ICE Topo Clone from group of objects onto Particles?
Trying to clone a group of meshes and place them at particle positions from a cloud using ICE Topo. Is there a way to get any of the built in compounds to do this? Not seeing any compounds or sample scenes doing this. So to review I have 5 meshes in a group and a particle cloud. I want to randomly get a mesh out of the group and stick it where a particle is. Eric Thivierge http://www.ethivierge.com
Re: ICE Topo Clone from group of objects onto Particles?
Hey Eric, There's an example in the Docs for just that scenario. http://download.autodesk.com/global/docs/softimage2013/en_us/userguide/index.html?url=files/ipart_instances_UsingGroupsofMasterObjects.htm,topicNumber=d30e291285 On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 6:03 PM, Eric Thivierge wrote: > Trying to clone a group of meshes and place them at particle positions > from a cloud using ICE Topo. Is there a way to get any of the built in > compounds to do this? Not seeing any compounds or sample scenes doing this. > > So to review I have 5 meshes in a group and a particle cloud. I want to > randomly get a mesh out of the group and stick it where a particle is. > > > Eric Thivierge > http://www.ethivierge.com >
Re: ICE Topo Clone from group of objects onto Particles?
Thanks but I need it as actual geometry using ice topology On Mar 28, 2013 6:09 PM, "Daryl Dunlap" wrote: > Hey Eric, > > There's an example in the Docs for just that scenario. > > > http://download.autodesk.com/global/docs/softimage2013/en_us/userguide/index.html?url=files/ipart_instances_UsingGroupsofMasterObjects.htm,topicNumber=d30e291285 > > > On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 6:03 PM, Eric Thivierge wrote: > >> Trying to clone a group of meshes and place them at particle positions >> from a cloud using ICE Topo. Is there a way to get any of the built in >> compounds to do this? Not seeing any compounds or sample scenes doing this. >> >> So to review I have 5 meshes in a group and a particle cloud. I want to >> randomly get a mesh out of the group and stick it where a particle is. >> >> >> Eric Thivierge >> http://www.ethivierge.com >> > >
RE: ICE Topo Clone from group of objects onto Particles?
Do these compounds help? I've posted before but for some reason the attachments don't seem to make it into the archives. They were designed to copy particle instances to real topology, but obviously you don't actually need instances but just an integer for the object index in the group. Usage notes: To use, put Convert Instances to Mesh in an ICE tree on an empty mesh. It works only with the "self" object. You also need to store the shape index on the point cloud and reference it in the compound's ppg. To transfer attributes, attach one of the Transfer compounds to the Execute port - there's one for each component type. If you transfer the MaterialIDs, then you can use the Copy Materials checkbox. This works only if all objects in the group have identical Materials arrays. The transfer is based on finding locations on the group geometry, so it's best to move the instance masters apart if they overlap. It uses the 2013 version of Build Array from Set which supports topology-type attributes. To use it with Softimage v2012, you'll need to replace it with Build Array from Per Point Data. gray From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Eric Thivierge Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 06:30 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: ICE Topo Clone from group of objects onto Particles? Thanks but I need it as actual geometry using ice topology On Mar 28, 2013 6:09 PM, "Daryl Dunlap" mailto:twinsnakes...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hey Eric, There's an example in the Docs for just that scenario. http://download.autodesk.com/global/docs/softimage2013/en_us/userguide/index.html?url=files/ipart_instances_UsingGroupsofMasterObjects.htm,topicNumber=d30e291285 On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 6:03 PM, Eric Thivierge mailto:ethivie...@gmail.com>> wrote: Trying to clone a group of meshes and place them at particle positions from a cloud using ICE Topo. Is there a way to get any of the built in compounds to do this? Not seeing any compounds or sample scenes doing this. So to review I have 5 meshes in a group and a particle cloud. I want to randomly get a mesh out of the group and stick it where a particle is. Eric Thivierge http://www.ethivierge.com <>
Re: ICE Topo Clone from group of objects onto Particles?
