Re: City generator?

[Morten Bartholdy]

I hear what you are saying and agree. The scope of this project does not allow
for specialists taking care of things for me though, so I will have to find a
solution I can manage myself :)

/Morten



> Den 29. februar 2016 klokken 20:35 skrev Jordi Bares <jordiba...@gmail.com>:
> 
> 
> Esri CityEngine is truly something else because it revolves around the
> architecture and urbanist language and being procedural allow for a much more
> sophisticated and realistic result.
> 
> It is not cheap (last time I checked) but if you need to do some architecture
> landscape anything else is truly a toy in comparison, and the proof of time
> will certainly tell. Meaning, today may look like a curve duplication does the
> job, in 3-5 years you will want to hide.
> 
> Ultimately, like Marvellous Designer, and any other specialised tool, it
> requires certain knowledge that is in the realm of cloth manufacturing (MD) or
> architecture (CE), my guess is that you want get a young clever guy with a
> degree in architecture to help you out, I sincerely believe  the pay off will
> be certainly there.
> 
> hope it makes sense.
> jb
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > On 29 Feb 2016, at 14:12, Morten Bartholdy <x...@colorshopvfx.dk> wrote:
> > 
> > I have pored over Esri's site and their reseller here in DK but no pricing
> > available without actually contacting them. Smells expensive too :)
> > 
> > I think I will fall back on some simpler methods with curve duplication and
> > scattering for this one.
> > 
> > /Morten
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >> Den 27. februar 2016 klokken 02:25 skrev Francois Lord
> >> <flordli...@gmail.com>:
> >> 
> >> 
> >> CityEngine is amazing, but very expensive. We've used it several times
> >> in the past. I think it now has some sort of link to Houdini to be able
> >> to work procedurally directly in Houdini.
> >> 
> >> On 2016-02-25 10:11 AM, Morten Bartholdy wrote:
> >>> Thanks Chris, but I am looking for something that allows for more
> >>> irregular and
> >>> organic looking cityscapes. I found the tool I was thinking of -
> >>> unfortunately
> >>> it was not ICE based:
> >>> 
> >>> http://www.esri.com/software/cityengine
> >>> 
> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFRqSJFp-I0
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Morten
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>>> Den 25. februar 2016 klokken 15:31 skrev Chris Marshall
> >>>> <chrismarshal...@gmail.com>:
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> I did this really simple one:-
> >>>> 
> >>>> https://vimeo.com/5200892
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> On 22 February 2016 at 13:00, Morten Bartholdy <x...@colorshopvfx.dk>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>>> Thanks Sven - I will check that one out :)
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> MB
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>> Den 22. februar 2016 klokken 13:51 skrev Sven Constable
> >>>>>> <sixsi_l...@imagefront.de>:
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Theres also CityEngine. I have no clue about pricing.
> >>>>>> http://www.esri.com/software/cityengine
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> -Original Message-
> >>>>>> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
> >>>>>> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Morten
> >>>>>> Bartholdy
> >>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 22, 2016 11:07 AM
> >>>>>> To: Userlist, Softimage
> >>>>>> Subject: City generator?
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> I thought I once saw an ICE based City Generator system for XSI, but I
> >>>>> might
> >>>>>> be mistaken. I found two systems on rray.de/xsi which look a bit
> >>>>> rudimentary
> >>>>>> - I am looking for something that allow you to do road and cityblock
> >>>>> layout
> >>>>>> and position buildings procedurally based on that. Do any of you
> >>> know of
> >>>>> a
> >>>>>> good system, even if not xsi based?
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Cheers
> 

Re: City generator?

[Jordi Bares]

I remember it was around  10K
jb


> On 1 Mar 2016, at 13:49, adrian wyer <adrian.w...@fluid-pictures.com> wrote:
> 
> i remember that, wasn't it like $100,000 or something?
> 
> 
> a
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Sven Constable
> Sent: 29 February 2016 20:56
> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> Subject: RE: City generator?
> 
> Btw I remember a company several years ago, using XSI to build a similar
> thing to CityEngine. It was quite decent stuff. They had a dedicated website
> for the product and it was heavily based on Softimage. Wasn't it launched as
> a standalone application based on ICE? I'm pretty sure I saw a video by that
> company showing the XSI GUI within the standalone application they were
> selling. I remember because I was wondering how they would have sold it with
> the XSI codebase somehow involved. Maybe the Foundation version of Soft?
> Probably a guy on the list was working on it or posted the link to it. Can't
> remember, my head hurts. :)
> 
> sven 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Jordi Bares
> Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 8:36 PM
> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> Subject: Re: City generator?
> 
> Esri CityEngine is truly something else because it revolves around the
> architecture and urbanist language and being procedural allow for a much
> more sophisticated and realistic result.
> 
> It is not cheap (last time I checked) but if you need to do some
> architecture landscape anything else is truly a toy in comparison, and the
> proof of time will certainly tell. Meaning, today may look like a curve
> duplication does the job, in 3-5 years you will want to hide.
> 
> Ultimately, like Marvellous Designer, and any other specialised tool, it
> requires certain knowledge that is in the realm of cloth manufacturing (MD)
> or architecture (CE), my guess is that you want get a young clever guy with
> a degree in architecture to help you out, I sincerely believe  the pay off
> will be certainly there.
> 
> hope it makes sense.
> jb
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 29 Feb 2016, at 14:12, Morten Bartholdy <x...@colorshopvfx.dk> wrote:
>> 
>> I have pored over Esri's site and their reseller here in DK but no 
>> pricing available without actually contacting them. Smells expensive 
>> too :)
>> 
>> I think I will fall back on some simpler methods with curve 
>> duplication and scattering for this one.
>> 
>> /Morten
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Den 27. februar 2016 klokken 02:25 skrev Francois Lord
> <flordli...@gmail.com>:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> CityEngine is amazing, but very expensive. We've used it several 
>>> times in the past. I think it now has some sort of link to Houdini to 
>>> be able to work procedurally directly in Houdini.
>>> 
>>> On 2016-02-25 10:11 AM, Morten Bartholdy wrote:
>>>> Thanks Chris, but I am looking for something that allows for more 
>>>> irregular and organic looking cityscapes. I found the tool I was 
>>>> thinking of - unfortunately it was not ICE based:
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.esri.com/software/cityengine
>>>> 
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFRqSJFp-I0
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Morten
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Den 25. februar 2016 klokken 15:31 skrev Chris Marshall
>>>>> <chrismarshal...@gmail.com>:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I did this really simple one:-
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://vimeo.com/5200892
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 22 February 2016 at 13:00, Morten Bartholdy 
>>>>> <x...@colorshopvfx.dk>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks Sven - I will check that one out :)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> MB
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Den 22. februar 2016 klokken 13:51 skrev Sven Constable
>>>>>>> <sixsi_l...@imagefront.de>:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Theres also CityEngine. I have no clue about pricing.
>>>>>>> http://www.esri.com/software/cityengine
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -Original Message

Re: City generator?

[Jason S]

  
  
I'm sure it must have been a peice of
  cake (comparatively) doing something similar in Maya (in which
  anything is possible but..)
  or that any given shop can do something similar without hiring a
  team of highly qualified developpers.
  
  On 03/01/16 13:59, Steven Caron wrote:


  they can do it now in xgen... but the tech is
really about the asset management, which we have already working
in maya.

  
On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 10:33 AM,
  adrian wyer 
  wrote:
  

  
that
  Athens
  tech demo is still the shit!!
 
genius
  piece of pipelining try doing
  that in maya!
 
a
 

  
  


  

  

  


  

  

  

  

  

  

  
  
  
  
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Re: City generator?

[Steven Caron]

they can do it now in xgen... but the tech is really about the asset
management, which we have already working in maya.

On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 10:33 AM, adrian wyer  wrote:

> that Athens tech demo is still the shit!!
>
>
>
> genius piece of pipelining try doing that in maya!
>
>
>
> a
>
>
>
>
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RE: City generator?

[adrian wyer]

that Athens tech demo is still the shit!!

 

genius piece of pipelining try doing that in maya!

 

a

 

  _  

From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Daniel
Brassard
Sent: 01 March 2016 17:33
To: softimage
Subject: Re: City generator?

 

What about using Fabric engine to generate the city, similar to the work of
WHISKYTREE?

 

https://vimeo.com/85581391

https://vimeo.com/71148018

 

On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 12:22 PM, Sven Constable <sixsi_l...@imagefront.de>
wrote:

yeah, I think that was it.


-Original Message-
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Grahame Fuller
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2016 5:43 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: RE: City generator?

