Re: Licensing error R2-SP2 (was ""86269SFTIMSIB_2016_0F")

[hk-vndr]

 

Have you tried Autodesk's licensing parser to validate your file: 

http://www.licenseparser.com/ 

Cheers, 

Henry 

On 2015-12-10 10:17, Leendert A. Hartog wrote: 

> Could there be something wrong with my license file?
> Is there someone who could check this, where I could send my current license 
> file to?
> Normal "interfaced" Softimage 2015 and Maya 2016 run properly off it,
> Only problem I've faced so far are the missing "2016" batch licenses...
> 
> Greetz
> Leendert
> AKA Hirazi Blue
> Softimage hobbyist, admin at si-community.com & xsiforum.de
> 
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Maurice Patel
> Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2015 4:44 PM
> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> Subject: RE: Licensing error R2-SP2 (was ""86269SFTIMSIB_2016_0F")
> 
> I can help clarify. There is no difference. There was no Softimage 2016 so 
> for the 2016 release of the Suites and the Maya/3ds Max bundles a 'bridge' 
> had to be created for Softimage 2015 to go into the new offering. This was 
> the R2 version and apart from licensing requirements there was no change in 
> the software. The only software updates have been the service packs which 
> were issued separately. Our QA team reported today that they have not yet 
> identified an issue in their tests (Batch is working) but that they are 
> continuing to look into this.
> 
> Maurice Patel
> Tél: 514 954-7134
> Cell: 514 242-6549
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Ponthieux, 
> Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES II]
> Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2015 9:53 AM
> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> Subject: Re: Licensing error R2-SP2 (was ""86269SFTIMSIB_2016_0F")
> 
> I just installed 2016 ECSU and recalled seeing this in the release notes:
> 
> https://knowledge.autodesk.com/sites/default/files/entertainment_creation_s 
> [1]
> uites_2016_readme_enu.htm
> 
> The Softimage Notes suggest that SI 15 and 16 are identical. I suspected 
> Softimage would be renamed 2016 in order to keep it included in the suites 
> and keep it's identity as a suite component for reference. Thing is it says 
> that that version with the 2016 suite is not "Softimage 2016 R2" but 
> "Softimage 2015 R2" and that 2015 R2 only works with 2016 license keys.
> The installer doesn't install it automatically as in the past, but it does 
> copy the necessary installation package to do so manually. I never installed 
> it, figured I'd wait till next year to see if a final SP comes out.
> 
> Looking at these notes you'd think the only thing they spend any time working 
> on is FBX but all you have to do is open Maya 2016 to know that¹s not the 
> case. It would be nice though to have more information on what if anything 
> makes these Softimage versions any different, assuming they might be.
> 
> Joey
> 
> On 12/9/15 5:15 PM, "softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com on behalf of 
> Leendert A. Hartog"  hirazib...@live.nl> wrote:
> Thanks. The installed version is the R2-SP2 that is bundled with the license 
> for Maya 2016. It was my impression that SP2 and R2-SP weren't identical, 
> otherwise there wouldn't be a reason to distribute two different versions. 
> But I could be mistaken... Greetz Leendert AKA Hirazi Blue Softimage 
> hobbyist, admin at si-community.com & xsiforum.de -Oorspronkelijk 
> bericht- From: Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES II] Sent: Wednesday, 
> December 9, 2015 10:58 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: RE: 
> Licensing error R2-SP2 (was ""86269SFTIMSIB_2016_0F") Leendert, Is your 
> install base strictly Softimage or is it a suite? I presume whatever it is it 
> must be installed from a 2016 package? There was a warning somewhere that 
> said the two versions should not be installed at the same time. Is it 
> possible you have both installed somehow? When I run xsibatch here using the 
> 2015 version, it tells me it is checking out: 
> ===
Autodesk Softimage 13.0.114.0 
=== License information: 
using [86269SFTIMSIB_2015_0F] I don't have SI 2016 R2 installed. If your 
version is looking to something with 2016 license code in it, it must be the SI 
2016 R2 version that you are trying to run? The reason I ask is that since the 
SI 2015 SP2 package is supposed to be identical (?) to the SI 2016 R2 package, 
it might be possible to uninstall the 2016 version and install the 2015 one 
that way the 2015 software might only look for licenses with "2015" in it. 
Maybe that will let you get production going till the problem is sorted out? -- 
Joey Ponthieux LaRC Information Technology Enhanced Services (LITES II) Science 
Systems and Applications Inc. (SSAI) NASA Langley Research Center 
__ Opinions stated here-in are 
strictly those 

Re: Best graphic card for Softimage?

[hk-vndr]

 

Has anyone considered these machines for multi-GPU applications? 

http://www.thinkmate.com/systems/supermicro/gpu [4] 

I would configure them here and then purchase from superbiiz.com or
wherever your best pricing is. 

I have their servers running for my infrastructure and am quite happy
otherwise (USA pricing). 

Cheers, 

Henry 

On 2014-12-30 14:09, Tim Leydecker wrote: 

 Regarding the HPZ820 and the 1100+W PSU, I would have hoped for a 
 better structured HP homepage, making it easier to find out if splitting
 a 6pin into two 6 pin (or 6pin and 6pin+2 for a GTX980) would work
 or stress the lane(s) beyond it´s limit.
 
 The HP 8xx´s generally don´t provide dangling Molex connectors, btw. 
 
 There is loads and loads of information burried somewhere but what is missing
 is a simple button labeled CONTACT FOR INFORMATION. 
 
