuse to get the longer tail movement that most people prefered. $75.00 plus the shipping. could be a bit as this is very long and will need a box made up for it as the original box has been lost. KEVIN KAVANEY [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] New to RC Flight - Seeking Recommendations for RTF/ARF
Greetings, Everyone, I am new to rc flying but remember well the enthusiasm that my father and brother had for the sport when I was a child. It must be in the genes because now I have the same enthusiasm, particularly for the new electric rc planes that are arriving on the scene. I am writing to seek advice on purchasing an electric RTF or easily-assembled ARF that I can fly outdoors in low-to-no wind situations. I live on a hill in a forest clearing about the size of a baseball field. I can launch from a place at the top of the driveway that is level with the tops of most of the trees - beyond these trees is a deep, open valley. I am looking for a very maneuverable, fun flying model that has the option for flying slow, though it would be great if it could fly rather fast as well. I recently purchased a Firebird Scout on the recommendation of someone but am not finding it as responsive as I would like, and it needs more room to maneuver than I have available. I am thinking of trying a micro flyer instead, such as the Mini-Stik, which I have read about through a review by Greg Covey. I would appreciate any recommendations you have for your favorite RTF's and readily assembled ARF's (micro or not), suitable for a fast-learning beginner who will be flying in an area that calls for a good deal of maneuverability. Thank you and happy holidays, Kevin RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] BUILDING A GENIE OR LT/S THIS WINTER?
Andrew, When looking to cut your own cores, did you check out page one of file 03 - Wing, Genie and LT/S?? Here is a short excerpt: The dimensions given (10.3, etc.), are Chord Length for plotting. .010 was used for Skin Thickness. For each wing, Sect.1 and 2 are the SA7036 airfoil thinned to 8.7%. This transitions to the full thickness SD7003 at the end of Sect. 3. Section 4 is the SD7003. There is no twist washout. The diagram above this verbage along with the above text is just about all you need in order to create your templates. No one else cut the cores of my Jouster II or my RES-MAXX, all the information needed is available. Now if you want to talk about the items that Harley so generously puts together for GENIE builders, let's do that. He has gone out of his way to buy bulk quantities of the spring steel, nylon, rubber, and aluminum so that you and I can easily and conveniently buy a miscellaneous hardware pack that saves us from buying a ROLL of spring steel and multiple feet of aluminum, etc. Plans for 7.50 (clearly indicating for GENIE AND LT/S) is a pretty reasonable deal. Have you seen plans selling from MA, RCM, MAN, etc recently? You're gonna be hard pressed to find a plan for 7 bucks. Add all of that to a recently available composite fuselage. Clearly, it is a labor of love. I think Harley's real passion must be seeing other individuals discover an aspect of the hobby that he has enjoyed for decades (what else would explain the number of e-mails that he answers privately - for me it was dozens and dozens). just my opinion, Kevin At 07:11 PM 12/17/2004 -0500, you wrote: Harley Michaelis wrote: Since I first mentioned this spring of posting of the GENIE CD content at http://genie.rchomepage.com/, there have been well over 5,000 hits. That many intentional visits tells me people are looking for worthy airframe projects. Yet, but a few dozen inquiries have come in and fewer yet have committed to building. Harley, Keep in mind it has been nearly a year since I first looked seriously at building a Genie. Things may have changed since then. When I first looked at the Genie I was disappointed. From what it was being touted as, I was expecting to be able to visit the web site with glue in hand, download some plans, and start building. Though there is a wealth of information on the Genie (and great tips for building in general), one still had to resort to ordering plans and wing cores. This was a big disappointment for me. Perhaps this partially explains the hit-to-build ratio. I looked at cutting my own cores, and communicated with you (Harley), Winston, and Les, and decided it wasn't going to happen. I think Les even phoned me to try to answer my questions. I'm pretty sure I could cut a Genie-ish core now, but it seems one can only buy Genie cores. It just didn't seem right that I couldn't scratch-build a supposedly scratch-built sailplane. Now for anyone still reading this, and interested in a Genie, please do investigate this wonderful ship for yourself. It looks like a worthy project one will be amply pleased with. It just wasn't what _I_ was looking for, but it maybe exactly what others are. And again, it has been a year since I last looked into the Genie. My $0.02 Canadian. P.S. See Harley for the latest info, but my very outdated site is at: http://isoar.ca/~andrewm/rc/genie/ -- Andrew E. Mileski RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
FW: RE: [RCSE] Re: Anyone flown an Ebay Discus?
