Re: Friday Flashback #265

[Chris Marshall]

Cool Stuff


On 27 May 2016 at 16:57, Pierre Schiller <activemotionpictu...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Picture #15 looks like Alienware logo. Deng, were we even that far ahead
> in the fure back then?
>
> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 8:25 PM, Matt Lind <speye...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I updated my facebook page with some new photos of stuff I still have such
>> as the XSI 1.0 installation CDs.
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/h7ccbkk
>>
>>
>>
>> Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 09:17:59 +0000
>> From: Brent McPherson <brent.mcpher...@autodesk.com>
>> Subject: RE: Friday Flashback #265
>> To: "softimage@listproc.autodesk.com"
>>
>>
>> This thread reminded me of Mark Schoennagel's SIGGRAPH 2006 SI3D demo.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzj3VITdN5A
>>
>> As someone who worked on Maya, moved to Softimage and is now back on Maya
>> I
>> have one piece of advice:
>>
>> Treasure your nostalgia because, in my experience, reality doesn't always
>> live up to our memories of the past!  :-P
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Re: Friday Flashback #265

[Pierre Schiller]

Picture #15 looks like Alienware logo. Deng, were we even that far ahead in
the fure back then?

On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 8:25 PM, Matt Lind <speye...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I updated my facebook page with some new photos of stuff I still have such
> as the XSI 1.0 installation CDs.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/h7ccbkk
>
>
>
> Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 09:17:59 +
> From: Brent McPherson <brent.mcpher...@autodesk.com>
> Subject: RE: Friday Flashback #265
> To: "softimage@listproc.autodesk.com"
>
>
> This thread reminded me of Mark Schoennagel's SIGGRAPH 2006 SI3D demo.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzj3VITdN5A
>
> As someone who worked on Maya, moved to Softimage and is now back on Maya I
> have one piece of advice:
>
> Treasure your nostalgia because, in my experience, reality doesn't always
> live up to our memories of the past!  :-P
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Re: Friday Flashback #265

[Matt Lind]

I updated my facebook page with some new photos of stuff I still have such 
as the XSI 1.0 installation CDs.

http://tinyurl.com/h7ccbkk



Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 09:17:59 +
From: Brent McPherson <brent.mcpher...@autodesk.com>
Subject: RE: Friday Flashback #265
To: "softimage@listproc.autodesk.com"


This thread reminded me of Mark Schoennagel's SIGGRAPH 2006 SI3D demo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzj3VITdN5A

As someone who worked on Maya, moved to Softimage and is now back on Maya I 
have one piece of advice:

Treasure your nostalgia because, in my experience, reality doesn't always 
live up to our memories of the past!  :-P
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RE: Friday Flashback #265

[Brent McPherson]

This thread reminded me of Mark Schoennagel's SIGGRAPH 2006 SI3D demo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzj3VITdN5A

As someone who worked on Maya, moved to Softimage and is now back on Maya I 
have one piece of advice:

Treasure your nostalgia because, in my experience, reality doesn't always live 
up to our memories of the past!  :-P
--
Brent

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[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Sven Constable
Sent: 24 May 2016 22:09
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: RE: Friday Flashback #265

Yes, the batteries won't make it over the decades. However, I turned on one of 
the indigos 2 or 3 years ago,  it came to life with the typical startup sound 
and it made me chuckle. Doing a demo video on that thing came to my mind, when 
we had a discussion on the list about doing a asteroid field the old fashioned 
way, without ICE.
I think the hard part would be to demo something that is actually ten times 
faster than in a current maya version. SI3D had some freakin fast workflows but 
it would be challenging, doing it on a workstation from the mid 90s. Maybe it 
will only two times as fast as in maya or max nowadays ;). Hell, even doing it 
in the same time would be hilarious. Any ideas whats typically a PITA in maya 
or max that would be a no brainer in SI3D?
Remember we had no passes/partition system in SI3D.
I would stay away from NURBS stuff because it's too oldschool.
The scene switcher? Not far away from 3ds max' scene states, except of beeing 
invented 15 years earlier.
How about multiped?
Or realtime rope dynamics with IK chains? Yummy!
The spread sheet. Selecting things in a most sophisticated way one can possibly 
imagine.
Maybe just basic parenting things (hierarchies) and  animation stuff for day to 
day work. That's where Softimage always shines.
Oh wait, I forgot the 'kaboom" effect!

sven

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 [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Olivier Jeannel
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 12:19 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>
Subject: Re: Friday Flashback #265

That Softimage demo on indigo would be super classy !
I worked on an indigo2 and an O2 with SI 3.7 and 3.8 installed then we switched 
on that dual 300Mhz Pc monster !

