Re: [Soekris] 4G CF limitation on 45xx and 48xx?

2008-03-04 Thread Jonathan Groll
On Mon, Mar 03, 2008 at 09:03:51PM -0800, Jon Hart wrote:
 As listed on the products page of soekris.com, the 45xx and 48xx series
 devices that accept compact flash only appear to support up to 4G disks,
 whereas the newer 5501 supports up to 32.  
 
 Is this actually the case here, or can 45xx and 48xx happily accept
  4G?  I'm hoping that this is just a case of old documentation, as when
 the 45xx and 48xx came out, I don't even believe there was a CF  4G.
 
 I ask because I have 4801 and a 4511 and am looking to transfer some
 things off a heat belching SFF desktop, and was hoping to not to have to
 buy another Soekris just to support  4G.  Thats not to say that
 I wouldn't like to have a 5501, but...
 

As an alternative may I suggest plugging a USB flash drive into the
USB slot of the 4801?

Cheers,
Jonathan
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Re: [Soekris] CF devices as swap?

2008-03-04 Thread Jussi Peltola
On Tue, Mar 04, 2008 at 05:36:37PM +1100, Malcolm Herbert wrote:
 I've recently re-discovered the CF disk that came with my net4801 and
 was wondering what use it would be as a swap device ... I'm aware of
 the fact that CF media doesn't last indefinately, but I'd be interested
 in hearing whether others had tried this and how long it lasted before
 giving problems ... 
 
 unfortunately swap problems are generally fatal, so I may just decide
 to stick with swap on the attached HDD ... 

I have been using an MMC for swap in a Nokia 770 for almost two years
without trouble, and the N810 I got yesterday has an internal SD card
with swap. I think it is fine unless you thrash the swap constantly,
which will be awfully slow anyway.

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Re: [Soekris] 4G CF limitation on 45xx and 48xx?

2008-03-04 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jonathan Groll writes:
On Mon, Mar 03, 2008 at 09:03:51PM -0800, Jon Hart wrote:
 As listed on the products page of soekris.com, the 45xx and 48xx series
 devices that accept compact flash only appear to support up to 4G disks,
 whereas the newer 5501 supports up to 32.  
 
 Is this actually the case here, or can 45xx and 48xx happily accept
  4G?  I'm hoping that this is just a case of old documentation, as when
 the 45xx and 48xx came out, I don't even believe there was a CF  4G.
 
 I ask because I have 4801 and a 4511 and am looking to transfer some
 things off a heat belching SFF desktop, and was hoping to not to have to
 buy another Soekris just to support  4G.  Thats not to say that
 I wouldn't like to have a 5501, but...

I have an 8GB card I can try to test it in a few hours.

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Re: [Soekris] 4G CF limitation on 45xx and 48xx?

2008-03-04 Thread Jussi Peltola
On Mon, Mar 03, 2008 at 09:03:51PM -0800, Jon Hart wrote:
 As listed on the products page of soekris.com, the 45xx and 48xx series
 devices that accept compact flash only appear to support up to 4G disks,
 whereas the newer 5501 supports up to 32.  
 
 Is this actually the case here, or can 45xx and 48xx happily accept
  4G?  I'm hoping that this is just a case of old documentation, as when
 the 45xx and 48xx came out, I don't even believe there was a CF  4G.
 
 I ask because I have 4801 and a 4511 and am looking to transfer some
 things off a heat belching SFF desktop, and was hoping to not to have to
 buy another Soekris just to support  4G.  Thats not to say that
 I wouldn't like to have a 5501, but...

I would assume it would work, isn't it just wired to the same ATA
controller which supports bigger HDs?
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[Soekris] 48xx getting the bios to retry pxe every 30 s?

2008-03-04 Thread Raphaël Jacquot
I have this setup where the soekris is netbooted from some tftp/nfs server.
problem is, the soekris is much faster than said server to reboot when 
power cycles for some reason (blame the electricity utility).
I'd like to setup the bios to retry pxe boot forever every 30s or so 
until it works...
would it be possible ?
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Re: [Soekris] CF devices as swap?

2008-03-04 Thread Malcolm Herbert
On Tue, Mar 04, 2008 at 10:22:48AM +0200, Jussi Peltola wrote:
|On Tue, Mar 04, 2008 at 05:36:37PM +1100, Malcolm Herbert wrote:
| I've recently re-discovered the CF disk that came with my net4801 and
| was wondering what use it would be as a swap device ... I'm aware of
| the fact that CF media doesn't last indefinately, but I'd be interested
| in hearing whether others had tried this and how long it lasted before
| giving problems ... 
| 
| unfortunately swap problems are generally fatal, so I may just decide
| to stick with swap on the attached HDD ... 
|
|I have been using an MMC for swap in a Nokia 770 for almost two years
|without trouble, and the N810 I got yesterday has an internal SD card
|with swap. I think it is fine unless you thrash the swap constantly,
|which will be awfully slow anyway.

... would it be quicker than the internal hdd I already have?

HTS548080M9AT00 (Hitachi 80GB TravelStar 2.5-Inch 5400RPM)

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Re: [Soekris] CF devices as swap?

2008-03-04 Thread Jussi Peltola
On Tue, Mar 04, 2008 at 08:06:27PM +1100, Malcolm Herbert wrote:
 ... would it be quicker than the internal hdd I already have?
 
 HTS548080M9AT00 (Hitachi 80GB TravelStar 2.5-Inch 5400RPM)

Probably. Small writes are slow on flash, random reads might be faster
but swap partitions are small so the accesses won't be that far from
each other.
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Re: [Soekris] 4G CF limitation on 45xx and 48xx?

2008-03-04 Thread Jason Wright
On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 1:03 PM, Jon Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 As listed on the products page of soekris.com, the 45xx and 48xx series
  devices that accept compact flash only appear to support up to 4G disks,
  whereas the newer 5501 supports up to 32.

  Is this actually the case here, or can 45xx and 48xx happily accept
   4G?  I'm hoping that this is just a case of old documentation, as when
  the 45xx and 48xx came out, I don't even believe there was a CF  4G.

  I ask because I have 4801 and a 4511 and am looking to transfer some
  things off a heat belching SFF desktop, and was hoping to not to have to
  buy another Soekris just to support  4G.  Thats not to say that
  I wouldn't like to have a 5501, but...

I used to have an 8GB card in my net4801.  It worked fine until I
replaced it with a 2GB and stuck it in my camera instead.

Jason

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[Soekris] Gigabit on 5501-70?

2008-03-04 Thread John Cox
Hi

I want to use a 5501-70 in its default case as a firewall and
lightweight fileserver (samba) running OpenBSD.  I'd like to have have a
gigabit connection to the main network.  Does anyone have a
recommendation for a gigabit card that is known to work (and fit in the
case)?

Many thanks

John Cox
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Re: [Soekris] Soekris-tech Digest, Vol 49, Issue 6

2008-03-04 Thread Goran Lowkrantz
Hi John,

We have been running a pair of 5501s with INTEL PRO/1000 GT QUAD PORTSERVER 
ADAPTER PWLA8494GT for 6 months+ without any problems, except that we get 
Nordic Power 12V/2.5A supplies for them as the one we got from Soekris was 
getting a bit warm. I don't have the numbers here but they were fast enough 
for our use.

Best regards,
Goran L

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 Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008 11:31:18 +
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 Hi

 I want to use a 5501-70 in its default case as a firewall and
 lightweight fileserver (samba) running OpenBSD.  I'd like to have have a
 gigabit connection to the main network.  Does anyone have a
 recommendation for a gigabit card that is known to work (and fit in the
 case)?

 Many thanks

 John Cox


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Re: [Soekris] Gigabit on 5501-70?

2008-03-04 Thread nicodache
You might give a try to good Eth card, like Intel one, that do a lot
of work (like checksumming) in hardware, while realtek chips often
wait for the processor to do that. In that case, the Geode certainly
won't be powerfull enough...

Regards,

On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 12:31 PM, John Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi

  I want to use a 5501-70 in its default case as a firewall and
  lightweight fileserver (samba) running OpenBSD.  I'd like to have have a
  gigabit connection to the main network.  Does anyone have a
  recommendation for a gigabit card that is known to work (and fit in the
  case)?

  Many thanks

  John Cox
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Re: [Soekris] Gigabit on 5501-70?

2008-03-04 Thread John Cox
Hi

Thanks all. I'll give the Intel 1000 GT a go.

JC


On Mar 4, 2008, at 5:31 AM, John Cox wrote:

 Hi

 I want to use a 5501-70 in its default case as a firewall and
 lightweight fileserver (samba) running OpenBSD.  I'd like to have  
 have a
 gigabit connection to the main network.  Does anyone have a
 recommendation for a gigabit card that is known to work (and fit in  
 the
 case)?

 Many thanks

 John Cox

I have been using a net5501-70 with an Intel Pro 1000 GT PCI card,  
using m0n0wall (FreeBSD) with good results.

The card fits like a glove. You have to remove the 5501 board,  
connect the 1000 GT NIC, and then slide everything into the back  
panel of the case, re-attach the 5501 board.

I did some quick throughput tests a few months back:
http://forum.m0n0.ch/index.php/topic,875.msg3306.html#msg3306

Recommended.

Lonnie

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Re: [Soekris] Gigabit on 5501-70?

2008-03-04 Thread Joel Jaeggli
nicodache wrote:
 You might give a try to good Eth card, like Intel one, that do a lot
 of work (like checksumming) in hardware, while realtek chips often
 wait for the processor to do that. In that case, the Geode certainly
 won't be powerfull enough...

It's 32bit 33mhz pci, it will be faster than a 100Mb/s nic but it won't 
approach the performance of a gig nic in a pci-x or pci-e slot.

If it's being used for convenience purposes or to squeeze out a bit more 
performance there's no reason not to do it. From a pure throughput 
perspective you would be disappointed.

 Regards,
 
 On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 12:31 PM, John Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi

  I want to use a 5501-70 in its default case as a firewall and
  lightweight fileserver (samba) running OpenBSD.  I'd like to have have a
  gigabit connection to the main network.  Does anyone have a
  recommendation for a gigabit card that is known to work (and fit in the
  case)?

  Many thanks

  John Cox
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Re: [Soekris] 4G CF limitation on 45xx and 48xx?

2008-03-04 Thread Jon Hart
On Tue, Mar 04, 2008 at 09:28:13PM +1300, Steve Holdoway wrote:
  
  As an alternative may I suggest plugging a USB flash drive into the
  USB slot of the 4801?
 
 except that it's usb 1.1 isn't it?

It is USB 1.1, so I'd be stuck with 12Mbit/s.  I guess it would warrant
testing.  

-jon
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Re: [Soekris] 4G CF limitation on 45xx and 48xx?

2008-03-04 Thread Chris Cappuccio
Jon Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is this actually the case here, or can 45xx and 48xx happily accept
  4G?  I'm hoping that this is just a case of old documentation, as when
 the 45xx and 48xx came out, I don't even believe there was a CF  4G.
 

there's 16GB CF and 32GB CF available these days
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Re: [Soekris] 4G CF limitation on 45xx and 48xx?

2008-03-04 Thread Soren Kristensen
Hi Jon  List,

Jon Hart wrote:
 As listed on the products page of soekris.com, the 45xx and 48xx series
 devices that accept compact flash only appear to support up to 4G disks,
 whereas the newer 5501 supports up to 32.  
 
 Is this actually the case here, or can 45xx and 48xx happily accept
 4G?  I'm hoping that this is just a case of old documentation, as when
 the 45xx and 48xx came out, I don't even believe there was a CF  4G.
 
 I ask because I have 4801 and a 4511 and am looking to transfer some
 things off a heat belching SFF desktop, and was hoping to not to have to
 buy another Soekris just to support  4G.  Thats not to say that
 I wouldn't like to have a 5501, but...

Old docs, just removed those old texts :-)

Currently there is a 128 Gbyte limit on all ATA devices on all boards, 
but that's just a BIOS limit for booting, you should be able to use 
larger devices as long as you have you boot partition below 128 Gbyte.


Best Regards,


Soren Kristensen

CEO  Chief Engineer
Soekris Engineering, Inc.
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Re: [Soekris] 48xx getting the bios to retry pxe every 30 s?

2008-03-04 Thread Jordan Share
Raphaël Jacquot wrote:
 I have this setup where the soekris is netbooted from some tftp/nfs server.
 problem is, the soekris is much faster than said server to reboot when 
 power cycles for some reason (blame the electricity utility).
 I'd like to setup the bios to retry pxe boot forever every 30s or so 
 until it works...
 would it be possible ?

You could have a CF card that does nothing but reboot the box (causing it to 
subsequently attempt a PXE boot), no?

Jordan
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