FCurve Editor SDK?

2013-08-29 Thread Michael Heberlein
Hey gang,

I would like to write a simple tool that locally scales selected keys from
multiple fcurves (relative to each curve's start/average/end value), as one
of our animators convinced me it would speed up his daily work alot.

Is this possible at all? I could not find a way to get the selected curves
and keys via scripting or the SDK. "Custom Tools" also seem to work in the
3D views only. Am I missing something or is the FCurve Editor just not
customizable?

Another thing is, I'd like to add a custom menu to the FCurve Editor that
provides easy access to features like, for example, absolute/relative
pasting (hidden in the preferences) but had no luck again: There's no
appropriate menu anchor point available.

Thanks,
Michael


Re: FCurve Editor SDK?

2013-08-29 Thread Eric Thivierge

Do they know about the Q tool in the FCurve editor?

You can access the selected fcurves I believe from finding the FCurve 
editor View object from the Views collection. Then you can use the 
GetAttributeValue for the selected fcurves (look up in the docs for the 
correct argument to pass).



On August-29-13 10:49:34 AM, Michael Heberlein wrote:

Hey gang,

I would like to write a simple tool that locally scales selected keys
from multiple fcurves (relative to each curve's start/average/end
value), as one of our animators convinced me it would speed up his
daily work alot.

Is this possible at all? I could not find a way to get the selected
curves and keys via scripting or the SDK. "Custom Tools" also seem to
work in the 3D views only. Am I missing something or is the FCurve
Editor just not customizable?

Another thing is, I'd like to add a custom menu to the FCurve Editor
that provides easy access to features like, for example,
absolute/relative pasting (hidden in the preferences) but had no luck
again: There's no appropriate menu anchor point available.

Thanks,
Michael





Re: FCurve Editor SDK?

2013-08-29 Thread Stephen Blair

FcurveEditor ?
http://download.autodesk.com/global/docs/softimage2013/en_us/sdkguide/index.html?url=si_om/FCurveEditor.html,topicNumber=si_om_FCurveEditor_html

On 29/08/2013 10:49 AM, Michael Heberlein wrote:
I could not find a way to get the selected curves and keys via 
scripting or the SDK.




Re: FCurve Editor SDK?

2013-08-29 Thread Stephen Blair

On 29/08/2013 10:49 AM, Michael Heberlein wrote:
I'd like to add a custom menu to the FCurve Editor that provides easy 
access to features like, for example, absolute/relative pasting 
(hidden in the preferences) but had no luck again: There's no 
appropriate menu anchor point available.


Wouldn't siMenuFCurveEditorTopLevelID  be appropriate?

siMenuAnchorPoints.siMenuFCurveEditorTopLevelID // 3500
siMenuAnchorPoints.siMenuFCurveEditorFileID // 3501
siMenuAnchorPoints.siMenuFCurveEditorEditID // 3502
 siMenuAnchorPoints.siMenuFCurveEditorViewID // 3503
siMenuAnchorPoints.siMenuFCurveEditorKeysID // 3504
siMenuAnchorPoints.siMenuFCurveEditorCurvesID // 3505
 siMenuAnchorPoints.siMenuFCurveEditorSelectID


Re: FCurve Editor SDK?

2013-08-29 Thread Michael Heberlein
Eric, yes they know the Q tool but if I got it right, this only works for
one curve at a time and not with multiple curves.

Stephen, I was searching the 2012 docs and it looks like these anchors were
introduced in 2013?
I should have found the FCurveEditor page though ;D thank you!

