Re: [RCSE] Bat flying wing/ Trimming
4 3/8 inch is the sweet spot... You are hyperstalling it if you see it oscilate as you fly it. This is due to it being nose heavy and needing up elevator/reflex to make it fly... The most up/down travel you need is less than 1/4 inch!!- Original Message -From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: Saturday, October 21, 2006 2:25 pmSubject: Re: [RCSE] "Bat" flying wing/ TrimmingTo: Soaring@airage.com One of the characteristics is that if I get a half-way decent lauch out of it, it tends to start a quick porpoising like motion. Check out my "trimming Flying wings" page: http://www.aerofoam.com/wngtrmpg.html Mark Mech www.aerofoam.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to soaring- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Airtronics RX Sale
I'll take the berg if its still available- Original Message -From: "Gary S. Baldwin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: Friday, October 13, 2006 11:05 amSubject: [RCSE] Airtronics RX SaleTo: soaring@airage.com 5 Airtonics 92765/72 RX 17 and 42 (6 Channel) FM $30 each 1 Airtonics 92785/72 RX 17 FM (8 Channel) $35 1 Airtonics 92785/72 RX 17 PCM (8 Channel) $40 1 Airtonics 92745/72 RX 17 FM (4 Channel) $20Also JR R610M (with Blue Dot) RX17 (6 Channel) $15 Berg 6 FM (6 Channel) RX 17 $20 RCD 535 (4 Channel) RX 17 $15Take all for $250 and I'll pay the shipping. Thanks!Gary Baldwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 850 566-8441 Tallahassee, Florida
Re: [RCSE] A defense of training beginners via slope
Less stressfull.Not to mention the humbling experience of the famous Walk of Shame - Original Message - From: Pat McCleave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, May 29, 2006 6:50 pm Subject: Re: [RCSE] A defense of training beginners via slope Jeff, You are spot on about teaching at the slope except for one small part. Actually you fly back at yourself a lot on the slope if you fly back and forth along the face of the slope. That is one of the really great teaching aspects of going to the slope for training purpose along with the other fine points you already made. When training a new pilot on the slope and with the plane flying back down the slope towards the pilot, if the plane turns towards the slope you can teach them to push the stick towards the slope so the plane will fly away. I usually demonstrate this to them a couple of times to show them what I mean. I also use a similar approach when landing coming at you, but use the wing as the guide. I tell the student if the plane is flying at you, to always push the stick in the direction of the low wing to bring it back to level. After I get them feeling comfortable with those tips, I explain that you have to visualize yourself setting in the plane. The nice thing about the slope is that a lot of the time you can teach a pilot the basics of control in just one flight. Of course it is not at all hard to keep him in the air for 30 minutes to an hour or even longer. Not generally the case at the thermal field. See Ya, Pat McCleave Wichita KS - Original Message - From: Jeff Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Soaring@airage.com Sent: Monday, May 29, 2006 1:12 PM Subject: [RCSE] A defense of training beginners via slope Someone pointed out that slope foamies were a 'weird' choice for teaching beginners, and while I'll admit that I momentarily forgot that RCSE is 95% about thermal flying, a fine and noble pursuit in itself, I think that giving beginners their first flights at a slope has some benefits. First and foremost, the lift is always 'on.' While you can glide for awhile after launch at a thermal site if no lift is found, lift is abundant on a slope. Another benefit is that the glider can be flown close to the pilot, and even hovered into the wind. It isn't even necessary to fly the glider toward the beginner pilot, so they can learn the habit of moving the sticks opposite its apparent movement after they get used to flying normally. It isn't typical to spend much time flying toward yourself at the slope anyhow. Flights also tend to last longer at the slope, so a lot of practice can be packed into one session. Obviously all kinds of gliders can be flown at the slope, depending on wind conditions. Jeff RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to soaring- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] F3B
Hey guys I have , a spare Fisher Plus V-Ultra fuselage and V tail. It is all rigged up with the wing harness and pushrods All is needed is to make a wing for it (wing is RG15) I have an F3B and F3F fuselage and V tail.. It's a steal $175.00 plus sh - Original Message - From: Michael Lachowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, May 6, 2006 7:27 am Subject: Re: [RCSE] F3B Harry DeBoer wrote: Now that most of the smoke has cleared, where can we find more out about F3B; 3. how do you get started? Just like anything else in the hobby. It helps to have some others around to assist you. And it helps even more to have a group that flies together. This lets you practice some of the man on man aspects, plus a little friendly competition in practice on who is launching highest, going fastest, etc never hurt anyone in improving thier model setup. And of course, RCSE doesn't hurt. Obviously there were quite a few responses. Mostly from guys who really love to fly F3b. There really is no way to explain what it is like to fly distance and speed to someone who has only flown TD. You can be descriptive and say what takes place, but until you've flown some good distance groups and done it is some good air, you just don't know... 4. what airplanes qualify? Almost anything qualifies. Lots of TD models are out there with MH- 32's, RG15's, etc. They are good enough to get the feel of the tasks and to learn a lot about flying. Like models will go up without circling You can even fly a Supra in F3b. And if you go to ancient history... you can use a woody. 5. about how much dose it cost to compete? Like anything, as much as you want. The biggest cost is the practice time you need to improve your flying skills. You can buy a good model, but it doesn't replace the practice required to learn to fly it well. 6. on average how many people do you need to run a contest? Most F3b contests get run be the people flying them. If you read the rules, it looks like a billion officials. But just like our AMA TD contests, you don't need most of them. The only big overhead help item is getting guys out to base B for the distance flights. Your own helpers at base A can usually keep track of the flight times and count laps. There are a few F3b buzzer systems in various places around the US. Some of them even take care of all the timekeeping and lap counting. The only thing official needed is someone at base A and base B to push the appropriate buttons. And yes, you can even fly the F3b tasks in a contest all by yourself. I wouldn't recommend it, but it has been done. What you didn't ask is what can you learn from flying F3b. Of course, we all abuse Jeff Steifel, about his flying. But his overall flying has gotten better since he has been flying F3b. If you've never flown on monofilament and a F3b winch, you probably have a lot to learn about setting up your model for launch. I have several F3b winches. Great to launch my Bubble Dancer as well as my F3b models. Got rid of my FLS decades ago. I hope you get a chance to meet up with Dave or someone else in your area to give flying off some F3b winches a try. And you still have time to change your NATS entry from XC to F3b! RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to soaring- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
