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http://www.animationmagazine.net/features/zambezia-becomes-south-africas-top-grossing-film/ Will this help reboot Triggerfish? The animated feature /Adventures in Zambezia/ has grossed an estimated $18 million worldwide, making it the highest grossing South African film over the past 30 years. Triggerfish Animation's highly successful film was recently sold to French distributor Metropolitan Films, which signed up for both /Adventures in Zambezia/ and Triggerfish's next feature, /Khumba/. Among the other final territories to be licensed on /Zambezia/ were Spain, which went to Big Pictures, and Hungary, which was acquired by ADS Services. On 2/28/2013 5:27 AM, Sandy Sutherland wrote: Yep - bar the partners - unfortunately, so some very talented people on the loose! __ Sandy Sutherland mailto:sandy.sutherl...@triggerfish.co.za | Technical Supervisor http://triggerfish.co.za/en http://www.facebook.com/triggerfishanimation http://www.twitter.com/triggerfishza *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] on behalf of Szabolcs Matefy [szabol...@crytek.com] *Sent:* 28 February 2013 11:46 *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* RE: Last day Oh no, entire staff? *From:*softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Sandy Sutherland *Sent:* Thursday, February 28, 2013 10:06 AM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Last day Hi All, Just letting you all know today is d-day for us at Triggerfish - end of day today the entire staff has been set loose. I will be in London as from 5th March - so would absolutley love to meet up with fellow softies when there, maybe have a beer or two and plot the downfall of the 'dark side', or something like that.. I will still be on this list and will check mail when in the UK so please do all let me know if you would like to say hello! Hoping for bigger and better things - and all the TF boys on this list, it has been a real pleasure finding such talent still in SA that could create two features way way way above the financial level they should have been, that have done so well and still will - Khumba just rocks, wish we could show more online! Cheers S. __ Sandy Sutherland mailto:sandy.sutherl...@triggerfish.co.za | Technical Supervisor http://triggerfish.co.za/en http://www.facebook.com/triggerfishanimation http://www.twitter.com/triggerfishza
Last day
Hi All, Just letting you all know today is d-day for us at Triggerfish - end of day today the entire staff has been set loose. I will be in London as from 5th March - so would absolutley love to meet up with fellow softies when there, maybe have a beer or two and plot the downfall of the 'dark side', or something like that.. I will still be on this list and will check mail when in the UK so please do all let me know if you would like to say hello! Hoping for bigger and better things - and all the TF boys on this list, it has been a real pleasure finding such talent still in SA that could create two features way way way above the financial level they should have been, that have done so well and still will - Khumba just rocks, wish we could show more online! Cheers S. Sandy Sutherlandmailto:sandy.sutherl...@triggerfish.co.za | Technical Supervisor [http://triggerfish.co.za/en/wp-content/uploads/udf_foundry/images/logo.png] http://triggerfish.co.za/en [http://static.ak.fbcdn.net/rsrc.php/v2/ym/x/lFV-lsMcC_0.png] http://www.facebook.com/triggerfishanimation [https://si0.twimg.com/a/1349296073/images/resources/twitter-bird-white-on-blue.png] http://www.twitter.com/triggerfishza
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Oh no, entire staff? From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Sandy Sutherland Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 10:06 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Last day Hi All, Just letting you all know today is d-day for us at Triggerfish - end of day today the entire staff has been set loose. I will be in London as from 5th March - so would absolutley love to meet up with fellow softies when there, maybe have a beer or two and plot the downfall of the 'dark side', or something like that.. I will still be on this list and will check mail when in the UK so please do all let me know if you would like to say hello! Hoping for bigger and better things - and all the TF boys on this list, it has been a real pleasure finding such talent still in SA that could create two features way way way above the financial level they should have been, that have done so well and still will - Khumba just rocks, wish we could show more online! Cheers S. Sandy Sutherland mailto:sandy.sutherl...@triggerfish.co.za | Technical Supervisor http://triggerfish.co.za/en http://www.facebook.com/triggerfishanimation http://www.twitter.com/triggerfishza