 I would want to ask, do you have a cable set for a HP8xx series PSU that will
 give me 4x6pin and if so, how much?
 
 Those machines cost a couple of a thousand dollars/euros but it´s proven
 easier to find gaming component related hardwaresetup information in 
 the depths of the internet.
 
 In conclusion, that´s why I wanted to share and point out that there is a good
 chance to run two GT970 cards (w/175W consumption each) using a clever
 combination of a cable kit + an extra Y splitter but I wouldn´t want to pull
 loads of Watts trough the split 6pin connections either.
 
 I´d think 2xGPU á la GT970 would be stable BUT
 
 for a brute force level 4xGPU machine, I´d also look for another 
 mainboard+PSU+cooling+case
 
 Anyway, personally, I´ll wait for a GTx9xxTI now...
 
 Cheers,
 
 tim
 
 Am 30.12.2014 um 16:45 schrieb Raffaele Fragapane: 
 Damn premature sends! If you go molex to 6pin make sure it's with a dual 
 molex adapter, while good PSUs can deliver a lot more on them, standard molex 
 spec is 40W, while 6pin is 75W. 
 
 On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 2:42 AM, Raffaele Fragapane 
 raffsxsil...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
 800W PSU not CPU, though a CPU with an 800W TDP would be interesting to cool 
 :p 
 
 On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 2:30 AM, Raffaele Fragapane 
 raffsxsil...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
 Splitting the outlet might or might not work out for you. While it's touted 
 as a feature a large majority of high output PSUs are multirail because it's 
 generally cheap to provide multiple stable lines than one large pipe 
 distributed arbitrarily over N cables.
 What that boils down to is that if you have an 800W CPU, but it's a multirail 
 with the 6pin on a 120W necked line (hard coupled), and you fork it to two 
 videocards for a 200W pull, you are going at the very least to run a very hot 
 PSU, and at the worst to set it on fire :p
 And if you think Dell or HP use premium components, especially for the PSUs, 
 think again, more often than not even their workstation grade components have 
 been, at one point or another, extremely subpar.
 
 You can always convert another rail if you have a multi rail. 6pins aren't 
 anything magic, they still run two or three sublines like anything else and a 
 molex on a spare rail should be convertible to 6pin. If you have a quality 
 single rail PSU, you should be able to safely split. 
 
 On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 10:56 PM, Tim Leydecker bauero...@gmx.de wrote:
 
 It´s good to write things like this, I guess.
 
 A minute later I found the HP part number:
 
 Hewlett Packard 6PIN TO DUAL-6PIN GRAPHICS ADAPTER 
 F5J05AA
 
 This let´s you split a 6pin connection to 2x6pin.
 
 --
 
 Similar adapters are available from 3rd party vendors.
 
 I can´t tell how well this would work when using hot nVidia 7xx range cards
 but the gt 970 cards are spec´d for needing roughly 150W, drawing around 180W 
 in 
 actual test scenarios.
 
 --
 
 I´d guess that would allow a stable 2xGPU system (using a HP 1100+W PSU)
 but for a 3-4xGPU system, I´d actually revert my suggestion and go 
 home/custom built.
 
 Cheers,
 
 tim
 
 Am 30.12.2014 um 12:04 schrieb Tim Leydecker: 
 
 I was suggesting to also look into refurbished HP Z800/Z820/Z840 workstations 
 as a basis for building a multi-GPU plattform.
 
 There is a grain of salt.
 
 Most if not all graphics cards come expecting an additional 2x6pin power 
 supply,
 e.g. 75W from the PCIe slot, plus 75W from each 6pin connection, there are
 Quadro cards that are spec´ed for 150W power consumption but most
 gaming cards will excess that 150 W drain limit. 
 
 You´d need at least 4 6pin connections for 2 gaming cards.
 
 The HP Z8++ series may present problems because of the way the PSU provides
 these 6 pin connections in a vendor specific cable kit.
 
 There are several cable kits available but I haven´t found a 4x6pin kit sofar.
 This could be a dissapointment for anyone looking into get such a plattform.
 
 Of course, there is a chance I missed something from the datasheets and spare 
 parts
 listings, as well as a chance the HPZ840 doesn´t have such a limitation.
 
 Worth mentioning anyway.
 
 Cheers,
 
 tim 
 

Re: Best graphic card for Softimage?

[hk-vndr]

 

Just a few more clicks: 

http://www.thinkmate.com/system/superserver-4027gr-tr [5] 

Agreed these are loud but not as bad as they used to be though they are
intended to go in the server room on a rack. In years past I actually
ran 50' cabling for kbd/mouse/video to my desk. 

I would suggest if you want it in front of you to get this: 

http://www.thinkmate.com/systems/supermicro/superworkstation/gpu [6] 

On 2014-12-30 14:45, Leoung O'Young wrote: 

 Your link is to 1 U or 2 U servers, modern gaming GPU will not fit and based 
 on my past experience they are very loud.
 They may have improved the noise level now.
 
 On 30/12/2014 3:37 PM, hk-v...@iscs-i.com wrote: 
 
 Has anyone considered these machines for multi-GPU applications? 
 
 http://www.thinkmate.com/systems/supermicro/gpu [1] 
 
 I would configure them here and then purchase from superbiiz.com or wherever 
 your best pricing is. 
 
 I have their servers running for my infrastructure and am quite happy 
 otherwise (USA pricing). 
 
