[Soekris] Clock losing time on Net5501

2013-02-05 Thread Lars Noodén
I have a Net5501 that seems to be losing  90 seconds off the system
clock when it is turned off for a while.  Is there anything that can or
should be done to fix this?

I see that there are others with the same problem:

http://lists.soekris.com/pipermail/soekris-tech/2010-July/016691.html

I guess the batteries are only good for 3 or so years and now it has to
be replaced with a new Panasonic ML1220/V1AE [1]  Digikey is recommended
there, is there another supplier that is withing the Euro zone?  Also,
how likely is it that someone with middling soldering skills can do the
replacement?

Regards
/Lars

[1] http://wiki.soekris.info/Category:Net5501

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Re: [Soekris] Clock losing time on Net5501

2013-02-05 Thread Soren Kristensen
Hi Lars,

Lars Noodén wrote:
 I have a Net5501 that seems to be losing  90 seconds off the system
 clock when it is turned off for a while.  Is there anything that can or
 should be done to fix this?

That need to be qualified with time to be able to say if it's out of 
spec

 I see that there are others with the same problem:

 http://lists.soekris.com/pipermail/soekris-tech/2010-July/016691.html

 I guess the batteries are only good for 3 or so years and now it has to
 be replaced with a new Panasonic ML1220/V1AE [1]  Digikey is recommended
 there, is there another supplier that is withing the Euro zone?  Also,
 how likely is it that someone with middling soldering skills can do the
 replacement?

The batteries are supposed to be last minimum 10 years, typecial 20 
years. They're rechargeable, but a charge last only 1-2 months.

But is the RTC still works then the batteri is fine.


Best Regards,


Soren Kristensen

CEO  Chief Engineer
Soekris Engineering, Inc.
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Re: [Soekris] Clock losing time on Net5501

2013-02-05 Thread Lars Noodén
On 02/05/2013 01:54 PM, Soren Kristensen wrote:
 Hi Lars,
 
 Lars Noodén wrote:
 I have a Net5501 that seems to be losing  90 seconds off the system
 clock when it is turned off for a while.  Is there anything that can or
 should be done to fix this?
 
 That need to be qualified with time to be able to say if it's out of
 spec

Thanks.  How would I check that?  I have ntpd starting with to set the
time immediately at startup.  But without that, I get log entries like
these:

Jan 31 10:15:31 net5501 ntpd[20060]: adjusting local clock by 93.846882s

Am I interpreting that correctly?

Regards,
/Lars

 I see that there are others with the same problem:

 http://lists.soekris.com/pipermail/soekris-tech/2010-July/016691.html

 I guess the batteries are only good for 3 or so years and now it has to
 be replaced with a new Panasonic ML1220/V1AE [1]  Digikey is recommended
 there, is there another supplier that is withing the Euro zone?  Also,
 how likely is it that someone with middling soldering skills can do the
 replacement?
 
 The batteries are supposed to be last minimum 10 years, typecial 20
 years. They're rechargeable, but a charge last only 1-2 months.
 
 But is the RTC still works then the batteri is fine.
 
 
 Best Regards,
 
 
 Soren Kristensen
 
 CEO  Chief Engineer
 Soekris Engineering, Inc.

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Re: [Soekris] Clock losing time on Net5501

2013-02-05 Thread Lars Noodén
On 02/05/2013 01:54 PM, Soren Kristensen wrote:
 Hi Lars,

 Lars Noodén wrote:
 I have a Net5501 that seems to be losing  90 seconds off the system
 clock when it is turned off for a while.  Is there anything that can or
 should be done to fix this?

 That need to be qualified with time to be able to say if it's out of
 spec

Thanks.  How would I check that?  I have ntpd starting with to set the
time immediately at startup.  But without that, I get log entries like
these:

Feb  1 08:43:33 net5501 ntpd[30196]: adjusting local clock by 94.899672s

Am I interpreting that correctly?

Regards,
/Lars

 I see that there are others with the same problem:

 http://lists.soekris.com/pipermail/soekris-tech/2010-July/016691.html

 I guess the batteries are only good for 3 or so years and now it has to
 be replaced with a new Panasonic ML1220/V1AE [1]  Digikey is recommended
 there, is there another supplier that is withing the Euro zone?  Also,
 how likely is it that someone with middling soldering skills can do the
 replacement?

 The batteries are supposed to be last minimum 10 years, typecial 20
 years. They're rechargeable, but a charge last only 1-2 months.

 But is the RTC still works then the batteri is fine.


 Best Regards,


 Soren Kristensen

 CEO  Chief Engineer
 Soekris Engineering, Inc.
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Re: [Soekris] Problems flashing bios from linux

2013-02-05 Thread Thomas Fjellstrom
On Mon Nov 19, 2012, Richard Laysell wrote:
 On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 12:41:15 -0700
 
 Thomas Fjellstrom tho...@fjellstrom.ca wrote:
  Hi,
  
  I've tried everything I can find on the wiki and google on how to
  update the bios from linux (via my ftdi usb/serial adapter). both
  minicom and cu get stuck with a send xmodem receive command now,
  and nothing happens. I've left the terminal speed set to the default,
  turned off flow control, ran download - on the soekris, tried
  minicom's own send file feature (didn't work), and sz/sx from the
  cli, either with cu or minicom running still, or exited while trying
  to run sx/sz.
  
  I'm stuck.
 
 I had big problems with doing bios upgrades from Linux as well and in
 the end I gave up and used OpenBSD following the instructions here
 (thanks Wim!):
 http://soekris.kd85.com/flashupdate_5501
 These are for the Net5501, but the procedure works very well for
 the 6501 as well.
 