Some of the details sound like you might be thinking of MassMotion, but
that's a crowd/evacuation simulator, not a city generator. IIRC it was
originally based on Behavior, but was later updated to use ICE and I think
it's completely standalone now.

gray

-Original Message-
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of adrian wyer
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2016 6:49 AM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: RE: City generator?

i remember that, wasn't it like $100,000 or something?


a

-Original Message-
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Sven Constable
Sent: 29 February 2016 20:56
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: RE: City generator?

Btw I remember a company several years ago, using XSI to build a similar
thing to CityEngine. It was quite decent stuff. They had a dedicated website
for the product and it was heavily based on Softimage. Wasn't it launched as
a standalone application based on ICE? I'm pretty sure I saw a video by that
company showing the XSI GUI within the standalone application they were
selling. I remember because I was wondering how they would have sold it with
the XSI codebase somehow involved. Maybe the Foundation version of Soft?
Probably a guy on the list was working on it or posted the link to it. Can't
remember, my head hurts. :)

sven

-Original Message-
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Jordi Bares
Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 8:36 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: City generator?

Esri CityEngine is truly something else because it revolves around the
architecture and urbanist language and being procedural allow for a much
more sophisticated and realistic result.

It is not cheap (last time I checked) but if you need to do some
architecture landscape anything else is truly a toy in comparison, and the
proof of time will certainly tell. Meaning, today may look like a curve
duplication does the job, in 3-5 years you will want to hide.

Ultimately, like Marvellous Designer, and any other specialised tool, it
requires certain knowledge that is in the realm of cloth manufacturing (MD)
or architecture (CE), my guess is that you want get a young clever guy with
a degree in architecture to help you out, I sincerely believe  the pay off
will be certainly there.

hope it makes sense.
jb




> On 29 Feb 2016, at 14:12, Morten Bartholdy <x...@colorshopvfx.dk> wrote:
>
> I have pored over Esri's site and their reseller here in DK but no
> pricing available without actually contacting them. Smells expensive
> too :)
>
> I think I will fall back on some simpler methods with curve
> duplication and scattering for this one.
>
> /Morten
>
>
>
>> Den 27. februar 2016 klokken 02:25 skrev Francois Lord
<flordli...@gmail.com>:
>>
>>
>> CityEngine is amazing, but very expensive. We've used it several
>> times in the past. I think it now has some sort of link to Houdini to
>> be able to work procedurally directly in Houdini.
>>
>> On 2016-02-25 10:11 AM, Morten Bartholdy wrote:
>>> Thanks Chris, but I am looking for something that allows for more
>>> irregular and organic looking cityscapes. I found the tool I was
>>> thinking of - unfortunately it was not ICE based:
>>>
>>> http://www.esri.com/software/cityengine
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFRqSJFp-I0
>>>
>>>
>>> Morten
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Den 25. februar 2016 klokken 15:31 skrev Chris Marshall
>>>> <chrismarshal...@gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I did this really simple one:-
>>>>
>>>> https://vimeo.com/5200892
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 22 February 2016 at 13:00, Morten Bartholdy
>>>> <x...@co

Re: City generator?

[Daniel Brassard]

What about using Fabric engine to generate the city, similar to the work of
WHISKYTREE?

https://vimeo.com/85581391
https://vimeo.com/71148018

On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 12:22 PM, Sven Constable <sixsi_l...@imagefront.de>
wrote:

> yeah, I think that was it.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Grahame
> Fuller
> Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2016 5:43 PM
> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> Subject: RE: City generator?
>
> Some of the details sound like you might be thinking of MassMotion, but
> that's a crowd/evacuation simulator, not a city generator. IIRC it was
> originally based on Behavior, but was later updated to use ICE and I think
> it's completely standalone now.
>
> gray
>
> -Original Message-
> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of adrian wyer
> Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2016 6:49 AM
> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> Subject: RE: City generator?
>
> i remember that, wasn't it like $100,000 or something?
>
>
> a
>
> -Original Message-
> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Sven
> Constable
> Sent: 29 February 2016 20:56
> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> Subject: RE: City generator?
>
> Btw I remember a company several years ago, using XSI to build a similar
> thing to CityEngine. It was quite decent stuff. They had a dedicated
> website
> for the product and it was heavily based on Softimage. Wasn't it launched
> as
> a standalone application based on ICE? I'm pretty sure I saw a video by
> that
> company showing the XSI GUI within the standalone application they were
> selling. I remember because I was wondering how they would have sold it
> with
> the XSI codebase somehow involved. Maybe the Foundation version of Soft?
> Probably a guy on the list was working on it or posted the link to it.
> Can't
> remember, my head hurts. :)
>
> sven
>
> -Original Message-
> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Jordi Bares
> Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 8:36 PM
> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> Subject: Re: City generator?
>
> Esri CityEngine is truly something else because it revolves around the
> architecture and urbanist language and being procedural allow for a much
> more sophisticated and realistic result.
>
> It is not cheap (last time I checked) but if you need to do some
> architecture landscape anything else is truly a toy in comparison, and the
> proof of time will certainly tell. Meaning, today may look like a curve
> duplication does the job, in 3-5 years you will want to hide.
>
> Ultimately, like Marvellous Designer, and any other specialised tool, it
> requires certain knowledge that is in the realm of cloth manufacturing (MD)
> or architecture (CE), my guess is that you want get a young clever guy with
> a degree in architecture to help you out, I sincerely believe  the pay off
> will be certainly there.
>
> hope it makes sense.
> jb
>
>
>
>
> > On 29 Feb 2016, at 14:12, Morten Bartholdy <x...@colorshopvfx.dk> wrote:
> >
> > I have pored over Esri's site and their reseller here in DK but no
> > pricing available without actually contacting them. Smells expensive
> > too :)
> >
> > I think I will fall back on some simpler methods with curve
> > duplication and scattering for this one.
> >
> > /Morten
> >
> >
> >
> >> Den 27. februar 2016 klokken 02:25 skrev Francois Lord
> <flordli...@gmail.com>:
> >>
> >>
> >> CityEngine is amazing, but very expensive. We've used it several
> >> times in the past. I think it now has some sort of link to Houdini to
> >> be able to work procedurally directly in Houdini.
> >>
> >> On 2016-02-25 10:11 AM, Morten Bartholdy wrote:
> >>> Thanks Chris, but I am looking for something that allows for more
> >>> irregular and organic looking cityscapes. I found the tool I was
> >>> thinking of - unfortunately it was not ICE based:
> >>>
> >>> http://www.esri.com/software/cityengine
> >>>
> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFRqSJFp-I0
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Morten
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Den 25. februar 2016 klokken 15:31 skrev Chris Marshall
> >>>> <chrismarshal...@gmail.com>:
> >>>

RE: City generator?

[Sven Constable]

yeah, I think that was it. 

-Original Message-
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Grahame Fuller
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2016 5:43 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: RE: City generator?

Some of the details sound like you might be thinking of MassMotion, but
that's a crowd/evacuation simulator, not a city generator. IIRC it was
originally based on Behavior, but was later updated to use ICE and I think
it's completely standalone now.

gray

-Original Message-
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of adrian wyer
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2016 6:49 AM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: RE: City generator?

i remember that, wasn't it like $100,000 or something?


a

-Original Message-
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Sven Constable
Sent: 29 February 2016 20:56
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: RE: City generator?

Btw I remember a company several years ago, using XSI to build a similar
thing to CityEngine. It was quite decent stuff. They had a dedicated website
for the product and it was heavily based on Softimage. Wasn't it launched as
a standalone application based on ICE? I'm pretty sure I saw a video by that
company showing the XSI GUI within the standalone application they were
selling. I remember because I was wondering how they would have sold it with
the XSI codebase somehow involved. Maybe the Foundation version of Soft?
Probably a guy on the list was working on it or posted the link to it. Can't
remember, my head hurts. :)

sven 

-Original Message-
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Jordi Bares
Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 8:36 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: City generator?

Esri CityEngine is truly something else because it revolves around the
architecture and urbanist language and being procedural allow for a much
more sophisticated and realistic result.

It is not cheap (last time I checked) but if you need to do some
architecture landscape anything else is truly a toy in comparison, and the
proof of time will certainly tell. Meaning, today may look like a curve
duplication does the job, in 3-5 years you will want to hide.