I'll give it a whirl Graham thanks. Eric Thivierge http://www.ethivierge.com On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 6:46 PM, Grahame Fuller wrote: > Do these compounds help? I've posted before but for some reason the > attachments don't seem to make it into the archives. > > They were designed to copy particle instances to real topology, but > obviously you don't actually need instances but just an integer for the > object index in the group. > > Usage notes: > > To use, put Convert Instances to Mesh in an ICE tree on an empty mesh. It > works only with the "self" object. You also need to store the shape index > on the point cloud and reference it in the compound's ppg. To transfer > attributes, attach one of the Transfer compounds to the Execute port - > there's one for each component type. > > If you transfer the MaterialIDs, then you can use the Copy Materials > checkbox. This works only if all objects in the group have identical > Materials arrays. > > The transfer is based on finding locations on the group geometry, so it's > best to move the instance masters apart if they overlap. > > It uses the 2013 version of Build Array from Set which supports > topology-type attributes. To use it with Softimage v2012, you'll need to > replace it with Build Array from Per Point Data. > > gray > > From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: > softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Eric Thivierge > Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 06:30 PM > To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com > Subject: Re: ICE Topo Clone from group of objects onto Particles? > > > Thanks but I need it as actual geometry using ice topology > On Mar 28, 2013 6:09 PM, "Daryl Dunlap" twinsnakes...@gmail.com>> wrote: > Hey Eric, > > There's an example in the Docs for just that scenario. > > > http://download.autodesk.com/global/docs/softimage2013/en_us/userguide/index.html?url=files/ipart_instances_UsingGroupsofMasterObjects.htm,topicNumber=d30e291285 > > On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 6:03 PM, Eric Thivierge <mailto:ethivie...@gmail.com>> wrote: > Trying to clone a group of meshes and place them at particle positions > from a cloud using ICE Topo. Is there a way to get any of the built in > compounds to do this? Not seeing any compounds or sample scenes doing this. > > So to review I have 5 meshes in a group and a particle cloud. I want to > randomly get a mesh out of the group and stick it where a particle is. > > > Eric Thivierge > http://www.ethivierge.com > >
Re: ICE Topo Clone from group of objects onto Particles?
Vincent that Particles_To_Geo seems like it's what I'm looking for! Thanks! Eric Thivierge http://www.ethivierge.com On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 8:40 PM, Vincent Ullmann < vincent.ullm...@googlemail.com> wrote: > Cant see any Compounds ;-/ > > here is a Solution i tried some time ago > > Am 29.03.2013 01:22, schrieb Eric Thivierge: > > I'll give it a whirl Graham thanks. > > > Eric Thivierge > http://www.ethivierge.com > > > On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 6:46 PM, Grahame Fuller < > grahame.ful...@autodesk.com> wrote: > >> Do these compounds help? I've posted before but for some reason the >> attachments don't seem to make it into the archives. >> >> They were designed to copy particle instances to real topology, but >> obviously you don't actually need instances but just an integer for the >> object index in the group. >> >> Usage notes: >> >> To use, put Convert Instances to Mesh in an ICE tree on an empty mesh. It >> works only with the "self" object. You also need to store the shape index >> on the point cloud and reference it in the compound's ppg. To transfer >> attributes, attach one of the Transfer compounds to the Execute port - >> there's one for each component type. >> >> If you transfer the MaterialIDs, then you can use the Copy Materials >> checkbox. This works only if all objects in the group have identical >> Materials arrays. >> >> The transfer is based on finding locations on the group geometry, so it's >> best to move the instance masters apart if they overlap. >> >> It uses the 2013 version of Build Array from Set which supports >> topology-type attributes. To use it with Softimage v2012, you'll need to >> replace it with Build Array from Per Point Data. >> >> gray >> >> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: >> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Eric Thivierge >> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 06:30 PM >> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com >> Subject: Re: ICE Topo Clone from group of objects onto Particles? >> >> >> Thanks but I need it as actual geometry using ice topology >> On Mar 28, 2013 6:09 PM, "Daryl Dunlap" > twinsnakes...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> Hey Eric, >> >> There's an example in the Docs for just that scenario. >> >> >> http://download.autodesk.com/global/docs/softimage2013/en_us/userguide/index.html?url=files/ipart_instances_UsingGroupsofMasterObjects.htm,topicNumber=d30e291285 >> >> On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 6:03 PM, Eric Thivierge > <mailto:ethivie...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> Trying to clone a group of meshes and place them at particle positions >> from a cloud using ICE Topo. Is there a way to get any of the built in >> compounds to do this? Not seeing any compounds or sample scenes doing this. >> >> So to review I have 5 meshes in a group and a particle cloud. I want to >> randomly get a mesh out of the group and stick it where a particle is. >> >> >> Eric Thivierge >> http://www.ethivierge.com >> >> > >
Re: ICE Topo Clone from group of objects onto Particles?