Maybe I started this mess by complaining about my AMD Discus. It really is bad news.. If others are like me, we often buy a kit and then don't get around to building it for 1 or 2 years. maybe that is the lack of complains.. as it was, I actually started mine within days of getting mine from california. the Seller was a gentleman who clearly stated: I no fly glider He was fast and a decent man. I mean no disrespect to him by my complaints.. I have a zillion other kits from all sorts of companies, new and vintage... to my eye, these are glossy and look fine until you try to put them together.. nothing lines up, terrible glue, holes that are so far off, that you can see them with the naked eye from across the room. Maybe I got the only bad apple KEVIN KAVANEY [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Original Message] From: Brian Courtice [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 11/24/2004 12:10:37 PM Subject: RE: [RCSE] Re: Anyone flown an Ebay Discus? This Condor guy has been all over the internet for the last few days making multiple posts about AMD products. He claims to have owned, flown, and loved just about every plane AMD has ever sold. He's made dozens of posts and every one of them has been wildly supportive of all things AMD. His motives are suspect in my own humble opinion. -Original Message- From: Condor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 2:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] Re: Anyone flown an Ebay Discus? I keep seeing these scale ships popping up on ebay. Anyone know who makes the kit and what it flies like? Looks like there is a Discus and Ventus. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=1200item=5928851 017rd=1 Kristopher RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. I have both the Vertus and Discus. Both fly great. I had no issues with any of the parts, but maybe I got lucky with the batch that I received. I got them both for around $200 each, and $45 shipping. I don't know what happened or what went wrong, but I have no issues. Also, you might want to point your browser at thier ebay feedback. If there kits are such, dare I use profanity, CRAP, then why aren't people making this clear in the least bit via the feedback mechanism. One could leave feedback along the lines, 'Kit delivered, but it sucks or SOMETHING that indicates WARPED WINGS, cracked body, gaps in the wing tip ... SOMETHING along the lines of what has been so over reported here. Why don't we see this feedback from the people who actually BUY the kit?!? I know why :) http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedbackuserid=yuejin2002 item=5929361117iid=5929361117frm=1883ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:SFS Yes I see one customer complaining about missing parts, and another complaining about a dead car radion, but I CAN'T for the life of me see ANY feedback about warped wings, low quality, seperating wing layers ... where please someone show me the light! PLEASE! Man I seached back serveral months just now, and evern looked at the auctions for the Vertus and the Discus ... ALL POSITIVE FEEDBACK!?!?!?!?! WHY I say feedback for over 30 Vertus sales ... not a single complaint ... what am I missing here?!? I am looking and not a single serperation layer. Not a single complaint ... ah I know ... the winning bids are really ALL employees of AMD. No wonder they have over 2100 positive feeback on thier products ... NOT! I have thier products and love them. -- Condor Condor's Profile: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/member.php?action=getinfouserid=48030 View this thread: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=292438 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.796 / Virus Database: 540 - Release Date: 11/13/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.796 / Virus Database: 540 - Release Date: 11/13/2004 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent
[RCSE] Torque of Mulitplex servos..
Does anyone know the approxmiate torque of Multiplex cockpit BB micro servos?? Multiplex 3BB micro servos..?? any info appreciated, no info in or on the box KEVIN KAVANEY [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] dream catcher
For what it's worth, I recently corresponded with Roy Simpson about one of his personal models,(Alcyone) got a quick reply, I sent him the money order, got another quick reply that he had recieved it and was given a shipping date. KEVIN KAVANEY [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Dream catcher close out sales
Roy Simpson has some personal kits he is selling at reasonable prices ie Grand Espirit for $300.00, Grand Aquila etc. check it out. www.dchobby.com sorry to see another resource go away. KEVIN KAVANEY [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] wanted: exterminator pro
might anyone have a javelin launch X-terminator pro fuselage or plane they might want to part with?? these were the later polecat co. with the stiffer carbon boom and carbon pod?? KEVIN KAVANEY [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] AMD scale planes.
I bought the Discus and it looked pretty good at first glance. As I started to build it, I was shocked at the poor quality of the work. more often than not, misaligned holes, poor glue joints that pulled apart or not even adequately glued in the first place. the elevator would not clear the fuseage fin and I ended up shimming it up to clear the fin. the fuselage is quite brittle and cracks very easily. the wings are actually a gum wood.. tough as nails..I have continued to crash this model and have yet to figure out the CG.. I think I was hopelessly nose heavy by the consensus of others.. I would suggest if you haven't bought one..DON't. save your money and find a nice used scale bird from someone upgrading to molded or something. I posted on rcgroups and had an offer for a RTF Nimbus 5 meter that I bought but have been chicken to fly yet. If anyone has been successful with the AMD's please post here so I can figure out what my problem is and I might just repair mine AGAIN. and try fly it in the future. KEVIN KAVANEY [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] For Sale: NIB Airtronics Grand Espirit kit
I have NIB Airtronics Grand Espirit kit. Nothing ever started. untouched. I want to state that the rubber bands on some of the wooden parts have left a hard residue that has stained the wood in some places. It should not effect things structurally, but someone might object to this situation. the box also has some strapping tape on the picture part of the box.. again some people would object. $300.00 plus shipping. please respond off list. KEVIN KAVANEY [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Sailaire kit for sale
