Since I've seen folks ask occasionally. There is a winch for sale on Ebay. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=490498000 Disclaimer: I don't know the seller or the product. Jon Stone RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]