Ultimately, like Marvellous Designer, and any other specialised tool, it
requires certain knowledge that is in the realm of cloth manufacturing (MD)
or architecture (CE), my guess is that you want get a young clever guy with
a degree in architecture to help you out, I sincerely believe  the pay off
will be certainly there.

hope it makes sense.
jb




> On 29 Feb 2016, at 14:12, Morten Bartholdy <x...@colorshopvfx.dk> wrote:
> 
> I have pored over Esri's site and their reseller here in DK but no 
> pricing available without actually contacting them. Smells expensive 
> too :)
> 
> I think I will fall back on some simpler methods with curve 
> duplication and scattering for this one.
> 
> /Morten
> 
> 
> 
>> Den 27. februar 2016 klokken 02:25 skrev Francois Lord
<flordli...@gmail.com>:
>> 
>> 
>> CityEngine is amazing, but very expensive. We've used it several 
>> times in the past. I think it now has some sort of link to Houdini to 
>> be able to work procedurally directly in Houdini.
>> 
>> On 2016-02-25 10:11 AM, Morten Bartholdy wrote:
>>> Thanks Chris, but I am looking for something that allows for more 
>>> irregular and organic looking cityscapes. I found the tool I was 
>>> thinking of - unfortunately it was not ICE based:
>>> 
>>> http://www.esri.com/software/cityengine
>>> 
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFRqSJFp-I0
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Morten
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Den 25. februar 2016 klokken 15:31 skrev Chris Marshall
>>>> <chrismarshal...@gmail.com>:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I did this really simple one:-
>>>> 
>>>> https://vimeo.com/5200892
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 22 February 2016 at 13:00, Morten Bartholdy 
>>>> <x...@colorshopvfx.dk>
>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks Sven - I will check that one out :)
>>>>> 
>>>>> MB
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Den 22. februar 2016 klokken 13:51 skrev Sven Constable
>>>>>> <sixsi_l...@imagefront.de>:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Theres also CityEngine. I have no clue about pricing.
>>>>>&g

RE: City generator?

[Grahame Fuller]

Some of the details sound like you might be thinking of MassMotion, but that's 
a crowd/evacuation simulator, not a city generator. IIRC it was originally 
based on Behavior, but was later updated to use ICE and I think it's completely 
standalone now.

gray

-Original Message-
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of adrian wyer
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2016 6:49 AM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: RE: City generator?

i remember that, wasn't it like $100,000 or something?


a

-Original Message-
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Sven Constable
Sent: 29 February 2016 20:56
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: RE: City generator?

Btw I remember a company several years ago, using XSI to build a similar thing 
to CityEngine. It was quite decent stuff. They had a dedicated website for the 
product and it was heavily based on Softimage. Wasn't it launched as a 
standalone application based on ICE? I'm pretty sure I saw a video by that 
company showing the XSI GUI within the standalone application they were 
selling. I remember because I was wondering how they would have sold it with 
the XSI codebase somehow involved. Maybe the Foundation version of Soft?
Probably a guy on the list was working on it or posted the link to it. Can't 
remember, my head hurts. :)

sven 

-Original Message-
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Jordi Bares
Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 8:36 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: City generator?

Esri CityEngine is truly something else because it revolves around the 
architecture and urbanist language and being procedural allow for a much more 
sophisticated and realistic result.

It is not cheap (last time I checked) but if you need to do some architecture 
landscape anything else is truly a toy in comparison, and the proof of time 
will certainly tell. Meaning, today may look like a curve duplication does the 
job, in 3-5 years you will want to hide.

Ultimately, like Marvellous Designer, and any other specialised tool, it 
requires certain knowledge that is in the realm of cloth manufacturing (MD) or 
architecture (CE), my guess is that you want get a young clever guy with a 
degree in architecture to help you out, I sincerely believe  the pay off will 
be certainly there.

hope it makes sense.
jb




> On 29 Feb 2016, at 14:12, Morten Bartholdy <x...@colorshopvfx.dk> wrote:
> 
> I have pored over Esri's site and their reseller here in DK but no 
> pricing available without actually contacting them. Smells expensive 
> too :)
> 
> I think I will fall back on some simpler methods with curve 
> duplication and scattering for this one.
> 
> /Morten
> 
> 
> 
>> Den 27. februar 2016 klokken 02:25 skrev Francois Lord
<flordli...@gmail.com>:
>> 
>> 
>> CityEngine is amazing, but very expensive. We've used it several 
>> times in the past. I think it now has some sort of link to Houdini to 
>> be able to work procedurally directly in Houdini.
>> 
>> On 2016-02-25 10:11 AM, Morten Bartholdy wrote:
>>> Thanks Chris, but I am looking for something that allows for more 
>>> irregular and organic looking cityscapes. I found the tool I was 
>>> thinking of - unfortunately it was not ICE based:
>>> 
>>> http://www.esri.com/software/cityengine
>>> 
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFRqSJFp-I0
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Morten
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Den 25. februar 2016 klokken 15:31 skrev Chris Marshall
>>>> <chrismarshal...@gmail.com>:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I did this really simple one:-
>>>> 
>>>> https://vimeo.com/5200892
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 22 February 2016 at 13:00, Morten Bartholdy 
>>>> <x...@colorshopvfx.dk>
>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks Sven - I will check that one out :)
>>>>> 
>>>>> MB
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Den 22. februar 2016 klokken 13:51 skrev Sven Constable
>>>>>> <sixsi_l...@imagefront.de>:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Theres also CityEngine. I have no clue about pricing.
>>>>>> http://www.esri.com/software/cityengine
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>>> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
>>>>>> [mailto:softimage-

RE: City generator?

[adrian wyer]

i remember that, wasn't it like $100,000 or something?


a

-Original Message-
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Sven Constable
Sent: 29 February 2016 20:56
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: RE: City generator?

Btw I remember a company several years ago, using XSI to build a similar
thing to CityEngine. It was quite decent stuff. They had a dedicated website
for the product and it was heavily based on Softimage. Wasn't it launched as
a standalone application based on ICE? I'm pretty sure I saw a video by that
company showing the XSI GUI within the standalone application they were
selling. I remember because I was wondering how they would have sold it with
the XSI codebase somehow involved. Maybe the Foundation version of Soft?
Probably a guy on the list was working on it or posted the link to it. Can't
remember, my head hurts. :)

sven 

-Original Message-
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Jordi Bares
Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 8:36 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: City generator?

Esri CityEngine is truly something else because it revolves around the
architecture and urbanist language and being procedural allow for a much
more sophisticated and realistic result.

It is not cheap (last time I checked) but if you need to do some
architecture landscape anything else is truly a toy in comparison, and the
proof of time will certainly tell. Meaning, today may look like a curve
duplication does the job, in 3-5 years you will want to hide.

Ultimately, like Marvellous Designer, and any other specialised tool, it
requires certain knowledge that is in the realm of cloth manufacturing (MD)
or architecture (CE), my guess is that you want get a young clever guy with
a degree in architecture to help you out, I sincerely believe  the pay off
will be certainly there.

hope it makes sense.
jb




> On 29 Feb 2016, at 14:12, Morten Bartholdy <x...@colorshopvfx.dk> wrote:
> 
> I have pored over Esri's site and their reseller here in DK but no 
> pricing available without actually contacting them. Smells expensive 
> too :)
> 
> I think I will fall back on some simpler methods with curve 
> duplication and scattering for this one.
> 
> /Morten
> 
> 
> 
>> Den 27. februar 2016 klokken 02:25 skrev Francois Lord
<flordli...@gmail.com>:
>> 
>> 
>> CityEngine is amazing, but very expensive. We've used it several 
>> times in the past. I think it now has some sort of link to Houdini to 
>> be able to work procedurally directly in Houdini.
>> 
>> On 2016-02-25 10:11 AM, Morten Bartholdy wrote:
>>> Thanks Chris, but I am looking for something that allows for more 
>>> irregular and organic looking cityscapes. I found the tool I was 
>>> thinking of - unfortunately it was not ICE based:
>>> 
>>> http://www.esri.com/software/cityengine
>>> 
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFRqSJFp-I0
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Morten
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Den 25. februar 2016 klokken 15:31 skrev Chris Marshall
>>>> <chrismarshal...@gmail.com>:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I did this really simple one:-
>>>> 
>>>> https://vimeo.com/5200892
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 22 February 2016 at 13:00, Morten Bartholdy 
>>>> <x...@colorshopvfx.dk>
>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks Sven - I will check that one out :)
>>>>> 
>>>>> MB
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Den 22. februar 2016 klokken 13:51 skrev Sven Constable
>>>>>> <sixsi_l...@imagefront.de>:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Theres also CityEngine. I have no clue about pricing.
>>>>>> http://www.esri.com/software/cityengine
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>>> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
>>>>>> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of 
>>>>>> Morten Bartholdy
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 22, 2016 11:07 AM
>>>>>> To: Userlist, Softimage
>>>>>> Subject: City generator?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I thought I once saw an ICE based City Generator system for XSI, 
>>>>>> but I
>>>>> might
>>>>>> be mistaken. I found two systems on rray.de/xsi which look a bit
>>>>

RE: City generator?