NIB dream catcher Sailaire kit. never started. untouched. $125.00 plus shipping. kevin kavaney/ minneapolis minnesota KEVIN KAVANEY [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Security issues and R/C models-keep politics off the exchange
While I agree with Barry's premise that partisan politics (while at the same time sheepishly admitting to contributing to it in the past) are best discussed elsewhere, it would be foolish of us to ignore the effect of lobbying efforts in our represented republic. All three of the AMA presidential candidates mention working with various governmental organizations in their election statements. While Dave Brown's work with the FAA is important I think that all three of them might be neglecting the source of some of the more recent temporary flight restrictions (another debate in itself), that being Homeland Security. Large companies, organizations and other groups all hire lobbyists to ensure their interests are fairly represented in Washington (yet another discussion, money in politics). I think the AMA needs to not only continue the efforts they have made recently with the FAA and others, they also need to expand it to keep us out of the limelight and keep those who might be crafting legislation educated about our activities. I think this effort is truly non-partisan since it effects us all. This is just a curiosity question since I don't know much about the AMA at the president and AVP level (the executive counsil): Do the SIG presidents, TK and Jack before him, have much input in the AMA? My guess is they don't since they aren't included in the EC. One last item since I don't post much, did I miss the annual PETA v. KoB (Killers-of-Bambie) thread with obligatory soaring content of course? Kevin At 09:11 AM 10/21/2004 -0400, you wrote: Just a polite request to keep this sort of political rant off the exchange. There's plenty of venues for this stuff. Soaring should be a safe haven from politics. Enough Barry Andersen RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Dave Mathewson for AMA President
Besides the current Model Aviation magazine candidates statements, two have web sites: http://www.mathewson4pres.com http://www.oberdieckforpres.org (I'm not aware of any on-line presence for Dave Brown, please correct me if I'm wrong) Vote! Kevin At 09:25 AM 9/29/2004 -0700, Bill Swingle wrote: Well I'll be. Gordy asked a candidate about my favorite flavor of flying; Foamie Combat. More importantly Mr. Mathewson offered a reasonable and supportive answer! Wow! Does this mean I can now safely consider myself legitimate? No longer a bastardized, fringe participant? Goodness, I can hardly imagine. No longer the black sheep, or red-headed step child? No longer Un-Clean? You know, if there were more than 2.5 slope flyers in my county, I might get pretty excited. DAVE MATHEWSON for president. Thanks for asking Gordy. I'm impressed. Let's be sure to give this gentleman a look: Dave Mathewson AMA Vice President, District 2 7271 State Fair Blvd. Baldwinsville, NY 13027 315.727.4275 315.635.1039 (Fax) Bill Swingle Janesville, CA http://www.billswingle.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=5 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] TFR - 8/27/04
If you'd read past the first paragraph you'd probably see if for yourself: http://www.faa.gov/Newsroom/highlights/rnc_fa2.htm Chime this, pal. Kevin At 10:11 PM 8/27/2004 -0400, Ben Diss wrote: I have no idea where you got that. Here is the TFR in effect in the NYC area from Aug 30 - Sep 1. Skip ahead to Part 5. It does mention model aircraft (I stand corrected). However, if you READ IT, you'll see that it specifies very specific areas that the restriction applies. You can't fly a model airplane into Newark at ANY time. Again, the AMA is out of touch. BTW, I love how people chime in and are so eager to just roll over on this nonesense. I own and operate a REAL aircraft out of Westchester. I work in a building ONE BLOCK from where the RNC is being held. I live this crap every day. Now the AMA wants to take away my toys too? -Ben --- 4/9053 ZNY PART 1 OF 6 FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS NEW YORK METRO AREA, NY. EFFECTIVE FROM 0408301100 UTC (0700 LOCAL ON AUGUST 30, 2004) UNTIL 0409012259 UTC (1859 LOCAL ON SEPTEMBER 1, 2004). PURSUANT TO TITLE 14 SECTION 91.141 CODE OF FEDERAL REGULATION (CFR) ALL AIRCRAFT OPERATIONS ARE PROHIBITED WITHIN A 7 NMR OF 404501N/0735938W (LGA VOR/DME 263 RADIAL 6 NM FIX), FROM THE SURFACE UP TO BUT NOT INCLUDING FL180, EXCLUDING A 2 NMR OF 405055N/0740344W (TEB VOR/DME), AT AND BELOW 2000 FEET MSL, EXCEPT AS DESCRIBED IN PART A BELOW. EFFECTIVE FROM 0408301100 UTC (0700 LOCAL ON AUGUST 30, 2004) UNTIL 0409012259 (1859 LOCAL ON SEPTEMBER 1, 2004), ALL AIRCRAFT OPERATIONS ARE PROHIBITED WITHIN NEW YORK CLASS B AIRSPACE, FROM THE SURFACE, UP TO BUT NOT INCLUDING FL180, EXCEPT AS DESCRIBED IN PART B. BELOW. THIS AREA IS DEPICTED ON THE AREA DEFINED BY THE NEW YORK VFR TERMINAL AREA CHART, AS THE CLASS B AIRSPACE LGA 20 NM, JFK 20 NM, AND EWR 20 NM BOUNDARIES. THE AIRSPACE WITHIN A 3 NMR OF 404400N/0732330W (DPK VOR/DME 241 RADIAL 5 NM FIX), AT AND BELOW 2000 FEET MSL AND THE AIRSPACE WITHIN A 3 NMR OF 410500N/0734125W (CMK VOR/DME 215 RADIAL 13 NM FIX), AT AND BELOW 2000 FEET MSL, IS EXCLUDED FOR ARRIVALS AND DEPARTURES ONLY TO/FROM FARMINGDALE REPUBLIC, NY (FRG) AND WESTCHESTER COUNTY, NY (HPN) AIRPORTS. END PART 1 OF 6 PART 2 OF 6 FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS NEW YORK METRO AREA, PART A. INNER AREA ALL AIRCRAFT OPERATIONS ARE PROHIBITED WITHIN A 7 NMR OF 404501N/0735938W (LGA VOR/DME 263 RADIAL 6 NM FIX), FROM THE SURFACE, UP TO BUT NOT INCLUDING FL180, EXCEPT FOR THE FOLLOWING OPERATIONS AND AS DESCRIBED BELOW: 1. LAW ENFORCEMENT AND MILITARY AIRCRAFT DIRECTLY SUPPORTING THE UNITED STATES SECRET SERVICE (USSS), PRECOORDINATED EMERGENCY MEDICAL FLIGHTS AND OTHER OPERATIONS APPROVED BY THE USSS. REGULARLY SCHEDULED COMMERCIAL PASSENGER AIRCRAFT OPERATING IN COMPLIANCE WITH THEIR APPROVED TRANSPORTATION SECURITY ADMINISTRATION (TSA) SECURITY PROGRAM AND CARGO AIRCRAFT THAT MEET OR EXCEED THE TSA(S) DOMESTIC SECURITY INTEGRATION PROGRAM (DSIP) OR ITS EQUIVLENT AND ARE ARRIVING INTO AND/OR ARE DEPARTING FROM LGA, EWR, AND JFK. 2. ONLY ESTABLISHED SIGHTSEEING VFR HELICOPTER OPERATIONS ARRIVING AND DEPARTING THE WEST 30TH STREET (JRA) AND PORT AUTHORITY-DOWNTOWN-MANHATTAN/WALL STREET (JRB) HELIPORTS THAT HAVE BEEN TSA SECURITY SCREENED AT A GATEWAY AIRPORT, BETWEEN THE HOURS OF 1100 UTC UNTIL 2300 UTC (0700 LOCAL-1900 LOCAL). OVERFLIGHTS OF MANHATTAN ARE NOT PERMITTED. 