RE: [RCSE] BAD VENDOR REPORT!!!!!!!!!!!! - GOOD VENDOR

2006-09-21 Thread Lydon, Matthew \(NBC Universal\)
Give No BS batteries a try. I have purchased my last batch of packs from
them, and have been very impressed. Excellent quality pack construction,
they live up to their ratings, and if your buying more than one
identical pack, he sells you the second one at 25% off.

Take a look at: http://www.hangtimes.com/nobsbatteries.html

Completely unsolicited, just a happy customer.

Matt 

-Original Message-
From: Todd Larsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 3:35 PM
To: soaring@airage.com
Subject: [RCSE] BAD VENDOR REPORT

I should have listened to a LOT of your guys' advice regarding BATTERIES
AMERICA...what a JOKE of a company.

Past experiences were nominal like wrong items shipped only to have me
ship back to wait and wait to finally get what I originally
ordered.dealing with RUDE people on their phone..receiving a
couple RX packs that didn't even SNIFF the capacity level AFTER a 24
hour charge with my Sirius Pack former..get the runaround over the
phone about NOT PROPERLY CHARGING, etc.  Like a Dumb-dumb I keep loyal
and try to give them the benefit of the doubt.

Recently (the past 2 and 1/2 years) I have had THREE painful surgeries
on my FEET that has hampered me to do much flying...or anything at all
at that.
Prior to my second operation I purchased servo's and batteries for
upcoming projects once I am back on my feet.  Well a THIRD operation was
necessary, unfortunately.and am now getting projects completed. I
cycled a 2100 mah pack , recently, which I purchased roughly a year ago
and have not touched IT or the other products like Volz servo's and
another RX pack from a local hobby store, and it cranked out a wopping
510mah after a 24 hour trickle charge. I then re-cycled it for another
24 hours and it really jumped BIG TIME to 710mah!!!  Its a 2100 mah
pack
The other pack I purchased from a hobby store cycled up close to where
it should be and has been working quite well. I asked a friend regarding
this matter and He felt one of the cells went bad.  I phoned BATTERIES
AMERICA to have someone tell me I am a big boy and I NEED to accept
REALITY, in that, its been over a year and thats that. I told them I
understand , BUT, the pack has NEVER EVER been cycled...EVER.  They
claimed that I am not being realistic, as I agreed it has been a year
BUT I am honest and have NEVER touched the battery or cycled it EVER.  I
re-coiled and stated back at them then your telling me that NONE of
your packs haven't sat on the
shelves for a year...TWO...or more??   How am I to know they didn't
ship
me a 2100 mah RX pack that hasn't been collecting dust on their shelves
for a year or two or three  He said THAT is immaterial...I asked
how?  I asked can you tell me right now that ALL your packs are LESS
than a year old and all cells used to put the packs together? He
bobbled about only to say how its NOT THE SAME POINT , its immaterial to
my point and matter and He can't state they ONLY have batteries put
together in less than 12 months.
What a joke of a company...I have had other problemss and have read some
of your guys' NIGHTMARE dealings with these people. I am the one to
blame as i should not have done any business with these people after the
humiliating conversations and lack of prodcing a product accurate with
its description and expected performance.  For a measely 20-30 bux they
lost a LOYAL and HONEST customer.

BTW...the VOLZ servos and the DS368's from Johnny Berlin fired up GREAT
and the other battery I purchased that sat around until I recovered from
my painful nightmare cycled up and is working very well.  I just don't
get it.
How petty are these people and what TERRIBLE business practices they
have. I recently sent in a $30+ servo I bought from JR that stripped out
and they replaced it with a NEW ONE...no questions asked.  How can a
2100 mah battery that was NEVER cycled by the buyer be so bad after
sitting in my drawer
awaiting my recovery?   I wonder how much people like this TIP a
WAITRESS or WAITER after dinnerhow straight-up LAME and CHEAP!
I will NEVER buy a THING from them EVER AGAIN.

Thanks for the bandwith and sorry you guys had to hear me piss moan and
groan!  :O)

For what its worth there has to be a better place to find GOOD quality
batteries at competitive pricesBATTERIES AMERICA has a serious
problem with QUALITY of some of their productsI know because THIS
is not the first time a complaint has been logged on here reporting this
kind of
situation.  What babbling idiot I sound likeyikes!   :) Thanks for
reading/listening to this pathetic story!

