[RCSE] Zlog switch and whne

2008-06-28 Thread GordySoar
You timer is still using a visual connection to start the  stopwatch just as 
it is with winch launching and when you land is now up to you,  as it always 
is.
Careful with that assumption Dave, the details of how a  competition would 
work will someday have to be worked out, I suspect with 2.4 a  downlink could 
fire the clock when the motor shut down...but yawn...that's for  another day to 
worry about.
And one more time, the idea behind the Zlog Alt Motor Switch was to  find a 
replacement for winch launches for us TD guys, not to shut down, change  or 
alter the guys flight electric powered sailplanes.
 
Gordy



In a message dated 6/28/2008 10:22:17 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Altitude  limiting device is a Z-log, I believe, and with that 500 ft is 500 
ft. or  whatever height  has been selected and your time starts when the motor 
is  shut off by the device. You timer is still using a visual connection to 
start  the stopwatch just as it is with winch launching and when you land is 
now up  to you, as it always is.

Regards, Dave  Corven.


-- Original message  --
From: Lincoln Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Just read the article. To some extent, I find myself agreeing (did I 
  write that? pass the Risperdal!). However, just because Gordy and I 
  succumb to tempatation when we have an electric glider* that is getting  
 low, doesn't mean other people do. If you have the strength of will  to 
 ignore that nice power switch after the first climb is over, you  can 
 ignore what he said. But I'll admit that when there's a motor in  the 
 glider I usually won't fight out the last 50 or maybe even 100  feet. And 
 I definitely will with an unpowered glider.  So there  go all those fun 
 saves.  (I was told that on a 58 minute flight  (or was it the 60 minute 
 flight??) I was down to 20 feet at 3  minutes. I thought it was 40, but 
 that's another story. Low enough  with a 25 year old 2 meter. (hmm... is 
 this the Gordy bragging  disease too?)
 
 We have a bunch of people flying electric  gliders in our club. Some of 
 them even come home with  vinyl/brass/particle board plaques sometimes. 
 Some of them have  houses in structural overload from hanging the plaques 
 on the wall.  However, we also have a guy who is trying to start an 
 electric event  which involves old hlg's and vertical climbs. He very 
 seldom talks  about the power off part of the flight. This guy has 
 acquired my old  Chrysalis. It's very amusing to watch him launch, but it 
 ain't  soaring. He can get lots of exciting vertical drag racing because 
 the  flights don't last long. The model is, I think, two or three ounces 
  overweight, which is a lot on a Chrysalis.
 
 Anyway, Gordy  mentions an automatic motor shutoff. I think this will 
 emphasize  motor power even more, because now you have to be going Mach 
 0.5 at  motor shutoff so you can get another 1000 feet or so. Therefore 
 it  needs to link in to activate flaps or spoilers for 5 seconds or 
  something. (Perhaps activate spoilers for first 30 seconds of flight 
  above 500 feet? Total energy probe?) Once these little details are 
  worked out, I don't see why Gordy shouldn't then advocate using a 
  similar system with a releasable towhook on winch launches. That'll make  
 Histarter happy too. (for those of you who don't know my last  reference, 
 your ignorance is bliss)
 
 
  *Sailplanes are for people with bigger egos than mine. Gliders can go up  
 to, including, sometimes, 40 size power trainers that happen to be  dead 
 stick.
 
 Gordy wrote:
 
  Or you could have posted me directly to discuss it such a fun  topic   
:-) 
 Its been quite a while since I wrote that  article which is more a review  
of 
 the programmable altitude  priority motor cut off switchbut I play 
this  
 game   :-) 
  
 The context of the article is replacing winch  launches..
 
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 One more time  because I know that motor heads who have found a sailplane  
  will fit motors will want to go off on how what they do is good (and it 
IS  by  
 the way) but that has nothing to do with the context of  the 
article...replacing  
 winch launches with electric motor  launches.  
 
 So with a programmable altitude shut  off switch, TD pilots could have  
the 
 smallest and cheapest  possible motor/prop/gearbox/controller/ battery,  
versus 
  electric sailplane events where the motor  package is  priority.
   
 
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[RCSE] Zlog switch and whne ...TIME

2008-06-28 Thread GordySoar


Sorry should have put my glasses on, that  title should have been 
Zlog Switch and Time

In  a message dated 6/28/2008 1:42:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  writes:
You timer is still using a visual connection to start the stopwatch  just as 
it is with winch launching and when you land is now up to you, as it  always 
is.
Careful with that assumption Dave, the details of how a  competition would 
work will someday have to be worked out, I suspect with 2.4 a  downlink could 
fire the clock when the motor shut down...but yawn...that's for  another day to 
worry about.
And one more time, the idea behind the Zlog Alt  Motor Switch was to find a 
replacement for winch launches for us TD guys, not to  shut down, change or 
alter the guys flight electric powered  sailplanes.

Gordy






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