3. ALL EMERGENCY MEDICAL FLIGHT OPERATIONS SHALL BE COORDINATED END PART 2 OF 6 PART 3 OF 6 FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS NEW YORK METRO AREA. IN ADVANCE WITH THE FAA SUPERVISOR AT THE NEW YORK TRACON, AT 516-683-2984 TO AVOID POTENTIAL DELAYS. 4. ALL AIRCRAFT SHALL SQUAWK A DISCRETE TRANSPONDER CODE ASSIGNED BY ATC. ALL AIRCRAFT SHALL SQUAWK THE DISCRETE TRANSPONDER CODE PRIOR TO DEPARTURE AND AT ALL TIMES WITHIN THE TFR. IN THE EVENT OF A TRANSPONDER FAILURE, THE PILOT SHALL ADVISE ATC AND ATC WILL PROVIDE THE MOST DIRECT COURSE TO OUTSIDE THE LATERAL LIMITS OF THE TFR. 5. ALL AIRCRAFT MUST REMAIN IN TWO-WAY RADIO COMMUNICATIONS WITH ATC. PART B. OUTER AREA PROCEDURES FOR AIRCRAFT OPERATING WITHIN THE NY CLASS B TFR FROM 7 NMR TO THE CLASS B 20 NM BOUNDARY, FROM THE SURFACE, UP TO BUT NOT INCLUDING FL180, ARE LISTED BELOW: 1. FIXED WING AIRCRAFT SHALL BE ON AN ACTIVE IFR OR VFR FLIGHT PLAN FILED WITH AN AFSS. 2. ALL AIRCRAFT SHALL SQUAWK A DISCRETE TRANSPONDER CODE ASSIGNED BY ATC. ALL AIRCRAFT SHALL SQUAWK THE DISCRETE TRANSPONDER CODE PRIOR TO DEPARTURE AND AT ALL TIMES WITHIN THE TFR. IN THE EVENT OF A TRANSPONDER FAILURE, THE PILOT SHALL ADVISE ATC AND ATC WILL PROVIDE THE MOST DIRECT COURSE TO OUTSIDE THE LATERAL LIMITS OF END PART 3 OF 6 PART 4 OF 6 FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS NEW YORK METRO AREA. THE TFR. 3. ALL AIRCRAFT MUST REMAIN IN TWO-WAY RADIO COMMUNICATIONS WITH ATC. 4. FIXED WING OPERATIONS ARE LIMITED TO AIRCRAFT ARRIVING OR DEPARTING LOCAL AIRFIELDS. AIRCRAFT MAY NOT LOITER. 5. HELICOPTER
[RCSE] Superslim 8 reciever on ch 13 for sale.Airtronic Jr shift.
In my hast I purchased JOes's superslim before I realizied it is for airtronics/ Jr shift and I will not be able to use it on my Futaba 9-C It is already on it's way to me. If you are interested in this, please reply to me off list. I will have to sell it at a loss of course. make offer?? kevin KEVIN KAVANEY [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] super slim resold.
the super slim reciever has already been resold.. thankx for the bandwidth... kevin KEVIN KAVANEY [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Eclipse programming help
Hi all, I'm trying to help a friend setup an Art Hobby Sierra along with a Hitec Eclipse. I've gone through the manual a couple of times and I can setup crow so that everything is moving in the right direction but I'm missing something because the flaps are drooping. Does anyone know of a link to help me along? I searched google but didn't see anything obvious. Is anyone using an Eclipse and have any pointers? Thanks in advance for any suggestions, Kevin RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Lost model alarm challenge
Thank heavens for guys like Simon, Rob Crockett, Harley, Dr. Drela and others who continually share their knowledge and designs with the rest of us neophytes! Rob's design is time tested and even has some pretty pictures: http://www.ncws.com/rcrock/shepherd.htm his others are here: http://www.ncws.com/rcrock/electron.htm he is even kind enough to teach us rudimentary PCB fabrication: http://www.ncws.com/rcrock/makepcb.htm Kevin At 08:28 PM 1/8/2004 -0800, Simon Van Leeuwen wrote: These alarms look at the pulse width (100-200ms - 150ms considered neutral), any time the signal is non-existant or exceeds this value (20-30ms each side) the circuitry sends current to the alarm (in most cases, a piezo buzzer). No re-design is not required. All one has to do is supply the alarm with it's own power supply, in this case the appropriate number of lithiums in series to provide adequate voltage to power the piezo. Herein lies the problem. Typical primary (not rechargeable) Maganese Dioxide Lithium batteries put out relatively low current. But those which are considered high current will satisfy the demands of a typical piezo. A candidate would be a Sanyo PN 2CR5, but the size/weight may be an issue (mm: 34L x 17W x 45H @ 40g). THis unit is 2 cylindrical cells in series producing 6V with a max continuous discharge of 1.5A Of course there are smaller hi-perf Lithium cells, but their O/P would have to be tested against the piezo being used (or get the current specs for the piezo). Now the easy part. All that is required to modify your existing alarm is to remove the positive lead from the pigtail that goes to the RX. Now attach the Lithium pack to the alarm in such a way as to survive the crash. Attach the positive(+, red) lead to the positive terminal of the battery. Tap into the negative(-, black) going to the RX, and attach it to the negative side of the pack. Before you do this, buy a small switch and put it in that negative lead. The smaller the better, the idea being in a crash even the switch can be moved to the off position due to the impact. That's it. Tha alarm will see the pulse width when the servo is on (singnal lead and GND), but will have it's own PWR supply if things go awry. Chris Veitch wrote: Guys A number of vendors make these that plug into the RX and make a noise when the TX is off/out of range, I have one. Very useful if you land in very long grass on the slope in a reasonable manner. Fortunately (touch wood) I have not had any problem landings at a distance for some time. In the days when I was learning or had some technical issue the landing out normally involved some amount of higher landing speed. This frequently leads to a movement of kit in the place which can disconnect components from the power source. Therefore are there any vendors out there that can build one that would carry a lithium watch style battery as a power source and preferably be thin so that it would emit a noise if the TX was off or if it had no power from the RX. I think this would require electronic arming by switching the RX on and an off button on the unit. Sounds like it could be a YNT project ?? Any takers ?? Regards Chris Chris Veitch UK -- *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Simon Van Leeuwen, Calgary, Alberta RADIUS SYSTEMS Cogito-Ergo-Zoom IAC25233*MAAC12835*IMAC1756*LSF5953*IMAA20209 *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] digital scales
I purchased a Sunbeam digital scale at Office Max and have had good luck with it. one other club member has done the same. they cost $29.99. I have not tested it with some sophisicated accuracy device, but sure beats anything I had previously. kevin kavaney KEVIN KAVANEY [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why Wait? Move to EarthLink.
