Re: softimage to maya equivalents

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From: "John Clausing" 
To: "softimage list softimage list" 
Subject: softimage to maya equivalents
Date: Wed, Apr 9, 2014 8:13 PM
thanks John

Re: Short talk with my team

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Thanks for expressing that Perry. 

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From: "Perry Harovas" 
To: "softimage@listproc.autodesk.com" 
Subject: Short talk with my team
Date: Fri, Mar 21, 2014 5:15 PM
I am in the same boat as Daniel.
I talked it over with the guy I normally do most of my work with, and Modo 
seems to be the solution,but both of us are really just sad (well, angry, too), 
but unnaturally sad. We really feel like someone died.

Look, I know that sounds totally crazy, it is just software! Everyone is still 
alive, no one got hurt...
But workflows are very important, Ideas of how to solve problems with the 
software flow in a specific direction through our brains,
and with ICE, we have the flexibility to solve most of our own problems. Now we 
have been dealt a problemthat eventually (not immediately, but eventually) we 
will have to deal with.

it is like being a fine artist, and knowing that you have bottles of paint in 
very specific colors that you are using all the time.Then suddenly being told 
you have to use different paints without the same colors because they have 
stopped making your brand and colors of paint.
Eventually your supply will run out, and you will have to figure out how to mix 
the colors you DO have to regain the flexibility you had before.You make more 
mistakes than advances, you waste tons of time, you can't advance as fast 
because you are learning how to take baby steps
and how to solve these problems, but your art doesn't progress as fast.
We will be fine, of that I am sure, it just didn't have to be this way.




On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 4:45 PM, Mirko Jankovic  
wrote:

Let me give one perspective..Years ago I was freelancing along with a friend of 
mine. Working on projects together from idea and pitch to delivery.
He was on Max and I on Maya for approx 7 years. After increasing problems due 
to software to software conversion which was even bigger nightmare 
back then we switched to Softimage. it was version 6 then.We were able to pick 
up and deliver projects after max of 2 weeks adapting. That speaks a lot about 
Softimage user friendly orientation.

Now to get to the point. Will stay with Softimage till there is another package 
that I can pick up in 2 weeks and start delivering projects. Anything that I 
have to fight with to work in doesn't deserve a look at all.

Finally look at current and last couple years level of things people are 
creating with Softimage. You really really think that something much better 
will be there in 2 years and more?SO for there is no moving to anything else as 
long as there is a hardware that can push Softimage and unless something really 
good came that would be really like Softimage all over again, meaning picks it 
up so fast which is due to amazing work flow and user oriented design.

Honestly everything else on the market right now is in its baby steps. All 
shiny and fancy but have no a clue about real production. Changing direction 
and making changes at ANY time at speed during production is priceless.

Starting to learn something else right now that not only is complete package 
yet but still have a way to go is really not solution. You guys are leaving and 
killing your winning horse to replace it with a promise of unborn stud. 

Wait till that one is born and start winning races then invest in it. Unless 
you are a prophet or something and see that bright future. Click ;)




On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 9:27 PM, Daniel Kim  wrote:


I had a short meeting, 3rd times already, with my artists today about software 
which we are going to choose. We don't need to act quick. We can use Softimage 
till the date we find an another solution.. 



We have discussed about Maya and Modo. We all know Maya, so it's not big deal 
to go with that (of course nothing can be compared with Softimage), but we are 
more into Modo. The reason Modo seems better than Maya was very simple. We are 
sick of AD's bad attitude. No more even a penny for AD is all of our decision. 
After short talk, we decide to go with Modo. We are going to learn it step by 
step and are going to use it from simple and small project in near future. I am 
not sure I can remove Softimage from our pipeline in few years, but we decide 
to do this. 



It is totally feel like losing a family or my old pet with all of sudden. It's 
like a doctor told me my family or my pet will die with unknown cancer within 1 
year, so I have to prepare everything after. This all ridiculous situation make 
me sigh unconsciously every time, and make me feel like I need to adopt another 
family or pet which I never want..



We are going to move on slowly. I mean, extremely slowly. Our long term project 
is going to be still done with Softimage. I am going to give myself and other 
artists good enough time to adopt another software (Modo seems the answer, but 
whatever) to live, but we all know here we will never forget our loyal family 
or pet.

Re: Cinema 4D an option?

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Definitely want to hear which way you go Ed. 

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Re: A germ of an idea.

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I'm a generalist, let me know how can help. 

Scott 

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Re: Your postings...

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Trying not to be reactionary regarding this post. Can you please explain what I 
mean by this? 

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- Reply message -
From: "Chris Vienneau" 
To: "softimage@listproc.autodesk.com" 
Subject: Your postings...
Date: Mon, Mar 10, 2014 9:42 PM


Yeah it seems like the mailing list is showing its tech limits right now. Seems 
best to keep it as one list.



cv/


From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] on behalf of Raffaele Fragapane 
[raffsxsil...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 9:46 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Your postings...

I have mixed feelings about an additional list.
On one hand I thought about putting that up for popular vote to see if people 
wanted to separate all the Maya questions from the actual Softimage focus, I 
know some do, and there's some merit to a narrow signal. On the other hand, 
that will be a lot of traffic in months to come, and I'm afraid taking it away 
from this list will result in it quickly withering down.

