Re: [Soekris] 4G CF limitation on 45xx and 48xx?
On Mon, Mar 03, 2008 at 09:03:51PM -0800, Jon Hart wrote: As listed on the products page of soekris.com, the 45xx and 48xx series devices that accept compact flash only appear to support up to 4G disks, whereas the newer 5501 supports up to 32. Is this actually the case here, or can 45xx and 48xx happily accept 4G? I'm hoping that this is just a case of old documentation, as when the 45xx and 48xx came out, I don't even believe there was a CF 4G. I ask because I have 4801 and a 4511 and am looking to transfer some things off a heat belching SFF desktop, and was hoping to not to have to buy another Soekris just to support 4G. Thats not to say that I wouldn't like to have a 5501, but... As an alternative may I suggest plugging a USB flash drive into the USB slot of the 4801? Cheers, Jonathan ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] CF devices as swap?
On Tue, Mar 04, 2008 at 05:36:37PM +1100, Malcolm Herbert wrote: I've recently re-discovered the CF disk that came with my net4801 and was wondering what use it would be as a swap device ... I'm aware of the fact that CF media doesn't last indefinately, but I'd be interested in hearing whether others had tried this and how long it lasted before giving problems ... unfortunately swap problems are generally fatal, so I may just decide to stick with swap on the attached HDD ... I have been using an MMC for swap in a Nokia 770 for almost two years without trouble, and the N810 I got yesterday has an internal SD card with swap. I think it is fine unless you thrash the swap constantly, which will be awfully slow anyway. -- Jussi Peltolac ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] 4G CF limitation on 45xx and 48xx?
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jonathan Groll writes: On Mon, Mar 03, 2008 at 09:03:51PM -0800, Jon Hart wrote: As listed on the products page of soekris.com, the 45xx and 48xx series devices that accept compact flash only appear to support up to 4G disks, whereas the newer 5501 supports up to 32. Is this actually the case here, or can 45xx and 48xx happily accept 4G? I'm hoping that this is just a case of old documentation, as when the 45xx and 48xx came out, I don't even believe there was a CF 4G. I ask because I have 4801 and a 4511 and am looking to transfer some things off a heat belching SFF desktop, and was hoping to not to have to buy another Soekris just to support 4G. Thats not to say that I wouldn't like to have a 5501, but... I have an 8GB card I can try to test it in a few hours. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] 4G CF limitation on 45xx and 48xx?
On Mon, Mar 03, 2008 at 09:03:51PM -0800, Jon Hart wrote: As listed on the products page of soekris.com, the 45xx and 48xx series devices that accept compact flash only appear to support up to 4G disks, whereas the newer 5501 supports up to 32. Is this actually the case here, or can 45xx and 48xx happily accept 4G? I'm hoping that this is just a case of old documentation, as when the 45xx and 48xx came out, I don't even believe there was a CF 4G. I ask because I have 4801 and a 4511 and am looking to transfer some things off a heat belching SFF desktop, and was hoping to not to have to buy another Soekris just to support 4G. Thats not to say that I wouldn't like to have a 5501, but... I would assume it would work, isn't it just wired to the same ATA controller which supports bigger HDs? ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
[Soekris] 48xx getting the bios to retry pxe every 30 s?
I have this setup where the soekris is netbooted from some tftp/nfs server. problem is, the soekris is much faster than said server to reboot when power cycles for some reason (blame the electricity utility). I'd like to setup the bios to retry pxe boot forever every 30s or so until it works... would it be possible ? ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] CF devices as swap?
On Tue, Mar 04, 2008 at 10:22:48AM +0200, Jussi Peltola wrote: |On Tue, Mar 04, 2008 at 05:36:37PM +1100, Malcolm Herbert wrote: | I've recently re-discovered the CF disk that came with my net4801 and | was wondering what use it would be as a swap device ... I'm aware of | the fact that CF media doesn't last indefinately, but I'd be interested | in hearing whether others had tried this and how long it lasted before | giving problems ... | | unfortunately swap problems are generally fatal, so I may just decide | to stick with swap on the attached HDD ... | |I have been using an MMC for swap in a Nokia 770 for almost two years |without trouble, and the N810 I got yesterday has an internal SD card |with swap. I think it is fine unless you thrash the swap constantly, |which will be awfully slow anyway. ... would it be quicker than the internal hdd I already have? HTS548080M9AT00 (Hitachi 80GB TravelStar 2.5-Inch 5400RPM) -- Malcolm HerbertThis brain intentionally [EMAIL PROTECTED]left blank ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] CF devices as swap?
On Tue, Mar 04, 2008 at 08:06:27PM +1100, Malcolm Herbert wrote: ... would it be quicker than the internal hdd I already have? HTS548080M9AT00 (Hitachi 80GB TravelStar 2.5-Inch 5400RPM) Probably. Small writes are slow on flash, random reads might be faster but swap partitions are small so the accesses won't be that far from each other. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] 4G CF limitation on 45xx and 48xx?
On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 1:03 PM, Jon Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As listed on the products page of soekris.com, the 45xx and 48xx series devices that accept compact flash only appear to support up to 4G disks, whereas the newer 5501 supports up to 32. Is this actually the case here, or can 45xx and 48xx happily accept 4G? I'm hoping that this is just a case of old documentation, as when the 45xx and 48xx came out, I don't even believe there was a CF 4G. I ask because I have 4801 and a 4511 and am looking to transfer some things off a heat belching SFF desktop, and was hoping to not to have to buy another Soekris just to support 4G. Thats not to say that I wouldn't like to have a 5501, but... I used to have an 8GB card in my net4801. It worked fine until I replaced it with a 2GB and stuck it in my camera instead. Jason -- The first step in inventing anything new is to forget what you know already. -WSB, Firecracker (Port of Saints) ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
[Soekris] Gigabit on 5501-70?