[RCSE] AMA meets with TSA regarding model transportation
Did anyone else see the front page of the AMA's website? http://www.modelaircraft.org/ Maybe they were following the recent Sport tube thread Kevin www.ts3.org RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] New JR Products in 2003
RC Universe had a recent thread on a new transmitter labeled 9X. It looked like it fit between the 8103 and the 10x but from the exchange rate pricing, didn't look like it was competitively priced to the Futaba 9C series. I think I saw sliders on both sides like the 9C and it also has a big LCD screen like the 10x. Can you ask your source if he knows when they might be introduced in this country (Toledo would be great)? Kevin At 10:25 AM 12/12/2002 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A JR dealer told me that JR would be coming out with a number of significant new products in 2003. Does anyone out there have any details? Tom Gressman/Denver RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Source for wire harness mtls
Martin, check out: http://www.ncws.com/rcrock/connector.htm It should help, Kevin At 04:01 PM 12/8/2002 -0800, Martin Cleary wrote: I'm a bit frustrated with the cost of wiring components via the local dealer. I can appreciate the cost involved in a slow moving inventory...but $6 for a 6 inch servo extension... I'd like to make my own wiring harnesses. Is there a good source for bulk connectors and the proper wire? Also, does it require a special crimper or can they be effectively soldered? Thanks Martin btw-I do try to patronize local people for obvious reasons. As self indulgent as this hobby is, I need to make best efforts to control the costs RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Servo trays and RDS site
Covers?!? You don't need no stinking covers! Check out Harley's RDS: http://www.proptwisters.org/rds2/index.html No covers, slop, drag, snags, etc. Nothing but a clean airfoil (and they taste good too (oops, wrong commercial)). good luck finding the covers, Kevin (I'm not a Michaelis' employee, I just play one on this list) At 11:36 AM 11/11/2002 -0800, Lynn Meredith King wrote: Good day all. I'm looking for sources of servo trays. The round ones with a cover and possibly a fairing for the push rod. Rectangular may work also. Such as Robbe or Graupner. URL's would be great. Also, any idea what's up with the Icare site. I can't get it to work. Lynn in Anacortes WA. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Servo trays and RDS site
Sorry if my tongue-in-cheek attempt at a little list humor was improper. In my humble opinion, Harley has done us all a great favor in making these inexpensive little adapters so easy to install and use. RDS works great! Kevin At 01:27 PM 11/11/2002 -0800, Harley Michaelis wrote: Michaelis, in fact, has no employees and never did. RDS was a labor of love and a gift to the modeling fraternity involving zero compensation on the sale of the Kimbrough Products injection molded couplers that can be used to install the system. When, in an RDS installation, the servo is installed through an opening in the bottom skin, the removed skin becomes a cover to tape back .No horn or rod is used, so there is nothing sticking out beyond the skin that needs covering. Super neat and effective! Most moldie manufacturers have defeated the use of the RDS, for flaps anyway, by making wings with servo wells oriented at 90 degrees to the hingeline, instead of the 45 degrees needed. Pity to still see stuff hanging out and covers with bulges on them when it is all so unecessary. - Original Message - From: Kevin Sheen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Soaring [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 12:41 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Servo trays and RDS site Covers?!? You don't need no stinking covers! Check out Harley's RDS: http://www.proptwisters.org/rds2/index.html No covers, slop, drag, snags, etc. Nothing but a clean airfoil (and they taste good too (oops, wrong commercial)). good luck finding the covers, Kevin (I'm not a Michaelis' employee, I just play one on this list) At 11:36 AM 11/11/2002 -0800, Lynn Meredith King wrote: Good day all. I'm looking for sources of servo trays. The round ones with a cover and possibly a fairing for the push rod. Rectangular may work also. Such as Robbe or Graupner. URL's would be great. Also, any idea what's up with the Icare site. I can't get it to work. Lynn in Anacortes WA. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Obechi source?/Wing covering
One of our local club members ordered some from Superior Balsa in CA. I think the website is: www.superiorbalsa.com Hope this helps, Kevin At 06:59 PM 10/28/2002 -0500, John Bojack wrote: Anyone have a source for Obechi wood? Any other methods recommended for sheeting a built-up wing that would add strength and airfoil trueness to large-span cross-country glider? Appreciate the help and suggestions. John Bojack LSF 4 #4412
RE: [RCSE] New shop equipment
That is a fantastic addition. I watched a DYI channel show on shop dust collection several weeks back. Not only did they show you how to build your own sanding box but they also featured a couple different air filtration units. One was overkill but they also had a Ridgid unit that could be moved around the shop and was pretty quiet to operate. I have yet to see it at Home Depot though. Kevin At 04:01 PM 9/30/2002 -0500, James Vaello wrote: One thing besides my suggestion of a microwave is a sanding table for dust collection. I used to have one in an old shop and it consists of a pegboard top, and a box underneath. If you hook up your shop vac to the box, you get a mild vacuum along the top of the pegboard, and keep alot of the dust out of the air. Just a sugegstion, you milage may vary. James From: Bill Swingle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RCSE [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [RCSE] New shop equipment Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 10:53:06 -0700 Two more Good points. Electrical outlets! I keep most all my hand tools hanging on the edge of my building table. Constantly plugging and unplugging different tools is inconvenient and yields a tangled mess. Right now I've got 12 outlets and 9 are in use. Ventilation is occasionally very important. A great idea that will occasionally be immensely useful. Another suggestion is Shelving! Lots of it. Bill Swingle Janesville, CA [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Public thanks for Jay D.!
