Re: [RCSE] (Gay?) Caballeros, 2.4, Attention Everyone, Including Gordy and Martin Usher
For a real, unPhotoshopped, picture try:- http://klia.net/toss/pictures/2008-04-20-TOSS-SC2/gallery/pages/DSCN0070.htm View includes both FASST and Definitely a 72MHz antenna Martin Usher PS. I don't know about the 'gay' thing, as you know there is no greater bond between two humans than that a pilot and their timer so its easy to mistake the relationship (at least for about 8 minutes). A. Real Man wrote: _http://www.sc-2.org/web/news/SC2-June06/Page16.htm_ Correction to the link mentioned below Ain't they cute! - Forwarded Message From: A. Real Man [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Sunday, June 1, 2008 10:22:57 PM Subject: 2.4, Attention Everyone, Including Gordy and Martin Usher Martin, Take a look at the following link and the 3-4 subsequent pages. Are the fellows in the orange clothing the same ones that you saw at the SC-2 contest? They seem to be a real pair to draw to! http://www.sc-2.org/web/news/SC2-Web/SC2Frames.htm --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I remember seeing the guys with the orange shirts at our (SC)2 contest (the ones covered with Futaba and FASST and the like). Worth a picture...they were quite obviously flying on 72MHz. Martin Usher PS. I fly with a Futaba radio. Works fine for me [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bill and Darwin, You know I love both you guys even though you wear those Orange shirts, and I have to concede that it is possible to do more with 14 than 12. I want to point out that the discussion was 2.4 and sailplanes, and I still feel IMHO that JR offers more flexibility and better RX's for our competition sailplanes and large scale models with multiple servos and high power requirements. I also don't often venture in to the large aerobatic arena so it would be unfair for me to comment on that phase of the hobby. I do know something about Helicopters, and have always found that JR has had the best flexibility and options for programming. Even with all the limitations of the 12X over the 14, that guy Quique somehow manages to get the 12X to do enough that he is not embarrassed to show up at a contest. Enough said I hope the Futaba is always good to you. Larry RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] (Gay?) Caballeros, 2.4, Attention Everyone, Including Gordy and Martin Usher
Martin, does that mean that the FASST system will operate on both 2.4Ghz and 72Mhz??? Wowzer, is THAT considered forward thinking or what?...(What was that LJ said about so that their FASST systems work???) All I can say is it's going to create a nightmare for me when I do the NATS launch matrix (Note to NATS Registrar: Need to find the FASST systems fast - no pun intended - going to wreak havoc is we put them in and standard 72Mhz systems in the same flight group) Good Lift and Good-Luck to all at the NATS...I'll miss being there this year! -Sheldon- -Original Message- From: Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 2:59 AM Cc: soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] (Gay?) Caballeros, 2.4, Attention Everyone, Including Gordy and Martin Usher For a real, unPhotoshopped, picture try:- http://klia.net/toss/pictures/2008-04-20-TOSS-SC2/gallery/pages/DSCN0070.htm View includes both FASST and Definitely a 72MHz antenna Martin Usher PS. I don't know about the 'gay' thing, as you know there is no greater bond between two humans than that a pilot and their timer so its easy to mistake the relationship (at least for about 8 minutes). A. Real Man wrote: _http://www.sc-2.org/web/news/SC2-June06/Page16.htm_ Correction to the link mentioned below Ain't they cute! - Forwarded Message From: A. Real Man [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Sunday, June 1, 2008 10:22:57 PM Subject: 2.4, Attention Everyone, Including Gordy and Martin Usher Martin, Take a look at the following link and the 3-4 subsequent pages. Are the fellows in the orange clothing the same ones that you saw at the SC-2 contest? They seem to be a real pair to draw to! http://www.sc-2.org/web/news/SC2-Web/SC2Frames.htm --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I remember seeing the guys with the orange shirts at our (SC)2 contest (the ones covered with Futaba and FASST and the like). Worth a picture...they were quite obviously flying on 72MHz. Martin Usher PS. I fly with a Futaba radio. Works fine for me [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bill and Darwin, You know I love both you guys even though you wear those Orange shirts, and I have to concede that it is possible to do more with 14 than 12. I want to point out that the discussion was 2.4 and sailplanes, and I still feel IMHO that JR offers more flexibility and better RX's for our competition sailplanes and large scale models with multiple servos and high power requirements. I also don't often venture in to the large aerobatic arena so it would be unfair for me to comment on that phase of the hobby. I do know something about Helicopters, and have always found that JR has had the best flexibility and options for programming. Even with all the limitations of the 12X over the 14, that guy Quique somehow manages to get the 12X to do enough that he is not embarrassed to show up at a contest. Enough said I hope the Futaba is always good to you. Larry RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] (Gay?) Caballeros, 2.4, Attention Everyone, Including Gordy and Martin Usher