[Sven Constable]

Btw I remember a company several years ago, using XSI to build a similar
thing to CityEngine. It was quite decent stuff. They had a dedicated website
for the product and it was heavily based on Softimage. Wasn't it launched as
a standalone application based on ICE? I'm pretty sure I saw a video by that
company showing the XSI GUI within the standalone application they were
selling. I remember because I was wondering how they would have sold it with
the XSI codebase somehow involved. Maybe the Foundation version of Soft?
Probably a guy on the list was working on it or posted the link to it. Can't
remember, my head hurts. :)

sven 

-Original Message-
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Jordi Bares
Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 8:36 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: City generator?

Esri CityEngine is truly something else because it revolves around the
architecture and urbanist language and being procedural allow for a much
more sophisticated and realistic result.

It is not cheap (last time I checked) but if you need to do some
architecture landscape anything else is truly a toy in comparison, and the
proof of time will certainly tell. Meaning, today may look like a curve
duplication does the job, in 3-5 years you will want to hide.

Ultimately, like Marvellous Designer, and any other specialised tool, it
requires certain knowledge that is in the realm of cloth manufacturing (MD)
or architecture (CE), my guess is that you want get a young clever guy with
a degree in architecture to help you out, I sincerely believe  the pay off
will be certainly there.

hope it makes sense.
jb




> On 29 Feb 2016, at 14:12, Morten Bartholdy <x...@colorshopvfx.dk> wrote:
> 
> I have pored over Esri's site and their reseller here in DK but no 
> pricing available without actually contacting them. Smells expensive 
> too :)
> 
> I think I will fall back on some simpler methods with curve 
> duplication and scattering for this one.
> 
> /Morten
> 
> 
> 
>> Den 27. februar 2016 klokken 02:25 skrev Francois Lord
<flordli...@gmail.com>:
>> 
>> 
>> CityEngine is amazing, but very expensive. We've used it several 
>> times in the past. I think it now has some sort of link to Houdini to 
>> be able to work procedurally directly in Houdini.
>> 
>> On 2016-02-25 10:11 AM, Morten Bartholdy wrote:
>>> Thanks Chris, but I am looking for something that allows for more 
>>> irregular and organic looking cityscapes. I found the tool I was 
>>> thinking of - unfortunately it was not ICE based:
>>> 
>>> http://www.esri.com/software/cityengine
>>> 
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFRqSJFp-I0
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Morten
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Den 25. februar 2016 klokken 15:31 skrev Chris Marshall
>>>> <chrismarshal...@gmail.com>:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I did this really simple one:-
>>>> 
>>>> https://vimeo.com/5200892
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 22 February 2016 at 13:00, Morten Bartholdy 
>>>> <x...@colorshopvfx.dk>
>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks Sven - I will check that one out :)
>>>>> 
>>>>> MB
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Den 22. februar 2016 klokken 13:51 skrev Sven Constable
>>>>>> <sixsi_l...@imagefront.de>:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Theres also CityEngine. I have no clue about pricing.
>>>>>> http://www.esri.com/software/cityengine
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>>> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
>>>>>> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of 
>>>>>> Morten Bartholdy
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 22, 2016 11:07 AM
>>>>>> To: Userlist, Softimage
>>>>>> Subject: City generator?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I thought I once saw an ICE based City Generator system for XSI, 
>>>>>> but I
>>>>> might
>>>>>> be mistaken. I found two systems on rray.de/xsi which look a bit
>>>>> rudimentary
>>>>>> - I am looking for something that allow you to do road and 
>>>>>> cityblock
>>>>> layout
>>>>>> and position buildings procedurally based on that. Do any of you
>>> know of
>&g

Re: City generator?

[Jordi Bares]

Esri CityEngine is truly something else because it revolves around the 
architecture and urbanist language and being procedural allow for a much more 
sophisticated and realistic result.

It is not cheap (last time I checked) but if you need to do some architecture 
landscape anything else is truly a toy in comparison, and the proof of time 
will certainly tell. Meaning, today may look like a curve duplication does the 
job, in 3-5 years you will want to hide.

Ultimately, like Marvellous Designer, and any other specialised tool, it 
requires certain knowledge that is in the realm of cloth manufacturing (MD) or 
architecture (CE), my guess is that you want get a young clever guy with a 
degree in architecture to help you out, I sincerely believe  the pay off will 
be certainly there.

hope it makes sense.
jb




> On 29 Feb 2016, at 14:12, Morten Bartholdy <x...@colorshopvfx.dk> wrote:
> 
> I have pored over Esri's site and their reseller here in DK but no pricing
> available without actually contacting them. Smells expensive too :)
> 
> I think I will fall back on some simpler methods with curve duplication and
> scattering for this one.
> 
> /Morten
> 
> 
> 
>> Den 27. februar 2016 klokken 02:25 skrev Francois Lord 
>> <flordli...@gmail.com>:
>> 
>> 
>> CityEngine is amazing, but very expensive. We've used it several times
>> in the past. I think it now has some sort of link to Houdini to be able
>> to work procedurally directly in Houdini.
>> 
>> On 2016-02-25 10:11 AM, Morten Bartholdy wrote:
>>> Thanks Chris, but I am looking for something that allows for more
>>> irregular and
>>> organic looking cityscapes. I found the tool I was thinking of -
>>> unfortunately
>>> it was not ICE based:
>>> 
>>> http://www.esri.com/software/cityengine
>>> 
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFRqSJFp-I0
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Morten
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Den 25. februar 2016 klokken 15:31 skrev Chris Marshall
>>>> <chrismarshal...@gmail.com>:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I did this really simple one:-
>>>> 
>>>> https://vimeo.com/5200892
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 22 February 2016 at 13:00, Morten Bartholdy <x...@colorshopvfx.dk>
>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks Sven - I will check that one out :)
>>>>> 
>>>>> MB
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Den 22. februar 2016 klokken 13:51 skrev Sven Constable
>>>>>> <sixsi_l...@imagefront.de>:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Theres also CityEngine. I have no clue about pricing.
>>>>>> http://www.esri.com/software/cityengine
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>>> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
>>>>>> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Morten
>>>>>> Bartholdy
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 22, 2016 11:07 AM
>>>>>> To: Userlist, Softimage
>>>>>> Subject: City generator?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I thought I once saw an ICE based City Generator system for XSI, but I
>>>>> might
>>>>>> be mistaken. I found two systems on rray.de/xsi which look a bit
>>>>> rudimentary
>>>>>> - I am looking for something that allow you to do road and cityblock
>>>>> layout
>>>>>> and position buildings procedurally based on that. Do any of you
>>> know of
>>>>> a
>>>>>> good system, even if not xsi based?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>> Morten
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Softimage Mailing List.
>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send a mail to softimage-requ...@listproc.autodesk.com
>>>>> with
>>>>>> "unsubscribe" in the subject, and reply to confirm.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Softimage Mailing List.
>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send a mail to softimage-requ...@listproc.autodesk.com
>>>>> with
>>>>>> "unsubscribe" in the subject, and reply to confirm.
>>>>> --
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>>>>> To unsubscribe, send a mail to softimage-requ...@listproc.autodesk.com
>>>>> with "unsubscribe" in the subject, and reply to confirm.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --
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>>>> 029 20 37 27 57
>>>> 07730 533 115
>>>> www.mintmotion.co.uk
>>>> www.dot3d.com
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RE: City generator?

[adrian wyer]

indeed, the rule based construction means you can teach it how your
buildings are made, down to individual doors and window elements, and it
will procedurally make stuff up


given time, it's insanely powerful

a

-Original Message-
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Morten
Bartholdy
Sent: 29 February 2016 13:11
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: RE: City generator?

It is a shame though - it looks really versatile and powerful.