 Cheers, 
 
 Henry 
 
 On 2014-12-30 14:09, Tim Leydecker wrote: Regarding the HPZ820 and the 1100+W 
 PSU, I would have hoped for a 
 better structured HP homepage, making it easier to find out if splitting
 a 6pin into two 6 pin (or 6pin and 6pin+2 for a GTX980) would work
 or stress the lane(s) beyond it´s limit.
 
 The HP 8xx´s generally don´t provide dangling Molex connectors, btw. 
 
 There is loads and loads of information burried somewhere but what is missing
 is a simple button labeled CONTACT FOR INFORMATION. 
 
 I would want to ask, do you have a cable set for a HP8xx series PSU that will
 give me 4x6pin and if so, how much?
 
 Those machines cost a couple of a thousand dollars/euros but it´s proven
 easier to find gaming component related hardwaresetup information in 
 the depths of the internet.
 
 In conclusion, that´s why I wanted to share and point out that there is a good
 chance to run two GT970 cards (w/175W consumption each) using a clever
 combination of a cable kit + an extra Y splitter but I wouldn´t want to pull
 loads of Watts trough the split 6pin connections either.
 
 I´d think 2xGPU á la GT970 would be stable BUT
 
 for a brute force level 4xGPU machine, I´d also look for another 
 mainboard+PSU+cooling+case
 
 Anyway, personally, I´ll wait for a GTx9xxTI now...
 
 Cheers,
 
 tim
 
 Am 30.12.2014 um 16:45 schrieb Raffaele Fragapane: 
 Damn premature sends! If you go molex to 6pin make sure it's with a dual 
 molex adapter, while good PSUs can deliver a lot more on them, standard molex 
 spec is 40W, while 6pin is 75W. 
 
 On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 2:42 AM, Raffaele Fragapane 
 raffsxsil...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
 800W PSU not CPU, though a CPU with an 800W TDP would be interesting to cool 
 :p 
 
 On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 2:30 AM, Raffaele Fragapane 
 raffsxsil...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
 Splitting the outlet might or might not work out for you. While it's touted 
 as a feature a large majority of high output PSUs are multirail because it's 
 generally cheap to provide multiple stable lines than one large pipe 
 distributed arbitrarily over N cables. What that boils down to is that if you 
 have an 800W CPU, but it's a multirail with the 6pin on a 120W necked line 
 (hard coupled), and you fork it to two videocards for a 200W pull, you are 
 going at the very least to run a very hot PSU, and at the worst to set it on 
 fire :p And if you think Dell or HP use premium components, especially for 
 the PSUs, think again, more often than not even their workstation grade 
 components have been, at one point or another, extremely subpar. 
 You can always convert another rail if you have a multi rail. 6pins aren't 
 anything magic, they still run two or three sublines like anything else and a 
 molex on a spare rail should be convertible to 6pin. If you have a quality 
 single rail PSU, you should be able to safely split. 
 
 On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 10:56 PM, Tim Leydecker bauero...@gmx.de wrote:
 
 It´s good to write things like this, I guess.
 
 A minute later I found the HP part number:
 
 Hewlett Packard 6PIN TO DUAL-6PIN GRAPHICS ADAPTER 
 F5J05AA
 
 This let´s you split a 6pin connection to 2x6pin.
 
 --
 
 Similar adapters are available from 3rd party vendors.
 
 I can´t tell how well this would work when using hot nVidia 7xx range cards
 but the gt 970 cards are spec´d for needing roughly 150W, drawing around 180W 
 in 
 actual test scenarios.
 
 --
 
 I´d guess that would allow a stable 2xGPU system (using a HP 1100+W PSU)
 but for a 3-4xGPU system, I´d actually revert my suggestion and go 
 home/custom built.
 
 Cheers,
 
 tim
 
 Am 30.12.2014 um 12:04 schrieb Tim Leydecker: 
 
 I was suggesting to also look into refurbished HP Z800/Z820/Z840 workstations 
 as a basis for building a multi-GPU plattform.
 
 There is a grain of salt.
 
 Most if not all graphics cards come expecting an additional 2x6pin power 
 supply,
 e.g. 75W from the PCIe slot, plus 75W from each 6pin connection, 

Re: Best graphic card for Softimage?

[hk-vndr]

 

I am upgrading to this one: 

http://www.thinkmate.com/system/superworkstation-7037a-i [8] 

hopefully will see it by next week.. 

On 2014-12-30 15:20, Cristobal Infante wrote: 

 I had a look at those machine, they are big but really powerful. You can add 
 1TB of ram!, doubt any other machine can offer that for the price?
 
 On Tuesday, 30 December 2014, hk-v...@iscs-i.com wrote: 
 
 Just a few more clicks: 
 
 http://www.thinkmate.com/system/superserver-4027gr-tr [1] 
 
 Agreed these are loud but not as bad as they used to be though they are 
 intended to go in the server room on a rack. In years past I actually ran 50' 
 cabling for kbd/mouse/video to my desk. 
 
 I would suggest if you want it in front of you to get this: 
 
 http://www.thinkmate.com/systems/supermicro/superworkstation/gpu [2] 
 
 On 2014-12-30 14:45, Leoung O'Young wrote: 
 Your link is to 1 U or 2 U servers, modern gaming GPU will not fit and based 
 on my past experience they are very loud.
 They may have improved the noise level now.
 
 On 30/12/2014 3:37 PM, hk-v...@iscs-i.com wrote: 
 
 Has anyone considered these machines for multi-GPU applications? 
 
 http://www.thinkmate.com/systems/supermicro/gpu [3] 
 
 I would configure them here and then purchase from superbiiz.com [4] or 
 wherever your best pricing is. 
 