Martin, does that mean that the FASST system will operate on both 2.4Ghz and 72Mhz??? No. You could actually do frequency hopping and similar techniques at 72MHz but you'd annoy all the current users (and the FCC). Techniques like FASST are similar to those that keep your (digital) cordless phone from interfering with your neighbors' phones and any WiFi that you and they are using. All radio systems do is transmit information coded on some radio frequency energy. One of the big tasks the receiver has to do is select the wanted stream of information from every other one that's out there. The original way -- and the one we've grown up with -- is by selecting the base frequency that the information is encoded around, so you 'tuned' your radio. This is now very old school; we still do it for older, legacy, equipment but its now not the way things are done, its to inefficient. One way of thinking about this is to raise the frequency of the radios up a bit until they're so high they're using visible light. (Light is the same sort of energy as radio, just a lot higher frequency.) Each frequency -- channel -- corresponds to a different color. So the radio we've grown up with is a bit like having a world where information -- say road signs -- are in different colors, with each person (or group of people) having to use a color filter to pick what they want to see out of what would otherwise be a lot of white light. Of course, we don't do that in the real world. We use a mixture of color, shape and animation to make a message stand out; this is our world so we don't think its anything special. All that's happening with the radios is that they're getting smart enough to use similar techniques. The orange shirts thing is just a joke -- a playful dig; the idea is that if you're wearing a shirt advertising a wonder product then you really should be using same, not the product its supposed to be superseding. Martin Usher Sheldon Smith wrote: Martin, does that mean that the FASST system will operate on both 2.4Ghz and 72Mhz??? Wowzer, is THAT considered forward thinking or what?...(What was that LJ said about so that their FASST systems work???) All I can say is it's going to create a nightmare for me when I do the NATS launch matrix (Note to NATS Registrar: Need to find the FASST systems fast - no pun intended - going to wreak havoc is we put them in and standard 72Mhz systems in the same flight group) Good Lift and Good-Luck to all at the NATS...I'll miss being there this year! -Sheldon- -Original Message- From: Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 2:59 AM Cc: soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] (Gay?) Caballeros, 2.4, Attention Everyone, Including Gordy and Martin Usher For a real, unPhotoshopped, picture try:- http://klia.net/toss/pictures/2008-04-20-TOSS-SC2/gallery/pages/DSCN0070.htm View includes both FASST and Definitely a 72MHz antenna Martin Usher PS. I don't know about the 'gay' thing, as you know there is no greater bond between two humans than that a pilot and their timer so its easy to mistake the relationship (at least for about 8 minutes). A. Real Man wrote: _http://www.sc-2.org/web/news/SC2-June06/Page16.htm_ Correction to the link mentioned below Ain't they cute! - Forwarded Message From: A. Real Man [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Sunday, June 1, 2008 10:22:57 PM Subject: 2.4, Attention Everyone, Including Gordy and Martin Usher Martin, Take a look at the following link and the 3-4 subsequent pages. Are the fellows in the orange clothing the same ones that you saw at the SC-2 contest? They seem to be a real pair to draw to! http://www.sc-2.org/web/news/SC2-Web/SC2Frames.htm --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I remember seeing the guys with the orange shirts at our (SC)2 contest (the ones covered with Futaba and FASST and the like). Worth a picture...they were quite obviously flying on 72MHz. Martin Usher PS. I fly with a Futaba radio. Works fine for me [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bill and Darwin, You know I love both you guys even though you wear those Orange shirts, and I have to concede that it is possible to do more with 14 than 12. I want to point out that the discussion was 2.4 and sailplanes, and I still feel IMHO that JR offers more flexibility and better RX's for our competition sailplanes and large scale models with multiple servos and high power requirements. I also don't often venture in to the large aerobatic arena so it would be unfair for me to comment on that phase of the hobby. I do know something about Helicopters, and have always found that JR has had the best flexibility and options for programming. Even with all the limitations of the 12X over the 14, that guy Quique somehow manages to get the 12X to do enough that he is not embarrassed