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Re: [RCSE] BAD VENDOR REPORT!!!!!!!!!!!! - GOOD VENDOR

2006-09-21 Thread Corey Groves

I have to second Matthew's endorsement of NOBS batteries. I have had
great service and excellent packs expertly built at a great price from
them. Never had any problems in some very tough configurations
including high-power helis with lots of vibration.
I haven't one business with Batteries America so I can't speak to any
experience with them.
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[RCSE] BAD VENDOR REPORT!!!!!!!!!!!!

2006-09-20 Thread Todd Larsen
I should have listened to a LOT of your guys' advice regarding BATTERIES
AMERICA...what a JOKE of a company.

Past experiences were nominal like wrong items shipped only to have me
ship back to wait and wait to finally get what I originally
ordered.dealing with RUDE people on their phone..receiving a couple
RX packs that didn't even SNIFF the capacity level AFTER a 24 hour charge
with my Sirius Pack former..get the runaround over the phone about NOT
PROPERLY CHARGING, etc.  Like a Dumb-dumb I keep loyal and try to give them
the benefit of the doubt.

Recently (the past 2 and 1/2 years) I have had THREE painful surgeries on my
FEET that has hampered me to do much flying...or anything at all at that.
Prior to my second operation I purchased servo's and batteries for upcoming
projects once I am back on my feet.  Well a THIRD operation was necessary,
unfortunately.and am now getting projects completed. I cycled a 2100 mah
pack , recently, which I purchased roughly a year ago and have not touched
IT or the other products like Volz servo's and another RX pack from a local
hobby store, and it cranked out a wopping 510mah after a 24 hour trickle
charge. I then re-cycled it for another 24 hours and it really jumped BIG
TIME to 710mah!!!  Its a 2100 mah pack
The other pack I purchased from a hobby store cycled up close to where it
should be and has been working quite well. I asked a friend regarding this
matter and He felt one of the cells went bad.  I phoned BATTERIES AMERICA to
have someone tell me I am a big boy and I NEED to accept REALITY, in
that, its been over a year and thats that. I told them I understand , BUT,
the pack has NEVER EVER been cycled...EVER.  They claimed that I am not
being realistic, as I agreed it has been a year BUT I am honest and have
NEVER touched the battery or cycled it EVER.  I re-coiled and stated back at
them then your telling me that NONE of your packs haven't sat on the
shelves for a year...TWO...or more??   How am I to know they didn't ship
me a 2100 mah RX pack that hasn't been collecting dust on their shelves for
a year or two or three  He said THAT is immaterial...I asked how?  I
asked can you tell me right now that ALL your packs are LESS than a year old
and all cells used to put the packs together? He bobbled about only to
say how its NOT THE SAME POINT , its immaterial to my point and matter and
He can't state they ONLY have batteries put together in less than 12 months.
What a joke of a company...I have had other problemss and have read some of
your guys' NIGHTMARE dealings with these people. I am the one to blame as i
should not have done any business with these people after the humiliating
conversations and lack of prodcing a product accurate with its description
and expected performance.  For a measely 20-30 bux they lost a LOYAL and
HONEST customer.

BTW...the VOLZ servos and the DS368's from Johnny Berlin fired up GREAT and
the other battery I purchased that sat around until I recovered from my
painful nightmare cycled up and is working very well.  I just don't get it.
How petty are these people and what TERRIBLE business practices they have. I
recently sent in a $30+ servo I bought from JR that stripped out and they
replaced it with a NEW ONE...no questions asked.  How can a 2100 mah battery
that was NEVER cycled by the buyer be so bad after sitting in my drawer
awaiting my recovery?   I wonder how much people like this TIP a
WAITRESS or WAITER after dinnerhow straight-up LAME and CHEAP!  I
will NEVER buy a THING from them EVER AGAIN.

Thanks for the bandwith and sorry you guys had to hear me piss moan and
groan!  :O)

For what its worth there has to be a better place to find GOOD quality
batteries at competitive pricesBATTERIES AMERICA has a serious problem
with QUALITY of some of their productsI know because THIS is not the
first time a complaint has been logged on here reporting this kind of
situation.  What babbling idiot I sound likeyikes!   :) Thanks for
reading/listening to this pathetic story!

