Just a thought - I hear the framestore use an ancient version of maya......
just as a shell basically with their own customization and updating, so could one of the larger houses using soft not do the same thing? ... http://www.hackneyeffects.com/https://vimeo.com/user4174293http://www.linkedin.com/pub/andi-farhall/b/496/b21 http://www.flickr.com/photos/lord_hackney/ http://spylon.tumblr.com/ This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Hackney Effects Ltd.If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you must neither take any action based upon its contents, nor copy or show it to anyone.Please contact the sender if you believe you have received this email in error.
Re: Just a thought - I hear the framestore use an ancient version of maya......
Long term, that's roughly my thinking with using Fabric Engine for in house development. It puts that very idea within reach of smaller places. On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 10:06 AM, Andi Farhall hack...@outlook.com wrote: just as a shell basically with their own customization and updating, so could one of the larger houses using soft not do the same thing? ... http://www.hackneyeffects.com/ https://vimeo.com/user4174293 http://www.linkedin.com/pub/andi-farhall/b/496/b21 http://www.flickr.com/photos/lord_hackney/ http://spylon.tumblr.com/ This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Hackney Effects Ltd. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you must neither take any action based upon its contents, nor copy or show it to anyone. Please contact the sender if you believe you have received this email in error.
Re: Just a thought - I hear the framestore use an ancient version of maya......
What's the risk of Soft 2015 ceasing to work with future versions of operating systems and hardware? On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Jonah Friedman jon...@gmail.com wrote: Long term, that's roughly my thinking with using Fabric Engine for in house development. It puts that very idea within reach of smaller places. On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 10:06 AM, Andi Farhall hack...@outlook.com wrote: just as a shell basically with their own customization and updating, so could one of the larger houses using soft not do the same thing? ... http://www.hackneyeffects.com/ https://vimeo.com/user4174293 http://www.linkedin.com/pub/andi-farhall/b/496/b21 http://www.flickr.com/photos/lord_hackney/ http://spylon.tumblr.com/ This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Hackney Effects Ltd. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you must neither take any action based upon its contents, nor copy or show it to anyone. Please contact the sender if you believe you have received this email in error.
Re: Just a thought - I hear the framestore use an ancient version of maya......
there's a vast difference between building upon an old, supported architecture and a soon to be obsolete and desolate one. besides, are you really going to base your pipeline on the goodwill of AD ? -- Jon Swindells jon_swinde...@fastmail.fm On Fri, Mar 7, 2014, at 05:24 PM, Arvid Björn wrote: What's the risk of Soft 2015 ceasing to work with future versions of operating systems and hardware? On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Jonah Friedman [1]jon...@gmail.com wrote: Long term, that's roughly my thinking with using Fabric Engine for in house development. It puts that very idea within reach of smaller places. On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 10:06 AM, Andi Farhall [2]hack...@outlook.com wrote: just as a shell basically with their own customization and updating, so could one of the larger houses using soft not do the same thing? ... [3]http://www.hackneyeffects.com/ [4]https://vimeo.com/user4174293 [5]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/andi-farhall/b/496/b21 [6]http://www.flickr.com/photos/lord_hackney/ [7]http://spylon.tumblr.com/ This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Hackney Effects Ltd. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you must neither take any action based upon its contents, nor copy or show it to anyone. Please contact the sender if you believe you have received this email in error. References 1. mailto:jon...@gmail.com 2. mailto:hack...@outlook.com 3. http://www.hackneyeffects.com/ 4. https://vimeo.com/user4174293 5. http://www.linkedin.com/pub/andi-farhall/b/496/b21 6. http://www.flickr.com/photos/lord_hackney/ 7. http://spylon.tumblr.com/
Re: Just a thought - I hear the framestore use an ancient version of maya......