RE: [RCSE] (Gay?) Caballeros, 2.4, Attention Everyone, Including Gordy and Martin Usher
Sheldon, There are many transmitters that can work on both 2.4 and 72 MHz and many can operate on 50, 40 and 35 MHz too. Most module based radio systems can be switched to alternate frequency bands. I have a Futaba 9C, originally on 72 MHz that can now operate on Spektrum 2.4 or be switched back to 72 MHz by swapping the module. This is similar to swapping 72 MHz channel modules or changing your 72 MHz system to 40 or 35 MHz so you can fly in Europe. Both Futaba and JR make module based versions of their hi-end 2.4 GHz systems that can be switched to 72 MHz, by design. So there is nothing unique about this capability in terms of Futaba or FASST systems. XPS, ASSAN and Spektrum make module versions of their 2.4 GHz transmission section that can go in other brands of transmitters. Best regards, Ed Anderson Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 09:03:25 -0400 From: Sheldon Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Martin' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: soaring@airage.com Subject: RE: [RCSE] (Gay?) Caballeros, 2.4, Attention Everyone, Including Gordy and Martin Usher Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Martin, does that mean that the FASST system will operate on both 2.4Ghz and 72Mhz??? Wowzer, is THAT considered forward thinking or what?...(What was that LJ said about so that their FASST systems work???) All I can say is it's going to create a nightmare for me when I do the NATS launch matrix (Note to NATS Registrar: Need to find the FASST systems fast - no pun intended - going to wreak havoc is we put them in and standard 72Mhz systems in the same flight group) Good Lift and Good-Luck to all at the NATS...I'll miss being there this year! -Sheldon- -Original Message- From: Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 2:59 AM Cc: soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] (Gay?) Caballeros, 2.4, Attention Everyone, Including Gordy and Martin Usher For a real, unPhotoshopped, picture try:- http://klia.net/toss/pictures/2008-04-20-TOSS-SC2/gallery/pages/DSCN0070.htm View includes both FASST and Definitely a 72MHz antenna Martin Usher PS. I don't know about the 'gay' thing, as you know there is no greater bond between two humans than that a pilot and their timer so its easy to mistake the relationship (at least for about 8 minutes). A. Real Man wrote: _http://www.sc-2.org/web/news/SC2-June06/Page16.htm_ Correction to the link mentioned below Ain't they cute! - Forwarded Message From: A. Real Man [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Sunday, June 1, 2008 10:22:57 PM Subject: 2.4, Attention Everyone, Including Gordy and Martin Usher Martin, Take a look at the following link and the 3-4 subsequent pages. Are the fellows in the orange clothing the same ones that you saw at the SC-2 contest? They seem to be a real pair to draw to! http://www.sc-2.org/web/news/SC2-Web/SC2Frames.htm --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I remember seeing the guys with the orange shirts at our (SC)2 contest (the ones covered with Futaba and FASST and the like). Worth a picture...they were quite obviously flying on 72MHz. Martin Usher PS. I fly with a Futaba radio. Works fine for me [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bill and Darwin, You know I love both you guys even though you wear those Orange shirts, and I have to concede that it is possible to do more with 14 than 12. I want to point out that the discussion was 2.4 and sailplanes, and I still feel IMHO that JR offers more flexibility and better RX's for our competition sailplanes and large scale models with multiple servos and high power requirements. I also don't often venture in to the large aerobatic arena so it would be unfair for me to comment on that phase of the hobby. I do know something about Helicopters, and have always found that JR has had the best flexibility and options for programming. Even with all the limitations of the 12X over the 14, that guy Quique somehow manages to get the 12X to do enough that he is not embarrassed to show up at a contest. Enough said I hope the Futaba is always good to you. Larry RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format -- End of Soaring V1 #11268 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL