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RE: [RCSE] BAD VENDOR REPORT!!!!!!!!!!!!

2006-09-20 Thread Douglas, Brent
FWIW,  I learned to fly with Dave Thacker of Radical RC here in Dayton,
and I've never had any problems with his packs, period.  

Same good luck with Diversity (flydma.com) battery packs - especially
good for high amp, high performance packs.  He really knows what you
should expect to get out of a given cell, how much of a charge you can
give the cells, etc.  

Just felt like a good time to acknowledge some of the good guys out
there (like Johnny).

Brent

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Re: [RCSE] BAD VENDOR REPORT!!!!!!!!!!!!

2006-09-20 Thread Stephen Hamm
Sometimes it takes 10 or 12 cycles for a battery to
get ramped up,especially if it's been unused for a
long time.What brand are the cells?

--- Todd Larsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I should have listened to a LOT of your guys' advice
 regarding BATTERIES
 AMERICA...what a JOKE of a company.
 
 Past experiences were nominal like wrong items
 shipped only to have me
 ship back to wait and wait to finally get what I
 originally
 ordered.dealing with RUDE people on their
 phone..receiving a couple
 RX packs that didn't even SNIFF the capacity level
 AFTER a 24 hour charge
 with my Sirius Pack former..get the runaround
 over the phone about NOT
 PROPERLY CHARGING, etc.  Like a Dumb-dumb I keep
 loyal and try to give them
 the benefit of the doubt.
 
 Recently (the past 2 and 1/2 years) I have had THREE
 painful surgeries on my
 FEET that has hampered me to do much flying...or
 anything at all at that.
 Prior to my second operation I purchased servo's and
 batteries for upcoming
 projects once I am back on my feet.  Well a THIRD
 operation was necessary,
 unfortunately.and am now getting projects
 completed. I cycled a 2100 mah
 pack , recently, which I purchased roughly a year
 ago and have not touched
 IT or the other products like Volz servo's and
 another RX pack from a local
 hobby store, and it cranked out a wopping 510mah
 after a 24 hour trickle
 charge. I then re-cycled it for another 24 hours and
 it really jumped BIG
 TIME to 710mah!!!  Its a 2100 mah pack
 The other pack I purchased from a hobby store cycled
 up close to where it
 should be and has been working quite well. I asked a
 friend regarding this
 matter and He felt one of the cells went bad.  I
 phoned BATTERIES AMERICA to
 have someone tell me I am a big boy and I NEED to
 accept REALITY, in
 that, its been over a year and thats that. I told
 them I understand , BUT,
 the pack has NEVER EVER been cycled...EVER.  They
 claimed that I am not
 being realistic, as I agreed it has been a year BUT
 I am honest and have
 NEVER touched the battery or cycled it EVER.  I
 re-coiled and stated back at
 them then your telling me that NONE of your packs
 haven't sat on the
 shelves for a year...TWO...or more??   How am I
 to know they didn't ship
 me a 2100 mah RX pack that hasn't been collecting
 dust on their shelves for
 a year or two or three  He said THAT is
 immaterial...I asked how?  I
 asked can you tell me right now that ALL your packs
 are LESS than a year old
 and all cells used to put the packs together? He
 bobbled about only to
 say how its NOT THE SAME POINT , its immaterial to
 my point and matter and
 He can't state they ONLY have batteries put together
 in less than 12 months.
 What a joke of a company...I have had other
 problemss and have read some of
 your guys' NIGHTMARE dealings with these people. I
 am the one to blame as i
 should not have done any business with these people
 after the humiliating
 conversations and lack of prodcing a product
 accurate with its description
 and expected performance.  For a measely 20-30 bux
 they lost a LOYAL and
 HONEST customer.
 
 BTW...the VOLZ servos and the DS368's from Johnny
 Berlin fired up GREAT and
 the other battery I purchased that sat around until
 I recovered from my
 painful nightmare cycled up and is working very
 well.  I just don't get it.
 How petty are these people and what TERRIBLE
 business practices they have. I
 recently sent in a $30+ servo I bought from JR that
 stripped out and they
 replaced it with a NEW ONE...no questions asked. 
 How can a 2100 mah battery
 that was NEVER cycled by the buyer be so bad after
 sitting in my drawer
 awaiting my recovery?   I wonder how much people
 like this TIP a
 WAITRESS or WAITER after dinnerhow
 straight-up LAME and CHEAP!  I
 will NEVER buy a THING from them EVER AGAIN.
 