 I have their servers running for my infrastructure and am quite happy 
 otherwise (USA pricing). 
 
 Cheers, 
 
 Henry 
 
 On 2014-12-30 14:09, Tim Leydecker wrote: Regarding the HPZ820 and the 1100+W 
 PSU, I would have hoped for a 
 better structured HP homepage, making it easier to find out if splitting
 a 6pin into two 6 pin (or 6pin and 6pin+2 for a GTX980) would work
 or stress the lane(s) beyond it´s limit.
 
 The HP 8xx´s generally don´t provide dangling Molex connectors, btw. 
 
 There is loads and loads of information burried somewhere but what is missing
 is a simple button labeled CONTACT FOR INFORMATION. 
 
 I would want to ask, do you have a cable set for a HP8xx series PSU that will
 give me 4x6pin and if so, how much?
 
 Those machines cost a couple of a thousand dollars/euros but it´s proven
 easier to find gaming component related hardwaresetup information in 
 the depths of the internet.
 
 In conclusion, that´s why I wanted to share and point out that there is a good
 chance to run two GT970 cards (w/175W consumption each) using a clever
 combination of a cable kit + an extra Y splitter but I wouldn´t want to pull
 loads of Watts trough the split 6pin connections either.
 
 I´d think 2xGPU á la GT970 would be stable BUT
 
 for a brute force level 4xGPU machine, I´d also look for another 
 mainboard+PSU+cooling+case
 
 Anyway, personally, I´ll wait for a GTx9xxTI now...
 
 Cheers,
 
 tim
 
 Am 30.12.2014 um 16:45 schrieb Raffaele Fragapane: 
 Damn premature sends! If you go molex to 6pin make sure it's with a dual 
 molex adapter, while good PSUs can deliver a lot more on them, standard molex 
 spec is 40W, while 6pin is 75W. 
 
 On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 2:42 AM, Raffaele Fragapane 
 raffsxsil...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
 800W PSU not CPU, though a CPU with an 800W TDP would be interesting to cool 
 :p 
 
 On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 2:30 AM, Raffaele Fragapane 
 raffsxsil...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
 Splitting the outlet might or might not work out for you. While it's touted 
 as a feature a large majority of high output PSUs are multirail because it's 
 generally cheap to provide multiple stable lines than one large pipe 
 distributed arbitrarily over N cables. What that boils down to is that if you 
 have an 800W CPU, but it's a multirail with the 6pin on a 120W necked line 
 (hard coupled), and you fork it to two videocards for a 200W pull, you are 
 going at the very least to run a very hot PSU, and at the worst to set it on 
 fire :p And if you think Dell or HP use premium components, especially for 
 the PSUs, think again, more often than not even their workstation grade 
 components have been, at one point or another, extremely subpar. 
 You can always convert another rail if you have a multi rail. 6pins aren't 
 anything magic, they still run two or three sublines like anything else and a 
 molex on a spare rail should be convertible to 6pin. If you have a quality 
 single rail PSU, you should be able to safely split. 
 
 On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 10:56 PM, Tim Leydecker bauero...@gmx.de wrote:
 
 It´s good to write things like this, I guess.
 
 A minute later I found the HP part number:
 
 Hewlett Packard 6PIN TO DUAL-6PIN GRAPHICS ADAPTER 
 F5J05AA
 
 This let´s you split a 6pin connection to 2x6pin.
 
 --
 
 Similar adapters are available from 3rd party vendors.
 
 I can´t tell how well this would work when using hot nVidia 7xx range cards
 but the gt 970 cards are spec´d for needing roughly 150W, drawing around 180W 
 in 
 actual test scenarios.
 
 --
 
 I´d guess that would allow a stable 2xGPU system (using a HP 1100+W PSU)
 but for a 3-4xGPU system, I´d actually revert my suggestion and 

Re: Best graphic card for Softimage?

[hk-vndr]

 

Thanks for the info. 

My desktop was a custom build but of consumer level components.
Infrastructure has migrated to supermicro fat twin servers which appear
to blow cool air. Wonder if this desktop: 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816139087 [1] 

would have better longevity? 

On 2014-12-11 22:44, Raffaele Fragapane wrote: 

 It sounds like you were well past the 15000 hours mark on those components. 
 Practically no non-enterprise gear is guaranteed to work continuously for 
 that long. Most is considered to have a reliable life of 10k, after which you 
 roll the dice. 
 
 A couple mobos for what sounds like 25k or more hours of active duty is 
 nothing to sneeze at. 
 
 You could buy/set up better ventilation in the casing, but it's unlikely that 
 just heat, especially if it was never going past 50 ambient, was shortening 
 component life much. 
 
 And yes, everybody has their stories of hardware that lasted fifteen years, 
 and cars that were still good after 25 miles, but that's not the average 
 mileage you should expect from consumer level hardware, or even non-server 
 oriented hardware in general. 
 
 On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 3:08 PM, hk-v...@iscs-i.com wrote: 
 
 Average temp ran around high 50's Celsius and rarely touched 70 C on a major 
 render. It was on nearly continuously for 3 years until mobo died in Feb then 
 Nov (warranty covered both). Any links for better cooling appreciated. 
 
 Thanks, 
 
 Henry 
 
 On 2014-12-11 17:32, James De Colling wrote: 
 thats bizarre, I had a quadro4000 in my old machine for 2 years without a 
 problem. it was on 24/7 
 
 now I have a 770TI and again, its on 24/7 
 
 maybe look at some better cooling solutions? 
 
 cheers 
 
 james, 
 
 On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 10:28 AM, hk-vndr hk-v...@iscs-i.com wrote:
 
 Apologies to my thumbs. I meant how long do you keep your computer on with a 
 card that generates such heat? 
 
 In my case, I've had to replace my mobo twice this year from my Nvidia quadro 
 4000. 
 
 Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone 
 
  Original message  
 From: Mirko Jankovic 
 Date:12/11/2014 2:32 PM (GMT-05:00) 
 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com 
 Subject: Re: Best graphic card for Softimage? 
 
 How long can you can your computer on with this card in it?
 
 Sry but clarification please? 
 
 On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 2:28 PM, hk-v...@iscs-i.com wrote:
 
 How long can you can your computer on with this card in it? 
 
 On 2014-12-11 05:36, Mario Reitbauer wrote: 
 
 Got the msi gtx 970 gaming 4g. Quite happy with it. 
 
 2014-12-11 10:03 GMT+01:00 Mirko Jankovic mirkoj.anima...@gmail.com:
 
 right now 970 is best bang for backs. 
 they do not heat too much, power consumption is prety low and they do really 
 good job. 
 and on top of that Redshift as perfect companion ;) 
 viewport performance is not that big issue at all between two cards but being 
 able to utilise GPU rendering with CUDA is way more higher on the list then 
 couple more FPS in viewport 
 
 On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 9:26 AM, Christoph Muetze c...@glarestudios.de 
 wrote:
 I'd stay clear of the ATI/AMD consumer cards if I were you. From our
 experience Soft becomes generally less stable (crashing a lot more), and
 the raycast selection is going haywire sometimes.
 
 Chris
 
 On 11/12/14 04:44, phil harbath wrote:
 I went Redshift and have been very pleased. I can get by using a lot less 
 computers than before on most projects, volume smoke is pretty much all I 
 use MR for anymore. I have several computers with a combination of 780TI, 
 770, and 970, while I think the 780Ti give the best performance, it really 
 makes more sense to buy the 970 as they are priced better or 980 if you have 
 more cash. The Redshift say go with the cards with the most ram (that would 
 be Titan 6tb, if you got even more cash), depends on your needs of course.

 From: David Rivera
 Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 8:51 PM
 To: Softimage Mailing List
 Subject: Best graphic card for Softimage?

 I know this subject has been posted a lot over the years, but it happens 
 that I read a benchmark performance between autodesk products on certain 
 webpage. They tested Radeons vs Nvidias and turns out that Mudbox and 
 Softimage ran better on AMD (Radeons) - this is mental ray render.


 So I was wondering whether to go full on mental ray (CPU) or take my savings 
 and put it on a GPU renderer? Either case, now a days, which is the middle 
 ranked graphic card for softimage? (My budget is around 1k).


 Thanks.

 David Rivera
 3D Compositor/Animator
 LinkedIN
 Behance
 VFX Reel


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Our users will know fear and cower before our software! Ship it! Ship it
and let them flee like the dogs they are! 

 

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Re: Best graphic card for Softimage?

[hk-vndr]

 

Read many horror stories but never that bad. Even 3D mark never cranked
it past 70 C. 

On 2014-12-12 02:39, Dan Yargici wrote: 

 The Quadro 4000s are TERRIBLE when it comes to cooling. I seem to remember 
 that they were idling at ~90 degrees C... 
 
 DAN 
 
 On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 6:44 AM, Raffaele Fragapane 
 raffsxsil...@googlemail.com wrote: 
 It sounds like you were well past the 15000 hours mark on those components. 
 Practically no non-enterprise gear is guaranteed to work continuously for 
 that long. Most is considered to have a reliable life of 10k, after which you 
 roll the dice. 
 
 A couple mobos for what sounds like 25k or more hours of active duty is 
 nothing to sneeze at. 
 
 You could buy/set up better ventilation in the casing, but it's unlikely that 
 just heat, especially if it was never going past 50 ambient, was shortening 
 component life much. 
 
 And yes, everybody has their stories of hardware that lasted fifteen years, 
 and cars that were still good after 25 miles, but that's not the average 
 mileage you should expect from consumer level hardware, or even non-server 
 oriented hardware in general. 
 
 On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 3:08 PM, hk-v...@iscs-i.com wrote: 
 
 Average temp ran around high 50's Celsius and rarely touched 70 C on a major 
 render. It was on nearly continuously for 3 years until mobo died in Feb then 
 Nov (warranty covered both). Any links for better cooling appreciated. 
 
 Thanks, 
 
 Henry 
 
 On 2014-12-11 17:32, James De Colling wrote: 
 thats bizarre, I had a quadro4000 in my old machine for 2 years without a 
 problem. it was on 24/7 
 
 now I have a 770TI and again, its on 24/7 
 
 maybe look at some better cooling solutions? 
 
 cheers 
 
 james, 
 
 On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 10:28 AM, hk-vndr hk-v...@iscs-i.com wrote:
 
 Apologies to my thumbs. I meant how long do you keep your computer on with a 
 card that generates such heat? 
 
 In my case, I've had to replace my mobo twice this year from my Nvidia quadro 
 4000. 
 
 Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone 
 
  Original message  
 From: Mirko Jankovic 
 Date:12/11/2014 2:32 PM (GMT-05:00) 
 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com 
 Subject: Re: Best graphic card for Softimage? 
 
 How long can you can your computer on with this card in it?
 
 Sry but clarification please? 
 
 On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 2:28 PM, hk-v...@iscs-i.com wrote:
 
 How long can you can your computer on with this card in it? 
 