On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 10:13 AM, Matt Lind 
<speye...@hotmail.com<mailto:speye...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
If you want my stuff, you'll have to come to my Siggraph dinner to get it.
Remember - it's the last one.  Make it count ;-)

A few of my college friends had Indigos and in all cases the lithium battery
on the motherboard eventually died.  Can't run the computer without that.
In those cases, the battery was the old style soldered to the motherboard,
not the clip-in type you get today or in your wristwatch.  Good luck finding
a replacement if (when) that happens to you.

Matt



Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 23:21:27 +0200
From: "Sven Constable" 
<sixsi_l...@imagefront.de<mailto:sixsi_l...@imagefront.de>>
Subject: RE: Friday Flashback #265

Well, I think it's ok if only used by one person. : )
Btw. if you're gonna sell this stuff one day I would be interested. The
Soft|3D printed manuals for example. They were great.
I still have two SGI Indigo workstations and at least one of them still has
Soft|3D installed... maybe I should do a demo video firing up Soft|3D on
that ancient beast, doing some stuff in a minute that needs ten times more
in an actual maya version. Maybe hard to achive but not impossible. Would be
fun and a real kicking friday flashback, haha.

sven
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RE: Friday Flashback #265

[Sven Constable]

Yes, the batteries won't make it over the decades. However, I turned on one of 
the indigos 2 or 3 years ago,  it came to life with the typical startup sound 
and it made me chuckle. Doing a demo video on that thing came to my mind, when 
we had a discussion on the list about doing a asteroid field the old fashioned 
way, without ICE.

I think the hard part would be to demo something that is actually ten times 
faster than in a current maya version. SI3D had some freakin fast workflows but 
it would be challenging, doing it on a workstation from the mid 90s. Maybe it 
will only two times as fast as in maya or max nowadays ;). Hell, even doing it 
in the same time would be hilarious. Any ideas whats typically a PITA in maya 
or max that would be a no brainer in SI3D?

Remember we had no passes/partition system in SI3D.

I would stay away from NURBS stuff because it's too oldschool.

The scene switcher? Not far away from 3ds max' scene states, except of beeing 
invented 15 years earlier.

How about multiped?

Or realtime rope dynamics with IK chains? Yummy!

The spread sheet. Selecting things in a most sophisticated way one can possibly 
imagine.
Maybe just basic parenting things (hierarchies) and  animation stuff for day to 
day work. That's where Softimage always shines.

Oh wait, I forgot the 'kaboom" effect!

 

sven 

 

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softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [ 
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mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Olivier Jeannel
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 12:19 PM
To:  <mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com> softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Friday Flashback #265

 

That Softimage demo on indigo would be super classy ! 

I worked on an indigo2 and an O2 with SI 3.7 and 3.8 installed then we switched 
on that dual 300Mhz Pc monster !

 

On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 10:13 AM, Matt Lind <speye...@hotmail.com> wrote:

If you want my stuff, you'll have to come to my Siggraph dinner to get it.
Remember - it's the last one.  Make it count ;-)

A few of my college friends had Indigos and in all cases the lithium battery
on the motherboard eventually died.  Can't run the computer without that.
In those cases, the battery was the old style soldered to the motherboard,
not the clip-in type you get today or in your wristwatch.  Good luck finding
a replacement if (when) that happens to you.

Matt



Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 23:21:27 +0200
From: "Sven Constable" <sixsi_l...@imagefront.de>
Subject: RE: Friday Flashback #265

Well, I think it's ok if only used by one person. : )
Btw. if you're gonna sell this stuff one day I would be interested. The
Soft|3D printed manuals for example. They were great.
I still have two SGI Indigo workstations and at least one of them still has
Soft|3D installed... maybe I should do a demo video firing up Soft|3D on
that ancient beast, doing some stuff in a minute that needs ten times more
in an actual maya version. Maybe hard to achive but not impossible. Would be
fun and a real kicking friday flashback, haha.

sven

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Re: Friday Flashback #265

[Morten Bartholdy]

That is the first version I used on a job, skipping v.1.0 alltogether and 
started transitioning from Softimage 3D to XSI 1.4 if I remember correctly. 
Good times.

