Re: [RCSE] Oh What A Ride, Extra 300 That Is
Marc, Very cool Ray Hayes http://www.skybench.com Home of Wood Crafters - Original Message - From: RBurnoski [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 10:56 PM Subject: Fw: [RCSE] Oh What A Ride, Extra 300 That Is I give Gellart credit,The airshow he gave us was as good as anything Ive seen at regular airshows.I cant believe he didnt leave some stomach contents behind! He mentioned he was flying about 2500 ft . That was exactly what i guessed.Ive done some piloting too! Living on an airport and watching full sized patterns helps approxiamate altitudes. Thanks for the full sized and model show last weekend. Somebody, take that Insanity from him Richard - Original Message - From: Marc Gellart [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 10:10 PM Subject: [RCSE] Oh What A Ride, Extra 300 That Is For the purests that are discussing the LSF right now, sorry, I have to write about this. For the rest of us that are bored stiff, something to read. I work for a company that sells a lot of Klein Tools, like we are the second/third largest distributors in the U.S. Well, if you have not seen it, KT sponsors a gentleman by the name of Michael Mancuso, who lives on Long Island and flies an Extra 300 at events and many of the IRL races the KT's also has a large vested interest in. You can find info on Mike at www.mmairshow.com and you can see the ship there. Well last fall, my two direct bosses got to take about 15 minute rides each in the ship in SC and had a great time, they new I was very jealous. There time frame was short so there was no way I could get there. Well, our KT rep said that if I was going to be where Mike was this summer sometime, to let him know and he would see what he could do to get me a ride. Well, the SOAR guys Fred contest was the same weekend as the IRL race in Joliet IL and I checked to see if I could go. Well, after about a month of waiting, the Tuesday before the Fred, the call came to meet Mike at Joliet Airport on Friday at 1:00. I was there at 11:00 to make sure. About 12:15 he overflew the field and then made the approach and landed, I met them on the ramp at shutdown, his first words were, You're not ready or anything are you ? Well, duh! Well, we shot the stuff for a while talking about my flying background, RC soaring, and my father. A young man was with him and he asked Mike if he wanted the stick out of the front seat, he said no and I knew this was shaping up real well. We took off to the east, and he said, do you know where your field is that you are flying at, I said sure and he said take it and take us there. The contest was to be held west of Plainfield IL so we moved to PLF and then west and in nothing flat were over the field. Well, there were a few cars down there and I could see a winch and a ship or two on the ground, nothing in the air. I said this was the place and he said are you ready for some stuff, of course I said. There is no formal aerobatic box in the area and Mike said this was as good a place as any. Well, off we went, four point roll, immelemens, loops, full roll rate rolls, eight points, tail slides, snaps, 6G pulls all with the smoke on. My guts were going everywhere, but holding together. After what seemed like a lot of stuff, he told me to take it back and catch my breath, then he let me do a roll, and full rudder turn. Compared to the pitch and roll axis, the yaw axis took a lot of umph, the other two, you could breath that way and it was going there. The ship flies very nice and is not twitchy per se, but it definately has major authority in power and pitch and roll. After about 30 minutes of flying, he told to head back to Joliet and I figured he would take the ship somewhere along the way. We kept on going, I asked if he wanted a me to set up on a left down wind, it was an afirmative and to get to 1700' indicated pattern altitude. So I kept on trucking and when we had passed the end of the active and nothing was said, I went ahead and started a turn to base and final. About 2/3 of the way around Mike comes on a says to start feeding in some right rudder, for a slip ( a pretty major one by my experiences) and he told to me maintain 90 indicated on final approach. At this point I am still thinking he is going to take the ship finally, I have never even been close to landing a tail dragger in my life, much less land anything in years. We keep on going and at about 50' he tells to let off the rudder and start a flair and we preoceeded to make a full stall landing touching down on the tail whell first. Mike took it back when he applied the brakes an that was the end of my ride. We pulled up to the ops building and shut down, standing up and stepping off the ship was the only time I felt like I could have blown the load, but I
Re: [RCSE] Oh What A Ride, Extra 300 That Is
Great weekend for you. Congratulations on the OVSS win. That's a pretty amazing acro ride. Mancuso obviously had confidence in your ability to fly, no small task to set that plane down smoothly with no tail dragger experience. Amazing that you kept the contents of your stomach in place. I've had a couple of acro rides, and done some myself in a Citabria, so I know what you mean about the 5 to 6 hours of feeling more than slightly queezy. Thanks for sharing the story with the exchange. Barry On Sep 14, 2006, at 11:10 PM, Marc Gellart wrote: For the purests that are discussing the LSF right now, sorry, I have to write about this. For the rest of us that are bored stiff, something to read. I work for a company that sells a lot of Klein Tools, like we are the second/third largest distributors in the U.S. Well, if you have not seen it, KT sponsors a gentleman by the name of Michael Mancuso, who lives on Long Island and flies an Extra 300 at events and many of the IRL races the KT's also has a large vested interest in. You can find info on Mike at www.mmairshow.com and you can see the ship there. Well last fall, my two direct bosses got to take about 15 minute rides each in the ship in SC and had a great time, they new I was very jealous. There time frame was short so there was no way I could get there. Well, our KT rep said that if I was going to be where Mike was this summer sometime, to let him know and he would see what he could do to get me a ride. Well, the SOAR guys Fred contest was the same weekend as the IRL race in Joliet IL and I checked to see if I could go. Well, after about a month of waiting, the Tuesday before the Fred, the call came to meet Mike at Joliet Airport on Friday at 1:00. I was there at 11:00 to make sure. About 12:15 he overflew the field and then made the approach and landed, I met them on the ramp at shutdown, his first words were, You're not ready or anything are you ? Well, duh! Well, we shot the stuff for a while talking about my flying background, RC soaring, and my father. A young man was with him and he asked Mike if he wanted the stick out of the front seat, he said no and I knew this was shaping up real well. We took off to the east, and he said, do you know where your field is that you are flying at, I said sure and he said take it and take us there. The contest was to be held west of Plainfield IL so we moved to PLF and then west and in nothing flat were over the field. Well, there were a few cars down there and I could see a winch and a ship or two on the ground, nothing in the air. I said this was the place and he said are you ready for some stuff, of course I said. There is no formal aerobatic box in the area and Mike said this was as good a place as any. Well, off we went, four point roll, immelemens, loops, full roll rate rolls, eight points, tail slides, snaps, 6G pulls all with the smoke on. My guts were going everywhere, but holding together. After what seemed like a lot of stuff, he told me to take it back and catch my breath, then he let me do a roll, and full rudder turn. Compared to the pitch and roll axis, the yaw axis took a lot of umph, the other two, you could breath that way and it was going there. The ship flies very nice and is not twitchy per se, but it definately has major authority in power and pitch and roll. After about 30 minutes of flying, he told to head back to Joliet and I figured he would take the ship somewhere along the way. We kept on going, I asked if he wanted a me to set up on a left down wind, it was an afirmative and to get to 1700' indicated pattern altitude. So I kept on trucking and when we had passed the end of the active and nothing was said, I went ahead and started a turn to base and final. About 2/3 of the way around Mike comes on a says to start feeding in some right rudder, for a slip ( a pretty major one by my experiences) and he told to me maintain 90 indicated on final approach. At this point I am still thinking he is going to take the ship finally, I have never even been close to landing a tail dragger in my life, much less land anything in years. We keep on going and at about 50' he tells to let off the rudder and start a flair and we preoceeded to make a full stall landing touching down on the tail whell first. Mike took it back when he applied the brakes an that was the end of my ride. We pulled up to the ops building and shut down, standing up and stepping off the ship was the only time I felt like I could have blown the load, but I just took my time and we all proceeded to the building. It took about 5-6 hours to feel somewhat normal again, when you are not in shape for it, aero hurts a bit. We talked for a while more and then they took off for University Airport in Boling Brook where they were hangered for the weekend. After they
[RCSE] Oh What A Ride, Extra 300 That Is
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Re: [RCSE] Oh What A Ride, Extra 300 That Is
Original Message From: Marc Gellart [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] Oh What A Ride, Extra 300 That Is == Wow, what a great story. Your stomach is a lot better than mine, Bubba. I'm green with envy! RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Oh What A Ride, Extra 300 That Is