 Thanks for the bandwith and sorry you guys had to
 hear me piss moan and
 groan!  :O)
 
 For what its worth there has to be a better place to
 find GOOD quality
 batteries at competitive pricesBATTERIES AMERICA
 has a serious problem
 with QUALITY of some of their productsI know
 because THIS is not the
 first time a complaint has been logged on here
 reporting this kind of
 situation.  What babbling idiot I sound
 likeyikes!   :) Thanks for
 reading/listening to this pathetic story!
 
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Re: [RCSE] BAD VENDOR REPORT!!!!!!!!!!!!

2006-09-20 Thread Darwin N. Barrie

Todd,

My experience with Batteries America has been just the opposite. I have 
received nothing but great service and a solid product in the many times 
I've ordered. I've also had great service from Hangtime.com on batteries. 
Most recently (two weeks ago) I ordered two packs  from BA that needed to be 
built. I ordered on Monday morning and received them on Friday.


If you did not condition the new pack soon after receiving I am not 
surprised that they were substandard.  I always charge a new pack at C/10 
for 24 hours on my Alpha 4, let it sit for a couple of days then cycle. The 
900 mah packs I purchased from BA cycled out at 1020 mah and 1049 mah.


I think you need to look in the mirror on this one. Having a pack sit for a 
year then expecting full capacity is asking a lot.


FYI, BA is a big company and turns their batteries over quickly. I'm 
confident they don't have any products that sit very long.


Darwin N. Barrie
Chandler AZ
- Original Message - 
From: Todd Larsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: soaring@airage.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 12:35 PM
Subject: [RCSE] BAD VENDOR REPORT



I should have listened to a LOT of your guys' advice regarding BATTERIES
AMERICA...what a JOKE of a company.

Past experiences were nominal like wrong items shipped only to have me
ship back to wait and wait to finally get what I originally
ordered.dealing with RUDE people on their phone..receiving a 
couple

RX packs that didn't even SNIFF the capacity level AFTER a 24 hour charge
with my Sirius Pack former..get the runaround over the phone about NOT
PROPERLY CHARGING, etc.  Like a Dumb-dumb I keep loyal and try to give 
them

the benefit of the doubt.

Recently (the past 2 and 1/2 years) I have had THREE painful surgeries on 
my

FEET that has hampered me to do much flying...or anything at all at that.
Prior to my second operation I purchased servo's and batteries for 
upcoming

projects once I am back on my feet.  Well a THIRD operation was necessary,
unfortunately.and am now getting projects completed. I cycled a 2100 
mah

pack , recently, which I purchased roughly a year ago and have not touched
IT or the other products like Volz servo's and another RX pack from a 
local

hobby store, and it cranked out a wopping 510mah after a 24 hour trickle
charge. I then re-cycled it for another 24 hours and it really jumped BIG
TIME to 710mah!!!  Its a 2100 mah pack
The other pack I purchased from a hobby store cycled up close to where 
it

should be and has been working quite well. I asked a friend regarding this
matter and He felt one of the cells went bad.  I phoned BATTERIES AMERICA 
to

have someone tell me I am a big boy and I NEED to accept REALITY, in
that, its been over a year and thats that. I told them I understand , 
BUT,

the pack has NEVER EVER been cycled...EVER.  They claimed that I am not
being realistic, as I agreed it has been a year BUT I am honest and have
NEVER touched the battery or cycled it EVER.  I re-coiled and stated back 
at

them then your telling me that NONE of your packs haven't sat on the
shelves for a year...TWO...or more??   How am I to know they didn't 
ship
me a 2100 mah RX pack that hasn't been collecting dust on their shelves 
for

a year or two or three  He said THAT is immaterial...I asked how?  I
asked can you tell me right now that ALL your packs are LESS than a year 
old

and all cells used to put the packs together? He bobbled about only to
say how its NOT THE SAME POINT , its immaterial to my point and matter and
He can't state they ONLY have batteries put together in less than 12 
months.
What a joke of a company...I have had other problemss and have read some 
of
your guys' NIGHTMARE dealings with these people. I am the one to blame as 
i

should not have done any business with these people after the humiliating
conversations and lack of prodcing a product accurate with its description
and expected performance.  For a measely 20-30 bux they lost a LOYAL and
HONEST customer.

