RE: [RCSE] emphasis on thermaling
Man-on-man and less launch altitude could emphasize flying skills, also strategy would be important. 10 gliders man-on-man in a heat would be a blast. Sort of like the duration task in F3B, only severely limit the power and height of the launches.A lot of pilots dont care to run around towing (F3J) or throw their arms out (HLG) and F3B will probably never attract a large number of participants due to cost and hassle. Smaller winches or maybe highstarts?? Smaller, lighter planes? A few more years and technology will probably decide this issue for us and anyone with a few hours practice will be able to max every time and make a 95+ landing within a second or two. -- From: Rick Brown and Jill Wiest[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 6:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] emphasis on thermaling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you de-emphasize landings you need to do something to make the flight time a better discriminator. During a contest last year, after some complaints on Saturday about the top 12 guys within 100 points of perfect, the CD obliged and the next day went to shorter launch lines and longer flight times to try to emphasis the thermaling portion of the contest. The longer times do tend to make the landing points mean less. Of course the guy who complained on Saturday was not there on Sunday to have to deal with the harder tasks brought on by his comments. No matter what though, if the lift is good, there will be a dozen guys that fly near perfect times and shoot near perfect landings all day long. It may seperate the field of flyers down thru the ranks but not the top flyers. Here on the East Coast this may work about half of the days when the lift is not consistent. It could shake up the field, but on those good lift days the longer flight times are just a bore. You fly around without trying to gain altitude and wait for the last few minutes to do your landing 'thing'. What's a CD to do? Later, RB RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [RCSE] emphasis on thermaling
Dude, HEAVIER planes! Much heavier. --- "Henke, Steve" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Smaller, lighter planes? = Dennis Phelan In a crisis, you don't rise to occasion. You sink to the level of your training. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] emphasis on thermaling
Man-on-man and less launch altitude could emphasize flying skills, also strategy would be important. OK, so your choices are F3j or F3b. Both do a good job on man-on-man soaring, but emphasize maximizing your launch altitude to gain an advantage over your competitors. After that it's flying skills and strategy. One interesting part, to be successful you need enough equipment. Contestants providing thier own equipment is the best way to do this. So everyone go out and get a winch. Sort of like the duration task in F3B, only severely limit the power and height of the launches.A lot of pilots dont care to run around towing (F3J) or throw their arms out (HLG) and F3B will probably never attract a large number of participants due to cost and hassle. I disagree on the F3b being expensive. OK, so I fly a $900+ model in F3b and I have more than one. But that is because I go to the team selection contest and having a backup model that flies exactly the same as the primary is important to me. And I want to minimize the impact of the possible loss of a model and the time it takes to optimize it's setup. I can build a competitive model for much less, but I don't have the time. I fly F3b with a few guys who enjoy doing it with used F3b models that they paid less for than your typical AMA bagged model kit. And they think they are a lot more fun to fly than a TD model. As far as F3b winches, there are some relatively inexpensive F3b winches out there. They cost less than alot of those expensive motors the power guys crash all the time. Anyone price something like a YS140 lately? You can buy a winch for less and new loads of line cost alot less than some of those fancy carbon props. A good winch battery costs about the same as a four gallon case of fuel. The only hassle I know of is all the club members who like to come out to the field and use the winch someone else carted out and set up for them. F3b winches are typically less powerful than the average AMA club winch. The models just happen to be set up better. The real reason people don't fly F3b is they don't understand and don't want to try and understand. They are comfortable doing things the way they have been doing things for the last 20 years. I'm not saying that there is anything wrong about being nostalgic about the RES model you learned to fly on. It's hard to find someone to fly F3b with in most of the country so unfortunately most have no chance to learn. Fortunately decent equipment is much easier to come by thanks to Tom at F3x, Dieter at Shredair, Rich at Chicagosky1, and Sean at Aeromodel. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