Just wanted to give a public thanks to Jay Decker of monkeytumble fame. Jay is one of the good-guys to deal with when you are in the horse trading mode. I bought a fairly low dollar item from Jay and he packed it so that it was teamster proof on its travel across the country. If Jay advertises something on the list, you can be sure it in the condition he describes. Thanks again Jay, Kevin RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Changing TX frequency on a JR 8103 module?
Hi guys OKmost of the radio manufacturers have very broadband RF sections on their low to mid priced transmittersthose with no module. You can change the crystal in these...but, like horizon noted...i wouldn't go over 15 or 20 channels one way or the other...you will end up with too much of a mismatch and high SWR...this limits the power actually getting out of the antenna and the reflected RF doesn¹t do the output transistor any good either. The transmitters with modules are usually tuned and matched to even tighter tolerances so that changing a crystal may throw you into some high SWR problems...the flip side is that since the crystal isn't user replaceable it would make it illegal to change in the eyes of the FCC...and by extension if after changing a module crystal you had a crash and hurt someone, you would be guilty of negligence in the eyes of the law...with federal law to back it upthey are not that expensivebuy a separate transmitter module. Kevin O'Dell N0IRW RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Profi's with Rubber Duck's-another cause!
On 2/27/02 1:47 PM, Tony J. O'Hara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In doing some research on basic antenna propagation etc, I came across a section in the ARRL Antenna Handbook concerning ground effects on radiating antennas! Basically, they remind us that radiating RF waves that go downward towards the earth can be reflected and interfere with the direct radiated waves at certain vertical angles (and I think primarily at close distances!) The amount of this refection is very dependent on the frequency, the antenna height and the ground characteristics However, it is possible that at certain vertical angles from the transmitter's antenna these waves subtract thus reducing the signal levels at the receiver, hence possibly causing the servo jitter and loss of control reported. I can also believe that a Rubber Ducky antenna could behave differently in this respect than the standard 1/4 wavelength whip, due to its different radiation characteristics. This effect is more associated with HF signalson VHF in our case, the transmitter case and your body act as the counterpoise of the ground planethe earth is too far away and is de-coupled from the antennayes there can be some reflection of the signal that arrives at the rcvr at a slightly different time...but the earth also absorbs part of that energy and the RF that reaches the receiver is of slightly lower power than the signal that came directly from the antennaFM receivers in this case will lock on to the strongest signal..alsoraising the antenna straight up will sometimes fix a problem because the side lobes of the radiation pattern are the strongestalways remember that the worst radiation off of a verticle is directly off the end of the antennaDon't point the end of the antenna at the airplane.. Kevin O'Dell RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Profi's with Rubber Duck's-another cause!
on 2/27/02 3:35 PM, Tony J. O'Hara at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Kevin Thanks for your post! Regarding the FM capture effect. I wondered abt that, so I asked an old friend and an RF design expert about a6 weeks ago. He told me that the FM capture effect property is higher with a larger modulation index a la broadcast FM stations. As he reasons that RC tx's probably use an index of abt half that, the capture effect wouldn't be as pronounced! That might also explain some of the interference (from other park flyers etc TX nearby) that were reported over the last few months! If there was a strong RC receiver capture effect wouldn't they be rejected! Do you have any knowledge of that? Thanks regards Tony Colorado Remember that part of the problem here is the distance from the offending to the receiver vs. your transmitter to the receiverall these transmitters operate at about 500 milliwattsdepending on the condition of your batteriesso, if in the process of flying you happen to fly the receiver a bit closer to the offending transmitter than yoursyou will probably get some hits... Kevin O'Dell RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Servo Glitches
Hello, I am new to soaring and this group and usually just read the posts to learn and get ideas but could use some help now. I just finished an Art Hobby Elster 1.5M, aileron/elevator glider and there is some jittering in the right wing aileron servo. I'm using a Hitec Focus III FM, Cirrus MRX-4 receiver, Cirrus CS-21BB's in the wings connected with a buffer/booster Y harness and 24" extensions, a Hitec HS-55 for the elevator and a 110mAh battery. Everything works fine in the house but jitters at the field. I tried separating and twisting the right aileron servo and extension wires with no change. Then I cut the buffer/booster outbut no change. I've tried Hitec Feather 4 and 555 receivers with no change. I've read online that maybe soldering in a small capacitor near the servowill work but I'm hoping there's another solution. The other two servos function properly other than buzzing as if under load. This also seems to be draining the battery rather quickly. I live in a very small town with no hobby shop or any other flyers that I know of so any help anyone could provide would be appreciated. Thanks, KevinGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com
RE: [RCSE] Wing Question (Poly vs Di)
The Great Planes Spirit with the 2 Meter wing is what I have. I have used it on the original Spirit fuselage and also on a home-built fuselage modeled after the Gentle Lady. It flew much better on the sorta Gentle Lady fuselage. -Original Message- From: Bill Conkling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 1:41 PM To: Andy Roberts Cc: Stickles, Kevin; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [RCSE] Wing Question (Poly vs Di) Which Spirit? The Great Planes kit, and what size? .bc([EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.widomaker.com/~conk Williamsburg, VA 23185 On Tue, 5 Feb 2002, Andy Roberts wrote: Have many people put Spirit wings on other fuses? Which fiberglass fuses will it work on? Will it work on a glass fuse with a V-Tail? -Original Message- From: Stickles, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 10:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] Wing Question (Poly vs Di) I'm currently building a Spectra glider. I already have a Spirit wing that I can use so I'm thinking of experimenting with the new wing. The question I have for the group is what is the difference, performance-wise, between a polyhedral wing and a dihedral wing, and is there a rule of thumb for converting, i.e. if there is a 2 degree break at the middle and a 3 degree break out at the ends for a polydehral wing, does that equate to a 5 degree break in the middle for a dihedral wing? Kevin L. Stickles (CISSP) Deputy Project Manager, EMS DynCorp Systems Solutions LLC 11710 Plaza America Drive Reston, VA 20190 Work: (703) 261-4834 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Home: (703) 830-0096 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Re:Sal bashing
At 01:04 AM 1/4/2002 -0500, Jack Dubich wrote: And the kid, well he loves his first full house ship and flies it like a pro. Truer words never said, check our these pics: http://www.ts3.org/results/index.html http://www.ts3.org/photo/?display=Contest-2001%2FClarksburg-2%2Fdg-john1.jpg Kevin RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Who makes Aluminum Servo arms?