BTW...the VOLZ servos and the DS368's from Johnny Berlin fired up GREAT 
and

the other battery I purchased that sat around until I recovered from my
painful nightmare cycled up and is working very well.  I just don't get 
it.
How petty are these people and what TERRIBLE business practices they have. 
I

recently sent in a $30+ servo I bought from JR that stripped out and they
replaced it with a NEW ONE...no questions asked.  How can a 2100 mah 
battery

that was NEVER cycled by the buyer be so bad after sitting in my drawer
awaiting my recovery?   I wonder how much people like this TIP a
WAITRESS or WAITER after dinnerhow straight-up LAME and CHEAP!  I
will NEVER buy a THING from them EVER AGAIN.

Thanks for the bandwith and sorry you guys had to hear me piss moan and
groan!  :O)

For what its worth there has to be a better place to find GOOD quality
batteries at competitive pricesBATTERIES AMERICA has a serious

Re: [RCSE] BAD VENDOR REPORT!!!!!!!!!!!!

2006-09-20 Thread Dan
So - I do you REALLY feel?DanTodd Larsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  I should have listened to a LOT of your guys' advice regarding BATTERIESAMERICA...what a JOKE of a company.Past experiences were nominal like "wrong items shipped" only to have meship back to wait and wait to finally get what I originallyordered.dealing with RUDE people on their phone..receiving a coupleRX packs that didn't even SNIFF the capacity level AFTER a 24 hour chargewith my Sirius Pack former..get the runaround over the phone about NOTPROPERLY CHARGING, etc. Like a Dumb-dumb I keep loyal and try to give themthe benefit of the doubt.Recently (the past 2 and 1/2 years) I have had THREE painful surgeries on myFEET that has hampered me to do much flying...or
 anything at all at that.Prior to my second operation I purchased servo's and batteries for upcomingprojects once I am back on my feet. Well a THIRD operation was necessary,unfortunately.and am now getting projects completed. I cycled a 2100 mahpack , recently, which I purchased roughly a year ago and have not touchedIT or the other products like Volz servo's and another RX pack from a localhobby store, and it cranked out a wopping 510mah after a 24 hour tricklecharge. I then re-cycled it for another 24 hours and it really jumped BIGTIME to 710mah!!! Its a 2100 mah packThe other pack I purchased from a hobby store cycled up "close" to where itshould be and has been working quite well. I asked a friend regarding thismatter and He felt one of the cells went bad. I phoned BATTERIES AMERICA tohave someone tell me "I am a big boy and I NEED to accept "REALITY", inthat, its been over a year and thats that." I told
 them I understand , BUT,the pack has NEVER EVER been cycled...EVER. They claimed that I am notbeing realistic, as I agreed it has been a year BUT I am honest and haveNEVER touched the battery or cycled it EVER. I re-coiled and stated back atthem "then your telling me that NONE of your packs haven't sat on theshelves for a year...TWO...or more?? How am I to know they didn't shipme a 2100 mah RX pack that hasn't been collecting dust on their shelves fora year or two or three He said "THAT is immaterial"...I asked how? Iasked can you tell me right now that ALL your packs are LESS than a year oldand all cells used to put the packs together? He bobbled about only tosay how its NOT THE SAME POINT , its immaterial to my point and matter andHe can't state they ONLY have batteries put together in less than 12 months.What a joke of a company...I have had other problemss and have read some ofyour guys' NIGHTMARE dealings
 with these people. I am the one to blame as ishould not have done any business with these people after the humiliatingconversations and lack of prodcing a product accurate with its descriptionand expected performance. For a measely 20-30 bux they lost a LOYAL andHONEST customer.BTW...the VOLZ servos and the DS368's from Johnny Berlin fired up GREAT andthe other battery I purchased that sat around until I recovered from mypainful nightmare cycled up and is working very well. I just don't get it.How petty are these people and what TERRIBLE business practices they have. Irecently sent in a $30+ servo I bought from JR that stripped out and theyreplaced it with a NEW ONE...no questions asked. How can a 2100 mah batterythat was NEVER cycled by the buyer be so bad after sitting in my drawerawaiting my recovery? I wonder how much people like this TIP aWAITRESS or WAITER after dinnerhow straight-up LAME and CHEAP!
 Iwill NEVER buy a THING from them EVER AGAIN.Thanks for the bandwith and sorry you guys had to hear me piss moan andgroan! :O)For what its worth there has to be a better place to find GOOD qualitybatteries at competitive pricesBATTERIES AMERICA has a serious problemwith "QUALITY" of some of their productsI know because THIS is not thefirst time a complaint has been logged on here reporting this kind ofsituation. What babbling idiot I sound likeyikes! :) Thanks forreading/listening to this pathetic story!RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format 
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Re: [RCSE] BAD VENDOR REPORT!!!!!!!!!!!!