/MB



> Den 29. februar 2016 klokken 13:22 skrev adrian wyer
> <adrian.w...@fluid-pictures.com>:
> 
> 
> we went through a painful process trying to get a demo license from them
to
> evaluate it's usefulness for a project
> 
> at the time, no one outside architects/town lanners was using the software
> 
> they didn't understand the 'entertainment' industry, how to deal with
small
> studios, they wouldn't provide a 64bit demo, which as i remember, severely
> limited what you could do with the package
> 
> in the end we gave up and did it manually
> 
> since then i believe DNeg have started using it in production, so now they
> probably have a better idea about how to deal with post production
companies
> 
> saying that, im not sure it was cripplingly expensive, just 'reassuringly
> so'
> 
> a
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Morten
> Bartholdy
> Sent: 29 February 2016 12:12
> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> Subject: Re: City generator?
> 
> I have pored over Esri's site and their reseller here in DK but no pricing
> available without actually contacting them. Smells expensive too :)
> 
> I think I will fall back on some simpler methods with curve duplication
and
> scattering for this one.
> 
> /Morten
> 
> 
> 
> > Den 27. februar 2016 klokken 02:25 skrev Francois Lord
> <flordli...@gmail.com>:
> > 
> > 
> > CityEngine is amazing, but very expensive. We've used it several times
> > in the past. I think it now has some sort of link to Houdini to be able
> > to work procedurally directly in Houdini.
> > 
> > On 2016-02-25 10:11 AM, Morten Bartholdy wrote:
> > > Thanks Chris, but I am looking for something that allows for more
> > > irregular and
> > > organic looking cityscapes. I found the tool I was thinking of -
> > > unfortunately
> > > it was not ICE based:
> > >
> > > http://www.esri.com/software/cityengine
> > >
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFRqSJFp-I0
> > >
> > >
> > > Morten
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Den 25. februar 2016 klokken 15:31 skrev Chris Marshall
> > > > <chrismarshal...@gmail.com>:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I did this really simple one:-
> > > >
> > > > https://vimeo.com/5200892
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 22 February 2016 at 13:00, Morten Bartholdy <x...@colorshopvfx.dk>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Thanks Sven - I will check that one out :)
> > > >>
> > > >> MB
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>> Den 22. februar 2016 klokken 13:51 skrev Sven Constable
> > > >>> <sixsi_l...@imagefront.de>:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Theres also CityEngine. I have no clue about pricing.
> > > >>> http://www.esri.com/software/cityengine
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> -Original Message-
> > > >>> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
> > > >>> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of
Morten
> > > >>> Bartholdy
> > > >>> Sent: Monday, February 22, 2016 11:07 AM
> > > >>> To: Userlist, Softimage
> > > >>> Subject: City generator?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I thought I once saw an ICE based City Generator system for XSI,
but
> I
> > > >> might
> > > >>> be mistaken. I found two systems on rray.de/xsi which look a bit
> > > >> rudimentary
> > > >>> - I am looking for something that allow you to do road and
cityblock
> > > >> layout
> > > >>> and position buildings procedurally based on that. Do any of you
> > > know of
> > > >> a
&

RE: City generator?

[Morten Bartholdy]

It is a shame though - it looks really versatile and powerful.

/MB



> Den 29. februar 2016 klokken 13:22 skrev adrian wyer
> <adrian.w...@fluid-pictures.com>:
> 
> 
> we went through a painful process trying to get a demo license from them to
> evaluate it's usefulness for a project
> 
> at the time, no one outside architects/town lanners was using the software
> 
> they didn't understand the 'entertainment' industry, how to deal with small
> studios, they wouldn't provide a 64bit demo, which as i remember, severely
> limited what you could do with the package
> 
> in the end we gave up and did it manually
> 
> since then i believe DNeg have started using it in production, so now they
> probably have a better idea about how to deal with post production companies
> 
> saying that, im not sure it was cripplingly expensive, just 'reassuringly
> so'
> 
> a
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Morten
> Bartholdy
> Sent: 29 February 2016 12:12
> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> Subject: Re: City generator?
> 
> I have pored over Esri's site and their reseller here in DK but no pricing
> available without actually contacting them. Smells expensive too :)
> 
> I think I will fall back on some simpler methods with curve duplication and
> scattering for this one.
> 
> /Morten
> 
> 
> 
> > Den 27. februar 2016 klokken 02:25 skrev Francois Lord
> <flordli...@gmail.com>:
> > 
> > 
> > CityEngine is amazing, but very expensive. We've used it several times
> > in the past. I think it now has some sort of link to Houdini to be able
> > to work procedurally directly in Houdini.
> > 
> > On 2016-02-25 10:11 AM, Morten Bartholdy wrote:
> > > Thanks Chris, but I am looking for something that allows for more
> > > irregular and
> > > organic looking cityscapes. I found the tool I was thinking of -
> > > unfortunately
> > > it was not ICE based:
> > >
> > > http://www.esri.com/software/cityengine
> > >
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFRqSJFp-I0
> > >
> > >
> > > Morten
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Den 25. februar 2016 klokken 15:31 skrev Chris Marshall
> > > > <chrismarshal...@gmail.com>:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I did this really simple one:-
> > > >
> > > > https://vimeo.com/5200892
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 22 February 2016 at 13:00, Morten Bartholdy <x...@colorshopvfx.dk>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Thanks Sven - I will check that one out :)
> > > >>
> > > >> MB
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>> Den 22. februar 2016 klokken 13:51 skrev Sven Constable
> > > >>> <sixsi_l...@imagefront.de>:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Theres also CityEngine. I have no clue about pricing.
> > > >>> http://www.esri.com/software/cityengine
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> -Original Message-
> > > >>> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
> > > >>> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Morten
> > > >>> Bartholdy
> > > >>> Sent: Monday, February 22, 2016 11:07 AM
> > > >>> To: Userlist, Softimage
> > > >>> Subject: City generator?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I thought I once saw an ICE based City Generator system for XSI, but
> I
> > > >> might
> > > >>> be mistaken. I found two systems on rray.de/xsi which look a bit
> > > >> rudimentary
> > > >>> - I am looking for something that allow you to do road and cityblock
> > > >> layout
> > > >>> and position buildings procedurally based on that. Do any of you
> > > know of
> > > >> a
> > > >>> good system, even if not xsi based?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Cheers
> > > >>> Morten
> > > >>> --
> > > >>> Softimage Mailing List.
> > > >>> To unsubscribe, send a mail to
> softimage-requ...@listproc.autodesk.com
> > > >> with
> > > >>> "unsubscribe" in the subject, and reply t

RE: City generator?

[adrian wyer]

we went through a painful process trying to get a demo license from them to
evaluate it's usefulness for a project

at the time, no one outside architects/town lanners was using the software

they didn't understand the 'entertainment' industry, how to deal with small
studios, they wouldn't provide a 64bit demo, which as i remember, severely
limited what you could do with the package

in the end we gave up and did it manually

since then i believe DNeg have started using it in production, so now they
probably have a better idea about how to deal with post production companies

saying that, im not sure it was cripplingly expensive, just 'reassuringly
so'

a

-Original Message-
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Morten
Bartholdy
Sent: 29 February 2016 12:12
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: City generator?

I have pored over Esri's site and their reseller here in DK but no pricing
available without actually contacting them. Smells expensive too :)

I think I will fall back on some simpler methods with curve duplication and
scattering for this one.

/Morten



> Den 27. februar 2016 klokken 02:25 skrev Francois Lord
<flordli...@gmail.com>:
> 
> 
> CityEngine is amazing, but very expensive. We've used it several times
> in the past. I think it now has some sort of link to Houdini to be able
> to work procedurally directly in Houdini.
> 
> On 2016-02-25 10:11 AM, Morten Bartholdy wrote:
> > Thanks Chris, but I am looking for something that allows for more
> > irregular and
> > organic looking cityscapes. I found the tool I was thinking of -
> > unfortunately
> > it was not ICE based:
> >
> > http://www.esri.com/software/cityengine
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFRqSJFp-I0
> >
> >
> > Morten
> >
> >
> >
> > > Den 25. februar 2016 klokken 15:31 skrev Chris Marshall
> > > <chrismarshal...@gmail.com>:
> > >
> > >
> > > I did this really simple one:-
> > >
> > > https://vimeo.com/5200892
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 22 February 2016 at 13:00, Morten Bartholdy <x...@colorshopvfx.dk>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Thanks Sven - I will check that one out :)
> > >>
> > >> MB
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> Den 22. februar 2016 klokken 13:51 skrev Sven Constable
> > >>> <sixsi_l...@imagefront.de>:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Theres also CityEngine. I have no clue about pricing.
> > >>> http://www.esri.com/software/cityengine
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> -Original Message-
> > >>> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
> > >>> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Morten
> > >>> Bartholdy
> > >>> Sent: Monday, February 22, 2016 11:07 AM
> > >>> To: Userlist, Softimage
> > >>> Subject: City generator?
> > >>>
> > >>> I thought I once saw an ICE based City Generator system for XSI, but
I
> > >> might
> > >>> be mistaken. I found two systems on rray.de/xsi which look a bit
> > >> rudimentary
> > >>> - I am looking for something that allow you to do road and cityblock
> > >> layout
> > >>> and position buildings procedurally based on that. Do any of you
> > know of
> > >> a
> > >>> good system, even if not xsi based?
> > >>>
> > >>> Cheers
> > >>> Morten
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Re: City generator?