http://www.hnet.net/~swbmfg/ Kevin At 11:53 PM 12/3/2001 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looking for a mfg or supplier, let me know if you know of someone. Thanks Gordy
[RCSE] Tri-State Contest Announcement, July 1, Indiana, PA
Tri-State Soaring Society's hard working president, Jack Dubich, has worked with a club in Indiana, PA to get another contest on our circuit. If you live in central PA, come join us! Fly for fun or try to top our best, either way, I think you will have an enjoyable day. All of the details can been seen at: http://www.ts3.org/contests/contest01.html(click on the Indiana 2001 link) We will do our level best to get Reece to keep his shirt on, and to keep Reece in the points for the season, let's find him that set of wings for his Victory C! Kevin www.ts3.org RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Gravityless flight
on 5/24/01 11:44 AM, Cottrill, Flash at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was talking to a friend this morning and the subject of gravity came up. (no pun intended). I said, thank goodness we have gravity or else we wouldn't be able to fly gliders. His comment was, if we didn't have gravity we wouldn't have an atmosphere to fly in any way. I agreed, but then thought out loud, whet if we were in outer space in some kind of huge structure, that was full of air... and what if we had an RC glider and threw it, how would it fly without the presence of gravity? Would it control the same? Fly the same? How long would it fly for? I hate to get off the subject of motorcycles and onto the subject of flying gliders but would some of you think about my question and post your thoughts. Gordon. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] hi gordon. as long as it is moving forward through the gas (air)...and there are no circulating currents in the structurethen it should climb slightly with no control inputscontrol inputs should react the same as far as pitch, roll and yaw are concerned..however...the glider will rotate around the center of mass.not necessarily the CGand as soon as the glider lost forward momentumit would just hang there. thanks for the thought provoking queation...beats motorcycles.. kevin o'dell RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] What are the different ways to attach controll surfaces to small planes?
hello everyone. My name is kevin and i am new to model planes. i want to know of all the ways controll surfaces can be attached, and most specifically on smaller planes like the Dumas Staggerwing free flight kit that i would like to convert to R/C. Thank you for you time and assistance. kevin __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Alcyone 3M Instructions
Does anyone have or know where I can get a soft copy of the Alcyone 3M instructions? My set came without page seven. I tried comparing the hard copy to the soft copy on the Northeast Sailplane site but they are different. Thanks, Kevin B. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Nats Pictures
Dennis Modar attended and volunteered at the NATS this year and has posted the pictures that he took while in Muncie. Check out: http://www.ts3.org/pics/nats2k If I screwed up any names, it's probably my fault, not Dennis'. If you'll let me know, I'll fix them. Tri-State Soaring is also having an additional contest this summer in Kittanning, PA on 8/20/00. thanks, Kevin Sheen www.ts3.org RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Activator Charger
Anyone out there have any experience the Hobby Shack's Activator charger? TIA, Kevin RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Strengthening Tail Section
1. The way it is mounted to the boom, the joint of the rudder and stab, or if it is built up, the individual pieces? 2. What aspect of the balsa tail isn't strong enough? Which part is failing? 3. What is the tail configuration (T, Cross, V)? What is the name of the model? 4. What is the thickness? 5. Do you mean the tail section of the fuselage, or the tail feathers themselves? Could you be a little more specific? Let me preface this with the fact that I am not an expert flier but a little better that a beginner. I use my S1-26 for the harder flying. 1. You simply glue or epoxy to the CF Rod. The stab is slotted for the rudder; the pieces are solid balsa. 2. The joints are ok because I will light epoxy instead of just CA. 3. The plane is the Art Hobby's Colibri and Champion with standard cruciform tail. 4. Don't know; probably 1/8 in. 5. In this case I mean the tail feathers themselves. I'm thinking of using some light weight fiberglass cloth with epoxy. But since the Colibri flight weight is only ~ 7 oz. I'm not sure if this would work. Was also thinking of CAing the leading edges. Kevin GEORGE wrote: It depends on what way do you want to strengthen it. What so you have in mind? The way it is mounted to the boom, the joint of the rudder and stab, or if it is built up, the individual pieces? George "Kevin D. Broussard" wrote: Does anyone have any suggestions on how to strengthen a solid balsa tail on a hlg? TIA, Kevin RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] [Fwd: Art Hobby HLG Colibri 1M Glider]
Anyone else out there have any experience with the Colibri? "Kevin D. Broussard" wrote: Does anyone out there have any experience with the Hobby Shack/People "Art Hobby HLG Colibri 1M Glider"? Thanks, Kevin RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Winch or Winch kit?
Check out: http://www.alltel.net/~tmccann/ kevin At 04:27 PM 03/13/2000 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does any body out there have a good used winch thet want to sell? Or is there any one who sells plans or a kit for a winch? Doug Adams in Grand Rapids Mi RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Sport Flyer would like thoughts of DAW S1-26 HLG...