2006-09-20 Thread Zb. Michalczyk

!
Hold on

I got about 1/2 dozen of this blue boxes
They are nice chargers except you do not see what they are doing for you
I have got occasionally  mishaps with batteries ( not necessary from your
bad vendor) but as soon I lost my $4000 plane in spring I got really upset
an got myself real charger.
It got all the Blue boxes under one hood
After fiddling with it for over a month I found it most reliable and
professional charger my eyes have ever seen ( they seen a lot) and I decided
to import them here
You have see it to believe it.
http://mysite.verizon.net/vze2qbfc/id19.html
No more guessing for years to come


PS. It might sound like an add, but is certainly straight from the heart,
just to let you guys know
There is a world out there and there was a plain coincidence I got hold on
this charger just month ago.
This thing is awesome
The other PS
forming is one thing
cycling is another
I was able to revitalize 80% of my batteries to full potential in a week
and record all changing performance on file
Some of them were very old and now they back in service to desk duty.



Zbigniew Michalczyk
The Soaring Little Fleet of Poland
www.LittleSoaringFleet.com
http://mysite.verizon.net/vze2qbfc/





I should have listened to a LOT of your guys' advice regarding BATTERIES
AMERICA...what a JOKE of a company.

Past experiences were nominal like wrong items shipped only to have me
ship back to wait and wait to finally get what I originally
ordered.dealing with RUDE people on their phone..receiving a 
couple

RX packs that didn't even SNIFF the capacity level AFTER a 24 hour charge
with my Sirius Pack former..get the runaround over the phone about NOT
PROPERLY CHARGING, etc.  Like a Dumb-dumb I keep loyal and try to give 
them

the benefit of the doubt.

Recently (the past 2 and 1/2 years) I have had THREE painful surgeries on 
my

FEET that has hampered me to do much flying...or anything at all at that.
Prior to my second operation I purchased servo's and batteries for 
upcoming

projects once I am back on my feet.  Well a THIRD operation was necessary,
unfortunately.and am now getting projects completed. I cycled a 2100 
mah

pack , recently, which I purchased roughly a year ago and have not touched
IT or the other products like Volz servo's and another RX pack from a 
local

hobby store, and it cranked out a wopping 510mah after a 24 hour trickle
charge. I then re-cycled it for another 24 hours and it really jumped BIG
TIME to 710mah!!!  Its a 2100 mah pack
The other pack I purchased from a hobby store cycled up close to where 
it

should be and has been working quite well. I asked a friend regarding this
matter and He felt one of the cells went bad.  I phoned BATTERIES AMERICA 
to

have someone tell me I am a big boy and I NEED to accept REALITY, in
that, its been over a year and thats that. I told them I understand , 
BUT,

the pack has NEVER EVER been cycled...EVER.  They claimed that I am not
being realistic, as I agreed it has been a year BUT I am honest and have
NEVER touched the battery or cycled it EVER.  I re-coiled and stated back 
at

them then your telling me that NONE of your packs haven't sat on the
shelves for a year...TWO...or more??   How am I to know they didn't 
ship
me a 2100 mah RX pack that hasn't been collecting dust on their shelves 
for

a year or two or three  He said THAT is immaterial...I asked how?  I
asked can you tell me right now that ALL your packs are LESS than a year 
old

and all cells used to put the packs together? He bobbled about only to
say how its NOT THE SAME POINT , its immaterial to my point and matter and
He can't state they ONLY have batteries put together in less than 12 
months.
What a joke of a company...I have had other problemss and have read some 
of
your guys' NIGHTMARE dealings with these people. I am the one to blame as 
i

should not have done any business with these people after the humiliating
conversations and lack of prodcing a product accurate with its description
and expected performance.  For a measely 20-30 bux they lost a LOYAL and
HONEST customer.