Hi I want to use a 5501-70 in its default case as a firewall and lightweight fileserver (samba) running OpenBSD. I'd like to have have a gigabit connection to the main network. Does anyone have a recommendation for a gigabit card that is known to work (and fit in the case)? Many thanks John Cox ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Soekris-tech Digest, Vol 49, Issue 6
Hi John, We have been running a pair of 5501s with INTEL PRO/1000 GT QUAD PORTSERVER ADAPTER PWLA8494GT for 6 months+ without any problems, except that we get Nordic Power 12V/2.5A supplies for them as the one we got from Soekris was getting a bit warm. I don't have the numbers here but they were fast enough for our use. Best regards, Goran L --On March 4, 2008 12:00:12 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008 11:31:18 + From: John Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Soekris] Gigabit on 5501-70? To: soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi I want to use a 5501-70 in its default case as a firewall and lightweight fileserver (samba) running OpenBSD. I'd like to have have a gigabit connection to the main network. Does anyone have a recommendation for a gigabit card that is known to work (and fit in the case)? Many thanks John Cox -- ... the future isMobile Goran Lowkrantz [EMAIL PROTECTED] System Architect, iaMobile AB Sandviksgatan 81, PO Box 58, S-971 03 Luleå, Sweden Mobile: +46(0)70-587 87 82 http://www.ismobile.com ... ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Gigabit on 5501-70?
You might give a try to good Eth card, like Intel one, that do a lot of work (like checksumming) in hardware, while realtek chips often wait for the processor to do that. In that case, the Geode certainly won't be powerfull enough... Regards, On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 12:31 PM, John Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I want to use a 5501-70 in its default case as a firewall and lightweight fileserver (samba) running OpenBSD. I'd like to have have a gigabit connection to the main network. Does anyone have a recommendation for a gigabit card that is known to work (and fit in the case)? Many thanks John Cox ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Gigabit on 5501-70?
Hi Thanks all. I'll give the Intel 1000 GT a go. JC On Mar 4, 2008, at 5:31 AM, John Cox wrote: Hi I want to use a 5501-70 in its default case as a firewall and lightweight fileserver (samba) running OpenBSD. I'd like to have have a gigabit connection to the main network. Does anyone have a recommendation for a gigabit card that is known to work (and fit in the case)? Many thanks John Cox I have been using a net5501-70 with an Intel Pro 1000 GT PCI card, using m0n0wall (FreeBSD) with good results. The card fits like a glove. You have to remove the 5501 board, connect the 1000 GT NIC, and then slide everything into the back panel of the case, re-attach the 5501 board. I did some quick throughput tests a few months back: http://forum.m0n0.ch/index.php/topic,875.msg3306.html#msg3306 Recommended. Lonnie ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Gigabit on 5501-70?
nicodache wrote: You might give a try to good Eth card, like Intel one, that do a lot of work (like checksumming) in hardware, while realtek chips often wait for the processor to do that. In that case, the Geode certainly won't be powerfull enough... It's 32bit 33mhz pci, it will be faster than a 100Mb/s nic but it won't approach the performance of a gig nic in a pci-x or pci-e slot. If it's being used for convenience purposes or to squeeze out a bit more performance there's no reason not to do it. From a pure throughput perspective you would be disappointed. Regards, On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 12:31 PM, John Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I want to use a 5501-70 in its default case as a firewall and lightweight fileserver (samba) running OpenBSD. I'd like to have have a gigabit connection to the main network. Does anyone have a recommendation for a gigabit card that is known to work (and fit in the case)? Many thanks John Cox ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] 4G CF limitation on 45xx and 48xx?
On Tue, Mar 04, 2008 at 09:28:13PM +1300, Steve Holdoway wrote: As an alternative may I suggest plugging a USB flash drive into the USB slot of the 4801? except that it's usb 1.1 isn't it? It is USB 1.1, so I'd be stuck with 12Mbit/s. I guess it would warrant testing. -jon ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] 4G CF limitation on 45xx and 48xx?
Jon Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is this actually the case here, or can 45xx and 48xx happily accept 4G? I'm hoping that this is just a case of old documentation, as when the 45xx and 48xx came out, I don't even believe there was a CF 4G. there's 16GB CF and 32GB CF available these days ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] 4G CF limitation on 45xx and 48xx?
Hi Jon List, Jon Hart wrote: As listed on the products page of soekris.com, the 45xx and 48xx series devices that accept compact flash only appear to support up to 4G disks, whereas the newer 5501 supports up to 32. Is this actually the case here, or can 45xx and 48xx happily accept 4G? I'm hoping that this is just a case of old documentation, as when the 45xx and 48xx came out, I don't even believe there was a CF 4G. I ask because I have 4801 and a 4511 and am looking to transfer some things off a heat belching SFF desktop, and was hoping to not to have to buy another Soekris just to support 4G. Thats not to say that I wouldn't like to have a 5501, but... Old docs, just removed those old texts :-) Currently there is a 128 Gbyte limit on all ATA devices on all boards, but that's just a BIOS limit for booting, you should be able to use larger devices as long as you have you boot partition below 128 Gbyte. Best Regards, Soren Kristensen CEO Chief Engineer Soekris Engineering, Inc. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] 48xx getting the bios to retry pxe every 30 s?
Raphaël Jacquot wrote: I have this setup where the soekris is netbooted from some tftp/nfs server. problem is, the soekris is much faster than said server to reboot when power cycles for some reason (blame the electricity utility). I'd like to setup the bios to retry pxe boot forever every 30s or so until it works... would it be possible ? You could have a CF card that does nothing but reboot the box (causing it to subsequently attempt a PXE boot), no? Jordan ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech