[Soekris] Clock losing time on Net5501
I have a Net5501 that seems to be losing 90 seconds off the system clock when it is turned off for a while. Is there anything that can or should be done to fix this? I see that there are others with the same problem: http://lists.soekris.com/pipermail/soekris-tech/2010-July/016691.html I guess the batteries are only good for 3 or so years and now it has to be replaced with a new Panasonic ML1220/V1AE [1] Digikey is recommended there, is there another supplier that is withing the Euro zone? Also, how likely is it that someone with middling soldering skills can do the replacement? Regards /Lars [1] http://wiki.soekris.info/Category:Net5501 ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Clock losing time on Net5501
Hi Lars, Lars Noodén wrote: I have a Net5501 that seems to be losing 90 seconds off the system clock when it is turned off for a while. Is there anything that can or should be done to fix this? That need to be qualified with time to be able to say if it's out of spec I see that there are others with the same problem: http://lists.soekris.com/pipermail/soekris-tech/2010-July/016691.html I guess the batteries are only good for 3 or so years and now it has to be replaced with a new Panasonic ML1220/V1AE [1] Digikey is recommended there, is there another supplier that is withing the Euro zone? Also, how likely is it that someone with middling soldering skills can do the replacement? The batteries are supposed to be last minimum 10 years, typecial 20 years. They're rechargeable, but a charge last only 1-2 months. But is the RTC still works then the batteri is fine. Best Regards, Soren Kristensen CEO Chief Engineer Soekris Engineering, Inc. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Clock losing time on Net5501
On 02/05/2013 01:54 PM, Soren Kristensen wrote: Hi Lars, Lars Noodén wrote: I have a Net5501 that seems to be losing 90 seconds off the system clock when it is turned off for a while. Is there anything that can or should be done to fix this? That need to be qualified with time to be able to say if it's out of spec Thanks. How would I check that? I have ntpd starting with to set the time immediately at startup. But without that, I get log entries like these: Jan 31 10:15:31 net5501 ntpd[20060]: adjusting local clock by 93.846882s Am I interpreting that correctly? Regards, /Lars I see that there are others with the same problem: http://lists.soekris.com/pipermail/soekris-tech/2010-July/016691.html I guess the batteries are only good for 3 or so years and now it has to be replaced with a new Panasonic ML1220/V1AE [1] Digikey is recommended there, is there another supplier that is withing the Euro zone? Also, how likely is it that someone with middling soldering skills can do the replacement? The batteries are supposed to be last minimum 10 years, typecial 20 years. They're rechargeable, but a charge last only 1-2 months. But is the RTC still works then the batteri is fine. Best Regards, Soren Kristensen CEO Chief Engineer Soekris Engineering, Inc. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Clock losing time on Net5501
On 02/05/2013 01:54 PM, Soren Kristensen wrote: Hi Lars, Lars Noodén wrote: I have a Net5501 that seems to be losing 90 seconds off the system clock when it is turned off for a while. Is there anything that can or should be done to fix this? That need to be qualified with time to be able to say if it's out of spec Thanks. How would I check that? I have ntpd starting with to set the time immediately at startup. But without that, I get log entries like these: Feb 1 08:43:33 net5501 ntpd[30196]: adjusting local clock by 94.899672s Am I interpreting that correctly? Regards, /Lars I see that there are others with the same problem: http://lists.soekris.com/pipermail/soekris-tech/2010-July/016691.html I guess the batteries are only good for 3 or so years and now it has to be replaced with a new Panasonic ML1220/V1AE [1] Digikey is recommended there, is there another supplier that is withing the Euro zone? Also, how likely is it that someone with middling soldering skills can do the replacement? The batteries are supposed to be last minimum 10 years, typecial 20 years. They're rechargeable, but a charge last only 1-2 months. But is the RTC still works then the batteri is fine. Best Regards, Soren Kristensen CEO Chief Engineer Soekris Engineering, Inc. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Problems flashing bios from linux
On Mon Nov 19, 2012, Richard Laysell wrote: On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 12:41:15 -0700 Thomas Fjellstrom tho...