Yep. Don't think the still and the movie is from the same event! The still seems to be taken at some altitude in rather clear weather, while the F-14 is flying in less spectacular weather close to the surface! I had that F-14 mpeg before (with particulars about when it was taken), but I had hoped this mpeg was another, as it had another name (original name is F-14_1/mpeg)! Alas, wasted some money downloading it again ... Tord, Sweden -- If reply difficulties - use [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tord S. Eriksson, Ovralidsg.25:5, S-422 47 Hisings Backa, Sweden RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]