BTW...the VOLZ servos and the DS368's from Johnny Berlin fired up GREAT 
and

the other battery I purchased that sat around until I recovered from my
painful nightmare cycled up and is working very well.  I just don't get 
it.
How petty are these people and what TERRIBLE business practices they have. 
I

recently sent in a $30+ servo I bought from JR that stripped out and they
replaced it with a NEW ONE...no questions asked.  How can a 2100 mah 
battery

that was NEVER cycled by the buyer be so bad after sitting in my drawer
awaiting my recovery?   I wonder how much people like this TIP a
WAITRESS or WAITER after dinnerhow straight-up LAME and CHEAP!  I
will NEVER buy a THING from them EVER AGAIN.

Thanks for the bandwith and sorry you guys had to hear me piss moan and
groan!  :O)

For what its worth there has to be a better place to find GOOD 

Re: [RCSE] BAD VENDOR REPORT!!!!!!!!!!!!

2006-09-20 Thread Dan
"Zb. Michalczyk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:snip You have see it to believe it. http://mysite.verizon.net/vze2qbfc/id19.htmlNo more guessing for years to come snipFor $350, it better come with someone to operate it :~)Dan 

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Re: [RCSE] BAD VENDOR REPORT!!!!!!!!!!!!

2006-09-20 Thread Mark Miller
I can't confirm it here Todd. I have gotten most of my batteries from them. 
They are about  2 miles from my house so I stop by. Always pleasant and 
friendly and go out of their way to help. I had a bad cell in a Hobby store 
pack in my Evolution XL the day before I left for the NATS. I called about 5 
minutes before they closed and they stayed and built 2 packs for me. They both 
charged over the rating. Every battery I have gotten from them charged to their 
rating or over. I have used them for my camera, cell phone and iPod batteries 
too. 

Their old shop burned down about a year and a half ago now and it is good to 
see them still around. 

BTW..They don't know me or Isthmus Models from Adam. I buy retail from them 
because I like them. I have suppliers I can get batteries from cheaper but I do 
not get the service or quality from them. I'm not saying you are wrong or 
right. Just passing along my experience as you have yours.

Mark Miller

- Original Message 
From: Todd Larsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: soaring@airage.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 2:35:12 PM
Subject: [RCSE] BAD VENDOR REPORT

I should have listened to a LOT of your guys' advice regarding BATTERIES
AMERICA...what a JOKE of a company.

Past experiences were nominal like wrong items shipped only to have me
ship back to wait and wait to finally get what I originally
ordered.dealing with RUDE people on their phone..receiving a couple
RX packs that didn't even SNIFF the capacity level AFTER a 24 hour charge
with my Sirius Pack former..get the runaround over the phone about NOT
PROPERLY CHARGING, etc.  Like a Dumb-dumb I keep loyal and try to give them
the benefit of the doubt.