 I installed OpenBSD to a USB flash drive, booted my system from that
 and then ran the updates from there.  This meant that I didn't have to
 overwrite the current OS on the system I did the updates from.
 (Normally I run OpenBSD only on my Soekris systems and not on my main
 systems which run Linux).
 
 OpenBSD sees the USB-Serial adapter as /dev/ttyU0

I finally got around to trying again, and managed to figure it out. I think it 
was mostly derp on my part that made it not work.

This time I installed the uucp package to get cu, and followed the directions 
on the wiki. What I didn't realize before is that the output shown on the wiki 
and various other sites documenting how to flash the bios on a soekris isn't 
the same as what I get on mine. Instead of something that looks somewhat like 
a prompt when I enter command mode (to run sx), all I get is repeating C 
characters printed. Once I managed to figure it all out and type the sx 
command fast enough (the soekris seems to time out after 10-20s), comBIOS 
noticed my upload, and I was able to flash the bios.

Between the new bios, and a much newer, and patched linux kernel, things seem 
to be alright so far. I'll have to wait and see if things get worse over time 
like I had seen with older linux kernels.


-- 
Thomas Fjellstrom
tho...@fjellstrom.ca
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[Soekris] Help linux image

2013-02-05 Thread João Alberto Pereira de Araújo

  
  
Good afternoon.
Can anyone help me providing a minimalistic linux image of a
distribuition (FreeBSD or Debian or others) to install on a device
with 2 Gb free space? With a good performace on the IO?
Thanks in advance.

  
  

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[Soekris] Help linux image

2013-02-05 Thread João Alberto Pereira de Araújo
Good afternoon.
Can anyone help me providing a minimalistic linux image of a 
distribuition (FreeBSD or Debian or others) to install on a device with 
2 Gb free space? With a good performace on the IO?
Thanks in advance.



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Re: [Soekris] Help linux image

2013-02-05 Thread Mouse
 Can anyone help me providing a minimalistic linux image of a
 distribuition (FreeBSD or Debian or others)

Um, FreeBSD is not Linux.  If you mean open-source OS, saying linux
is likely to mislead people; if you really do mean just Linux, saying
FreeBSD is likely to mislead people the other way.

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Re: [Soekris] Help linux image

2013-02-05 Thread Timothy Wegner
João wrote:

On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 9:02 AM, João Alberto Pereira de Araújo
j.pereira.ara...@viaquanta.com wrote:

 Can anyone help me providing a minimalistic linux image of a distribuition
 (FreeBSD or Debian or others) to install on a device with 2 Gb free space?

I have been happily running leaf, a miniature Linux designed for
embedded systems (see leaf.sourceforge.net) on a Soekris net4801 for
many years. This is WAY under 1 gb.

Tim
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Re: [Soekris] Help linux image

2013-02-05 Thread bentscrewdriver
I prefer a debian derived distro called Voyage, which is small and
specifically builds in support for Soekris models:

http://linux.voyage.hk/


On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 11:15 AM, João Alberto Pereira de Araújo 
j.pereira.ara...@viaquanta.com wrote:

 Good afternoon.
 Can anyone help me providing a minimalistic linux image of a
 distribuition (FreeBSD or Debian or others) to install on a device with
 2 Gb free space? With a good performace on the IO?
 Thanks in advance.



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Re: [Soekris] Clock losing time on Net5501

2013-02-05 Thread Chris Cappuccio
Lars Nood?n [lars.noo...@gmail.com] wrote:
 On 02/05/2013 01:54 PM, Soren Kristensen wrote:
  Hi Lars,
 
  Lars Nood?n wrote:
  I have a Net5501 that seems to be losing  90 seconds off the system
  clock when it is turned off for a while.  Is there anything that can or
  should be done to fix this?
 
  That need to be qualified with time to be able to say if it's out of
  spec
 
 Thanks.  How would I check that?  I have ntpd starting with to set the
 time immediately at startup.  But without that, I get log entries like
 these:
 
 Feb  1 08:43:33 net5501 ntpd[30196]: adjusting local clock by 94.899672s
 
 Am I interpreting that correctly?
 

Do you start ntpd with -s? If not, it continually adjusts the clock to bring it 
up to current time, in relatively small increments.
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Re: [Soekris] Clock losing time on Net5501

2013-02-05 Thread Lars Noodén
On 02/05/2013 10:13 PM, Matt Lawrence wrote:
 On Tue, 5 Feb 2013, Lars Noodén wrote:
 
 Yes, I've recently started launching ntpd with -s to avoid the
 incremental adjustments.  Without -s, it takes all day to catch up,
 usually 5 or so hours.  I'm concerned that the clock is off by so much
 at cold boot.
 
 After the system time is brought back into sync are you resetting the 
 hardware clock?  See the hwclock command.

It's running OpenBSD 5.2-stable.  There's not the exact command
'hwclock'.  Perhaps there is an OpenBSD analog.  I'm finding this with
'apropos':

hardclock (9) - real-time system clock

but can't find a binary or man page.

/Lars
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Re: [Soekris] Clock losing time on Net5501

2013-02-05 Thread Hendrickson, Kenneth
--- Lars Noodén wrote:
 but can't find a binary or man page.

Here is a link to the man page for OpenBSD's hardclock(9):
http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=hardclockapropos=0sektion=0manpath=OpenBSD+Currentarch=i386format=html

Ken


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