 On 2014-12-11 05:36, Mario Reitbauer wrote: 
 
 Got the msi gtx 970 gaming 4g. Quite happy with it. 
 
 2014-12-11 10:03 GMT+01:00 Mirko Jankovic mirkoj.anima...@gmail.com:
 
 right now 970 is best bang for backs. 
 they do not heat too much, power consumption is prety low and they do really 
 good job. 
 and on top of that Redshift as perfect companion ;) 
 viewport performance is not that big issue at all between two cards but being 
 able to utilise GPU rendering with CUDA is way more higher on the list then 
 couple more FPS in viewport 
 
 On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 9:26 AM, Christoph Muetze c...@glarestudios.de 
 wrote:
 I'd stay clear of the ATI/AMD consumer cards if I were you. From our
 experience Soft becomes generally less stable (crashing a lot more), and
 the raycast selection is going haywire sometimes.
 
 Chris
 
 On 11/12/14 04:44, phil harbath wrote:
 I went Redshift and have been very pleased. I can get by using a lot less 
 computers than before on most projects, volume smoke is pretty much all I 
 use MR for anymore. I have several computers with a combination of 780TI, 
 770, and 970, while I think the 780Ti give the best performance, it really 
 makes more sense to buy the 970 as they are priced better or 980 if you have 
 more cash. The Redshift say go with the cards with the most ram (that would 
 be Titan 6tb, if you got even more cash), depends on your needs of course.

 From: David Rivera
 Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 8:51 PM
 To: Softimage Mailing List
 Subject: Best graphic card for Softimage?

 I know this subject has been posted a lot over the years, but it happens 
 that I read a benchmark performance between autodesk products on certain 
 webpage. They tested Radeons vs Nvidias and turns out that Mudbox and 
 Softimage ran better on AMD (Radeons) - this is mental ray render.


 So I was wondering whether to go full on mental ray (CPU) or take my savings 
 and put it on a GPU renderer? Either case, now a days, which is the middle 
 ranked graphic card for softimage? (My budget is around 1k).


 Thanks.

 David Rivera
 3D Compositor/Animator
 LinkedIN
 Behance
 VFX Reel


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Re: Best graphic card for Softimage?

[hk-vndr]

 

Thanks. Will investigate further. 

Probably better if you are located way above the 42nd parallel. 

On 2014-12-12 03:04, Mirko Jankovic wrote: 

 well I do have 4 titans stacked in one cmp and 4x 970 on another, they do 
 heat up the room :) but cards itself are fine. 970s rarely go over 60, titans 
 can hit 5-10 degrees more. 
 but good cooler room and cases and all ok 
 
 On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 9:39 AM, Dan Yargici danyarg...@gmail.com wrote: 
 The Quadro 4000s are TERRIBLE when it comes to cooling. I seem to remember 
 that they were idling at ~90 degrees C... 
 
 DAN 
 
 On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 6:44 AM, Raffaele Fragapane 
 raffsxsil...@googlemail.com wrote: 
 It sounds like you were well past the 15000 hours mark on those components. 
 Practically no non-enterprise gear is guaranteed to work continuously for 
 that long. Most is considered to have a reliable life of 10k, after which you 
 roll the dice. 
 
 A couple mobos for what sounds like 25k or more hours of active duty is 
 nothing to sneeze at. 
 
 You could buy/set up better ventilation in the casing, but it's unlikely that 
 just heat, especially if it was never going past 50 ambient, was shortening 
 component life much. 
 
 And yes, everybody has their stories of hardware that lasted fifteen years, 
 and cars that were still good after 25 miles, but that's not the average 
 mileage you should expect from consumer level hardware, or even non-server 
 oriented hardware in general. 
 
 On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 3:08 PM, hk-v...@iscs-i.com wrote: 
 
 Average temp ran around high 50's Celsius and rarely touched 70 C on a major 
 render. It was on nearly continuously for 3 years until mobo died in Feb then 
 Nov (warranty covered both). Any links for better cooling appreciated. 
 
 Thanks, 
 
 Henry 
 
 On 2014-12-11 17:32, James De Colling wrote: 
 thats bizarre, I had a quadro4000 in my old machine for 2 years without a 
 problem. it was on 24/7 
 
 now I have a 770TI and again, its on 24/7 
 
 maybe look at some better cooling solutions? 
 
 cheers 
 
 james, 
 
 On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 10:28 AM, hk-vndr hk-v...@iscs-i.com wrote:
 
 Apologies to my thumbs. I meant how long do you keep your computer on with a 
 card that generates such heat? 
 
 In my case, I've had to replace my mobo twice this year from my Nvidia quadro 
 4000. 
 
 Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone 
 
  Original message  
 From: Mirko Jankovic 
 Date:12/11/2014 2:32 PM (GMT-05:00) 
 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com 
 Subject: Re: Best graphic card for Softimage? 
 
 How long can you can your computer on with this card in it?
 
 Sry but clarification please? 
 
 On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 2:28 PM, hk-v...@iscs-i.com wrote:
 
 How long can you can your computer on with this card in it? 
 
 On 2014-12-11 05:36, Mario Reitbauer wrote: 
 
 Got the msi gtx 970 gaming 4g. Quite happy with it. 
 
