Re: [Soekris] Net6501 location of SATA ports

2013-05-17 Thread Robin Kipp
Hi all,
thanks so much for all your great replies and explanations! I just installed 
the drive and all is working very nicely from what I can tell so far.
Robin
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Re: [Soekris] net6501 : CPU architecture ?

2013-05-17 Thread Soren Kristensen

Hi List,

Christian Weisgerber wrote:




I don't expect Soekris to comment on 32 bs 64-bit, because the Intel
CPUs used in the net6501 officially do not support 64-bit mode.
Yes, it happens to work fine, but that's not something you can
guarantee, much less advertise.  Now that public attention has been
drawn to the issue, I wonder if Soeren might have to "fix" it.  Oh
well.


I have talked with Intel about it, but haven't managed to get any clear 
authoritive answer More like, yes, 64 bit is enabled, but we don't 
support the use of it ???


I don't think it will be dropped, some of Intel's NDA'ed embedded 
roadmaps have the E6xx series supporting 64 bit mode, but all released 
docs have the E6xx as 32 bit only. The only thing worrying me is if it's 
not tested so some parts may fail, but then, if the CPUID "Intel 64" bit 
are set then they kinda have to test it


And no, I can't do anything to affect it, either in the board hardware 
or BIOS, it's down in the processor core.



Now that Intel has announced the new Silvermont Atoms with all the
goodies (AES-NI, RDRAND, and of course 64-bit mode), I'm wondering
how long it will take for these to trickle through to Soekris-format
boxes.


Will be the net6801, but no firm schedule yet from Intel.


Best Regards,


Soren Kristensen

CEO & Chief Engineer
Soekris Engineering, Inc.


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Re: [Soekris] Net6501 location of SATA ports

2013-05-17 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2013-05-17 18:22:41 +0200 (+0200), Robin Kipp wrote:
[...]
> I was just wondering if someone on here could be kind enough to
> tell me where abouts they are?
[...]

The SATA ports are located in the extreme opposite corner from the
DC input power barrel connector of the board itself. If you're
having someone locate them on the board, they are right next to one
another with the outermost (SATA Port 0 Connector) labeled J1 and
the other (SATA Port 1 Connector) labeled J2. The SATA Power
Connector on the board (there's only one) is labeled J18 and is
located near the SATA connectors, next to them (though there is a
mounting hole immediately between them) on the same edge of the
board where the PCI connector also juts out.

Hope that helps!
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Re: [Soekris] Net6501 location of SATA ports

2013-05-17 Thread Peter Neubauer

Robin,

The SATA ports are on the corner of the board opposite the corner with 
the reset button and power connector.  In other words, put the board 
face up in front of you with the power connector facing you.  The SATA 
ports are on the top left corner.  They're labelled J1 and J2.


For SATA power, you'll need an adapter like that sold with the Soekris 
HDD mounting kit 
(http://soekris.com/products/net6501/2-5-sata-hard-drive-mounting-kit-for-the-net6501-std.html). 
I think my board came with this power adapter, but I could be mistaken.  
The power connector is a 5 pin connector labelled JP18.  It's located 
along the edge between the SATA ports and the PCIe slot, closest to the 
SATA ports.


-Peter


On 5/17/2013 10:22 AM, Robin Kipp wrote:

Hello all!
I'm the proud owner of a Net6501 and have been running Linux on it for about 
half a year now. I am completely blind, however when I received the device it 
was no problem for me to open the case, install the MSATA SSD, put the case 
back together and get everything going.
However, I just purchased an SATA HD which I'd like to install and connect to 
the mainboard. Unfortunately, I was not very fortunate when trying to find the 
ports on the board where the SATA and power cables for the HD get plugged in. 
I've been carefully exploring the Net6501, however with all the connectors and 
pins I wasn't able to find the appropriate ports. Thus, I was just wondering if 
someone on here could be kind enough to tell me where abouts they are? In case 
this won't work out I could as well ask someone, in this case it would be 
really great for me to know if the ports are labelled in any way so I know what 
I have to ask for.
Thanks a lot, any help would be greatly appreciated! :-)
Best wishes,
Robin.


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[Soekris] Net6501 location of SATA ports

2013-05-17 Thread Robin Kipp
Hello all!
I'm the proud owner of a Net6501 and have been running Linux on it for about 
half a year now. I am completely blind, however when I received the device it 
was no problem for me to open the case, install the MSATA SSD, put the case 
back together and get everything going.
However, I just purchased an SATA HD which I'd like to install and connect to 
the mainboard. Unfortunately, I was not very fortunate when trying to find the 
ports on the board where the SATA and power cables for the HD get plugged in. 
I've been carefully exploring the Net6501, however with all the connectors and 
pins I wasn't able to find the appropriate ports. Thus, I was just wondering if 
someone on here could be kind enough to tell me where abouts they are? In case 
this won't work out I could as well ask someone, in this case it would be 
really great for me to know if the ports are labelled in any way so I know what 
I have to ask for.
Thanks a lot, any help would be greatly appreciated! :-)
Best wishes,
Robin.
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Re: [Soekris] net6501 : CPU architecture ?

2013-05-17 Thread Christian Weisgerber
David Ruggiero  wrote:

> So from this discussion, as far as I can tell,
> I have a choice of _four_ different OpenBSD kernels that could
> legitimately be booted on my net6501 and would probably run:
> 
> 32-bit i386 uniprocessor
> 32-bit i386 SMP
> 64-bit amd64 uniprocessor
> 64-bit amd64 SMP

OpenBSD/i386 and /amd64 are different architectures, so the userland
is different, not just the kernel.  But yes, all of the above do
run on the net6501.

> A different company than Soekris might do some quick testing, or at
> least provide some pithy engineering insight and give its customers a
> quick rundown from their point of view on the advantages and
> disadvantages of 32 vs 64bit and non-smp vs smp - whether in general,
> or for specific common application needs.

I don't expect Soekris to comment on 32 bs 64-bit, because the Intel
CPUs used in the net6501 officially do not support 64-bit mode.
Yes, it happens to work fine, but that's not something you can
guarantee, much less advertise.  Now that public attention has been
drawn to the issue, I wonder if Soeren might have to "fix" it.  Oh
well.

Now that Intel has announced the new Silvermont Atoms with all the
goodies (AES-NI, RDRAND, and of course 64-bit mode), I'm wondering
how long it will take for these to trickle through to Soekris-format
boxes.

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Christian "naddy" Weisgerber  na...@mips.inka.de
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