Cheers,
Michael


On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 4:58 PM, Stephen Blair wrote:

> On 29/08/2013 10:49 AM, Michael Heberlein wrote:
>
>> I'd like to add a custom menu to the FCurve Editor that provides easy
>> access to features like, for example, absolute/relative pasting (hidden in
>> the preferences) but had no luck again: There's no appropriate menu anchor
>> point available.
>>
>
> Wouldn't siMenuFCurveEditorTopLevelID  be appropriate?
>
> siMenuAnchorPoints.**siMenuFCurveEditorTopLevelID // 3500
> siMenuAnchorPoints.**siMenuFCurveEditorFileID // 3501
> siMenuAnchorPoints.**siMenuFCurveEditorEditID // 3502
>  siMenuAnchorPoints.**siMenuFCurveEditorViewID // 3503
> siMenuAnchorPoints.**siMenuFCurveEditorKeysID // 3504
> siMenuAnchorPoints.**siMenuFCurveEditorCurvesID // 3505
>  siMenuAnchorPoints.**siMenuFCurveEditorSelectID
>


Re: FCurve Editor SDK?

2013-08-29 Thread Eric Thivierge

Works on multiple for me.

On August-29-13 11:16:30 AM, Michael Heberlein wrote:

Eric, yes they know the Q tool but if I got it right, this only works
for one curve at a time and not with multiple curves.

Stephen, I was searching the 2012 docs and it looks like these anchors
were introduced in 2013?
I should have found the FCurveEditor page though ;D thank you!

Cheers,
Michael


On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 4:58 PM, Stephen Blair
mailto:stephenrbl...@gmail.com>> wrote:

On 29/08/2013 10:49 AM, Michael Heberlein wrote:

I'd like to add a custom menu to the FCurve Editor that
provides easy access to features like, for example,
absolute/relative pasting (hidden in the preferences) but had
no luck again: There's no appropriate menu anchor point available.


Wouldn't siMenuFCurveEditorTopLevelID  be appropriate?

siMenuAnchorPoints.__siMenuFCurveEditorTopLevelID // 3500
siMenuAnchorPoints.__siMenuFCurveEditorFileID // 3501
siMenuAnchorPoints.__siMenuFCurveEditorEditID // 3502
 siMenuAnchorPoints.__siMenuFCurveEditorViewID // 3503
siMenuAnchorPoints.__siMenuFCurveEditorKeysID // 3504
siMenuAnchorPoints.__siMenuFCurveEditorCurvesID // 3505
 siMenuAnchorPoints.__siMenuFCurveEditorSelectID






Re: FCurve Editor SDK?

2013-08-29 Thread Michael Heberlein
Here's a dancing fcurve gif of what he wants. Am i an animator now? ;)
If it's already possible and you know the magic button to press, that would
be perfect!

[image: Inline image 3]   [image: Inline image 4]



On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Eric Thivierge wrote:

> Works on multiple for me.
>
>
> On August-29-13 11:16:30 AM, Michael Heberlein wrote:
>
>> Eric, yes they know the Q tool but if I got it right, this only works
>> for one curve at a time and not with multiple curves.
>>
>> Stephen, I was searching the 2012 docs and it looks like these anchors
>> were introduced in 2013?
>> I should have found the FCurveEditor page though ;D thank you!
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Michael
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 4:58 PM, Stephen Blair
>> > >
>> wrote:
>>
>> On 29/08/2013 10:49 AM, Michael Heberlein wrote:
>>
>> I'd like to add a custom menu to the FCurve Editor that
>> provides easy access to features like, for example,
>> absolute/relative pasting (hidden in the preferences) but had
>> no luck again: There's no appropriate menu anchor point available.
>>
>>
>> Wouldn't siMenuFCurveEditorTopLevelID  be appropriate?
>>
>> siMenuAnchorPoints.__**siMenuFCurveEditorTopLevelID // 3500
>> siMenuAnchorPoints.__**siMenuFCurveEditorFileID // 3501
>> siMenuAnchorPoints.__**siMenuFCurveEditorEditID // 3502
>>  siMenuAnchorPoints.__**siMenuFCurveEditorViewID // 3503
>> siMenuAnchorPoints.__**siMenuFCurveEditorKeysID // 3504
>> siMenuAnchorPoints.__**siMenuFCurveEditorCurvesID // 3505
>>  siMenuAnchorPoints.__**siMenuFCurveEditorSelectID
>>
>>
>>
>
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Re: FCurve Editor SDK?

