[Soekris] New Soekris?
So, I read this article: http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/01/27/143203 on slashdot. This is slightly disconcerting. They aren't going to release any new Geode processors. Does Soekris have a roadmap for new devices over the next 3 years? Keep in mind, they aren't going to kill the current line for a while, so we have at least 2-3 years. I just want to make sure my favorite embedded products vendor has a plan. -- +1.925.202.9485 Sargun Dhillon deCarta sdhil...@decarta.com www.decarta.com ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] New Soekris?
Sargun Dhillon wrote: ...They aren't going to release any new Geode processors. Does Soekris have a roadmap for new devices over the next 3 years? ... ARM ? -Lars ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] switch away from geode?
In message d9b4a220901270844g2f3fa28cr9783109aeef6...@mail.gmail.com, nate wr ites: are there any plans for soekris to replace geode chips with other low power models in the near future? it seems amd plan on continuing sales of geode chips but not development. I think AMDs decision makes sense, the Geode line is reaching the end of its useful designlife, upgrading it to modern expectations would be a redesign which would compete with the main-line chips. The netbook market has finally registered on the radar with both Intel and AMD, and together with the general focus on green computing, that clearly pushes the mainstream chips in the direction we want for embedded and appliance use. I talked with Søren a couple of days ago and he certainly has plans, but what they are, we'll just have to wait and see. Poul-Henning -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebsd.org | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] 4801 - Fussy about CF cards? What's your experience?
Karl Fife wrote: I have a 4801 that seems incredibly fussy about which CF card I use with it. No so for any of my 5501-60's or -70's of which we have several in service. With the majority of CF cards on the 4801 (both name-brand and generic) there seems to be corruption of system files either immediately (won't boot error messages on a brand new image) or over time - develops problems - error messages functional anomalies. I would like to know if others on this list have experienced similar behavior, or whether my board's just a good old-fashioned lemon. Am I failing to follow some arcane list of compatible CF cards? Any input is much appreciated. Don't have a net4801, but FWIW I've used the same Sandisk CF in my net4501 with no issues since 2002. Perhaps you need a newer bios? Ben. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
[Soekris] net5501 link problems
Hi,
under some circumstances we experience problems with the net5501 VIA Rhine III
builtin network adapters: network traffic mostly fails, pinging the affected
interface from another host has a significant loss rate depending on packet
sizes, e.g.
size=100: 22% lost
size=1400: 90% lost
It appears that the loss happens on incoming packets (they are not seen by
tcdump then)
Forcing an ethernet renegotiation randomly changes the interface's state
between this bad state and ok.
OS is Debian etch (kernel 2.6.18); however it also happens with a 2.6.26
kernel; we best can reproduce the problem when the interface is linked to a
port with untagged VLAN on a D-Link DES-1252 switch.
It is not limited to a particular Soekris box or interface.
Depending on the interface state the following command produces different
output:
mii-diag -v eth0
when ok, the marked value is 0:
...
MII PHY #1 transceiver registers:
3100 786d 0101 8f43 05e1 41e1 0005 2801
0800 f7ff 0800 fffc 7003 0215
0001 0012 c500 0009 0010 .
...
when bad it is non-zero:
...
MII PHY #1 transceiver registers:
3100 786d 0101 8f43 05e1 41e1 0005 2801
0800 f7ff 0800 fffc 7087 0212 0073 76d5
0001 0012 c500 0001 0010 .
...
This helped us to write a daemon that periodically checks the state and
eventually triggers a renegotiation, however, we would prefer a clean solution.
Any ideas?
Gerhard Rieger
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Re: [Soekris] net5501 link problems
In message 200901281043.03812.gerhard.rie...@linbit.com, Gerhard Rieger write s: under some circumstances we experience problems with the net5501 VIA Rhine III builtin network adapters: network traffic mostly fails, pinging the affected interface from another host has a significant loss rate depending on packet sizes, e.g. size=100: 22% lost size=1400: 90% lost Make sure your cable and other hardware is OK. Electrical problem very often manifest themselves by the longer packet, the more trouble. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebsd.org | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] net5501 link problems
I don't think that it is so simple. First one of our customers experienced this problem at his site with the first net5501 and sent the box back to us; we could reproduce it. If the statistical packet loss happens depends only on some mystical outcome of the last renegotiation (but speed and duplex are always the same). Regards Gerhard Rieger ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] net5501 link problems
In message 200901281115.26947.gerhard.rie...@linbit.com, Gerhard Rieger write s: I don't think that it is so simple. First one of our customers experienced this problem at his site with the first net5501 and sent the box back to us; we could reproduce it. If the statistical packet loss happens depends only on some mystical outcome of the last renegotiation (but speed and duplex are always the same). Hmm, try a different OS to see if it might be a device driver issue ? The VT6105M network chip docs are pretty lousy, so I wouldn't be surprised of device drivers could get in trouble. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebsd.org | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] New Soekris?