For the purests that are discussing the LSF right now, sorry, I have to write about this. For the rest of us that are bored stiff, something to read. I work for a company that sells a lot of Klein Tools, like we are the second/third largest distributors in the U.S. Well, if you have not seen it, KT sponsors a gentleman by the name of Michael Mancuso, who lives on Long Island and flies an Extra 300 at events and many of the IRL races the KT's also has a large vested interest in. You can find info on Mike at www.mmairshow.com and you can see the ship there. Well last fall, my two direct bosses got to take about 15 minute rides each in the ship in SC and had a great time, they new I was very jealous. There time frame was short so there was no way I could get there. Well, our KT rep said that if I was going to be where Mike was this summer sometime, to let him know and he would see what he could do to get me a ride. Well, the SOAR guys Fred contest was the same weekend as the IRL race in Joliet IL and I checked to see if I could go. Well, after about a month of waiting, the Tuesday before the Fred, the call came to meet Mike at Joliet Airport on Friday at 1:00. I was there at 11:00 to make sure. About 12:15 he overflew the field and then made the approach and landed, I met them on the ramp at shutdown, his first words were, You're not ready or anything are you ? Well, duh! Well, we shot the stuff for a while talking about my flying background, RC soaring, and my father. A young man was with him and he asked Mike if he wanted the stick out of the front seat, he said no and I knew this was shaping up real well. We took off to the east, and he said, do you know where your field is that you are flying at, I said sure and he said take it and take us there. The contest was to be held west of Plainfield IL so we moved to PLF and then west and in nothing flat were over the field. Well, there were a few cars down there and I could see a winch and a ship or two on the ground, nothing in the air. I said this was the place and he said are you ready for some stuff, of course I said. There is no formal aerobatic box in the area and Mike said this was as good a place as any. Well, off we went, four point roll, immelemens, loops, full roll rate rolls, eight points, tail slides, snaps, 6G pulls all with the smoke on. My guts were going everywhere, but holding together. After what seemed like a lot of stuff, he told me to take it back and catch my breath, then he let me do a roll, and full rudder turn. Compared to the pitch and roll axis, the yaw axis took a lot of umph, the other two, you could breath that way and it was going there. The ship flies very nice and is not twitchy per se, but it definately has major authority in power and pitch and roll. After about 30 minutes of flying, he told to head back to Joliet and I figured he would take the ship somewhere along the way. We kept on going, I asked if he wanted a me to set up on a left down wind, it was an afirmative and to get to 1700' indicated pattern altitude. So I kept on trucking and when we had passed the end of the active and nothing was said, I went ahead and started a turn to base and final. About 2/3 of the way around Mike comes on a says to start feeding in some right rudder, for a slip ( a pretty major one by my experiences) and he told to me maintain 90 indicated on final approach. At this point I am still thinking he is going to take the ship finally, I have never even been close to landing a tail dragger in my life, much less land anything in years. We keep on going and at about 50' he tells to let off the rudder and start a flair and we preoceeded to make a full stall landing touching down on the tail whell first. Mike took it back when he applied the brakes an that was the end of my ride. We pulled up to the ops building and shut down, standing up and stepping off the ship was the only time I felt like I could have blown the load, but I just took my time and we all proceeded to the building. It took about 5-6 hours to feel somewhat normal again, when you are not in shape for it, aero hurts a bit. We talked for a while more and then they took off for University Airport in Boling Brook where they were hangered for the weekend. After they left, I went out to the field to see if the guys were still there, you get a recording of the flight on DVD, but something like this is way better if your buds see it. Rich and Pat were there and I asked if anything cool had happened, Oh nothing much and said really, and then Rich saw me smile and he said that was you wasn't and I said yes. He said there was no way that someone that did not know about them would have done that right over their heads, and I said I wanted to let them in on my fun. Mike asked me if I had always wanted a ride in a 300 and I said honestly, NO. But I said the ride in the F-16 was probably not going
Re: [RCSE] Oh What A Ride, Extra 300 That Is
I really enjoyed this. Chuck At 10:10 PM 9/14/2006, you wrote: For the purests that are discussing the LSF right now, sorry, I have to write about this. For the rest of us that are bored stiff, something to read. I work for a company that sells a lot of Klein Tools, like we are the second/third largest distributors in the U.S. Well, if you have not seen it, KT sponsors a gentleman by the name of Michael Mancuso, who lives on Long Island and flies an Extra 300 at events and many of the IRL races the KT's also has a large vested interest in. You can find info on Mike at www.mmairshow.com and you can see the ship there. Well last fall, my two direct bosses got to take about 15 minute rides each in the ship in SC and had a great time, they new I was very jealous. There time frame was short so there was no way I could get there. Well, our KT rep said that if I was going to be where Mike was this summer sometime, to let him know and he would see what he could do to get me a ride. Well, the SOAR guys Fred contest was the same weekend as the IRL race in Joliet IL and I checked to see if I could go. Well, after about a month of waiting, the Tuesday before the Fred, the call came to meet Mike at Joliet Airport on Friday at 1:00. I was there at 11:00 to make sure. About 12:15 he overflew the field and then made the approach and landed, I met them on the ramp at shutdown, his first words were, You're not ready or anything are you ? Well, duh! Well, we shot the stuff for a while talking about my flying background, RC soaring, and my father. A young man was with him and he asked Mike if he wanted the stick out of the front seat, he said no and I knew this was shaping up real well. We took off to the east, and he said, do you know where your field is that you are flying at, I said sure and he said take it and take us there. The contest was to be held west of Plainfield IL so we moved to PLF and then west and in nothing flat were over the field. Well, there were a few cars down there and I could see a winch and a ship or two on the ground, nothing in the air. I said this was the place and he said are you ready for some stuff, of course I said. There is no formal aerobatic box in the area and Mike said this was as good a place as any. Well, off we went, four point roll, immelemens, loops, full roll rate rolls, eight points, tail slides, snaps, 6G pulls all with the smoke on. My guts were going everywhere, but holding together. After what seemed like a lot of stuff, he told me to take it back and catch my breath, then he let me do a roll, and full rudder turn. Compared to the pitch and roll axis, the yaw axis took a lot of umph, the other two, you could breath that way and it was going there. The ship flies very nice and is not twitchy per se, but it definately has major authority in power and pitch and roll. After about 30 minutes of flying, he told to head back to Joliet and I figured he would take the ship somewhere along the way. We kept on going, I asked if he wanted a me to set up on a left down wind, it was an afirmative and to get to 1700' indicated pattern altitude. So I kept on trucking and when we had passed the end of the active and nothing was said, I went ahead and started a turn to base and final. About 2/3 of the way around Mike comes on a says to start feeding in some right rudder, for a slip ( a pretty major one by my experiences) and he told to me maintain 90 indicated on final approach. At this point I am still thinking he is going to take the ship finally, I have never even been close to landing a tail dragger in my life, much less land anything in years. We keep on going and at about 50' he tells to let off the rudder and start a flair and we preoceeded to make a full stall landing touching down on the tail whell first. Mike took it back when he applied the brakes an that was the end of my ride. We pulled up to the ops building and shut down, standing up and stepping off the ship was the only time I felt like I could have blown the load, but I just took my time and we all proceeded to the building. It took about 5-6 hours to feel somewhat normal again, when you are not in shape for it, aero hurts a bit. We talked for a while more and then they took off for University Airport in Boling Brook where they were hangered for the weekend. After they left, I went out to the field to see if the guys were still there, you get a recording of the flight on DVD, but something like this is way better if your buds see it. Rich and Pat were there and I asked if anything cool had happened, Oh nothing much and said really, and then Rich saw me smile and he said that was you wasn't and I said yes. He said there was no way that someone that did not know about them would have done that right over their heads, and I said I wanted to let them in on my fun. Mike asked me if I had always wanted a ride in a 300
Re: [RCSE] Oh What A Ride, Extra 300 That Is
Sweet read, Marc. You definitely had a major magic mojo weekend with the ride, the overall Fred champ and clinching the glass eagle. Congratulations, you've earned it! Bill Wingstedt