2013-08-29 Thread Eric Thivierge
Ah, I got you. grab all of them and act on the keyframes relative to 
each fcurves average's not all together. I've wanted that interaction 
forever. Would be nice if the Devs could implement this by default.


Good luck on implementing it. I'm sure it's doable.

On August-29-13 11:56:51 AM, Michael Heberlein wrote:

Here's a dancing fcurve gif of what he wants. Am i an animator now? ;)
If it's already possible and you know the magic button to press, that
would be perfect!

Inline image 3 Inline image 4



On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Eric Thivierge
mailto:ethivie...@hybride.com>> wrote:

Works on multiple for me.


On August-29-13 11:16:30 AM, Michael Heberlein wrote:

Eric, yes they know the Q tool but if I got it right, this
only works
for one curve at a time and not with multiple curves.

Stephen, I was searching the 2012 docs and it looks like these
anchors
were introduced in 2013?
I should have found the FCurveEditor page though ;D thank you!

Cheers,
Michael


On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 4:58 PM, Stephen Blair
mailto:stephenrbl...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:

On 29/08/2013 10:49 AM, Michael Heberlein wrote:

I'd like to add a custom menu to the FCurve Editor that
provides easy access to features like, for example,
absolute/relative pasting (hidden in the preferences)
but had
no luck again: There's no appropriate menu anchor
point available.


Wouldn't siMenuFCurveEditorTopLevelID  be appropriate?

siMenuAnchorPoints.siMenuFCurveEditorTopLevelID // 3500
siMenuAnchorPoints.siMenuFCurveEditorFileID // 3501
siMenuAnchorPoints.siMenuFCurveEditorEditID // 3502
 siMenuAnchorPoints.siMenuFCurveEditorViewID // 3503
siMenuAnchorPoints.siMenuFCurveEditorKeysID // 3504
siMenuAnchorPoints.siMenuFCurveEditorCurvesID // 3505
 siMenuAnchorPoints.siMenuFCurveEditorSelectID








Re: FCurve Editor SDK?

2013-08-29 Thread Martin
You can get the selected FCurves with FCurveSelection. Then all you would
have to do is get the keys values, find the average value and move your
keys.
adapt the tangents to keep your curves would be a little problematic, but
for something linear it shouldn't be that hard.

Martin


On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 12:59 AM, Eric Thivierge wrote:

> Ah, I got you. grab all of them and act on the keyframes relative to each
> fcurves average's not all together. I've wanted that interaction forever.
> Would be nice if the Devs could implement this by default.
>
> Good luck on implementing it. I'm sure it's doable.
>
>
> On August-29-13 11:56:51 AM, Michael Heberlein wrote:
>
>> Here's a dancing fcurve gif of what he wants. Am i an animator now? ;)
>> If it's already possible and you know the magic button to press, that
>> would be perfect!
>>
>> Inline image 3 Inline image 4
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Eric Thivierge
>> mailto:ethivie...@hybride.com**>> wrote:
>>
>> Works on multiple for me.
>>
>>
>> On August-29-13 11:16:30 AM, Michael Heberlein wrote:
>>
>> Eric, yes they know the Q tool but if I got it right, this
>> only works
>> for one curve at a time and not with multiple curves.
>>
>> Stephen, I was searching the 2012 docs and it looks like these
>> anchors
>> were introduced in 2013?
>> I should have found the FCurveEditor page though ;D thank you!
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Michael
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 4:58 PM, Stephen Blair
>> > > >
>> >
>> >>
>> wrote:
>>
>> On 29/08/2013 10:49 AM, Michael Heberlein wrote:
>>
>> I'd like to add a custom menu to the FCurve Editor that
>> provides easy access to features like, for example,
>> absolute/relative pasting (hidden in the preferences)
>> but had
>> no luck again: There's no appropriate menu anchor
>> point available.
>>
>>
>> Wouldn't siMenuFCurveEditorTopLevelID  be appropriate?
>>
>> siMenuAnchorPoints.**siMenuFCurveEditorTopLevelID // 3500
>> siMenuAnchorPoints.**siMenuFCurveEditorFileID // 3501
>> siMenuAnchorPoints.**siMenuFCurveEditorEditID // 3502
>>  siMenuAnchorPoints.**siMenuFCurveEditorViewID // 3503
>> siMenuAnchorPoints.**siMenuFCurveEditorKeysID // 3504
>> siMenuAnchorPoints.**siMenuFCurveEditorCurvesID // 3505
>>  siMenuAnchorPoints.**siMenuFCurveEditorSelectID
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>


