Re: [Soekris] Net4801 BIOS System Parameters Documentation
Hi Lars, take a look at the comBIOS changelog on the "downloads" page at soekris.com: http://www.soekris.com/software/changelog.txt It should contain basic but usable info about new comBIOS features integrated after the manuals were published. Bill On Fri, 2008-08-22 at 10:32 +0300, Lars Noodén wrote: > I'm looking at a Net4801 and see that there are several BIOS system > parameters not listed in the manual [1] section "2.5 BIOS System > Parameters" The seem not to be covered elsewhere in the manual. > > Specifically, > > ConMute > FastBoot > BootPartition > BootDrive > > Reset is also missing from § 2.5, but described in § 3.8. > > What do the other parameters above do and where are they described? > > -Lars > > [1] http://www.soekris.com/manuals/net4801_manual.pdf > ___ > Soekris-tech mailing list > Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com > http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech > > -- "There is nothing to worry about" - unknown ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] List is quiet
0n Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 06:19:34PM -0500, Matt Lawrence wrote: >On Mon, 18 Aug 2008, Ronald L. Rosson Jr. wrote: > >> Just checking to see if there are any issues with the mailing list >> since I have not seen any posts in awhile. >> >> Please disregard if this makes it thru. > >My net4801 has been mounted to the closet wall and running fine for the >last couple of years, so I haven't had anything to talk about. I will >admit that the used 6GB drive I installed is still working fine. So everyone is now happy with their 5501s ? Is it safe to buy them now ? -aW IMPORTANT: This email remains the property of the Australian Defence Organisation and is subject to the jurisdiction of section 70 of the CRIMES ACT 1914. If you have received this email in error, you are requested to contact the sender and delete the email. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] List is quiet
On Mon, 18 Aug 2008, Ronald L. Rosson Jr. wrote: > Just checking to see if there are any issues with the mailing list > since I have not seen any posts in awhile. > > Please disregard if this makes it thru. My net4801 has been mounted to the closet wall and running fine for the last couple of years, so I haven't had anything to talk about. I will admit that the used 6GB drive I installed is still working fine. -- Matt It's not what I know that counts. It's what I can remember in time to use. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Two PCI peripherals on one unit?
* Lars Noodén wrote: > Marc Balmer wrote: > > * Chris Babcock wrote: > >> Keyspan has a quad-port USB serial adapter. > >> > >> http://www.keyspan.com/products/usa49wg/ > > > > keyspan adapters require firmware to be loaded. check if your OS > > supports them. > > These will be running OpenBSD. > I'll keep the Keyspan adapters in mind, but they do have 3 physical > parts. Firmware is a fourth part... OpenBSD has no firmware for keyspan adapers that need firmware. > > Right now of the 1-piece units, I see this one: > http://www.serialgear.com/4-Port-Serial-USB-USBG-4X232.html > > It uses the "prolific" chipset, for what that's worth. If that does not > need any firmware, etc. then it becomes a good candidate. try it ;) > > -Lars ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Two PCI peripherals on one unit?
Marc Balmer wrote: > * Chris Babcock wrote: >> Keyspan has a quad-port USB serial adapter. >> >> http://www.keyspan.com/products/usa49wg/ > > keyspan adapters require firmware to be loaded. check if your OS > supports them. These will be running OpenBSD. I'll keep the Keyspan adapters in mind, but they do have 3 physical parts. Firmware is a fourth part... Right now of the 1-piece units, I see this one: http://www.serialgear.com/4-Port-Serial-USB-USBG-4X232.html It uses the "prolific" chipset, for what that's worth. If that does not need any firmware, etc. then it becomes a good candidate. -Lars ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Two PCI peripherals on one unit?
Marc Balmer wrote: > * Chris Babcock wrote: >> Lars Noodén wrote: >>> Maurice Janssen wrote: On Friday, August 22, 2008 at 10:55:37 +0300, Lars Noodén wrote: > I'm looking into a project that appears to require two PCI cards > operating at the same time: one 4 port serial PCI card and one PCI Dual > ethernet board. Why not use serial ports over USB? >>> That might be an option. Which hardware gives 4 serial ports from 1 USB? >>> >> Keyspan has a quad-port USB serial adapter. >> >> http://www.keyspan.com/products/usa49wg/ > > keyspan adapters require firmware to be loaded. check if your OS > supports them. > Yeah, sorry. I forgot to mention that. Yes, this one works under Linux pretty well. I'm not sure about support for it under BSD variants. >> >>> Regards, >>> -Lars >>> ___ >>> Soekris-tech mailing list >>> Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com >>> http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech >> ___ >> Soekris-tech mailing list >> Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com >> http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech > ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Two PCI peripherals on one unit?
