Re: [RCSE] Experience with cellular phones ...

2000-05-08 Thread Ralph Weaver

Proof.  Based on testing and a detailed analysis.

\At 11:01 AM 5/6/00 -0700, you wrote:
No? is that a claim or a proof?

YK

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  At 11:23 AM 5/6/00 , you wrote:
   From what I gathered here so far, PCM enters into fail safe mode much
  sooner than a PPM under equal Signal to Interference Ratio. It may seem
as
  something undesirable, regardless of what feature is available into safe
  mode.
 
  No, PPM goes into berserk mode long before a PCM radio will go into
  hold.  And both radios will come back under control about the same
  time.  PCM radios typically have a frame rate that is about 10msec slower
  than PPM radios.
 
 
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Re: [RCSE] Experience with cellular phones ...

2000-05-04 Thread Y.K.Chan

I presume Tord's phone operates under GSM system. That maximum peak power
in principle is 3X of what is in most cell phone in the US. The legal RC
channel frequency is about half of what is in the US.  Those are the two
differences.  The best way is to ground range or bench test with the cell
phone turned on from time to time. The next time a cell phone in operation
can be some one else, inadvertently.   Dealing with the problem is better
than running away from it.
YK Chan
in Seattle.

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Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2000 12:25 PM
Subject: [RCSE] Experience with cellular phones ...


 Dear Ken,

 Just a short note on the dangers of mixing mobile phones and
 electric flight. I had a powered Studio 'B' Avro Vulcan in my
 lap, powered by a Kyosho car motor, and a 8:1 Graupner gear box
 and a seven cell RC2000 pack. It was not running or anything,
 but it was armed when I decided to make a call on phone, and
 as soon as I had dialed the number the engine started to run
 at full speed! With the tx on one side of me (it was on) and
 the plane in my lap I never would have thought it could run
 like that. Happily, for this event at least, the prop collet
 was loose on the shaft, so I was not damaged, just scared and
 puzzled.

 The ESC was one of those ultra-safe Gordon Tarling speed
 controls, that you have to arm by throttling fully up and then
down
 before they start the motor. It had been armed, but I would never
 have guessed that it would run when the cellular tried to contact
 the nearest repeater.

 Further testing showed the transmitter to be totally unaffected
 (it was a Graupner mc-15 - a close relative to the JR computer
radios)
 but getting the cellular's antenna close to any metal part of the
 rx, the wiring or the pushrods set the motor off again! This with
 the rubber duckie antenna on the tx in place and just two feet
away!

 So while the tx passed with flying colours the kit-built rx did
not!
 I guess any rx would have similar problems - glad that the tx
seems
 OK with phones ;-)!

 So do turn off your cellular before playing with your models. Had
this
 been a big model with one of my Aveoxes, god knows if I've been
around
 now!

 We had 28+ C last week, pretty fair for March in Sweden!

 Safe flying!

 Tord,
 Sweden

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