I'd say pretty likely after two or three versions of Windows. Not to mention when it happens you'll be stuck with whatever version and Microsoft doesn't support them anymore. It usually ceases support about ten years after each release, after which you no longer get security updates and if you're online you might as well have a hack me! sign stuck on your back. To put things in perspective, WinXP is ending support this April: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-ca/windows/lifecycle Here's a thought experiment for you: Imagine Soft had died years ago and XP was the only version it ran in and Win7/8 gave errors. :( Now imagine the latest cool helpful software, say the latest version of ZBrush, no longer ran in XP in the latest version (because who uses that, right?) Now you're gonna have to keep one OS for your Soft antiques and one for the modern stuff. That's not gonna be fun. Granted this won't happen for several years, but better learn new platforms now before you're dead in the water. On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Arvid Björn arvidbj...@gmail.com wrote: What's the risk of Soft 2015 ceasing to work with future versions of operating systems and hardware? On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Jonah Friedman jon...@gmail.com wrote: Long term, that's roughly my thinking with using Fabric Engine for in house development. It puts that very idea within reach of smaller places. On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 10:06 AM, Andi Farhall hack...@outlook.comwrote: just as a shell basically with their own customization and updating, so could one of the larger houses using soft not do the same thing? ... http://www.hackneyeffects.com/ https://vimeo.com/user4174293 http://www.linkedin.com/pub/andi-farhall/b/496/b21 http://www.flickr.com/photos/lord_hackney/ http://spylon.tumblr.com/ This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Hackney Effects Ltd. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you must neither take any action based upon its contents, nor copy or show it to anyone. Please contact the sender if you believe you have received this email in error.
Re: Just a thought - I hear the framestore use an ancient version of maya......
Oh and let's not even talk about modern Linux support... You need to sacrifice a chicken and chant some unholy spell to get Softimage working in Ubuntu. On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Alan Fregtman alan.fregt...@gmail.comwrote: I'd say pretty likely after two or three versions of Windows. Not to mention when it happens you'll be stuck with whatever version and Microsoft doesn't support them anymore. It usually ceases support about ten years after each release, after which you no longer get security updates and if you're online you might as well have a hack me! sign stuck on your back. To put things in perspective, WinXP is ending support this April: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-ca/windows/lifecycle Here's a thought experiment for you: Imagine Soft had died years ago and XP was the only version it ran in and Win7/8 gave errors. :( Now imagine the latest cool helpful software, say the latest version of ZBrush, no longer ran in XP in the latest version (because who uses that, right?) Now you're gonna have to keep one OS for your Soft antiques and one for the modern stuff. That's not gonna be fun. Granted this won't happen for several years, but better learn new platforms now before you're dead in the water. On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Arvid Björn arvidbj...@gmail.com wrote: What's the risk of Soft 2015 ceasing to work with future versions of operating systems and hardware? On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Jonah Friedman jon...@gmail.com wrote: Long term, that's roughly my thinking with using Fabric Engine for in house development. It puts that very idea within reach of smaller places. On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 10:06 AM, Andi Farhall hack...@outlook.comwrote: just as a shell basically with their own customization and updating, so could one of the larger houses using soft not do the same thing? ... http://www.hackneyeffects.com/ https://vimeo.com/user4174293 http://www.linkedin.com/pub/andi-farhall/b/496/b21 http://www.flickr.com/photos/lord_hackney/ http://spylon.tumblr.com/ This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Hackney Effects Ltd. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you must neither take any action based upon its contents, nor copy or show it to anyone. Please contact the sender if you believe you have received this email in error.
Re: Just a thought - I hear the framestore use an ancient version of maya......
running fine in mint16 (ubuntu 13.10 based i think), no sacrificial poultry needed. running unity by any chance ? -- Jon Swindells jon_swinde...@fastmail.fm On Fri, Mar 7, 2014, at 05:59 PM, Alan Fregtman wrote: Oh and let's not even talk about modern Linux support... You need to sacrifice a chicken and chant some unholy spell to get Softimage working in Ubuntu.
Re: Just a thought - I hear the framestore use an ancient version of maya......