[Morten Bartholdy]

I have pored over Esri's site and their reseller here in DK but no pricing
available without actually contacting them. Smells expensive too :)

I think I will fall back on some simpler methods with curve duplication and
scattering for this one.

/Morten



> Den 27. februar 2016 klokken 02:25 skrev Francois Lord <flordli...@gmail.com>:
> 
> 
> CityEngine is amazing, but very expensive. We've used it several times
> in the past. I think it now has some sort of link to Houdini to be able
> to work procedurally directly in Houdini.
> 
> On 2016-02-25 10:11 AM, Morten Bartholdy wrote:
> > Thanks Chris, but I am looking for something that allows for more
> > irregular and
> > organic looking cityscapes. I found the tool I was thinking of -
> > unfortunately
> > it was not ICE based:
> >
> > http://www.esri.com/software/cityengine
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFRqSJFp-I0
> >
> >
> > Morten
> >
> >
> >
> > > Den 25. februar 2016 klokken 15:31 skrev Chris Marshall
> > > <chrismarshal...@gmail.com>:
> > >
> > >
> > > I did this really simple one:-
> > >
> > > https://vimeo.com/5200892
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 22 February 2016 at 13:00, Morten Bartholdy <x...@colorshopvfx.dk>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Thanks Sven - I will check that one out :)
> > >>
> > >> MB
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> Den 22. februar 2016 klokken 13:51 skrev Sven Constable
> > >>> <sixsi_l...@imagefront.de>:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Theres also CityEngine. I have no clue about pricing.
> > >>> http://www.esri.com/software/cityengine
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> -Original Message-
> > >>> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
> > >>> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Morten
> > >>> Bartholdy
> > >>> Sent: Monday, February 22, 2016 11:07 AM
> > >>> To: Userlist, Softimage
> > >>> Subject: City generator?
> > >>>
> > >>> I thought I once saw an ICE based City Generator system for XSI, but I
> > >> might
> > >>> be mistaken. I found two systems on rray.de/xsi which look a bit
> > >> rudimentary
> > >>> - I am looking for something that allow you to do road and cityblock
> > >> layout
> > >>> and position buildings procedurally based on that. Do any of you
> > know of
> > >> a
> > >>> good system, even if not xsi based?
> > >>>
> > >>> Cheers
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Re: City generator?

[Francois Lord]

CityEngine is amazing, but very expensive. We've used it several times
in the past. I think it now has some sort of link to Houdini to be able
to work procedurally directly in Houdini.

On 2016-02-25 10:11 AM, Morten Bartholdy wrote:
> Thanks Chris, but I am looking for something that allows for more
> irregular and
> organic looking cityscapes. I found the tool I was thinking of -
> unfortunately
> it was not ICE based:
>
> http://www.esri.com/software/cityengine
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFRqSJFp-I0
>
>
> Morten
>
>
>
> > Den 25. februar 2016 klokken 15:31 skrev Chris Marshall
> > <chrismarshal...@gmail.com>:
> >
> >
> > I did this really simple one:-
> >
> > https://vimeo.com/5200892
> >
> >
> >
> > On 22 February 2016 at 13:00, Morten Bartholdy <x...@colorshopvfx.dk>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks Sven - I will check that one out :)
> >>
> >> MB
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> Den 22. februar 2016 klokken 13:51 skrev Sven Constable
> >>> <sixsi_l...@imagefront.de>:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Theres also CityEngine. I have no clue about pricing.
> >>> http://www.esri.com/software/cityengine
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -Original Message-----
> >>> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
> >>> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Morten
> >>> Bartholdy
> >>> Sent: Monday, February 22, 2016 11:07 AM
> >>> To: Userlist, Softimage
> >>> Subject: City generator?
> >>>
> >>> I thought I once saw an ICE based City Generator system for XSI, but I
> >> might
> >>> be mistaken. I found two systems on rray.de/xsi which look a bit
> >> rudimentary
> >>> - I am looking for something that allow you to do road and cityblock
> >> layout
> >>> and position buildings procedurally based on that. Do any of you
> know of
> >> a
> >>> good system, even if not xsi based?
> >>>
> >>> Cheers
> >>> Morten
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Re: City generator?

[Morten Bartholdy]

I saw these too and as you say, none are XSI based. Of course if they are not
very expensive and fairly easy to pick up and use they become useful options.
Actually the Vue CityEngine caught my eye, as I know Vue and the price looks
right. It seems to have vanished from their store though :/

MB


> Den 25. februar 2016 klokken 17:49 skrev Ed Manning <etmth...@gmail.com>:
> 
> 
> And holy crap, if you Google "procedural City" there's a lot out there!
> Probably not much using Softimage, but maybe something cheap -- there seem
> to be Unity plug-ins for it.
> 
> https://www.google.com/search?q=procedural+city=X=1C1CHFX_enUS657US657=2=1187=1014=isch=u=univ=0ahUKEwj09eD6rpPLAhUJez4KHZY4DhIQsAQIHA
> 
> 
> On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 11:44 AM, Ed Manning <etmth...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > You could also try reaching out to Christian Gotzinger, who did this
> > several years ago now  :
> >
> > https://vimeo.com/40777017
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 11:34 AM, Ed Manning <etmth...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> found this on rray.de/xsi:
> >>
> >> http://www.paoloemilioselva.it/citygenerator.html
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 10:11 AM, Morten Bartholdy <x...@colorshopvfx.dk>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Thanks Chris, but I am looking for something that allows for more
> >>> irregular and
> >>> organic looking cityscapes. I found the tool I was thinking of -
> >>> unfortunately
> >>> it was not ICE based:
> >>>
> >>> http://www.esri.com/software/cityengine
> >>>
> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFRqSJFp-I0
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Morten
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> > Den 25. februar 2016 klokken 15:31 skrev Chris Marshall
> >>> > <chrismarshal...@gmail.com>:
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > I did this really simple one:-
> >>> >
> >>> > https://vimeo.com/5200892
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > On 22 February 2016 at 13:00, Morten Bartholdy <x...@colorshopvfx.dk>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > > Thanks Sven - I will check that one out :)
> >>> > >
> >>> > > MB
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > > > Den 22. februar 2016 klokken 13:51 skrev Sven Constable
> >>> > > > <sixsi_l...@imagefront.de>:
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > Theres also CityEngine. I have no clue about pricing.
> >>> > > > http://www.esri.com/software/cityengine
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > -Original Message-
> >>> > > > From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
> >>> > > > [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of
> >>> Morten
> >>> > > > Bartholdy
> >>> > > > Sent: Monday, February 22, 2016 11:07 AM
> >>> > > > To: Userlist, Softimage
> >>> > > > Subject: City generator?
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > I thought I once saw an ICE based City Generator system for XSI,
> >>> but I
> >>> > > might
> >>> > > > be mistaken. I found two systems on rray.de/xsi which look a bit
> >>> > > rudimentary
> >>> > > > - I am looking for something that allow you to do road and
> >>> cityblock
> >>> > > layout
> >>> > > > and position buildings procedurally based on that. Do any of you
> >>> know of
> >>> > > a
> >>> > > > good system, even if not xsi based?
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > Cheers
> >>> > > > Morten
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Re: City generator?

[Morten Bartholdy]

This is probably what I sort of remembered seeing at one point. Too bad
Goetzinger never made it available - I guess he didn't have time to finish it
for release or his employer did not allow sharing.

Thanks for the pointer. It would be awesome to have available.