* Chris Babcock wrote: > Lars Noodén wrote: > > Maurice Janssen wrote: > >> On Friday, August 22, 2008 at 10:55:37 +0300, Lars Noodén wrote: > >>> I'm looking into a project that appears to require two PCI cards > >>> operating at the same time: one 4 port serial PCI card and one PCI Dual > >>> ethernet board. > >> Why not use serial ports over USB? > > > > That might be an option. Which hardware gives 4 serial ports from 1 USB? > > > Keyspan has a quad-port USB serial adapter. > > http://www.keyspan.com/products/usa49wg/ keyspan adapters require firmware to be loaded. check if your OS supports them. > > > > Regards, > > -Lars > > ___ > > Soekris-tech mailing list > > Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com > > http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech > > ___ > Soekris-tech mailing list > Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com > http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Two PCI peripherals on one unit?
Lars Noodén wrote: > Maurice Janssen wrote: >> On Friday, August 22, 2008 at 10:55:37 +0300, Lars Noodén wrote: >>> I'm looking into a project that appears to require two PCI cards >>> operating at the same time: one 4 port serial PCI card and one PCI Dual >>> ethernet board. >> Why not use serial ports over USB? > > That might be an option. Which hardware gives 4 serial ports from 1 USB? > Keyspan has a quad-port USB serial adapter. http://www.keyspan.com/products/usa49wg/ > Regards, > -Lars > ___ > Soekris-tech mailing list > Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com > http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] mini-pci serial (was: Two PCI peripherals on one unit?)
Meh, no reply-to address munging. Sorry for the unicast, Lars. On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 8:13 AM, RB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 3:50 AM, Lars Noodén <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Since soekris devices have one mini-pci slot, would it be possible then >> to use the regular PCI for extra ethernet while using the mini-PCI for >> 2-port RS-232 card? > > Conceptually there shouldn't be a problem - there are several > manufacturers that make multi-port RS-232 mini-PCI cards. You'll just > have to do some of your own wiring, which you seem willing to do - > IMHO, serial wiring is easier (more forgiving) than ethernet. > ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Second serial or USB (Was: Two PCI peripherals on one unit?)
Wim Vandeputte Mailing list only wrote: > On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 11:59:51AM +0300, Lars Nood??n wrote: >> Scaling back, the net5501 has two serial ports, one DB9 external and one >> 10-pins internal. Is it available with two external DB9's? > > you just need to get a cheap flat cable ... longer than 25 cm ... Ok. Great. That can be the lower-boundary. In the search for n serial ports with n+1 ethernet, maybe one of these could be used: http://www.usbgear.com/USBG-4X232FTDI.html ... plus the flat cable on a net5501 with a lan1641 added, that would give 8 ethernet, plus 6 serial (4 serial on the USB cable + the 2 built-in) Regards -Lars ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Second serial or USB (Was: Two PCI peripherals on one unit?)
hey Lars, On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 11:59:51AM +0300, Lars Nood??n wrote: > Scaling back, the net5501 has two serial ports, one DB9 external and one > 10-pins internal. Is it available with two external DB9's? you just need to get a cheap flat cable like: http://soekris.kd85.com/images/dsc07647.jpg and make sure it's just a bit longer than 25 cm, then it fits into the default soekris 5501 1 slot case: http://soekris.kd85.com/images/dsc07648.jpg Same way, you can also use the second USB port or even have an eSATA connector for external storage: http://soekris.kd85.com/images/dsc07654.jpg (the SATA connector should have a 90 degree angle, I just put it in there for testing, it actually is a perfect fit for the Kerberos rackmounted case: http://soekris.kd85.com/images/dsc07627.jpg ) ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] mini-pci serial (was: Two PCI peripherals on one unit?)
Since soekris devices have one mini-pci slot, would it be possible then to use the regular PCI for extra ethernet while using the mini-PCI for 2-port RS-232 card? -Lars ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Two PCI peripherals on one unit?
On Friday, August 22, 2008 at 11:19:24 +0300, Lars Noodén wrote: >Maurice Janssen wrote: >> On Friday, August 22, 2008 at 10:55:37 +0300, Lars Noodén wrote: >>> I'm looking into a project that appears to require two PCI cards >>> operating at the same time: one 4 port serial PCI card and one PCI Dual >>> ethernet board. >> >> Why not use serial ports over USB? > >That might be an option. Which hardware gives 4 serial ports from 1 USB? I'm quite happy with products from Vcsom: http://www.vscom.de/1_1_09.htm But I'm sure there are many other products available. Maurice ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Two PCI peripherals on one unit?
Maurice Janssen wrote: > On Friday, August 22, 2008 at 11:19:24 +0300, Lars Noodén wrote: >> ... Which hardware gives 4 serial ports from 1 USB? > > I'm quite happy with products from Vcsom: > http://www.vscom.de/1_1_09.htm > > But I'm sure there are many other products available. It seems it might be cheaper to go with 4 port serial card and deal with the extra ethernet connections with a small hub. I've been mostly able to remain blissfully ignorant about hardware, what low-end hubs are recommendable and might fit in the same case with a soekris? -Lars ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Two PCI peripherals on one unit?