I'm a sport flyer myself and love the S1-26. It's easy to build and flies well for what I need. Kevin Mike Kovacs wrote: My wife has seen how much I like the foamies on the slope. She has found a foamie HLG called the Daves Aircraft Works S1-26 HLG. I told her that I would find out if it is a fun foamie. I am only a sport flyer flying for fun and enjoyment, no competition in the future for me. I am just a flyer not a competitor. I know this for when I fly fish I get enjoyment just out of the cast not the catch. Can some of you give me some thoughts about the DAW S1-26 HLG? Thanks. Out. = Mike Kovacs SEE IF I AM ON-LINE OR CHECK OUT R/C PICTURES AND WEATHER AT: http://www.geocities.com/j_m_kovacs mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Aluminum Tx Cases
Here is the SKU# I had before: 002599790603$14 Garland Hanson wrote: Kevin, what is that SKU again? I deleted it... Thanks, Garland - Original Message - From: Kevin D. Broussard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2000 8:52 PM Subject: [RCSE] Aluminum Tx Cases I just wanted to thank those that supplied the SKU# for aluminum cases from Wal-Mart. I found a store that has about six so I bought two. They were only $14. Not bad at all for the money. Thanks again, Kevin RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Support those who support You!
I had my bad experience and unfortunately it was my first experience with this hobby. I almost gave up immediately because of this experience. The Web Site is impressive and so are the products but after long deliberation I decided that I couldn't support someone that couldn't support me. I even sent an e-mail that said that "we both loose on this one". Even after several months I tried again to buy a plane and it still seemed like he didn't want to sell me one. I just don't understand why someone that seems to be so unhappy with being a supplier would stay in the business. Notice I didn't mentioned any names. Thanks, Kevin RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] DAW I26 hlg
I'm not very experienced but I built it with a 110mAh pack (no nose weight), Cirrus 25's, and the standard R600 JR Rx. I like the plane a lot and it flies well for what I know. It is easy to bulid and fly. Kevin Broussard Garret Yoshimura wrote: Hi All, If any have built a DAW I26 HLG as a Polyhedral version, I would appreciate any input. I'd like to get it as light as possible. What size battery pack was used? Did you have to add any ballast to the nose? What size/kind of servos did you use? What kind of rx? Any other recommendations for modifying it would be appreciated. Thanks in advance for your reply. cu, garret RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Diamond
I'm a little confused here. Can somebody put me straight? If these Diamonds are for the F3B Worlds would it not have been better preparation to have been making them 6 mths or more ago so that the pilots could be at one with them? I've seen lots of comps won with inferior models because the pilots knew them well but far less the other way around. Yeah I know thumbs blah, blah but the best will tell you there is little to chose between the best thumbs so it doesn't hurt to look at the other parameters. Tell me I'm wrong (:-) Kevin -Original Message- From: Sal DeFrancesco [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Walter Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 05 August 1999 17:40 Subject: Re: [RCSE] Diamond At the risk of repeating myself, the Diamond is NOT FOR SALE! The moldes are owned by Gordon Jennings and he makes a few per year for use of his team. I was simply making a comment on what they probably would cost if he needed to compensate for the labor and materials to make these for sale. Actually the materials cost is not the major factor..it is the labor. It is not saleman's hype because you cannot buy one! BTW...the stereo cable business is hype...very large profits...I know because I was involved in the high end business. (Never cables!) The Diamond is a pain in ther butt to make in competiton quality. Walter Lynch wrote: Other than using some of the more costly composite materials in its construction and being a little more careful about weight, etc. during lay up, I too cant see the justification of the super high cost. I guess there are people out there who will pay anything for a plane because some slaesman tells them it was manufactured by true artisans with the latest and greatest proprietary techniques that limit its production to 10 per year. Reminds me of the high end stereo kick I was on a few years back where you pay 100.00/ft for the "clear hyperlitz 6N pure copper bundled" speaker wire- "but it HAS to sound better, I paid 1500.00 for these speaker cables!" What is our HOBBY coming to? Walter -Original Message- From: Richard Dow [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, August 05, 1999 2:35 AM Subject: [RCSE] Diamond Sal In an earlier post you said that the Diamond was a difficult plane to manufacture. You also said that the cost would be $2000 to $2500 per plane if they were sold to the general public. Since the molds already exists, why would it be that much more difficult to manufacture than say an Emerald? Also, having not seen a Diamond what would justify the high price? Inquiring minds want to know! Regards Rich RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Sal DeFrancesco Northeast Sailplane Products 140 Kirby Lane Williston, VT. 05495 802-658-9482 Website: http://www.nesail.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Tragi 702 or 3
Hi, The one that rises my sap is the 702. The planform, A/R and sections look right. The fuz has a trendy narrow x-section with a small pylon and a decent sized V tail. I could be wrong but I understand the moulds etc are still being made so it's early days yet, certainly one to keep an eye out for though. The Tragi quality is right up there. Let me know if you want a 3-view. All the best Kevin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 01 August 1999 16:15 Subject: Re: [RCSE] Tragi 702 or 3 In a message dated 8/1/99 9:55:33 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Subj: [RCSE] Tragi 702 or 3 Date: 8/1/99 9:55:33 AM Eastern Daylight Time From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John C) To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Soaring airage) Does anyone have any info on the new Tragi 702 or is it 3 ? Regards John C If anyone would know its Kevin Newton with QFI. I carboned this note to him. Gordy Louisville Kentucky RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] wing servos
According to Horizon Hobby's and Hitec's web pages: the JR 341: 32 oz/in torque .63 oz JR 331: (a little cheaper than the 341) 42 oz/in torque .63 oz HS-80: 31 oz/in torque .62 (.76 w/metal gears) HS-81: 36 oz/in .59 (.67 w/metal gears) HS-85 (has a top ball bearing): 38 oz/in .7 (.84 w/metal gears) (I'll let Karlton hawk the Multiplex stuff) you can get all the rest of the info from: www.horizonhobby.com www.hitecrcd.com hope this helps, kevin At 06:15 PM 7/30/99 +0200, Juan Cifuentes wrote: Hi I am building a DAW 1-26 (2m.), and the instructions recommend JR341 servos for the wings. They are expensive and not easy to get over here. Does anybody know of the equivalent size and torque in the Hitec/Multiplex range? TIA Juan [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