That's a good point, though then years is quite a lot of time and should even allow the largest company with lots of backlog to transition gracefully to whatever is hot and sexy then. Meanwhile, how about using a virtual machine of XP in a more modern version of windows along with your other apps? Here's a thought experiment for you: Imagine Soft had died years ago and XP was the only version it ran in and Win7/8 gave errors. :( Now imagine the latest cool helpful software, say the latest version of ZBrush, no longer ran in XP in the latest version (because who uses that, right?) Now you're gonna have to keep one OS for your Soft antiques and one for the modern stuff. That's not gonna be fun. Granted this won't happen for several years, but better learn new platforms now before you're dead in the water. On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Arvid Björn arvidbj...@gmail.com wrote: What's the risk of Soft 2015 ceasing to work with future versions of operating systems and hardware? On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Jonah Friedman jon...@gmail.com wrote: Long term, that's roughly my thinking with using Fabric Engine for in house development. It puts that very idea within reach of smaller places. On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 10:06 AM, Andi Farhall hack...@outlook.comwrote: just as a shell basically with their own customization and updating, so could one of the larger houses using soft not do the same thing? ... http://www.hackneyeffects.com/ https://vimeo.com/user4174293 http://www.linkedin.com/pub/andi-farhall/b/496/b21 http://www.flickr.com/photos/lord_hackney/ http://spylon.tumblr.com/ This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Hackney Effects Ltd. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you must neither take any action based upon its contents, nor copy or show it to anyone. Please contact the sender if you believe you have received this email in error. -- - Stefan Kubicek ste...@keyvis.at - keyvis digital imagery Alfred Feierfeilstraße 3 A-2380 Perchtoldsdorf bei Wien Phone: +43 (0) 699 12614231 www.keyvis.at -- This email and its attachments are-- -- confidential and for the recipient only --
Re: Just a thought - I hear the framestore use an ancient version of maya......
it's the mainwin/linux side of things that I worry about. On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Alan Fregtman alan.fregt...@gmail.com wrote: I'd say pretty likely after two or three versions of Windows. Not to mention when it happens you'll be stuck with whatever version and Microsoft doesn't support them anymore. It usually ceases support about ten years after each release, after which you no longer get security updates and if you're online you might as well have a hack me! sign stuck on your back. To put things in perspective, WinXP is ending support this April: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-ca/windows/lifecycle Here's a thought experiment for you: Imagine Soft had died years ago and XP was the only version it ran in and Win7/8 gave errors. :( Now imagine the latest cool helpful software, say the latest version of ZBrush, no longer ran in XP in the latest version (because who uses that, right?) Now you're gonna have to keep one OS for your Soft antiques and one for the modern stuff. That's not gonna be fun. Granted this won't happen for several years, but better learn new platforms now before you're dead in the water.
Re: Just a thought - I hear the framestore use an ancient version of maya......
Equally fine on centos 6.5 under kde (or gnome). Original message From: Jon Swindells jon_swinde...@fastmail.fm Date:03/07/2014 11:03 AM (GMT-05:00) To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Just a thought - I hear the framestore use an ancient version of maya.. running fine in mint16 (ubuntu 13.10 based i think), no sacrificial poultry needed. running unity by any chance ? -- Jon Swindells jon_swinde...@fastmail.fm On Fri, Mar 7, 2014, at 05:59 PM, Alan Fregtman wrote: Oh and let's not even talk about modern Linux support... You need to sacrifice a chicken and chant some unholy spell to get Softimage working in Ubuntu.
Re: Just a thought - I hear the framestore use an ancient version of maya......
I'd say you're safe within 3+ versions of windows, ran SI3D on Win7 some time ago, booted in a second lol. On 03/07/14 10:24, Arvid Björn wrote: What's the risk of Soft 2015 ceasing to work with future versions of operating systems and hardware? On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Jonah Friedman jon...@gmail.com mailto:jon...@gmail.com wrote: Long term, that's roughly my thinking with using Fabric Engine for in house development. It puts that very idea within reach of smaller places.
Re: Just a thought - I hear the framestore use an ancient version of maya......
I'd say you're safe within 3+ version of windows, ran SI3D on Win7 some time ago, booted in a second lol. On 03/07/14 10:24, Arvid Björn wrote: What's the risk of Soft 2015 ceasing to work with future versions of operating systems and hardware? On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Jonah Friedman jon...@gmail.com mailto:jon...@gmail.com wrote: Long term, that's roughly my thinking with using Fabric Engine for in house development. It puts that very idea within reach of smaller places.
