Re: [RCSE] Ladder task for woody contests ( or any type of construction)

2006-10-11 Thread Tom Broeski
That makes a lot of sense.  You can try it out at the Woodcrafters next year 
: )


T

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Tom,

Maybe a good way to add some more spark to this event and lower the 
fatigue

factor (been there and done that) is the CD could determine a max level of
steps or a predetermined cut off and have a fly off of the top five or 
some
number of contestants.  Probably base the number to qualify for the fly 
off

on the total number of contestants.

what do you think ?


Ray Hayes
http://www.skybench.com
Home of Wood Crafters
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From: "Tom Broeski" 

To: "Ray Hayes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 2:24 PM
Subject: Re: [RCSE] Ladder task for woody contests ( or any type of
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They had it at Lancaster Woody in August, and some of the pilots were too
wiped out to come back and fly the next day for the standard TD.  It is a
great task, but can be really grueling.  I clocked nearly 5 hours of air
time to get a 31 min flight. (Object is not to fly 24.5 min of a 25 min
flight). Three minute spread would definitely be better.  Don't forget to
have a "required" lunch break to keep the pilots from killing themselves.
T
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Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 2:09 PM
Subject: [RCSE] Ladder task for woody contests ( or any type of
construction)


> Here is something different for sailplane contests that has a lot of
> flying
> time and is all about soaring, although a optional landing task can be
> included.

I prefer the three minute ladder after running the two minute ladder for 
a

couple of years at Wood Crafters





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Re: [RCSE] Ladder task for woody contests ( or any type of construction)

2006-10-11 Thread Ray Hayes
Tom,

Maybe a good way to add some more spark to this event and lower the fatigue
factor (been there and done that) is the CD could determine a max level of
steps or a predetermined cut off and have a fly off of the top five or some
number of contestants.  Probably base the number to qualify for the fly off
on the total number of contestants.

what do you think ?


Ray Hayes
http://www.skybench.com
Home of Wood Crafters
- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Broeski" 
To: "Ray Hayes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 2:24 PM
Subject: Re: [RCSE] Ladder task for woody contests ( or any type of
construction)


> They had it at Lancaster Woody in August, and some of the pilots were too
> wiped out to come back and fly the next day for the standard TD.  It is a
> great task, but can be really grueling.  I clocked nearly 5 hours of air
> time to get a 31 min flight. (Object is not to fly 24.5 min of a 25 min
> flight). Three minute spread would definitely be better.  Don't forget to
> have a "required" lunch break to keep the pilots from killing themselves.
> T
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Ray Hayes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 2:09 PM
> Subject: [RCSE] Ladder task for woody contests ( or any type of
> construction)
>
>
> > Here is something different for sailplane contests that has a lot of
> > flying
> > time and is all about soaring, although a optional landing task can be
> > included.
>
> I prefer the three minute ladder after running the two minute ladder for a
> couple of years at Wood Crafters
>
>


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Re: [RCSE] Ladder task for woody contests ( or any type of construction)

2006-10-10 Thread Tom Broeski
They had it at Lancaster Woody in August, and some of the pilots were too 
wiped out to come back and fly the next day for the standard TD.  It is a 
great task, but can be really grueling.  I clocked nearly 5 hours of air 
time to get a 31 min flight. (Object is not to fly 24.5 min of a 25 min 
flight). Three minute spread would definitely be better.  Don't forget to 
have a "required" lunch break to keep the pilots from killing themselves.

T
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From: "Ray Hayes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 2:09 PM
Subject: [RCSE] Ladder task for woody contests ( or any type of 
construction)



Here is something different for sailplane contests that has a lot of 
flying

time and is all about soaring, although a optional landing task can be
included.


I prefer the three minute ladder after running the two minute ladder for a
couple of years at Wood Crafters

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[RCSE] Ladder task for woody contests ( or any type of construction)

2006-10-10 Thread Ray Hayes
Here is something different for sailplane contests that has a lot of flying
time and is all about soaring, although a optional landing task can be
included.

Several years ago when my Wood Crafters event were just starting,  Bob
Johnson suggested a ladder task.  Somewhere I read about this type of task
and when Bob suggested it,  it really clicked in for me.  This task is now
being used by several clubs that sponsor woody contests, the main benefit is
the extreme flying time this task allows at the discretion of the pilot.
One entry per frequency is necessary to make this task work.

I prefer the three minute ladder after running the two minute ladder for a
couple of years at Wood Crafters.  On a very good thermal day and 30 or more
flyers, it takes at least reaching 27 minutes to win the event.  That
results in 2 hrs and 35 min flight time without counting the missed steps.
Any number of attempts are allowed and the flight time requirements are
consecutive, not random.

The task is easy to promote, it only takes one or two winches with
retrievers, and they will be busy.  The contestant self times, this is not
precision duration, so any flight time over the goal time is not a factor.
Self timing and one entry per frequency means everyone on the field, with
the exception of the guys running the winches, can be flying.  Scoring is
not required, the contestants card takes care of that task and in the event
of a tie, I recommend a fly off, there fun to be in and fun to watch.

The ladder task can make a great monthly club contest task because it
promotes more time in the air.

Try it, maybe it will bring more pilots to the flying field.

Ray Hayes
skybench.com
Home of Wood Crafters


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