About this landing thing,,,, You should take lessons from the Phoenix group, (CASL) landings not a problem at the SWC. Four winches and plenty of landing tapes and judges to score. SWC was a "CLASSIC." From what memory I have of Mid-South, room should not have been an issue. John RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]