Morten




> Den 25. februar 2016 klokken 17:44 skrev Ed Manning <etmth...@gmail.com>:
> 
> 
> You could also try reaching out to Christian Gotzinger, who did this
> several years ago now  :
> 
> https://vimeo.com/40777017
> 
> 
> On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 11:34 AM, Ed Manning <etmth...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > found this on rray.de/xsi:
> >
> > http://www.paoloemilioselva.it/citygenerator.html
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 10:11 AM, Morten Bartholdy <x...@colorshopvfx.dk>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks Chris, but I am looking for something that allows for more
> >> irregular and
> >> organic looking cityscapes. I found the tool I was thinking of -
> >> unfortunately
> >> it was not ICE based:
> >>
> >> http://www.esri.com/software/cityengine
> >>
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFRqSJFp-I0
> >>
> >>
> >> Morten
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > Den 25. februar 2016 klokken 15:31 skrev Chris Marshall
> >> > <chrismarshal...@gmail.com>:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > I did this really simple one:-
> >> >
> >> > https://vimeo.com/5200892
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On 22 February 2016 at 13:00, Morten Bartholdy <x...@colorshopvfx.dk>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Thanks Sven - I will check that one out :)
> >> > >
> >> > > MB
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > > Den 22. februar 2016 klokken 13:51 skrev Sven Constable
> >> > > > <sixsi_l...@imagefront.de>:
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Theres also CityEngine. I have no clue about pricing.
> >> > > > http://www.esri.com/software/cityengine
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > -Original Message-
> >> > > > From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
> >> > > > [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of
> >> Morten
> >> > > > Bartholdy
> >> > > > Sent: Monday, February 22, 2016 11:07 AM
> >> > > > To: Userlist, Softimage
> >> > > > Subject: City generator?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I thought I once saw an ICE based City Generator system for XSI,
> >> but I
> >> > > might
> >> > > > be mistaken. I found two systems on rray.de/xsi which look a bit
> >> > > rudimentary
> >> > > > - I am looking for something that allow you to do road and cityblock
> >> > > layout
> >> > > > and position buildings procedurally based on that. Do any of you
> >> know of
> >> > > a
> >> > > > good system, even if not xsi based?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Cheers
> >> > > > Morten
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Re: City generator?

[Morten Bartholdy]

Yeah I saw that one - it looks great. No can do Max though - would be great if a
similar thing had been built in ICE.

MB


> Den 25. februar 2016 klokken 22:26 skrev Fabian Schnuer Gohde
> <list@gohde.no>:
> 
> 
> there is also http://www.kilad.net/ghosttown/ for 3dsmax in case you have
> that available.
> 
> mvh,
> Fabian
> 
> On 22 February 2016 at 11:07, Morten Bartholdy <x...@colorshopvfx.dk> wrote:
> 
> > I thought I once saw an ICE based City Generator system for XSI, but I
> > might be
> > mistaken. I found two systems on rray.de/xsi which look a bit rudimentary
> > - I am
> > looking for something that allow you to do road and cityblock layout and
> > position buildings procedurally based on that. Do any of you know of a good
> > system, even if not xsi based?
> >
> > Cheers
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Re: City generator?

[Morten Bartholdy]

I tried this one but get this error:

// ERROR : 2360 - This plug-in is not compatible with the current platform and
will be ignored:
// 
// 
// ERROR : 2006 - Unexpected failure. - [line 13]
// ERROR : Property Page Script Logic Error
// ERROR :[11]  // LOAD BLOB_DETECTION PLUGIN
// ERROR :[12]  try { Application.UnloadPlugin( SCRIPTS + 
"getBlobs.dll" );
} catch(e) { }
// ERROR :   >[13]  Application.LoadPlugin( SCRIPTS + "getBlobs.dll" );
// ERROR :[14]  
// ERROR :[15]  toConsole(oc, "[CLEAR]"); // clear console
// ERROR : 2006 -   Unexpected failure.


I have no idea what throws it off - I am on 2013 SP1.

MB


> Den 25. februar 2016 klokken 17:34 skrev Ed Manning <etmth...@gmail.com>:
> 
> 
> found this on rray.de/xsi:
> 
> http://www.paoloemilioselva.it/citygenerator.html
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 10:11 AM, Morten Bartholdy <x...@colorshopvfx.dk>
> wrote:
> 
> > Thanks Chris, but I am looking for something that allows for more
> > irregular and
> > organic looking cityscapes. I found the tool I was thinking of -
> > unfortunately
> > it was not ICE based:
> >
> > http://www.esri.com/software/cityengine
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFRqSJFp-I0
> >
> >
> > Morten
> >
> >
> >
> > > Den 25. februar 2016 klokken 15:31 skrev Chris Marshall
> > > <chrismarshal...@gmail.com>:
> > >
> > >
> > > I did this really simple one:-
> > >
> > > https://vimeo.com/5200892
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 22 February 2016 at 13:00, Morten Bartholdy <x...@colorshopvfx.dk>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Thanks Sven - I will check that one out :)
> > > >
> > > > MB
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Den 22. februar 2016 klokken 13:51 skrev Sven Constable
> > > > > <sixsi_l...@imagefront.de>:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Theres also CityEngine. I have no clue about pricing.
> > > > > http://www.esri.com/software/cityengine
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
> > > > > [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Morten
> > > > > Bartholdy
> > > > > Sent: Monday, February 22, 2016 11:07 AM
> > > > > To: Userlist, Softimage
> > > > > Subject: City generator?
> > > > >
> > > > > I thought I once saw an ICE based City Generator system for XSI, but
> > I
> > > > might
> > > > > be mistaken. I found two systems on rray.de/xsi which look a bit
> > > > rudimentary
> > > > > - I am looking for something that allow you to do road and cityblock
> > > > layout
> > > > > and position buildings procedurally based on that. Do any of you
> > know of
> > > > a
> > > > > good system, even if not xsi based?
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers
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Re: City generator?

[Fabian Schnuer Gohde]

there is also http://www.kilad.net/ghosttown/ for 3dsmax in case you have
that available.

mvh,
Fabian

On 22 February 2016 at 11:07, Morten Bartholdy <x...@colorshopvfx.dk> wrote:

> I thought I once saw an ICE based City Generator system for XSI, but I
> might be
> mistaken. I found two systems on rray.de/xsi which look a bit rudimentary
> - I am
> looking for something that allow you to do road and cityblock layout and
> position buildings procedurally based on that. Do any of you know of a good
> system, even if not xsi based?
>
> Cheers
> Morten
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Re: City generator?

[Ed Manning]

And holy crap, if you Google "procedural City" there's a lot out there!
Probably not much using Softimage, but maybe something cheap -- there seem
to be Unity plug-ins for it.

https://www.google.com/search?q=procedural+city=X=1C1CHFX_enUS657US657=2=1187=1014=isch=u=univ=0ahUKEwj09eD6rpPLAhUJez4KHZY4DhIQsAQIHA


On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 11:44 AM, Ed Manning <etmth...@gmail.com> wrote:

> You could also try reaching out to Christian Gotzinger, who did this
> several years ago now  :
>
> https://vimeo.com/40777017
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 11:34 AM, Ed Manning <etmth...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> found this on rray.de/xsi:
>>
>> http://www.paoloemilioselva.it/citygenerator.html
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 10:11 AM, Morten Bartholdy <x...@colorshopvfx.dk>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Chris, but I am looking for something that allows for more
>>> irregular and
>>> organic looking cityscapes. I found the tool I was thinking of -
>>> unfortunately
>>> it was not ICE based:
>>>
>>> http://www.esri.com/software/cityengine
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFRqSJFp-I0
>>>
>>>
>>> Morten
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > Den 25. februar 2016 klokken 15:31 skrev Chris Marshall
>>> > <chrismarshal...@gmail.com>:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > I did this really simple one:-
>>> >
>>> > https://vimeo.com/5200892
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On 22 February 2016 at 13:00, Morten Bartholdy <x...@colorshopvfx.dk>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > Thanks Sven - I will check that one out :)
>>> > >
>>> > > MB
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > > Den 22. februar 2016 klokken 13:51 skrev Sven Constable
>>> > > > <sixsi_l...@imagefront.de>:
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Theres also CityEngine. I have no clue about pricing.
>>> > > > http://www.esri.com/software/cityengine
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > > -Original Message-
>>> > > > From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
>>> > > > [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of
>>> Morten
>>> > > > Bartholdy
>>> > > > Sent: Monday, February 22, 2016 11:07 AM
>>> > > > To: Userlist, Softimage
>>> > > > Subject: City generator?
>>> > > >
>>> > > > I thought I once saw an ICE based City Generator system for XSI,
>>> but I
>>> > > might
>>> > > > be mistaken. I found two systems on rray.de/xsi which look a bit
>>> > > rudimentary
>>> > > > - I am looking for something that allow you to do road and
>>> cityblock
>>> > > layout
>>> > > > and position buildings procedurally based on that. Do any of you
>>> know of
>>> > > a
>>> > > > good system, even if not xsi based?
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Cheers
>>> > > > Morten
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Re: City generator?