 2014-12-11 10:03 GMT+01:00 Mirko Jankovic mirkoj.anima...@gmail.com:
 
 right now 970 is best bang for backs. 
 they do not heat too much, power consumption is prety low and they do really 
 good job. 
 and on top of that Redshift as perfect companion ;) 
 viewport performance is not that big issue at all between two cards but being 
 able to utilise GPU rendering with CUDA is way more higher on the list then 
 couple more FPS in viewport 
 
 On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 9:26 AM, Christoph Muetze c...@glarestudios.de 
 wrote:
 I'd stay clear of the ATI/AMD consumer cards if I were you. From our
 experience Soft becomes generally less stable (crashing a lot more), and
 the raycast selection is going haywire sometimes.
 
 Chris
 
 On 11/12/14 04:44, phil harbath wrote:
 I went Redshift and have been very pleased. I can get by using a lot less 
 computers than before on most projects, volume smoke is pretty much all I 
 use MR for anymore. I have several computers with a combination of 780TI, 
 770, and 970, while I think the 780Ti give the best performance, it really 
 makes more sense to buy the 970 as they are priced better or 980 if you have 
 more cash. The Redshift say go with the cards with the most ram (that would 
 be Titan 6tb, if you got even more cash), depends on your needs of course.

 From: David Rivera
 Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 8:51 PM
 To: Softimage Mailing List
 Subject: Best graphic card for Softimage?

 I know this subject has been posted a lot over the years, but it happens 
 that I read a benchmark performance between autodesk products on certain 
 webpage. They tested Radeons vs Nvidias and turns out that Mudbox and 
 Softimage ran better on AMD (Radeons) - this is mental ray render.


 So I was wondering whether to go full on mental ray (CPU) or take my savings 
 and put it on a GPU renderer? Either case, now a days, which is the middle 
 ranked graphic card for softimage? (My budget is around 1k).


 Thanks.

 David Rivera
 3D Compositor/Animator
 LinkedIN
 Behance
 VFX Reel


 -- 

Our users will know fear and cower before

Re: Best graphic card for Softimage?

[hk-vndr]

 

How long can you can your computer on with this card in it? 

On 2014-12-11 05:36, Mario Reitbauer wrote: 

 Got the msi gtx 970 gaming 4g. Quite happy with it. 
 
 2014-12-11 10:03 GMT+01:00 Mirko Jankovic mirkoj.anima...@gmail.com:
 
 right now 970 is best bang for backs. 
 they do not heat too much, power consumption is prety low and they do really 
 good job. 
 and on top of that Redshift as perfect companion ;) 
 viewport performance is not that big issue at all between two cards but being 
 able to utilise GPU rendering with CUDA is way more higher on the list then 
 couple more FPS in viewport 
 
 On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 9:26 AM, Christoph Muetze c...@glarestudios.de 
 wrote:
 I'd stay clear of the ATI/AMD consumer cards if I were you. From our
 experience Soft becomes generally less stable (crashing a lot more), and
 the raycast selection is going haywire sometimes.
 
 Chris
 
 On 11/12/14 04:44, phil harbath wrote:
 I went Redshift and have been very pleased. I can get by using a lot less 
 computers than before on most projects, volume smoke is pretty much all I 
 use MR for anymore. I have several computers with a combination of 780TI, 
 770, and 970, while I think the 780Ti give the best performance, it really 
 makes more sense to buy the 970 as they are priced better or 980 if you have 
 more cash. The Redshift say go with the cards with the most ram (that would 
 be Titan 6tb, if you got even more cash), depends on your needs of course.

 From: David Rivera
 Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 8:51 PM
 To: Softimage Mailing List
 Subject: Best graphic card for Softimage?

 I know this subject has been posted a lot over the years, but it happens 
 that I read a benchmark performance between autodesk products on certain 
 webpage. They tested Radeons vs Nvidias and turns out that Mudbox and 
 Softimage ran better on AMD (Radeons) - this is mental ray render.


 So I was wondering whether to go full on mental ray (CPU) or take my savings 
 and put it on a GPU renderer? Either case, now a days, which is the middle 
 ranked graphic card for softimage? (My budget is around 1k).


 Thanks.

 David Rivera
 3D Compositor/Animator
 LinkedIN
 Behance
 VFX Reel


 

Re: Best graphic card for Softimage?

[hk-vndr]

Apologies to my thumbs. I meant how long do you keep your computer on with a 
card that generates such heat?

In my case, I've had to replace my mobo twice this year from my Nvidia quadro 
4000.


Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone

div Original message /divdivFrom: Mirko Jankovic 
mirkoj.anima...@gmail.com /divdivDate:12/11/2014  2:32 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
/divdivTo: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com /divdivSubject: Re: Best 
graphic card for Softimage? /divdiv
/divHow long can you can your computer on with this card in it?

Sry but clarification please?

On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 2:28 PM, hk-v...@iscs-i.com wrote:
How long can you can your computer on with this card in it?

On 2014-12-11 05:36, Mario Reitbauer wrote:

Got the msi gtx 970 gaming 4g.
Quite happy with it.

2014-12-11 10:03 GMT+01:00 Mirko Jankovic mirkoj.anima...@gmail.com:
right now 970 is best bang for backs.
they do not heat too much, power consumption is prety low and they do really 
good job.
and on top of that Redshift as perfect companion ;)
viewport performance is not that big issue at all between two cards but being 
able to utilise GPU rendering with CUDA is way more higher on the list then 
couple more FPS in viewport

On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 9:26 AM, Christoph Muetze c...@glarestudios.de wrote:
I'd stay clear of the ATI/AMD consumer cards if I were you. From our
experience Soft becomes generally less stable (crashing a lot more), and
the raycast selection is going haywire sometimes.