You can make arrays of geometries and find inside them?? Nice! Great tip. On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 8:40 PM, Vincent Ullmann < vincent.ullm...@googlemail.com> wrote: > Cant see any Compounds ;-/ > > here is a Solution i tried some time ago > > Am 29.03.2013 01:22, schrieb Eric Thivierge: > > I'll give it a whirl Graham thanks. > > > Eric Thivierge > http://www.ethivierge.com > > > On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 6:46 PM, Grahame Fuller < > grahame.ful...@autodesk.com> wrote: > >> Do these compounds help? I've posted before but for some reason the >> attachments don't seem to make it into the archives. >> >> They were designed to copy particle instances to real topology, but >> obviously you don't actually need instances but just an integer for the >> object index in the group. >> >> Usage notes: >> >> To use, put Convert Instances to Mesh in an ICE tree on an empty mesh. It >> works only with the "self" object. You also need to store the shape index >> on the point cloud and reference it in the compound's ppg. To transfer >> attributes, attach one of the Transfer compounds to the Execute port - >> there's one for each component type. >> >> If you transfer the MaterialIDs, then you can use the Copy Materials >> checkbox. This works only if all objects in the group have identical >> Materials arrays. >> >> The transfer is based on finding locations on the group geometry, so it's >> best to move the instance masters apart if they overlap. >> >> It uses the 2013 version of Build Array from Set which supports >> topology-type attributes. To use it with Softimage v2012, you'll need to >> replace it with Build Array from Per Point Data. >> >> gray >> >> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: >> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Eric Thivierge >> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 06:30 PM >> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com >> Subject: Re: ICE Topo Clone from group of objects onto Particles? >> >> >> Thanks but I need it as actual geometry using ice topology >> On Mar 28, 2013 6:09 PM, "Daryl Dunlap" > twinsnakes...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> Hey Eric, >> >> There's an example in the Docs for just that scenario. >> >> >> http://download.autodesk.com/global/docs/softimage2013/en_us/userguide/index.html?url=files/ipart_instances_UsingGroupsofMasterObjects.htm,topicNumber=d30e291285 >> >> On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 6:03 PM, Eric Thivierge > <mailto:ethivie...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> Trying to clone a group of meshes and place them at particle positions >> from a cloud using ICE Topo. Is there a way to get any of the built in >> compounds to do this? Not seeing any compounds or sample scenes doing this. >> >> So to review I have 5 meshes in a group and a particle cloud. I want to >> randomly get a mesh out of the group and stick it where a particle is. >> >> >> Eric Thivierge >> http://www.ethivierge.com >> >> > >
Re: ICE Topo Clone from group of objects onto Particles?
Hi Gray I don't see any attachments. This happened last time you posted a screenshot too. I couldn't find the attachments On 28/03/2013 6:46 PM, Grahame Fuller wrote: Do these compounds help? I've posted before but for some reason the attachments don't seem to make it into the archives. They were designed to copy particle instances to real topology, but obviously you don't actually need instances but just an integer for the object index in the group. Usage notes: To use, put Convert Instances to Mesh in an ICE tree on an empty mesh. It works only with the "self" object. You also need to store the shape index on the point cloud and reference it in the compound's ppg. To transfer attributes, attach one of the Transfer compounds to the Execute port - there's one for each component type. If you transfer the MaterialIDs, then you can use the Copy Materials checkbox. This works only if all objects in the group have identical Materials arrays. The transfer is based on finding locations on the group geometry, so it's best to move the instance masters apart if they overlap. It uses the 2013 version of Build Array from Set which supports topology-type attributes. To use it with Softimage v2012, you'll need to replace it with Build Array from Per Point Data. gray From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Eric Thivierge Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 06:30 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: ICE Topo Clone from group of objects onto Particles? Thanks but I need it as actual geometry using ice topology On Mar 28, 2013 6:09 PM, "Daryl Dunlap" mailto:twinsnakes...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hey Eric, There's an example in the Docs for just that scenario. http://download.autodesk.com/global/docs/softimage2013/en_us/userguide/index.html?url=files/ipart_instances_UsingGroupsofMasterObjects.htm,topicNumber=d30e291285 On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 6:03 PM, Eric Thivierge mailto:ethivie...@gmail.com>> wrote: Trying to clone a group of meshes and place them at particle positions from a cloud using ICE Topo. Is there a way to get any of the built in compounds to do this? Not seeing any compounds or sample scenes doing this. So to review I have 5 meshes in a group and a particle cloud. I want to randomly get a mesh out of the group and stick it where a particle is. Eric Thivierge http://www.ethivierge.com
Re: ICE Topo Clone from group of objects onto Particles?
I can see them (Gmail) DAN On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 1:32 PM, Stephen Blair wrote: > Hi Gray > I don't see any attachments. > This happened last time you posted a screenshot too. I couldn't find the > attachments > > > > On 28/03/2013 6:46 PM, Grahame Fuller wrote: > >> Do these compounds help? I've posted before but for some reason the >> attachments don't seem to make it into the archives. >> >> They were designed to copy particle instances to real topology, but >> obviously you don't actually need instances but just an integer for the >> object index in the group. >> >> Usage notes: >> >> To use, put Convert Instances to Mesh in an ICE tree on an empty mesh. It >> works only with the "self" object. You also need to store the shape index >> on the point cloud and reference it in the compound's ppg. To transfer >> attributes, attach one of the Transfer compounds to the Execute port - >> there's one for each component type. >> >> If you transfer the MaterialIDs, then you can use the Copy Materials >> checkbox. This works only if all objects in the group have identical >> Materials arrays. >> >> The transfer is based on finding locations on the group geometry, so it's >> best to move the instance masters apart if they overlap. >> >> It uses the 2013 version of Build Array from Set which supports >> topology-type attributes. To use it with Softimage v2012, you'll need to >> replace it with Build Array from Per Point Data. >> >> gray >> >> From: >> softimage-bounces@listproc.**autodesk.com[mailto: >> softimage-bounces@**listproc.autodesk.com] >> On Behalf Of Eric Thivierge >> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 06:30 PM >> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.**com >> Subject: Re: ICE Topo Clone from group of objects onto Particles? >> >> >> Thanks but I need it as actual geometry using ice topology >> On Mar 28, 2013 6:09 PM, "Daryl Dunlap" > mailto:twinsnakes...@gmail.com**>> wrote: >> Hey Eric, >> >> There's an example in the Docs for just that scenario. >> >> http://download.autodesk.com/**global/docs/softimage2013/en_** >> us/userguide/index.html?url=**files/ipart_instances_** >> UsingGroupsofMasterObjects.**htm,topicNumber=d30e291285<http://download.autodesk.com/global/docs/softimage2013/en_us/userguide/index.html?url=files/ipart_instances_UsingGroupsofMasterObjects.htm,topicNumber=d30e291285> >> >> On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 6:03 PM, Eric Thivierge > <mailto:e**thivie...@gmail.com >> wrote: >> Trying to clone a group of meshes and place them at particle positions >> from a cloud using ICE Topo. Is there a way to get any of the built in >> compounds to do this? Not seeing any compounds or sample scenes doing this. >> >> So to review I have 5 meshes in a group and a particle cloud. I want to >> randomly get a mesh out of the group and stick it where a particle is. >> >> --**-- >> Eric Thivierge >> http://www.ethivierge.com >> >> >
Re: ICE Topo Clone from group of objects onto Particles?