//Morten



> Den 20. maj 2016 klokken 21:09 skrev Stephen Blair :
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> 
> Softimage XSI 2.0 Experience CD from 2002
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Re: Friday Flashback #265

[Pierre Schiller]

The thing it impacted me the most was the quick stretch operator and the
way the disc (cd) was constructed. This set the basis for all my
interactive cds. I still got those. People do buy these things? What price?
:)
On May 21, 2016 5:19 AM, "Olivier Jeannel" <facialdel...@gmail.com> wrote:

> That Softimage demo on indigo would be super classy !
> I worked on an indigo2 and an O2 with SI 3.7 and 3.8 installed then we
> switched on that dual 300Mhz Pc monster !
>
> On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 10:13 AM, Matt Lind <speye...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> If you want my stuff, you'll have to come to my Siggraph dinner to get it.
>> Remember - it's the last one.  Make it count ;-)
>>
>> A few of my college friends had Indigos and in all cases the lithium
>> battery
>> on the motherboard eventually died.  Can't run the computer without that.
>> In those cases, the battery was the old style soldered to the motherboard,
>> not the clip-in type you get today or in your wristwatch.  Good luck
>> finding
>> a replacement if (when) that happens to you.
>>
>> Matt
>>
>>
>>
>> Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 23:21:27 +0200
>> From: "Sven Constable" <sixsi_l...@imagefront.de>
>> Subject: RE: Friday Flashback #265
>>
>> Well, I think it's ok if only used by one person. : )
>> Btw. if you're gonna sell this stuff one day I would be interested. The
>> Soft|3D printed manuals for example. They were great.
>> I still have two SGI Indigo workstations and at least one of them still
>> has
>> Soft|3D installed... maybe I should do a demo video firing up Soft|3D on
>> that ancient beast, doing some stuff in a minute that needs ten times more
>> in an actual maya version. Maybe hard to achive but not impossible. Would
>> be
>> fun and a real kicking friday flashback, haha.
>>
>> sven
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Re: Friday Flashback #265

[Olivier Jeannel]

That Softimage demo on indigo would be super classy !
I worked on an indigo2 and an O2 with SI 3.7 and 3.8 installed then we
switched on that dual 300Mhz Pc monster !

On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 10:13 AM, Matt Lind <speye...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> If you want my stuff, you'll have to come to my Siggraph dinner to get it.
> Remember - it's the last one.  Make it count ;-)
>
> A few of my college friends had Indigos and in all cases the lithium
> battery
> on the motherboard eventually died.  Can't run the computer without that.
> In those cases, the battery was the old style soldered to the motherboard,
> not the clip-in type you get today or in your wristwatch.  Good luck
> finding
> a replacement if (when) that happens to you.
>
> Matt
>
>
>
> Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 23:21:27 +0200
> From: "Sven Constable" <sixsi_l...@imagefront.de>
> Subject: RE: Friday Flashback #265
>
> Well, I think it's ok if only used by one person. : )
> Btw. if you're gonna sell this stuff one day I would be interested. The
> Soft|3D printed manuals for example. They were great.
> I still have two SGI Indigo workstations and at least one of them still has
> Soft|3D installed... maybe I should do a demo video firing up Soft|3D on
> that ancient beast, doing some stuff in a minute that needs ten times more
> in an actual maya version. Maybe hard to achive but not impossible. Would
> be
> fun and a real kicking friday flashback, haha.
>
> sven
>
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RE: Friday Flashback #265

[Matt Lind]

If you want my stuff, you'll have to come to my Siggraph dinner to get it. 
Remember - it's the last one.  Make it count ;-)

A few of my college friends had Indigos and in all cases the lithium battery 
on the motherboard eventually died.  Can't run the computer without that. 
In those cases, the battery was the old style soldered to the motherboard, 
not the clip-in type you get today or in your wristwatch.  Good luck finding 
a replacement if (when) that happens to you.

Matt



Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 23:21:27 +0200
From: "Sven Constable" <sixsi_l...@imagefront.de>
Subject: RE: Friday Flashback #265

Well, I think it's ok if only used by one person. : )
Btw. if you're gonna sell this stuff one day I would be interested. The
Soft|3D printed manuals for example. They were great.
I still have two SGI Indigo workstations and at least one of them still has
Soft|3D installed... maybe I should do a demo video firing up Soft|3D on
that ancient beast, doing some stuff in a minute that needs ten times more
in an actual maya version. Maybe hard to achive but not impossible. Would be
fun and a real kicking friday flashback, haha.

sven

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RE: Friday Flashback #265

[Sven Constable]