Re: FCurve Editor SDK?

2013-08-29 Thread wavo

  
  
Hello Michael :-) 
  
  Its not exactly what you need and I guess your version will be
  smarter but did you also try the HLC(HighLevelEditing)
  
  Select the Curves then change in Fcurve-editor to "Absolute
  Scaling" and now you got a New Fcurve ,controlling the others
  (Lord of the Fcurves)
  
  bin Raus...
  
  
  Walt
  
  Am 8/29/2013 5:56 PM, schrieb Michael Heberlein:


  
Here's a dancing fcurve gif of what he wants. Am i an
  animator now? ;)
If it's already possible and you know the magic button to
  press, that would be perfect!


   


  
  

On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Eric
  Thivierge 
  wrote:
  Works on
multiple for me.

  
  On August-29-13 11:16:30 AM, Michael Heberlein wrote:


  
Eric, yes they know the Q tool but if I got it right,
this only works
for one curve at a time and not with multiple curves.

Stephen, I was searching the 2012 docs and it looks like
these anchors
were introduced in 2013?
I should have found the FCurveEditor page though ;D
thank you!

Cheers,
Michael


On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 4:58 PM, Stephen Blair
  
  
>
wrote:

    On 29/08/2013 10:49 AM, Michael Heberlein wrote:

        I'd like to add a custom menu to the FCurve
Editor that
        provides easy access to features like, for
example,
        absolute/relative pasting (hidden in the
preferences) but had
        no luck again: There's no appropriate menu
anchor point available.


    Wouldn't siMenuFCurveEditorTopLevelID  be
appropriate?

  
      siMenuAnchorPoints.__siMenuFCurveEditorTopLevelID //
  3500
      siMenuAnchorPoints.__siMenuFCurveEditorFileID // 3501
      siMenuAnchorPoints.__siMenuFCurveEditorEditID // 3502
       siMenuAnchorPoints.__siMenuFCurveEditorViewID // 3503
      siMenuAnchorPoints.__siMenuFCurveEditorKeysID // 3504
      siMenuAnchorPoints.__siMenuFCurveEditorCurvesID //
  3505
       siMenuAnchorPoints.__siMenuFCurveEditorSelectID
  
  


  


  



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Re: FCurve Editor SDK?

2013-08-29 Thread Luc-Eric Rousseau
isn't there a command-based way to hook into the fcurve editor for
other versions, stephen? can't find referneces to it in the doc

On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Stephen Blair  wrote:
> On 29/08/2013 10:49 AM, Michael Heberlein wrote:
>>
>> I'd like to add a custom menu to the FCurve Editor that provides easy
>> access to features like, for example, absolute/relative pasting (hidden in
>> the preferences) but had no luck again: There's no appropriate menu anchor
>> point available.
>
>
> Wouldn't siMenuFCurveEditorTopLevelID  be appropriate?
>
> siMenuAnchorPoints.siMenuFCurveEditorTopLevelID // 3500
> siMenuAnchorPoints.siMenuFCurveEditorFileID // 3501
> siMenuAnchorPoints.siMenuFCurveEditorEditID // 3502
>  siMenuAnchorPoints.siMenuFCurveEditorViewID // 3503
> siMenuAnchorPoints.siMenuFCurveEditorKeysID // 3504
> siMenuAnchorPoints.siMenuFCurveEditorCurvesID // 3505
>  siMenuAnchorPoints.siMenuFCurveEditorSelectID


Re: FCurve Editor SDK?