Chris

On 11/12/14 04:44, phil harbath wrote:
 I went Redshift and have been very pleased.  I can get by using a lot less 
 computers than before on most projects,  volume smoke is pretty much all I 
 use MR for anymore.   I have several computers with a combination of 780TI, 
 770, and 970,  while I think the 780Ti give the best performance, it really 
 makes more sense to buy the 970 as they are priced better or 980 if you have 
 more cash.  The Redshift say go with the cards with the most ram (that would 
 be Titan 6tb, if you got even more cash), depends on your needs of course.

 From: David Rivera
 Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 8:51 PM
 To: Softimage Mailing List
 Subject: Best graphic card for Softimage?

 I know this subject has been posted a lot over the years, but it happens that 
 I read a benchmark performance between autodesk products on certain webpage. 
 They tested Radeons vs Nvidias and turns out that Mudbox and Softimage ran 
 better on AMD (Radeons) - this is mental ray render.


 So I was wondering whether to go full on mental ray (CPU) or take my savings 
 and put it on a GPU renderer? Either case, now a days, which is the middle 
 ranked graphic card for softimage? (My budget is around 1k).


 Thanks.

 David Rivera
 3D Compositor/Animator
 LinkedIN
 Behance
 VFX Reel


 

 

Re: Best graphic card for Softimage?

[hk-vndr]

 

Average temp ran around high 50's Celsius and rarely touched 70 C on a
major render. It was on nearly continuously for 3 years until mobo died
in Feb then Nov (warranty covered both). Any links for better cooling
appreciated. 

Thanks, 

Henry 

On 2014-12-11 17:32, James De Colling wrote: 

 thats bizarre, I had a quadro4000 in my old machine for 2 years without a 
 problem. it was on 24/7 
 
 now I have a 770TI and again, its on 24/7 
 
 maybe look at some better cooling solutions? 
 
 cheers 
 
 james, 
 
 On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 10:28 AM, hk-vndr hk-v...@iscs-i.com wrote:
 
 Apologies to my thumbs. I meant how long do you keep your computer on with a 
 card that generates such heat? 
 
 In my case, I've had to replace my mobo twice this year from my Nvidia quadro 
 4000. 
 
 Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone 
 
  Original message  
 From: Mirko Jankovic 
 Date:12/11/2014 2:32 PM (GMT-05:00) 
 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com 
 Subject: Re: Best graphic card for Softimage? 
 
 How long can you can your computer on with this card in it?
 
 Sry but clarification please? 
 
 On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 2:28 PM, hk-v...@iscs-i.com wrote:
 
 How long can you can your computer on with this card in it? 
 
 On 2014-12-11 05:36, Mario Reitbauer wrote: 
 
 Got the msi gtx 970 gaming 4g. Quite happy with it. 
 
 2014-12-11 10:03 GMT+01:00 Mirko Jankovic mirkoj.anima...@gmail.com:
 
 right now 970 is best bang for backs. 
 they do not heat too much, power consumption is prety low and they do really 
 good job. 
 and on top of that Redshift as perfect companion ;) 
 viewport performance is not that big issue at all between two cards but being 
 able to utilise GPU rendering with CUDA is way more higher on the list then 
 couple more FPS in viewport 
 
 On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 9:26 AM, Christoph Muetze c...@glarestudios.de 
 wrote:
 I'd stay clear of the ATI/AMD consumer cards if I were you. From our
 experience Soft becomes generally less stable (crashing a lot more), and
 the raycast selection is going haywire sometimes.
 
 Chris
 
 On 11/12/14 04:44, phil harbath wrote:
 I went Redshift and have been very pleased. I can get by using a lot less 
 computers than before on most projects, volume smoke is pretty much all I 
 use MR for anymore. I have several computers with a combination of 780TI, 
 770, and 970, while I think the 780Ti give the best performance, it really 
 makes more sense to buy the 970 as they are priced better or 980 if you have 
 more cash. The Redshift say go with the cards with the most ram (that would 
 be Titan 6tb, if you got even more cash), depends on your needs of course.

 From: David Rivera
 Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 8:51 PM
 To: Softimage Mailing List
 Subject: Best graphic card for Softimage?

 I know this subject has been posted a lot over the years, but it happens 
 that I read a benchmark performance between autodesk products on certain 
 webpage. They tested Radeons vs Nvidias and turns out that Mudbox and 
 Softimage ran better on AMD (Radeons) - this is mental ray render.


 So I was wondering whether to go full on mental ray (CPU) or take my savings 
 and put it on a GPU renderer? Either case, now a days, which is the middle 
 ranked graphic card for softimage? (My budget is around 1k).


 Thanks.

 David Rivera
 3D Compositor/Animator
 LinkedIN
 Behance
 VFX Reel


 

Re: Just a thought - I hear the framestore use an ancient version of maya......

[hk-vndr]

Equally fine on centos 6.5 under kde (or gnome).

 Original message 
From: Jon Swindells jon_swinde...@fastmail.fm 
Date:03/07/2014  11:03 AM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com 
Subject: Re: Just a thought - I hear the framestore use an ancient version of   
maya.. 

running fine in mint16 (ubuntu 13.10 based i think), no sacrificial poultry 
needed.
 
running unity by any chance ?
 
-- 
Jon Swindells
jon_swinde...@fastmail.fm
 
 
 
On Fri, Mar 7, 2014, at 05:59 PM, Alan Fregtman wrote:
Oh and let's not even talk about modern Linux support... You need to sacrifice 
a chicken and chant some unholy spell to get Softimage working in Ubuntu.