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Yep - bar the partners - unfortunately, so some very talented people on the loose! Sandy Sutherlandmailto:sandy.sutherl...@triggerfish.co.za | Technical Supervisor [http://triggerfish.co.za/en/wp-content/uploads/udf_foundry/images/logo.png] http://triggerfish.co.za/en [http://static.ak.fbcdn.net/rsrc.php/v2/ym/x/lFV-lsMcC_0.png] http://www.facebook.com/triggerfishanimation [https://si0.twimg.com/a/1349296073/images/resources/twitter-bird-white-on-blue.png] http://www.twitter.com/triggerfishza From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] on behalf of Szabolcs Matefy [szabol...@crytek.com] Sent: 28 February 2013 11:46 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: RE: Last day Oh no, entire staff? From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Sandy Sutherland Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 10:06 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Last day Hi All, Just letting you all know today is d-day for us at Triggerfish - end of day today the entire staff has been set loose. I will be in London as from 5th March - so would absolutley love to meet up with fellow softies when there, maybe have a beer or two and plot the downfall of the 'dark side', or something like that.. I will still be on this list and will check mail when in the UK so please do all let me know if you would like to say hello! Hoping for bigger and better things - and all the TF boys on this list, it has been a real pleasure finding such talent still in SA that could create two features way way way above the financial level they should have been, that have done so well and still will - Khumba just rocks, wish we could show more online! Cheers S. Sandy Sutherlandmailto:sandy.sutherl...@triggerfish.co.za | Technical Supervisor [http://triggerfish.co.za/en/wp-content/uploads/udf_foundry/images/logo.png]http://triggerfish.co.za/en [http://static.ak.fbcdn.net/rsrc.php/v2/ym/x/lFV-lsMcC_0.png]http://www.facebook.com/triggerfishanimation [https://si0.twimg.com/a/1349296073/images/resources/twitter-bird-white-on-blue.png]http://www.twitter.com/triggerfishza
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ugh... sorry if I'm nose picking but what happened? two movies, 1 finished and another in working as I understood and all stuff let go? On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Sandy Sutherland sandy.sutherl...@triggerfish.co.za wrote: Yep - bar the partners - unfortunately, so some very talented people on the loose! * * Sandy Sutherland sandy.sutherl...@triggerfish.co.za | Technical Supervisor http://triggerfish.co.za/en http://www.facebook.com/triggerfishanimation http://www.twitter.com/triggerfishza -- *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [ softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] on behalf of Szabolcs Matefy [ szabol...@crytek.com] *Sent:* 28 February 2013 11:46 *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* RE: Last day Oh no, entire staff? *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Sandy Sutherland *Sent:* Thursday, February 28, 2013 10:06 AM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Last day Hi All, Just letting you all know today is d-day for us at Triggerfish - end of day today the entire staff has been set loose. I will be in London as from 5th March - so would absolutley love to meet up with fellow softies when there, maybe have a beer or two and plot the downfall of the 'dark side', or something like that.. I will still be on this list and will check mail when in the UK so please do all let me know if you would like to say hello! Hoping for bigger and better things - and all the TF boys on this list, it has been a real pleasure finding such talent still in SA that could create two features way way way above the financial level they should have been, that have done so well and still will - Khumba just rocks, wish we could show more online! Cheers S. * * Sandy Sutherland sandy.sutherl...@triggerfish.co.za | Technical Supervisor http://triggerfish.co.za/en http://www.facebook.com/triggerfishanimation http://www.twitter.com/triggerfishza