I can see the attachment too! --- Ahmidou Lyazidi Director | TD | CG artist http://vimeo.com/ahmidou/videos 2013/3/29 Dan Yargici > I can see them (Gmail) > > DAN > > > On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 1:32 PM, Stephen Blair wrote: > >> Hi Gray >> I don't see any attachments. >> This happened last time you posted a screenshot too. I couldn't find the >> attachments >> >> >> >> On 28/03/2013 6:46 PM, Grahame Fuller wrote: >> >>> Do these compounds help? I've posted before but for some reason the >>> attachments don't seem to make it into the archives. >>> >>> They were designed to copy particle instances to real topology, but >>> obviously you don't actually need instances but just an integer for the >>> object index in the group. >>> >>> Usage notes: >>> >>> To use, put Convert Instances to Mesh in an ICE tree on an empty mesh. >>> It works only with the "self" object. You also need to store the shape >>> index on the point cloud and reference it in the compound's ppg. To >>> transfer attributes, attach one of the Transfer compounds to the Execute >>> port - there's one for each component type. >>> >>> If you transfer the MaterialIDs, then you can use the Copy Materials >>> checkbox. This works only if all objects in the group have identical >>> Materials arrays. >>> >>> The transfer is based on finding locations on the group geometry, so >>> it's best to move the instance masters apart if they overlap. >>> >>> It uses the 2013 version of Build Array from Set which supports >>> topology-type attributes. To use it with Softimage v2012, you'll need to >>> replace it with Build Array from Per Point Data. >>> >>> gray >>> >>> From: >>> softimage-bounces@listproc.**autodesk.com[mailto: >>> softimage-bounces@**listproc.autodesk.com] >>> On Behalf Of Eric Thivierge >>> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 06:30 PM >>> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.**com >>> Subject: Re: ICE Topo Clone from group of objects onto Particles? >>> >>> >>> Thanks but I need it as actual geometry using ice topology >>> On Mar 28, 2013 6:09 PM, "Daryl Dunlap" >> mailto:twinsnakes...@gmail.com**>> wrote: >>> Hey Eric, >>> >>> There's an example in the Docs for just that scenario. >>> >>> http://download.autodesk.com/**global/docs/softimage2013/en_** >>> us/userguide/index.html?url=**files/ipart_instances_** >>> UsingGroupsofMasterObjects.**htm,topicNumber=d30e291285<http://download.autodesk.com/global/docs/softimage2013/en_us/userguide/index.html?url=files/ipart_instances_UsingGroupsofMasterObjects.htm,topicNumber=d30e291285> >>> >>> On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 6:03 PM, Eric Thivierge >> <mailto:e**thivie...@gmail.com >> wrote: >>> Trying to clone a group of meshes and place them at particle positions >>> from a cloud using ICE Topo. Is there a way to get any of the built in >>> compounds to do this? Not seeing any compounds or sample scenes doing this. >>> >>> So to review I have 5 meshes in a group and a particle cloud. I want to >>> randomly get a mesh out of the group and stick it where a particle is. >>> >>> --**-- >>> Eric Thivierge >>> http://www.ethivierge.com >>> >>> >> >
Re: ICE Topo Clone from group of objects onto Particles?
In Thunderbird i cant see any attatchments, what is quite annoying...
becouse thats my usual email-checking tool.
Wenn i view the mails via mail.google.com i see these attatchments.
Am 29.03.2013 23:39, schrieb Ahmidou Lyazidi:
I can see the attachment too!
---
Ahmidou Lyazidi
Director | TD | CG artist
http://vimeo.com/ahmidou/videos
2013/3/29 Dan Yargici mailto:danyarg...@gmail.com>>
I can see them (Gmail)
DAN
On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 1:32 PM, Stephen Blair
mailto:stephenrbl...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Gray
I don't see any attachments.
This happened last time you posted a screenshot too. I
couldn't find the attachments
On 28/03/2013 6:46 PM, Grahame Fuller wrote:
Do these compounds help? I've posted before but for some
reason the attachments don't seem to make it into the
archives.
They were designed to copy particle instances to real
topology, but obviously you don't actually need instances
but just an integer for the object index in the group.
Usage notes:
To use, put Convert Instances to Mesh in an ICE tree on an
empty mesh. It works only with the "self" object. You also
need to store the shape index on the point cloud and
reference it in the compound's ppg. To transfer
attributes, attach one of the Transfer compounds to the
Execute port - there's one for each component type.
If you transfer the MaterialIDs, then you can use the Copy
Materials checkbox. This works only if all objects in the
group have identical Materials arrays.
The transfer is based on finding locations on the group
geometry, so it's best to move the instance masters apart
if they overlap.