2013-08-29 Thread Stephen Blair

Yes, there is: the FcurveEditor command category:

siFCurveCategory

Category of commands which operate on fcurves and appear in the Edit 
menu of the fcurve editor. They cannot be invoked from Scripting. They 
take a single argument which is the FCurveEditor context object


So you would do something like:
Application.CreateCommand("FCurveEditorInfo", siFCurveCategory)

There's an example on the FcurveEditor object page.


On 29/08/2013 12:33 PM, Luc-Eric Rousseau wrote:

isn't there a command-based way to hook into the fcurve editor for
other versions, stephen? can't find referneces to it in the doc

On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Stephen Blair  wrote:

On 29/08/2013 10:49 AM, Michael Heberlein wrote:

I'd like to add a custom menu to the FCurve Editor that provides easy
access to features like, for example, absolute/relative pasting (hidden in
the preferences) but had no luck again: There's no appropriate menu anchor
point available.


Wouldn't siMenuFCurveEditorTopLevelID  be appropriate?

siMenuAnchorPoints.siMenuFCurveEditorTopLevelID // 3500
siMenuAnchorPoints.siMenuFCurveEditorFileID // 3501
siMenuAnchorPoints.siMenuFCurveEditorEditID // 3502
  siMenuAnchorPoints.siMenuFCurveEditorViewID // 3503
siMenuAnchorPoints.siMenuFCurveEditorKeysID // 3504
siMenuAnchorPoints.siMenuFCurveEditorCurvesID // 3505
  siMenuAnchorPoints.siMenuFCurveEditorSelectID




Re: FCurve Editor SDK?

2013-08-29 Thread Michael Heberlein
Hey Walt! Cool, I didn't know this mode. It looks more like a lattice
effect but may be handy in some cases. Cheers :)



On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 6:10 PM, wavo  wrote:

>  Hello Michael :-)
>
> Its not exactly what you need and I guess your version will be smarter but
> did you also try the HLC(HighLevelEditing)
>
> Select the Curves then change in Fcurve-editor to "Absolute Scaling" and
> now you got a New Fcurve ,controlling the others (Lord of the Fcurves)
>
> bin Raus...
>
>
> Walt
>
> Am 8/29/2013 5:56 PM, schrieb Michael Heberlein:
>
>  Here's a dancing fcurve gif of what he wants. Am i an animator now? ;)
> If it's already possible and you know the magic button to press, that
> would be perfect!
>
>  [image: Inline image 3]   [image: Inline image 4]
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Eric Thivierge wrote:
>
>> Works on multiple for me.
>>
>>
>> On August-29-13 11:16:30 AM, Michael Heberlein wrote:
>>
>>>  Eric, yes they know the Q tool but if I got it right, this only works
>>> for one curve at a time and not with multiple curves.
>>>
>>> Stephen, I was searching the 2012 docs and it looks like these anchors
>>> were introduced in 2013?
>>> I should have found the FCurveEditor page though ;D thank you!
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Michael
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 4:58 PM, Stephen Blair
>>>  mailto:stephenrbl...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 29/08/2013 10:49 AM, Michael Heberlein wrote:
>>>
>>> I'd like to add a custom menu to the FCurve Editor that
>>> provides easy access to features like, for example,
>>> absolute/relative pasting (hidden in the preferences) but had
>>> no luck again: There's no appropriate menu anchor point
>>> available.
>>>
>>>
>>> Wouldn't siMenuFCurveEditorTopLevelID  be appropriate?
>>>
>>>  siMenuAnchorPoints.__siMenuFCurveEditorTopLevelID // 3500
>>> siMenuAnchorPoints.__siMenuFCurveEditorFileID // 3501
>>> siMenuAnchorPoints.__siMenuFCurveEditorEditID // 3502
>>>  siMenuAnchorPoints.__siMenuFCurveEditorViewID // 3503
>>> siMenuAnchorPoints.__siMenuFCurveEditorKeysID // 3504
>>> siMenuAnchorPoints.__siMenuFCurveEditorCurvesID // 3505
>>>  siMenuAnchorPoints.__siMenuFCurveEditorSelectID
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
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>
>
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>
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Re: FCurve Editor SDK?