Well, I think it's ok if only used by one person. : )
Btw. if you're gonna sell this stuff one day I would be interested. The
Soft|3D printed manuals for example. They were great.
I still have two SGI Indigo workstations and at least one of them still has
Soft|3D installed... maybe I should do a demo video firing up Soft|3D on
that ancient beast, doing some stuff in a minute that needs ten times more
in an actual maya version. Maybe hard to achive but not impossible. Would be
fun and a real kicking friday flashback, haha.

sven 


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[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Matt Lind
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 10:46 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Friday Flashback #265

It's not a flashback if they're still in use ;-)

Matt


Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 22:31:14 +0200
From: "Sven Constable" <sixsi_l...@imagefront.de>
Subject: RE: Friday Flashback #265


Then take a picture of it, Matt. For the a next friday flashback :) sven

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Re: Friday Flashback #265

[Matt Lind]

It's not a flashback if they're still in use ;-)

Matt


Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 22:31:14 +0200
From: "Sven Constable" <sixsi_l...@imagefront.de>
Subject: RE: Friday Flashback #265


Then take a picture of it, Matt. For the a next friday flashback :)
sven

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RE: Friday Flashback #265

[Sven Constable]

Then take a picture of it, Matt. For the a next friday flashback :)
sven

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[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Matt Lind
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 10:05 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Friday Flashback #265

I still have that CD (although a bit worn from handling over the years). 
Sits with my XSI 1.0 CDs which are still in use (because of the SI|3D
license).

Matt



Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 15:09:54 -0400
From: Stephen Blair <stephenrbl...@gmail.com>
Subject: Friday Flashback #265
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com

Softimage XSI 2.0 Experience CD from 2002 http://wp.me/powV4-3jO 

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Re: Friday Flashback #265

[Matt Lind]

I still have that CD (although a bit worn from handling over the years). 
Sits with my XSI 1.0 CDs which are still in use (because of the SI|3D 
license).

Matt



Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 15:09:54 -0400
From: Stephen Blair <stephenrbl...@gmail.com>
Subject: Friday Flashback #265
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com

Softimage XSI 2.0 Experience CD from 2002
http://wp.me/powV4-3jO 

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Friday Flashback #265

[Stephen Blair]

Softimage XSI 2.0 Experience CD from 2002
http://wp.me/powV4-3jO
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Re: Friday Flashback #265

[Olivier Jeannel]

" I was already doing 3D animation as a hobby on my Amiga."
...Can't be a bad guy.

Me, I'm still recovering from the end of Commodore :/

On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 11:20 AM, Morten Bartholdy 
wrote:

> Agree :)
>
> Morten
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> > Den 4. marts 2016 klokken 20:45 skrev Steven Caron :
> >
> >
> > Still is one of the best!
> >
> > *written with my thumbs
> > On Mar 4, 2016 8:51 AM, "Stephen Blair"  wrote:
> >
> > > xsibase 2004 interview with cg supe at Buzz Image
> > > http://wp.me/powV4-3ih
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> > > *What is your favorite XSI feature?*
> > > *The one feature that I love the most is the Passes.*
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Re: Friday Flashback #265

[Morten Bartholdy]

Agree :)

Morten



> Den 4. marts 2016 klokken 20:45 skrev Steven Caron :
> 
> 
> Still is one of the best!
> 
> *written with my thumbs
> On Mar 4, 2016 8:51 AM, "Stephen Blair"  wrote:
> 
> > xsibase 2004 interview with cg supe at Buzz Image
> > http://wp.me/powV4-3ih
> >
> > *What is your favorite XSI feature?*
> > *The one feature that I love the most is the Passes.*
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Re: Friday Flashback #265

[Rob Wuijster]

And look... 10 years later it's still the best implementation of all 3D 
apps.


The future is bright. :-|


Rob

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On 4-3-2016 17:50, Stephen Blair wrote:

xsibase 2004 interview with cg supe at Buzz Image
http://wp.me/powV4-3ih

/What is your favorite XSI feature?/
/The one feature that I love the most is *the Passes*./


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Re: Friday Flashback #265

[Steven Caron]

Still is one of the best!

*written with my thumbs
On Mar 4, 2016 8:51 AM, "Stephen Blair"  wrote:

> xsibase 2004 interview with cg supe at Buzz Image
> http://wp.me/powV4-3ih
>
> *What is your favorite XSI feature?*
> *The one feature that I love the most is the Passes.*
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Friday Flashback #265

[Stephen Blair]

xsibase 2004 interview with cg supe at Buzz Image
http://wp.me/powV4-3ih

*What is your favorite XSI feature?*
*The one feature that I love the most is the Passes.*
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