It uses the 2013 version of Build Array from Set which
supports topology-type attributes. To use it with
Softimage v2012, you'll need to replace it with Build
Array from Per Point Data.
gray
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>] On
Behalf Of Eric Thivierge
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 06:30 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
<mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>
Subject: Re: ICE Topo Clone from group of objects onto
Particles?
Thanks but I need it as actual geometry using ice topology
On Mar 28, 2013 6:09 PM, "Daryl Dunlap"
mailto:twinsnakes...@gmail.com><mailto:twinsnakes...@gmail.com
<mailto:twinsnakes...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
Hey Eric,
There's an example in the Docs for just that scenario.
http://download.autodesk.com/global/docs/softimage2013/en_us/userguide/index.html?url=files/ipart_instances_UsingGroupsofMasterObjects.htm,topicNumber=d30e291285
On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 6:03 PM, Eric Thivierge
mailto:ethivie...@gmail.com><mailto:ethivie...@gmail.com
<mailto:ethivie...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
Trying to clone a group of meshes and place them at
particle positions from a cloud using ICE Topo. Is there a
way to get any of the built in compounds to do this? Not
seeing any compounds or sample scenes doing this.
So to review I have 5 meshes in a group and a particle
cloud. I want to randomly get a mesh out of the group and
stick it where a particle is.
Eric Thivierge
http://www.ethivierge.com
Re: ICE Topo Clone from group of objects onto Particles?
> How can i use CPU Fully? You can't :). When building one mesh, it is very hard to use all your CPU resources. ICE Array nodes (like Build Array from Set or Merge Topo Array) will use one CPU core most of the time (same for the classic merge mesh operator). Maybe there are some faster ways to do this instance to mesh conversion, but not by generating one final mesh. For example, for N instance shapes, we could generate N meshes. Those meshes would merge shapes using the same topology. Or we could generate one mesh from every particles. This is the perfect scenario for parallel computing :). Unfortunately we can't do such thing from ICE (generating new 3D objects) and creating tones of objects in the scene could slow down interaction a lot... For info, Creation Platform use the concept of slices per Nodes, where we you can abstract several similar operations into one single node. This is how geometries can be generated so quickly for apps like Flora, Stage or Horde. Such feature in ICE would help a lot ! When I was working on ICE Topology and CrowdFX, I asked several times for the possibility to "unlock the ICE context". For example, being able to do polygon mesh operations not per particle (it would be nice also) but per custom context. For the Instance to Mesh operation, you could create a custom context based on the number of instance shapes and ICE would process each "instance shape clusters" in parallel. I didn't have the skills to implement such feature on an little program like Softimage :), but it would be a nice (and big) feature for sure! Guillaume Laforge On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 1:27 AM, Byungchul Kang wrote: > Thanks Vincent! > Here.. modified Ice graph.. how about it? > but It is too slow why CPU usage around 15%. How can i use CPU Fully? > > > > 2013/3/30 Vincent Ullmann > >> In Thunderbird i cant see any attatchments, what is quite annoying... >> becouse thats my usual email-checking tool. >> Wenn i view the mails via mail.google.com i see these attatchments. >> >> >> Am 29.03.2013 23:39, schrieb Ahmidou Lyazidi: >> >> I can see the attachment too! >> >> --- >> Ahmidou Lyazidi >> Director | TD | CG artist >> http://vimeo.com/ahmidou/videos >> >> >> 2013/3/29 Dan Yargici >> >>> I can see them (Gmail) >>> >>> DAN >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 1:32 PM, Stephen Blair >> > wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Gray >>>> I don't see any attachments. >>>> This happened last time you posted a screenshot too. I couldn't find >>>> the attachments >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 28/03/2013 6:46 PM, Grahame Fuller wrote: >>>> >>>>> Do these compounds help? I've posted before but for some reason the >>>>> attachments don't seem to make it into the archives. >>>>> >>>>> They were designed to copy particle instances to real topology, but >>>>> obviously you don't actually need instances but just an integer for the >>>>> object index in the group. >>>>> >>>>> Usage notes: >>>>> >>>>> To use, put Convert Instances to Mesh in an ICE tree on an empty mesh. >>>>> It works only with the "self" object. You also need to store the shape >>>>> index on the point cloud and reference it in the compound's ppg. To >>>>> transfer attributes, attach one of the Transfer compounds to the Execute >>>>> port - there's one for each component type. >>>>> >>>>> If you transfer the MaterialIDs, then you can use the Copy Materials >>>>> checkbox. This works only if all objects in the group have identical >>>>> Materials arrays. >>>>> >>>>> The transfer is based on finding locations on the group geometry, so >>>>> it's best to move the instance masters apart if they overlap. >>>>> >>>>> It uses the 2013 version of Build Array from Set which supports >>>>> topology-type attributes. To use it with Softimage v2012, you'll need to >>>>> replace it with Build Array from Per Point Data. >>>>> >>>>> gray >>>>> >>>>> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: >>>>> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Eric Thivierge >>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 06:30 PM >>>>> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com >>>
RE: ICE Topo Clone from group of objects onto Particles?