Wim Vandeputte Mailing list only wrote: > On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 11:31:37AM +0300, Lars Nood??n wrote: >> How about backplanes of some kind? > > you mean split the PCI bus and have 2 connectors? Not sure if that > even works reliable. > > Anyways, you'd need a case as wel to fit everything in One case, one power supply would be a real bonus. Failing that, one case with a lot of junk jammed in would be suffice. Worst case would be separate pieces for everything. Scaling back, the net5501 has two serial ports, one DB9 external and one 10-pins internal. Is it available with two external DB9's? -Lars ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Two PCI peripherals on one unit?
hey, On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 11:19:24AM +0300, Lars Nood??n wrote: > Maurice Janssen wrote: > > On Friday, August 22, 2008 at 10:55:37 +0300, Lars Nood??n wrote: > >> I'm looking into a project that appears to require two PCI cards > >> operating at the same time: one 4 port serial PCI card and one PCI Dual > >> ethernet board. > > > > Why not use serial ports over USB? > > That might be an option. Which hardware gives 4 serial ports from 1 USB? there is various weird hardware on the market: Serial to Ethernet CONVERTER - 4 port RS232/422/485 - 10/100 Mbps or what you are looking for: USB TO 7 PORT RS-232 DB9M (there is also a 4 port version I think) For a picture, see http://soekris.kd85.com/images/sunix-7port-serial2usb.jpg In your case you could use a quad ethernet port with a 5501, giving you 7 + 1 ethernet ports + a USB 2 serial for 7 serial ports. There is also one extra serial port onboard of the soekris that you could use. Downside is that is all becomes a bit of a cable salad, or you have to put everything in a rackmounted case * Support USB 1.1 full speed and USB 2.0 compatible * Support wake on line & power management function * Embedded ESD surge protection built-in * Support hot-swapping & plug-n-play * No IRQ, DMA, I/O, address resources required * Dual data buffers for upstream and downstream data flow * Support Microsoft Windows and Linux USB Communication Bus Interface Universal Serial Bus StandardUSB 1.0/1.1/2.0 compatible Connector USB tupe Mini B Speed Full Speed 12 Mbps Serial Communication Interface RS 232 Controller 16c550 compatible UART Number of port 7 ports Port Type DB9M IRQ & I/O Address BIOS assigned FIFO16 byte hardware FIFO Baud Rate up to 115 Kbps Data bit4, 6, 7, 8 Stop Bit1, 1.5, 2 Parity None, Odd, Even, Space, Mark Flow ControlNone, Xon/Xoff, RTS/CTS Signal Line Tx, Rx, RTS, CTS, DTR, DSR, DCR, DCD, RI, GND Protection 15 KV embedded ESD surge protection LED Indicator LED Light Red for Tx, Green for Rx, Orange for full-duplex Power Specification Input Power USB Power 5V DC jack Power Consumption <0.7W=5V x 130mA Mechanical Dimension 180 x 70 x 26 mm Housing ABS ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Two PCI peripherals on one unit?
Wim Vandeputte Mailing list only wrote: > hey, > > On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 10:55:37AM +0300, Lars Nood??n wrote: >> The idea is to have 1 serial port available for each ethernet port and >> then have one or two left over for other tasks. Is there Soekris >> hardware that can do this? If not can existing hardware be modified to >> accommodate two PCI cards at the same time? > > Wel there is a PCI raiser card that will be available once the > official soekris rackmounted case is sold, but that could take > another year or so How about backplanes of some kind? -Lars ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Two PCI peripherals on one unit?
Maurice Janssen wrote: > On Friday, August 22, 2008 at 10:55:37 +0300, Lars Noodén wrote: >> I'm looking into a project that appears to require two PCI cards >> operating at the same time: one 4 port serial PCI card and one PCI Dual >> ethernet board. > > Why not use serial ports over USB? That might be an option. Which hardware gives 4 serial ports from 1 USB? Regards, -Lars ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
[Soekris] Net4801 BIOS System Parameters Documentation
I'm looking at a Net4801 and see that there are several BIOS system parameters not listed in the manual [1] section "2.5 BIOS System Parameters" The seem not to be covered elsewhere in the manual. Specifically, ConMute FastBoot BootPartition BootDrive Reset is also missing from § 2.5, but described in § 3.8. What do the other parameters above do and where are they described? -Lars [1] http://www.soekris.com/manuals/net4801_manual.pdf ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Two PCI peripherals on one unit?
On Friday, August 22, 2008 at 10:55:37 +0300, Lars Noodén wrote: >I'm looking into a project that appears to require two PCI cards >operating at the same time: one 4 port serial PCI card and one PCI Dual >ethernet board. Why not use serial ports over USB? Maurice ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
[Soekris] Two PCI peripherals on one unit?
I'm looking into a project that appears to require two PCI cards operating at the same time: one 4 port serial PCI card and one PCI Dual ethernet board. The idea is to have 1 serial port available for each ethernet port and then have one or two left over for other tasks. Is there Soekris hardware that can do this? If not can existing hardware be modified to accommodate two PCI cards at the same time? -Lars ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