It's probably worth its own thread, as this one has a marked stench to it due 
to an unfortunate inception.


On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 11:57 AM, Chris Vienneau 
mailto:chris.vienn...@autodesk.com>> wrote:
We want this forum to be the users and hopefully everyone respects each other. 
I have had lots of private threads where people express concern that this is 
not the forum they have known for many years and that is understandable given 
what happened. If people have different reactions to what has happened and will 
take different paths that is understandable as well.



If the forum wants us to create an SI-transition forum where these discussions 
can continue and this one can be maintained for those people who want to 
continue to discuss si as it was before we will do that.



cv/






From: 
softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
 
[softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com]
 on behalf of Leendert A. Hartog [hirazib...@live.nl]
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 12:02 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Your postings...


Agreed...

Emilio Hernandez schreef op 9-3-2014 16:51:
Well I read a more unprofessional post of someone telling other one, that he 
was biased because he was fired from Autodesk.

We were all professionals 20 years ago?

If fresh blood is coming to this list, in first place to seek help and 
knowledge, and he gets caught in the middle of this mayhem suddenly he is not 
able to express how he feels, while the rest of us are doing it?

I am not judging, nor I am who to say if it was right or wrong for Mauricio to 
post a private mail.

But he has the right to do it.

True is this list because of the events that developed just last Tuesday, has 
been driven away from its essence.   It is normal.  Will it ever be the same?

I don't know.  I hope so.  So the people like me, that are staying with 
Softimage until Autodesk or some one else comes with a better solution for me.  
That by conviction I will adopt, like it was the case with Softimage 3D and not 
because I am forced to, can continue learning, sharing and why not?  Have a 
good time with all of you, as we are spread all over the world.  And even that 
I don't know you in person, at this stage I feel I am part of a big family.

I never saw Mauricio jumping on threads about tech stuff and start posting out 
of place.

But anyway the tidal wave is settling and after the waters retire we will see 
what is left.

Then we can start bulding again.

You can count with my two hands to do so.

Cheers!







---
Emilio Hernández   VFX & 3D animation.





--

Leendert A. Hartog – Softimage hobbyist
AKA Hirazi Blue – Administrator  @, NOT the owner of  
si-community.com





--
Our users will know fear and cower before our software! Ship it! Ship it and 
let them flee like the dogs they are!

Re: positivity

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Ha ha yeah Ed, you're old. But dang, so am I. 

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- Reply message -
From: "Ed Harriss" 
To: "softimage@listproc.autodesk.com" 
Subject: positivity
Date: Fri, Dec 20, 2013 2:07 PM
Maybe we need to go back to a multi-address list system like we had in the old 
days. There was the discussion list, which was all fun/monkeys/cheese/Porl and
there was the Softimage list, which is pretty much what we are using now. There 
were even other lists like eddie, particle, etc.. (Yea, I’m old..) Anyway, we 
could have this list stay a Softimage list and create another one for all the 
gloom and doom.


Perfect!

Now get to work Autodesk listproc person! ;)
Thanks!

Happy Holidays!
Ed “cheese and monkeys” Harriss

From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com]
On Behalf Of Kris Rivel

Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 1:33 PM

To: Softimage List

Subject: Re: positivity


Ha ha...Merry Christmas to all!!  LOL.  I'm not trying to start anything...just 
want to see if I'm the only one hearing this.  I told the guys that told me to 
go tell the people that said this to go F themselves for what its worth.  It
does piss me off to see rumors like this butI do sit at home mostly working 
all day and night.  I don't get to mingle with my peers as much as I used to so 
I didn't know if this may be old news or something new.  Sounds bunk so I'll 
leave it at that :-)




Kris

On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Eric Thivierge  wrote:

Only thing I have beef with myself is the thread hijacking that snowballs into 
a long slog of boohooism. I'm tired of it. In recent times I have to think 
twice about posting to the list because I'm afraid my
thread will get pulled into the black hole of negativity and what could have 
been a helpful / informative thread will be turned into a bitch-fest.



The emPolygonizer thread yesterday that was heading in that direction seriously 
almost made me unsubscribe.



If you want to complain about the demise of a software, have at it. Just stop 
hijacking threads with it (not aimed specifically Mr. Lampi, in general)..



- Eric T.

Re: positivity

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Thanks Kris, Merry Christmas to everyone here as well. Eric T, thanks for 
hanging in. Your opinions and contributions here are most valued. Thank you. 
Scott 

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- Reply message -
From: "Eric Thivierge" 
To: 
Subject: positivity
Date: Fri, Dec 20, 2013 1:11 PM


Only thing I have beef with myself is the thread hijacking that snowballs into 
a long slog of boohooism. I'm tired of it. In recent times I have to think 
twice about posting to the list because I'm afraid my thread will get pulled 
into the black hole of negativity and what could have been a helpful / 
informative thread will be turned into a bitch-fest.

The emPolygonizer thread yesterday that was heading in that direction seriously 
almost made me unsubscribe.

If you want to complain about the demise of a software, have at it. Just stop 
hijacking threads with it (not aimed specifically Mr. Lampi, in general).

- Eric T.