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Good luck Sandy, I am sure this is the beginning of something even bigger and better, please send me a CV and if nothing else I can perhaps set you up with some remote work from time to time. Best of luck, Nick From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Sandy Sutherland Sent: Thursday, 28 February 2013 7:06 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Last day Hi All, Just letting you all know today is d-day for us at Triggerfish - end of day today the entire staff has been set loose. I will be in London as from 5th March - so would absolutley love to meet up with fellow softies when there, maybe have a beer or two and plot the downfall of the 'dark side', or something like that.. I will still be on this list and will check mail when in the UK so please do all let me know if you would like to say hello! Hoping for bigger and better things - and all the TF boys on this list, it has been a real pleasure finding such talent still in SA that could create two features way way way above the financial level they should have been, that have done so well and still will - Khumba just rocks, wish we could show more online! Cheers S. Sandy Sutherlandmailto:sandy.sutherl...@triggerfish.co.za | Technical Supervisor [http://triggerfish.co.za/en/wp-content/uploads/udf_foundry/images/logo.png]http://triggerfish.co.za/en [http://static.ak.fbcdn.net/rsrc.php/v2/ym/x/lFV-lsMcC_0.png]http://www.facebook.com/triggerfishanimation [https://si0.twimg.com/a/1349296073/images/resources/twitter-bird-white-on-blue.png]http://www.twitter.com/triggerfishza
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Good luck! I'm pretty sure TF people won't have any problem finding a new place, you guys have been doing an amazing job over there :)
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With your knowledge in ICE, I am pretty sure you will be snatched up in no time! Await your good news soon! Update us! On 28 Feb, 2013, at 5:26 PM, Sandy Sutherland sandy.sutherl...@triggerfish.co.zamailto:sandy.sutherl...@triggerfish.co.za wrote: Hi All, Just letting you all know today is d-day for us at Triggerfish - end of day today the entire staff has been set loose. I will be in London as from 5th March - so would absolutley love to meet up with fellow softies when there, maybe have a beer or two and plot the downfall of the 'dark side', or something like that.. I will still be on this list and will check mail when in the UK so please do all let me know if you would like to say hello! Hoping for bigger and better things - and all the TF boys on this list, it has been a real pleasure finding such talent still in SA that could create two features way way way above the financial level they should have been, that have done so well and still will - Khumba just rocks, wish we could show more online! Cheers S. Sandy Sutherlandmailto:sandy.sutherl...@triggerfish.co.za | Technical Supervisor [http://triggerfish.co.za/en/wp-content/uploads/udf_foundry/images/logo.png] http://triggerfish.co.za/en [http://static.ak.fbcdn.net/rsrc.php/v2/ym/x/lFV-lsMcC_0.png] http://www.facebook.com/triggerfishanimation [https://si0.twimg.com/a/1349296073/images/resources/twitter-bird-white-on-blue.png] http://www.twitter.com/triggerfishza attachment: winmail.dat
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Good luck Sandy! Keep us update on your next gig :) -ivan Sent from my iPhone, please excuse for typos. On 28 Feb, 2013, at 5:06 PM, Sandy Sutherland sandy.sutherl...@triggerfish.co.za wrote: Hi All, Just letting you all know today is d-day for us at Triggerfish - end of day today the entire staff has been set loose. I will be in London as from 5th March - so would absolutley love to meet up with fellow softies when there, maybe have a beer or two and plot the downfall of the 'dark side', or something like that.. I will still be on this list and will check mail when in the UK so please do all let me know if you would like to say hello! Hoping for bigger and better things - and all the TF boys on this list, it has been a real pleasure finding such talent still in SA that could create two features way way way above the financial level they should have been, that have done so well and still will - Khumba just rocks, wish we could show more online! Cheers S. Sandy Sutherland | Technical Supervisor
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Good luck Sandy ! Waiting to see your new cool work soon . . .
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Real bad news for vfx industry.. anyway Good Luck Sandy...every thing happens for good... so there must be some good thing is waiting for all of you..
