Re: [RCSE] RES Skegs

2000-01-27 Thread Tim McCann

Hi Dave:
I remember that incident. As I remember the injury was caused by the
metal hardware on a name tag on the victim's (Dave London?) hat.
The plane came in hot and slid through the landing zone, flared up and
grazed the victims hat causing a pretty bloody cut. The plane didn't have
a skeg or very aggressive teeth.
Tim


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Date: Thursday, January 27, 2000 9:55 AM
Subject: Re: [RCSE] RES  Skegs


Mike, sems to me that a few years ago at the Fall Soaring Festival,  a guy
from Sacramento hed the side of his head opened up, either by a skeg or
nose protruberances, not certain which.
Another post from another flyer calls not using skegs "dumb".  Well, I
guess
that the rest of the world is "dumb".  And, if they are, why do the top US
fliers  buy and fly European planes?
No more responses from me.  This issue is just causing polarization.
Dave Darling

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RE: [RCSE] RES Skegs

2000-01-27 Thread Joe Rodriguez

Dave, I have been flying the Fall Soaring Fest for the last ten years, and I
do not recall an incident like the one you described. I do recall many
ankles, and legs, hit by non skaged gliders sliding threw the landing area
and have yet to see a severe injury due directly to a skag. I do recall Don
Vickers and Marshal Searcy being struck and knocked down by a glider flying
threw
the landing zone, Don was a young 69 and Marshal just had bypass surgery.
What I report here is fact and first hand information and anything else that
I do not know is speculation and not reported on RCSE. Contest people need
to make decisions for contest people there seems to be many non and anti
contest people giving there opinions in an area where they do not
participate. This is a problem when real and workable rules need to be
ironed out. I guess I have spoken my peace
this forum is a place to discuss such issues but if your a non contest
person remember your opinion can be fuel to the fire of trying have a
organized set of rules for RES a performance challenged class that I stay
away from.
joe rodriguez


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From: Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2000 7:41 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mike Stump
Subject: Re: [RCSE] RES  Skegs


Mike, sems to me that a few years ago at the Fall Soaring Festival,  a guy
from Sacramento hed the side of his head opened up, either by a skeg or
nose protruberances, not certain which.
Another post from another flyer calls not using skegs "dumb".  Well, I guess
that the rest of the world is "dumb".  And, if they are, why do the top US
fliers  buy and fly European planes?
No more responses from me.  This issue is just causing polarization.
Dave Darling

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Re: [RCSE] RES Skegs

2000-01-27 Thread Dennis Phelan

Greetings,
Are you, deep down inside, hoping that the ones with the itsy bitsy
landing zones and skegs whould change to what the rest of the world
has? I don't think it would hurt. Might mmake for a few interesting
fly offs!

--- Mike Stump [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 2 issues, landing tasks... the rest of the world uses the FAI tape,
 1 meter
 radius for 100 points... maybe someday they'll come up to speed
 with a
 better landing test..
  Mike Stump



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Re: [RCSE] RES Skegs

2000-01-27 Thread Rick Wardrop

From: "Rick Eckel" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
snip
 Of course my opinion is that not using a skeg for a task with a precision
 landing is "dumb".

It may be dumb if everyone else is using one and you aren't, but if no one
uses one..?

The top pilots will get the top scores no matter what the rules.  Good
losers will find ways to become better pilots.  Others will look for ways to
change the contest to their perceived advantage and will be frustrated when
they still lose to the top pilots.

This started as a discussion of skegs on RES planes and degenerated into a
general skeg argument.  Open class planes are allowed a lot of things that
RES prohibits.  Let the "open" class stay open with skegs if desired, and
let the RES class stay simple without skegs.

Rick,

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