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I give Gellart credit,The airshow he gave us was as good as anything Ive seen at regular airshows.I cant believe he didnt leave some stomach contents behind! He mentioned he was flying about 2500 ft . That was exactly what i guessed.Ive done some piloting too! Living on an airport and watching full sized patterns helps approxiamate altitudes. Thanks for the full sized and model show last weekend. Somebody, take that Insanity from him Richard - Original Message - From: Marc Gellart [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 10:10 PM Subject: [RCSE] Oh What A Ride, Extra 300 That Is For the purests that are discussing the LSF right now, sorry, I have to write about this. For the rest of us that are bored stiff, something to read. I work for a company that sells a lot of Klein Tools, like we are the second/third largest distributors in the U.S. Well, if you have not seen it, KT sponsors a gentleman by the name of Michael Mancuso, who lives on Long Island and flies an Extra 300 at events and many of the IRL races the KT's also has a large vested interest in. You can find info on Mike at www.mmairshow.com and you can see the ship there. Well last fall, my two direct bosses got to take about 15 minute rides each in the ship in SC and had a great time, they new I was very jealous. There time frame was short so there was no way I could get there. Well, our KT rep said that if I was going to be where Mike was this summer sometime, to let him know and he would see what he could do to get me a ride. Well, the SOAR guys Fred contest was the same weekend as the IRL race in Joliet IL and I checked to see if I could go. Well, after about a month of waiting, the Tuesday before the Fred, the call came to meet Mike at Joliet Airport on Friday at 1:00. I was there at 11:00 to make sure. About 12:15 he overflew the field and then made the approach and landed, I met them on the ramp at shutdown, his first words were, You're not ready or anything are you ? Well, duh! Well, we shot the stuff for a while talking about my flying background, RC soaring, and my father. A young man was with him and he asked Mike if he wanted the stick out of the front seat, he said no and I knew this was shaping up real well. We took off to the east, and he said, do you know where your field is that you are flying at, I said sure and he said take it and take us there. The contest was to be held west of Plainfield IL so we moved to PLF and then west and in nothing flat were over the field. Well, there were a few cars down there and I could see a winch and a ship or two on the ground, nothing in the air. I said this was the place and he said are you ready for some stuff, of course I said. There is no formal aerobatic box in the area and Mike said this was as good a place as any. Well, off we went, four point roll, immelemens, loops, full roll rate rolls, eight points, tail slides, snaps, 6G pulls all with the smoke on. My guts were going everywhere, but holding together. After what seemed like a lot of stuff, he told me to take it back and catch my breath, then he let me do a roll, and full rudder turn. Compared to the pitch and roll axis, the yaw axis took a lot of umph, the other two, you could breath that way and it was going there. The ship flies very nice and is not twitchy per se, but it definately has major authority in power and pitch and roll. After about 30 minutes of flying, he told to head back to Joliet and I figured he would take the ship somewhere along the way. We kept on going, I asked if he wanted a me to set up on a left down wind, it was an afirmative and to get to 1700' indicated pattern altitude. So I kept on trucking and when we had passed the end of the active and nothing was said, I went ahead and started a turn to base and final. About 2/3 of the way around Mike comes on a says to start feeding in some right rudder, for a slip ( a pretty major one by my experiences) and he told to me maintain 90 indicated on final approach. At this point I am still thinking he is going to take the ship finally, I have never even been close to landing a tail dragger in my life, much less land anything in years. We keep on going and at about 50' he tells to let off the rudder and start a flair and we preoceeded to make a full stall landing touching down on the tail whell first. Mike took it back when he applied the brakes an that was the end of my ride. We pulled up to the ops building and shut down, standing up and stepping off the ship was the only time I felt like I could have blown the load, but I just took my time and we all proceeded to the building. It took about 5-6 hours to feel somewhat normal again, when you are not in shape for it, aero hurts a bit. We talked for a while more and then they took off for University Airport in Boling Brook where they were
Re: [RCSE] Oh What A Ride, Extra 300 That Is
I agree with Bill, what a great read! I can tell that day is still playing in your head. The adrenaline buzz you must have had... I've always known to get that coveted Glass Eagle you have to go through Chicago with some success, and you did it with style. You sir have earned it, and I definitely can relate to the dedication, drive, and consistency it takes to win the OVSS. It costs a lot in more ways than one, and you paid your dues in full. Congratulations! At 10:46 PM 9/14/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sweet read, Marc. You definitely had a major magic mojo weekend with the ride, the overall Fred champ and clinching the glass eagle. Congratulations, you've earned it! Bill Wingstedt Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