[Ed Manning]

You could also try reaching out to Christian Gotzinger, who did this
several years ago now  :

https://vimeo.com/40777017


On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 11:34 AM, Ed Manning <etmth...@gmail.com> wrote:

> found this on rray.de/xsi:
>
> http://www.paoloemilioselva.it/citygenerator.html
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 10:11 AM, Morten Bartholdy <x...@colorshopvfx.dk>
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Chris, but I am looking for something that allows for more
>> irregular and
>> organic looking cityscapes. I found the tool I was thinking of -
>> unfortunately
>> it was not ICE based:
>>
>> http://www.esri.com/software/cityengine
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFRqSJFp-I0
>>
>>
>> Morten
>>
>>
>>
>> > Den 25. februar 2016 klokken 15:31 skrev Chris Marshall
>> > <chrismarshal...@gmail.com>:
>> >
>> >
>> > I did this really simple one:-
>> >
>> > https://vimeo.com/5200892
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 22 February 2016 at 13:00, Morten Bartholdy <x...@colorshopvfx.dk>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Thanks Sven - I will check that one out :)
>> > >
>> > > MB
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > > Den 22. februar 2016 klokken 13:51 skrev Sven Constable
>> > > > <sixsi_l...@imagefront.de>:
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Theres also CityEngine. I have no clue about pricing.
>> > > > http://www.esri.com/software/cityengine
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > -Original Message-
>> > > > From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
>> > > > [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of
>> Morten
>> > > > Bartholdy
>> > > > Sent: Monday, February 22, 2016 11:07 AM
>> > > > To: Userlist, Softimage
>> > > > Subject: City generator?
>> > > >
>> > > > I thought I once saw an ICE based City Generator system for XSI,
>> but I
>> > > might
>> > > > be mistaken. I found two systems on rray.de/xsi which look a bit
>> > > rudimentary
>> > > > - I am looking for something that allow you to do road and cityblock
>> > > layout
>> > > > and position buildings procedurally based on that. Do any of you
>> know of
>> > > a
>> > > > good system, even if not xsi based?
>> > > >
>> > > > Cheers
>> > > > Morten
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Re: City generator?

[Ed Manning]

found this on rray.de/xsi:

http://www.paoloemilioselva.it/citygenerator.html



On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 10:11 AM, Morten Bartholdy <x...@colorshopvfx.dk>
wrote:

> Thanks Chris, but I am looking for something that allows for more
> irregular and
> organic looking cityscapes. I found the tool I was thinking of -
> unfortunately
> it was not ICE based:
>
> http://www.esri.com/software/cityengine
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFRqSJFp-I0
>
>
> Morten
>
>
>
> > Den 25. februar 2016 klokken 15:31 skrev Chris Marshall
> > <chrismarshal...@gmail.com>:
> >
> >
> > I did this really simple one:-
> >
> > https://vimeo.com/5200892
> >
> >
> >
> > On 22 February 2016 at 13:00, Morten Bartholdy <x...@colorshopvfx.dk>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks Sven - I will check that one out :)
> > >
> > > MB
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Den 22. februar 2016 klokken 13:51 skrev Sven Constable
> > > > <sixsi_l...@imagefront.de>:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Theres also CityEngine. I have no clue about pricing.
> > > > http://www.esri.com/software/cityengine
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
> > > > [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Morten
> > > > Bartholdy
> > > > Sent: Monday, February 22, 2016 11:07 AM
> > > > To: Userlist, Softimage
> > > > Subject: City generator?
> > > >
> > > > I thought I once saw an ICE based City Generator system for XSI, but
> I
> > > might
> > > > be mistaken. I found two systems on rray.de/xsi which look a bit
> > > rudimentary
> > > > - I am looking for something that allow you to do road and cityblock
> > > layout
> > > > and position buildings procedurally based on that. Do any of you
> know of
> > > a
> > > > good system, even if not xsi based?
> > > >
> > > > Cheers
> > > > Morten
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Re: City generator?

[Morten Bartholdy]

Thanks Chris, but I am looking for something that allows for more irregular and
organic looking cityscapes. I found the tool I was thinking of - unfortunately
it was not ICE based:

http://www.esri.com/software/cityengine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFRqSJFp-I0


Morten



> Den 25. februar 2016 klokken 15:31 skrev Chris Marshall
> <chrismarshal...@gmail.com>:
> 
> 
> I did this really simple one:-
> 
> https://vimeo.com/5200892
> 
> 
> 
> On 22 February 2016 at 13:00, Morten Bartholdy <x...@colorshopvfx.dk> wrote:
> 
> > Thanks Sven - I will check that one out :)
> >
> > MB
> >
> >
> >
> > > Den 22. februar 2016 klokken 13:51 skrev Sven Constable
> > > <sixsi_l...@imagefront.de>:
> > >
> > >
> > > Theres also CityEngine. I have no clue about pricing.
> > > http://www.esri.com/software/cityengine
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
> > > [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Morten
> > > Bartholdy
> > > Sent: Monday, February 22, 2016 11:07 AM
> > > To: Userlist, Softimage
> > > Subject: City generator?
> > >
> > > I thought I once saw an ICE based City Generator system for XSI, but I
> > might
> > > be mistaken. I found two systems on rray.de/xsi which look a bit
> > rudimentary
> > > - I am looking for something that allow you to do road and cityblock
> > layout
> > > and position buildings procedurally based on that. Do any of you know of
> > a
> > > good system, even if not xsi based?
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > > Morten
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Re: City generator?

[Chris Marshall]

I did this really simple one:-

https://vimeo.com/5200892



On 22 February 2016 at 13:00, Morten Bartholdy <x...@colorshopvfx.dk> wrote:

> Thanks Sven - I will check that one out :)
>
> MB
>
>
>
> > Den 22. februar 2016 klokken 13:51 skrev Sven Constable
> > <sixsi_l...@imagefront.de>:
> >
> >
> > Theres also CityEngine. I have no clue about pricing.
> > http://www.esri.com/software/cityengine
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
> > [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Morten
> > Bartholdy
> > Sent: Monday, February 22, 2016 11:07 AM
> > To: Userlist, Softimage
> > Subject: City generator?
> >
> > I thought I once saw an ICE based City Generator system for XSI, but I
> might
> > be mistaken. I found two systems on rray.de/xsi which look a bit
> rudimentary
> > - I am looking for something that allow you to do road and cityblock
> layout
> > and position buildings procedurally based on that. Do any of you know of
> a
> > good system, even if not xsi based?
> >
> > Cheers
> > Morten
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RE: City generator?

[Morten Bartholdy]

Thanks Sven - I will check that one out :)

MB



> Den 22. februar 2016 klokken 13:51 skrev Sven Constable
> <sixsi_l...@imagefront.de>:
> 
> 
> Theres also CityEngine. I have no clue about pricing.
> http://www.esri.com/software/cityengine
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Morten
> Bartholdy
> Sent: Monday, February 22, 2016 11:07 AM
> To: Userlist, Softimage
> Subject: City generator?
> 
> I thought I once saw an ICE based City Generator system for XSI, but I might
> be mistaken. I found two systems on rray.de/xsi which look a bit rudimentary
> - I am looking for something that allow you to do road and cityblock layout
> and position buildings procedurally based on that. Do any of you know of a
> good system, even if not xsi based?
> 
> Cheers
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RE: City generator?

[Sven Constable]

Theres also CityEngine. I have no clue about pricing.
http://www.esri.com/software/cityengine


-Original Message-
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Morten
Bartholdy
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2016 11:07 AM
To: Userlist, Softimage
Subject: City generator?

I thought I once saw an ICE based City Generator system for XSI, but I might
be mistaken. I found two systems on rray.de/xsi which look a bit rudimentary
- I am looking for something that allow you to do road and cityblock layout
and position buildings procedurally based on that. Do any of you know of a
good system, even if not xsi based?

Cheers
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Re: City generator?

[Rob Wuijster]

I can recall Eric Mootz released a ICE based road system (with cars?) once.

Rob

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On 22-2-2016 11:07, Morten Bartholdy wrote:

I thought I once saw an ICE based City Generator system for XSI, but I might be
mistaken. I found two systems on rray.de/xsi which look a bit rudimentary - I am
looking for something that allow you to do road and cityblock layout and
position buildings procedurally based on that. Do any of you know of a good
system, even if not xsi based?

Cheers
Morten
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City generator?

[Morten Bartholdy]

I thought I once saw an ICE based City Generator system for XSI, but I might be
mistaken. I found two systems on rray.de/xsi which look a bit rudimentary - I am
looking for something that allow you to do road and cityblock layout and
position buildings procedurally based on that. Do any of you know of a good
system, even if not xsi based?

Cheers
Morten
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