[RCSE] Re: Soaring V1 #10534

2007-12-20 Thread Ed Anderson
I believe Joe Rodriguez said it earlier.  And Darwin is right, it is time to
draw the line.  We don't need to upgrade the equipment everytime someone
comes out with a new plane.  The pilot should be able to learn to get the
most he can from the equipment at hand.

Every time you make the winches stronger and the line heavier
you FORCE people to move to stronger, more expensive planes
which takes this hobby further and further from the sport flyer.

If the current winches and line can't launch it then don't fly it!  Leave this
plane for F3J if it can't be successfully launched on the current winches.

However I would wager that, with practice, you will be able to launch just
fine.  But stepping on the pedal hard for the whole launch  may not be that
technique.

Ed Anderson
Long Island Silent Flyers
www.lisf.org

 - Original Message -=20
  From: Darwin N. Barriemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]=20
   Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 6:48 AM
  I'm sure this will be a very dynamic plane and competitive with the =
Euro models. My concern is the launching equipment. With the current =
crop of moldies, line breaks and winch bogging and ultimate failure are =
becoming more prevelant.  Heavy enough line for these new super ships, =
will be a burden for the lighter planes. Yes, I've CD'd lots of contests =
and a few big ones.

  We've tried some heavy line and it is great for the heavier planes but =
the lighter planes and 2 meters have a helluva time overcoming the line =
drag and weight.=20

  Where do we draw the line?=20

  Darwin N. Barrie
  Chandler AZ



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Re: [RCSE] Re: Soaring V1 #10534

2007-12-20 Thread Kurt Zimmerman

Bravo Ed;
  I agree with you 100%.  Much like anything else various members  
clubs move into new technology at their own pace.  Some of those are on 
the leading edge of technology and others ... well they fly woodies ;)


   With that being said if your latest creation world beater has the 
potential of breaking lines with a full-peddle launch, it is up to the 
pilot to adjust to the equipment on the field, not the equipment adjust 
to that one guy


  Makes a bunch of sense to me.

   One last thought... ever thought of penalizing someone for 
consecutive line-breaks that are clearly deemed the pilots fault?  That 
may be an extreme but one will be amazed how fast they will shape up and 
not loose any more points on consecutive line-breaks... ... wow... did I 
say that??? yup.. you bet!


Kurt



Ed Anderson wrote:
I believe Joe Rodriguez said it earlier.  And Darwin is right, it is 
time to

draw the line.  We don't need to upgrade the equipment everytime someone
comes out with a new plane.  The pilot should be able to learn to get 
the

most he can from the equipment at hand.

Every time you make the winches stronger and the line heavier
you FORCE people to move to stronger, more expensive planes
which takes this hobby further and further from the sport flyer.

If the current winches and line can't launch it then don't fly it!  
Leave this
plane for F3J if it can't be successfully launched on the current 
winches.


However I would wager that, with practice, you will be able to launch 
just
fine.  But stepping on the pedal hard for the whole launch  may not 
be that

technique.

Ed Anderson
Long Island Silent Flyers
www.lisf.org

 - Original Message -=20
  From: Darwin N. Barriemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]=20
   Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 6:48 AM
  I'm sure this will be a very dynamic plane and competitive with the =
Euro models. My concern is the launching equipment. With the current =
crop of moldies, line breaks and winch bogging and ultimate failure 
are =
becoming more prevelant.  Heavy enough line for these new super 
ships, =
will be a burden for the lighter planes. Yes, I've CD'd lots of 
contests =

and a few big ones.

  We've tried some heavy line and it is great for the heavier planes 
but =
the lighter planes and 2 meters have a helluva time overcoming the 
line =

drag and weight.=20

  Where do we draw the line?=20

  Darwin N. Barrie
  Chandler AZ



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