@fjellstrom.ca wrote: Hi, I've tried everything I can find on the wiki and google on how to update the bios from linux (via my ftdi usb/serial adapter). both minicom and cu get stuck with a send xmodem receive command now, and nothing happens. I've left the terminal speed set to the default, turned off flow control, ran download - on the soekris, tried minicom's own send file feature (didn't work), and sz/sx from the cli, either with cu or minicom running still, or exited while trying to run sx/sz. I'm stuck. I had big problems with doing bios upgrades from Linux as well and in the end I gave up and used OpenBSD following the instructions here (thanks Wim!): http://soekris.kd85.com/flashupdate_5501 These are for the Net5501, but the procedure works very well for the 6501 as well. I installed OpenBSD to a USB flash drive, booted my system from that and then ran the updates from there. This meant that I didn't have to overwrite the current OS on the system I did the updates from. (Normally I run OpenBSD only on my Soekris systems and not on my main systems which run Linux). OpenBSD sees the USB-Serial adapter as /dev/ttyU0 I finally got around to trying again, and managed to figure it out. I think it was mostly derp on my part that made it not work. This time I installed the uucp package to get cu, and followed the directions on the wiki. What I didn't realize before is that the output shown on the wiki and various other sites documenting how to flash the bios on a soekris isn't the same as what I get on mine. Instead of something that looks somewhat like a prompt when I enter command mode (to run sx), all I get is repeating C characters printed. Once I managed to figure it all out and type the sx command fast enough (the soekris seems to time out after 10-20s), comBIOS noticed my upload, and I was able to flash the bios. Between the new bios, and a much newer, and patched linux kernel, things seem to be alright so far. I'll have to wait and see if things get worse over time like I had seen with older linux kernels. -- Thomas Fjellstrom tho...@fjellstrom.ca ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
[Soekris] Help linux image
Good afternoon. Can anyone help me providing a minimalistic linux image of a distribuition (FreeBSD or Debian or others) to install on a device with 2 Gb free space? With a good performace on the IO? Thanks in advance. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
[Soekris] Help linux image
Good afternoon. Can anyone help me providing a minimalistic linux image of a distribuition (FreeBSD or Debian or others) to install on a device with 2 Gb free space? With a good performace on the IO? Thanks in advance. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Help linux image
Can anyone help me providing a minimalistic linux image of a distribuition (FreeBSD or Debian or others) Um, FreeBSD is not Linux. If you mean open-source OS, saying linux is likely to mislead people; if you really do mean just Linux, saying FreeBSD is likely to mislead people the other way. /~\ The ASCII Mouse \ / Ribbon Campaign X Against HTMLmo...@rodents-montreal.org / \ Email! 7D C8 61 52 5D E7 2D 39 4E F1 31 3E E8 B3 27 4B ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Help linux image
João wrote: On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 9:02 AM, João Alberto Pereira de Araújo j.pereira.ara...@viaquanta.com wrote: Can anyone help me providing a minimalistic linux image of a distribuition (FreeBSD or Debian or others) to install on a device with 2 Gb free space? I have been happily running leaf, a miniature Linux designed for embedded systems (see leaf.sourceforge.net) on a Soekris net4801 for many years. This is WAY under 1 gb. Tim ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Help linux image
I prefer a debian derived distro called Voyage, which is small and specifically builds in support for Soekris models: http://linux.voyage.hk/ On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 11:15 AM, João Alberto Pereira de Araújo j.pereira.ara...@viaquanta.com wrote: Good afternoon. Can anyone help me providing a minimalistic linux image of a distribuition (FreeBSD or Debian or others) to install on a device with 2 Gb free space? With a good performace on the IO? Thanks in advance. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Clock losing time on Net5501
Lars Nood?n [lars.noo...@gmail.com] wrote: On 02/05/2013 01:54 PM, Soren Kristensen wrote: Hi Lars, Lars Nood?n wrote: I have a Net5501 that seems to be losing 90 seconds off the system clock when it is turned off for a while. Is there anything that can or should be done to fix this? That need to be qualified with time to be able to say if it's out of spec Thanks. How would I check that? I have ntpd starting with to set the time immediately at startup. But without that, I get log entries like these: Feb 1 08:43:33 net5501 ntpd[30196]: adjusting local clock by 94.899672s Am I interpreting that correctly? Do you start ntpd with -s? If not, it continually adjusts the clock to bring it up to current time, in relatively small increments. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Clock losing time on Net5501
On 02/05/2013 10:13 PM, Matt Lawrence wrote: On Tue, 5 Feb 2013, Lars Noodén wrote: Yes, I've recently started launching ntpd with -s to avoid the incremental adjustments. Without -s, it takes all day to catch up, usually 5 or so hours. I'm concerned that the clock is off by so much at cold boot. After the system time is brought back into sync are you resetting the hardware clock? See the hwclock command. It's running OpenBSD 5.2-stable. There's not the exact command 'hwclock'. Perhaps there is an OpenBSD analog. I'm finding this with 'apropos': hardclock (9) - real-time system clock but can't find a binary or man page. /Lars ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Clock losing time on Net5501
--- Lars Noodén wrote: but can't find a binary or man page. Here is a link to the man page for OpenBSD's hardclock(9): http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=hardclockapropos=0sektion=0manpath=OpenBSD+Currentarch=i386format=html Ken ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech