Bill, Yes, that is the way it is going to go in my very humble and cheap opinion. It happened in F3B, and in the typical higher performance Open class at all the major contests. I went bacK to RES and it is calmer, and less expensive, but just as rewarding. And to throw in the FIRST comment on this, you will see the flights for HLG not getting longer, but putting some other sort of other non-flying requirment on it. Much like the old TD contests that had qualification landings, the advent of you getting duration times most of the time will make it necessary for the CD to come up will some other way for people to win a contest. It WILL get down to seconds, so the TLGs may actually be balanced by JLG (javilen launched gliders) and seconds will count. We may actually see something like Free Flight that says we continually have to max until we are eliminated. In any case, I predict (and hope) the Micros may be the next challenge for those of us that look at performance and then it too will go the way of the TD contest. It would be interesting to have a class like cargo (see freeflight tasks). Thermals, Chris Adams -----Original Message----- From: Bill Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: RCSE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sunday, February 04, 2001 9:57 AM Subject: Re: Re: [RCSE] Discus throw/Maple Leaf >That's true. I'm not trying to be negative here, but are we not getting to the point where only the rich can compete, uh, competitively? > >--Bill > > > >On Sun, 4 Feb 2001 11:34:39 -0600 Pat McCleave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Eric, > >You make many valid points here about the value of the Encore. One you did >not make is that, it must be worth the price they are charging cause if you >want one the waiting list is several months out. That tells me that there >are plenty of people out there willing and ready to fork out the big bucks >to fly one. > >See Ya, > >Pat McCleave >Wichita, KS >----- Original Message ----- >From: Eric Farmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2001 10:52 AM >Subject: Re: [RCSE] Discus throw/Maple Leaf > > >> All, >> >> >> Pricey though-450.00. Yes that is 450.00!!! Thats a lot for a HLG, >> >> especially if it cant be used w/discus launch as it seems that is the >way >> to >> >> get the highest launches. >> >> First off... it can be used as a Discus launch airplane. One of the >> co-designers of the Encore, Phil Pearson, was one of the early pioneers of >> the side-arm throw. >> >> >Anybody else out there think it CRAZY to pay $450 for a less than 60" >> >span HLG? I though $250 - $300 was nuts, let alone $450. >> >> I think it is absolutely not crazy at all, even though I can't afford it, >I >> do understand why it costs what it does. >> >> The Maple Leaf airplanes are hand built, as are all of the composite >> aircraft that we fly. And not only hand built, but hand built in the US, >> where labor isn't quite as cheap as the places where our shiny molded >birds >> are made. >> >> All of the Encores are constructed with Kevlar skins and all kevlar >> fuselages. Hint: Kevlar is a horrid bitch to work with! It is a >wonderful >> material for handlaunch structures, but no one uses it on anything but >> fuselages because it is so tough to work with (AKA Time Consuming). (Also >> guys, don't forget that the materials used in these airplanes aren't >cheap) >> >> Also, the quality that the builders of the Encore put into one of their >> airplanes is wonderful... the LEs are perfect, the fuselages are >absolutely >> bulletproof and very light, and the tails are light and straight. >> >> So, if that were what went into an airplane, that I was buying, I'd have >no >> problem paying over $300, or even $350 for it. But then take into account >> that Maple Leaf takes the time to do some huge assembly steps for you. >When >> you receive the airplane, the fin is attached to the boom, the elevator >> pushrod is premade and prebent for the T-tail, and all is preinstalled >into >> the boom... oh, and the rudder is pre-hinged also! Don't forget the >precut >> and living-skin hinged flapperons, too. How many US airplanes do you know >> that can say that? >> >> I'm not saying that the airplane is cheap, or is very affordable, because >> it's not. But just like in any other business, if you want the best, you >> have to pay for it. >> >> Thermals, >> Eric Farmer >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> MLD Webmaster >> >> >> >> RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" >and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