For those who can't see the attachments (and everybody else for that matter), I've uploaded them to si-community: http://www.si-community.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=3588 gray From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Guillaume Laforge Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 09:49 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: ICE Topo Clone from group of objects onto Particles? > How can i use CPU Fully? You can't :). When building one mesh, it is very hard to use all your CPU resources. ICE Array nodes (like Build Array from Set or Merge Topo Array) will use one CPU core most of the time (same for the classic merge mesh operator). Maybe there are some faster ways to do this instance to mesh conversion, but not by generating one final mesh. For example, for N instance shapes, we could generate N meshes. Those meshes would merge shapes using the same topology. Or we could generate one mesh from every particles. This is the perfect scenario for parallel computing :). Unfortunately we can't do such thing from ICE (generating new 3D objects) and creating tones of objects in the scene could slow down interaction a lot... For info, Creation Platform use the concept of slices per Nodes, where we you can abstract several similar operations into one single node. This is how geometries can be generated so quickly for apps like Flora, Stage or Horde. Such feature in ICE would help a lot ! When I was working on ICE Topology and CrowdFX, I asked several times for the possibility to "unlock the ICE context". For example, being able to do polygon mesh operations not per particle (it would be nice also) but per custom context. For the Instance to Mesh operation, you could create a custom context based on the number of instance shapes and ICE would process each "instance shape clusters" in parallel. I didn't have the skills to implement such feature on an little program like Softimage :), but it would be a nice (and big) feature for sure! Guillaume Laforge On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 1:27 AM, Byungchul Kang mailto:k...@cgndev.com>> wrote: Thanks Vincent! Here.. modified Ice graph.. how about it? but It is too slow why CPU usage around 15%. How can i use CPU Fully? 2013/3/30 Vincent Ullmann mailto:vincent.ullm...@googlemail.com>> In Thunderbird i cant see any attatchments, what is quite annoying... becouse thats my usual email-checking tool. Wenn i view the mails via mail.google.com<http://mail.google.com> i see these attatchments. Am 29.03.2013 23:39, schrieb Ahmidou Lyazidi: I can see the attachment too! --- Ahmidou Lyazidi Director | TD | CG artist http://vimeo.com/ahmidou/videos 2013/3/29 Dan Yargici mailto:danyarg...@gmail.com>> I can see them (Gmail) DAN On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 1:32 PM, Stephen Blair mailto:stephenrbl...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi Gray I don't see any attachments. This happened last time you posted a screenshot too. I couldn't find the attachments On 28/03/2013 6:46 PM, Grahame Fuller wrote: Do these compounds help? I've posted before but for some reason the attachments don't seem to make it into the archives. They were designed to copy particle instances to real topology, but obviously you don't actually need instances but just an integer for the object index in the group. Usage notes: To use, put Convert Instances to Mesh in an ICE tree on an empty mesh. It works only with the "self" object. You also need to store the shape index on the point cloud and reference it in the compound's ppg. To transfer attributes, attach one of the Transfer compounds to the Execute port - there's one for each component type. If you transfer the MaterialIDs, then you can use the Copy Materials checkbox. This works only if all objects in the group have identical Materials arrays. The transfer is based on finding locations on the group geometry, so it's best to move the instance masters apart if they overlap. It uses the 2013 version of Build Array from Set which supports topology-type attributes. To use it with Softimage v2012, you'll need to replace it with Build Array from Per Point Data. gray From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>] On Behalf Of Eric Thivierge Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 06:30 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com> Subject: Re: ICE Topo Clone from group of objects onto Particles? Thanks but I need it as actual geometry using ice topology On Mar 28, 2013 6:09 PM, "Daryl Dunlap" mailto:twinsnakes...@gmail.com><mailto:twinsnakes...@gmail.com<mailto:twinsnakes...@gmail
RE: ICE Topo Clone from group of objects onto Particles?