Atom? 2009/1/28 Lars Noodén l...@umich.edu: Sargun Dhillon wrote: ...They aren't going to release any new Geode processors. Does Soekris have a roadmap for new devices over the next 3 years? ... ARM ? -Lars ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech -- Adam Retter ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] New Soekris?
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 11:54:10AM +, Adam Retter wrote: Atom? The only choice for x86 I think. An ARM is probably nicer, but probably supports less Operating Systems out of the box. There seems to be an OpenBSD port so I'd be satisfied. /P 2009/1/28 Lars Noodén l...@umich.edu: Sargun Dhillon wrote: ...They aren't going to release any new Geode processors. Does Soekris have a roadmap for new devices over the next 3 years? ... ARM ? -Lars ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech -- Adam Retter ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] New Soekris?
Hi Everybody, Sargun Dhillon wrote: So, I read this article: http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/01/27/143203 on slashdot. This is slightly disconcerting. They aren't going to release any new Geode processors. Does Soekris have a roadmap for new devices over the next 3 years? Keep in mind, they aren't going to kill the current line for a while, so we have at least 2-3 years. I just want to make sure my favorite embedded products vendor has a plan. No, there will be no new Geodes, the architecture is running out of life But the Geode LX used on the net5501 are going to be available until at least 2016, according to AMD docs. And I am working on new boards, had actually started on a VIA C7M/Nano/VX800 board design, but then the communication with VIA died up, zip, nada, like emailing into a black hole Can't design a product on that, what if I run into a chip bug ? They don't seems interested in the smaller guys. I'm now looking a other options from AMD and Intel, have great communication and NDA access with both, and those new netbook/nettop parts are just perfect for the net6501 I regularly take a round looking at ARM, MIPS, SH, PowerPC and whatever come around, but they just don't have the broad support and top to bottom range of parts like the x86 Best Regards, Soren Kristensen CEO Chief Engineer Soekris Engineering, Inc. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] 4801 - Fussy about CF cards? What's your experience?
A while ago I had a couple of 4801s that wouldn't boot using GRUB, but were happy with LILO. I couldn't see any reason why - the CF worked with GRUB in other 4801s so it was just one of those things. Jonathon From: soekris-tech-boun...@lists.soekris.com [mailto:soekris-tech-boun...@lists.soekris.com] On Behalf Of Karl Fife Sent: Wednesday, 28 January 2009 09:20 To: soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com Subject: [Soekris] 4801 - Fussy about CF cards? What's your experience? I have a 4801 that seems incredibly fussy about which CF card I use with it. No so for any of my 5501-60's or -70's of which we have several in service. With the majority of CF cards on the 4801 (both name-brand and generic) there seems to be corruption of system files either immediately (won't boot error messages on a brand new image) or over time - develops problems - error messages functional anomalies. I would like to know if others on this list have experienced similar behavior, or whether my board's just a good old-fashioned lemon. Am I failing to follow some arcane list of compatible CF cards? Any input is much appreciated. -Karl This email and attachments: are confidential; may be protected by privilege and copyright; if received in error may not be used, copied, or kept; are not guaranteed to be virus-free; may not express the views of Kordia™; do not designate an information system; and do not give rise to any liability for Kordia™. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] New Soekris?
Hi Everybody, Bjarke Istrup Pedersen wrote: Hey, Does this mean, that there is a good chance for a soekris board with an intel atom cpu? Nothing is firm yet, but the Atom is at the top of my short list Best Regards, Soren Kristensen CEO Chief Engineer Soekris Engineering, Inc. Best regards, Bjarke 2009/1/28 Soren Kristensen so...@soekris.com mailto:so...@soekris.com Hi Everybody, Sargun Dhillon wrote: So, I read this article: http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/01/27/143203 on slashdot. This is slightly disconcerting. They aren't going to release any new Geode processors. Does Soekris have a roadmap for new devices over the next 3 years? Keep in mind, they aren't going to kill the current line for a while, so we have at least 2-3 years. I just want to make sure my favorite embedded products vendor has a plan. No, there will be no new Geodes, the architecture is running out of life But the Geode LX used on the net5501 are going to be available until at least 2016, according to AMD docs. And I am working on new boards, had actually started on a VIA C7M/Nano/VX800 board design, but then the communication with VIA died up, zip, nada, like emailing into a black hole Can't design a product on that, what if I run into a chip bug ? They don't seems interested in the smaller guys. I'm now looking a other options from AMD and Intel, have great communication and NDA access with both, and those new netbook/nettop parts are just perfect for the net6501 I regularly take a round looking at ARM, MIPS, SH, PowerPC and whatever come around, but they just don't have the broad support and top to bottom range of parts like the x86 Best Regards, Soren Kristensen CEO Chief Engineer Soekris Engineering, Inc. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com mailto:Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