2013-08-29 Thread Michael Heberlein
The siFCurveCategory way this is what I'm doing now.
I'll post the plugin here if I get everything working. Thanks all!



On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 8:46 PM, Michael Heberlein
wrote:

> Hey Walt! Cool, I didn't know this mode. It looks more like a lattice
> effect but may be handy in some cases. Cheers :)
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 6:10 PM, wavo  wrote:
>
>>  Hello Michael :-)
>>
>> Its not exactly what you need and I guess your version will be smarter
>> but did you also try the HLC(HighLevelEditing)
>>
>> Select the Curves then change in Fcurve-editor to "Absolute Scaling" and
>> now you got a New Fcurve ,controlling the others (Lord of the Fcurves)
>>
>> bin Raus...
>>
>>
>> Walt
>>
>> Am 8/29/2013 5:56 PM, schrieb Michael Heberlein:
>>
>>  Here's a dancing fcurve gif of what he wants. Am i an animator now? ;)
>> If it's already possible and you know the magic button to press, that
>> would be perfect!
>>
>>  [image: Inline image 3]   [image: Inline image 4]
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Eric Thivierge 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Works on multiple for me.
>>>
>>>
>>> On August-29-13 11:16:30 AM, Michael Heberlein wrote:
>>>
  Eric, yes they know the Q tool but if I got it right, this only works
 for one curve at a time and not with multiple curves.

 Stephen, I was searching the 2012 docs and it looks like these anchors
 were introduced in 2013?
 I should have found the FCurveEditor page though ;D thank you!

 Cheers,
 Michael


 On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 4:58 PM, Stephen Blair
  mailto:stephenrbl...@gmail.com>> wrote:

 On 29/08/2013 10:49 AM, Michael Heberlein wrote:

 I'd like to add a custom menu to the FCurve Editor that
 provides easy access to features like, for example,
 absolute/relative pasting (hidden in the preferences) but had
 no luck again: There's no appropriate menu anchor point
 available.


 Wouldn't siMenuFCurveEditorTopLevelID  be appropriate?

  siMenuAnchorPoints.__siMenuFCurveEditorTopLevelID // 3500
 siMenuAnchorPoints.__siMenuFCurveEditorFileID // 3501
 siMenuAnchorPoints.__siMenuFCurveEditorEditID // 3502
  siMenuAnchorPoints.__siMenuFCurveEditorViewID // 3503
 siMenuAnchorPoints.__siMenuFCurveEditorKeysID // 3504
 siMenuAnchorPoints.__siMenuFCurveEditorCurvesID // 3505
  siMenuAnchorPoints.__siMenuFCurveEditorSelectID



>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> *Walter Volbers***
>>  Senior Animator
>>
>> *FIFTYEIGHT*** 3D
>> **Animation & Digital Effects GmbH
>>
>> Kontorhaus Osthafen
>> Lindleystraße 12
>> 60314 Frankfurt am Main
>> Germany
>>
>> Telefon +49 (0) 69.48 000 55.50
>> Telefax +49 (0) 69.48 000 55.15
>>
>> *mailto:w...@fiftyeight.com 
>> http://www.fiftyeight.com
>> *
>>
>>  
>> ESC*58*
>> Eine Kooperation der escape GmbH und der FIFTYEIGHT3D GmbH
>>
>> *http://www.ESC58.de
>> *
>>  **
>>
>
>
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