P.S. @ Byungchul One thing you can do to speed it up a bit in your case is to transform the topologies before you build an array from the set. gray From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Grahame Fuller Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 12:25 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: RE: ICE Topo Clone from group of objects onto Particles? For those who can't see the attachments (and everybody else for that matter), I've uploaded them to si-community: http://www.si-community.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=3588 gray From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Guillaume Laforge Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 09:49 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com> Subject: Re: ICE Topo Clone from group of objects onto Particles? > How can i use CPU Fully? You can't :). When building one mesh, it is very hard to use all your CPU resources. ICE Array nodes (like Build Array from Set or Merge Topo Array) will use one CPU core most of the time (same for the classic merge mesh operator). Maybe there are some faster ways to do this instance to mesh conversion, but not by generating one final mesh. For example, for N instance shapes, we could generate N meshes. Those meshes would merge shapes using the same topology. Or we could generate one mesh from every particles. This is the perfect scenario for parallel computing :). Unfortunately we can't do such thing from ICE (generating new 3D objects) and creating tones of objects in the scene could slow down interaction a lot... For info, Creation Platform use the concept of slices per Nodes, where we you can abstract several similar operations into one single node. This is how geometries can be generated so quickly for apps like Flora, Stage or Horde. Such feature in ICE would help a lot ! When I was working on ICE Topology and CrowdFX, I asked several times for the possibility to "unlock the ICE context". For example, being able to do polygon mesh operations not per particle (it would be nice also) but per custom context. For the Instance to Mesh operation, you could create a custom context based on the number of instance shapes and ICE would process each "instance shape clusters" in parallel. I didn't have the skills to implement such feature on an little program like Softimage :), but it would be a nice (and big) feature for sure! Guillaume Laforge On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 1:27 AM, Byungchul Kang mailto:k...@cgndev.com>> wrote: Thanks Vincent! Here.. modified Ice graph.. how about it? but It is too slow why CPU usage around 15%. How can i use CPU Fully? 2013/3/30 Vincent Ullmann mailto:vincent.ullm...@googlemail.com>> In Thunderbird i cant see any attatchments, what is quite annoying... becouse thats my usual email-checking tool. Wenn i view the mails via mail.google.com<http://mail.google.com> i see these attatchments. Am 29.03.2013 23:39, schrieb Ahmidou Lyazidi: I can see the attachment too! --- Ahmidou Lyazidi Director | TD | CG artist http://vimeo.com/ahmidou/videos 2013/3/29 Dan Yargici mailto:danyarg...@gmail.com>> I can see them (Gmail) DAN On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 1:32 PM, Stephen Blair mailto:stephenrbl...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi Gray I don't see any attachments. This happened last time you posted a screenshot too. I couldn't find the attachments On 28/03/2013 6:46 PM, Grahame Fuller wrote: Do these compounds help? I've posted before but for some reason the attachments don't seem to make it into the archives. They were designed to copy particle instances to real topology, but obviously you don't actually need instances but just an integer for the object index in the group. Usage notes: To use, put Convert Instances to Mesh in an ICE tree on an empty mesh. It works only with the "self" object. You also need to store the shape index on the point cloud and reference it in the compound's ppg. To transfer attributes, attach one of the Transfer compounds to the Execute port - there's one for each component type. If you transfer the MaterialIDs, then you can use the Copy Materials checkbox. This works only if all objects in the group have identical Materials arrays. The transfer is based on finding locations on the group geometry, so it's best to move the instance masters apart if they overlap. It uses the 2013 version of Build Array from Set which supports topology-type attributes. To use it with Softimage v2012, you'll need to replace it with Build Array from Per Point Data. gray From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com> [mailto:softi