Recently (the past 2 and 1/2 years) I have had THREE painful surgeries on my
FEET that has hampered me to do much flying...or anything at all at that.
Prior to my second operation I purchased servo's and batteries for upcoming
projects once I am back on my feet.  Well a THIRD operation was necessary,
unfortunately.and am now getting projects completed. I cycled a 2100 mah
pack , recently, which I purchased roughly a year ago and have not touched
IT or the other products like Volz servo's and another RX pack from a local
hobby store, and it cranked out a wopping 510mah after a 24 hour trickle
charge. I then re-cycled it for another 24 hours and it really jumped BIG
TIME to 710mah!!!  Its a 2100 mah pack
The other pack I purchased from a hobby store cycled up close to where it
should be and has been working quite well. I asked a friend regarding this
matter and He felt one of the cells went bad.  I phoned BATTERIES AMERICA to
have someone tell me I am a big boy and I NEED to accept REALITY, in
that, its been over a year and thats that. I told them I understand , BUT,
the pack has NEVER EVER been cycled...EVER.  They claimed that I am not
being realistic, as I agreed it has been a year BUT I am honest and have
NEVER touched the battery or cycled it EVER.  I re-coiled and stated back at
them then your telling me that NONE of your packs haven't sat on the
shelves for a year...TWO...or more??   How am I to know they didn't ship
me a 2100 mah RX pack that hasn't been collecting dust on their shelves for
a year or two or three  He said THAT is immaterial...I asked how?  I
asked can you tell me right now that ALL your packs are LESS than a year old
and all cells used to put the packs together? He bobbled about only to
say how its NOT THE SAME POINT , its immaterial to my point and matter and
He can't state they ONLY have batteries put together in less than 12 months.
What a joke of a company...I have had other problemss and have read some of
your guys' NIGHTMARE dealings with these people. I am the one to blame as i
should not have done any business with these people after the humiliating
conversations and lack of prodcing a product accurate with its description
and expected performance.  For a measely 20-30 bux they lost a LOYAL and
HONEST customer.

BTW...the VOLZ servos and the DS368's from Johnny Berlin fired up GREAT and
the other battery I purchased that sat around until I recovered from my
painful nightmare cycled up and is working very well.  I just don't get it.
How petty are these people and what TERRIBLE business practices they have. I
recently sent in a $30+ servo I bought from JR that stripped out and they
replaced it with a NEW ONE...no questions asked.  How can a 2100 mah battery
that was NEVER cycled by the buyer be so bad after sitting in my drawer
awaiting my recovery?   I wonder how much people like this TIP a
WAITRESS or WAITER after dinnerhow straight-up LAME and CHEAP!  I
will NEVER buy a THING from them EVER AGAIN.

Thanks for the bandwith and sorry you guys had to hear me piss moan and
groan!  :O)

For what its worth there has to be a better place to find GOOD quality
batteries at competitive pricesBATTERIES AMERICA has a serious problem
with QUALITY of some

[RCSE] BAD VENDOR REPORT

2006-09-20 Thread Ed Berris
Well, I guess it's my turn also.  I too have had nothing but good service,
good products and reasonable prices from this company.

I've also had very good service and pricing from www.cheapbatterypacks.com

I'm not sure that your slam on this vendor was reasonable.
Ed

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Re: [RCSE] BAD VENDOR REPORT!!!!!!!!!!!!

2006-09-20 Thread RCSoaring


It's clear that the batteries, and or charger aren't doing what they should for the customer, and the vendor never spent time to troubleshoot the situation. There have been other posts from unhappy customers concerning Batteries America. If you're continuing to have a good business relationship with the company, keep doing business with 'em =)

I believe the reason for the original post was to serve as a warning, and to garner support from fellow modelers.

- Steve


[RCSE] BAD VENDOR REPORT-charger

2006-09-20 Thread Zb. Michalczyk


Zb. Michalczyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:snip You 
have see it to believe it. http://mysite.verizon.net/vze2qbfc/id19.html

No more guessing for years to come snip

For $350, it better come with someone to operate it :~)

 Dan




Dan!
I got the same feelings pocketing out money for it.
I did not know what to expect.
I told the story of crashing my expensive plane due  to battery failure to 
one guy an he guide me to the genuine producer of this device.
When I got slowly getting familiar with it I could not believed this thing 
is soo advanced and use friendly at the same time.

Then I start to look for comparisons
Shultze $460
Shultze with PC interface $560
some of the HonkKong stuff $200 - $300
None of them fully comparable if it comes to multifunction ability

Then I have combined all currently used chargers
Alfa 4 - I paid $250 for second hand charger ( I do not recall how much they 
used to cost new)

Robbe Infinity sold by Avoex while back $240
5 Pieces of Sirius chargers - Current prices total over $600

PULSAR 2.07  sells in Europe for 270 euro. + VAT  - that what I had paid for 
it


For piece of mind and some scientific approach it might be worth it



Zbigniew Michalczyk
The Soaring Little Fleet of Poland
www.LittleSoaringFleet.com
http://mysite.verizon.net/vze2qbfc/




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