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TriggerFish is closing ? Wish you all the best Sandy ! Le 28/02/2013 14:39, Debdas Mohanty a écrit : Real bad news for vfx industry.. anyway Good Luck Sandy...every thing happens for good... so there must be some good thing is waiting for all of you..
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Sad news, Sandy. Good luck on your future, and keep checking in, here. On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 4:06 AM, Sandy Sutherland sandy.sutherl...@triggerfish.co.za wrote: Hi All, Just letting you all know today is d-day for us at Triggerfish - end of day today the entire staff has been set loose. I will be in London as from 5th March - so would absolutley love to meet up with fellow softies when there, maybe have a beer or two and plot the downfall of the 'dark side', or something like that.. I will still be on this list and will check mail when in the UK so please do all let me know if you would like to say hello! Hoping for bigger and better things - and all the TF boys on this list, it has been a real pleasure finding such talent still in SA that could create two features way way way above the financial level they should have been, that have done so well and still will - Khumba just rocks, wish we could show more online! Cheers S. * * Sandy Sutherland sandy.sutherl...@triggerfish.co.za | Technical Supervisor http://triggerfish.co.za/en http://www.facebook.com/triggerfishanimation http://www.twitter.com/triggerfishza -- Best Regards, * Stephen P. Davidson** **(954) 552-7956 *sdavid...@3danimationmagic.com *Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic* - Arthur C. Clarke http://www.3danimationmagic.com
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It's disheartening to hear this, Sandy. I do hope the rest of your crew can find their way through it well enough. I wish we were hiring. -Tim On 2/28/2013 4:27 AM, Sandy Sutherland wrote: Yep - bar the partners - unfortunately, so some very talented people on the loose! __ Sandy Sutherland mailto:sandy.sutherl...@triggerfish.co.za | Technical Supervisor http://triggerfish.co.za/en http://www.facebook.com/triggerfishanimation http://www.twitter.com/triggerfishza *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] on behalf of Szabolcs Matefy [szabol...@crytek.com] *Sent:* 28 February 2013 11:46 *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* RE: Last day Oh no, entire staff? *From:*softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Sandy Sutherland *Sent:* Thursday, February 28, 2013 10:06 AM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Last day Hi All, Just letting you all know today is d-day for us at Triggerfish - end of day today the entire staff has been set loose. I will be in London as from 5th March - so would absolutley love to meet up with fellow softies when there, maybe have a beer or two and plot the downfall of the 'dark side', or something like that.. I will still be on this list and will check mail when in the UK so please do all let me know if you would like to say hello! Hoping for bigger and better things - and all the TF boys on this list, it has been a real pleasure finding such talent still in SA that could create two features way way way above the financial level they should have been, that have done so well and still will - Khumba just rocks, wish we could show more online! Cheers S. __ Sandy Sutherland mailto:sandy.sutherl...@triggerfish.co.za | Technical Supervisor http://triggerfish.co.za/en http://www.facebook.com/triggerfishanimation http://www.twitter.com/triggerfishza -- Signature
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Cheers buddy was epic working with you. enjoy the holidays and checks you some time in the future or sooner or the mailing list, or 9GAG bombing me while im trying to work at home XD haha.. all the best On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 4:49 PM, Enrique Caballero enriquecaball...@gmail.com wrote: i used to work there as well, 4 years. mostly left with quite fond memories. at times a very political environment though, i hope thats softened a bit, all big studios are like that though, ill happily go back in 5 years or so when im done with asia On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 12:22 AM, Paul Sultan paul.sul...@psyop.tvwrote: Good luck wherever your off to Thivierge! On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Eric Thivierge ethivie...@gmail.comwrote: Visit is a bit of an understatement. :) On Dec 21, 2012 5:09 PM, Miquel Campos miquel.cam...@gmail.com wrote: Awesome good mood Softimage thread! :) BTW: Are you coming to visit Montreal? Miquel Campos www.akaosaru.com 2012/12/21 Eric Thivierge ethivie...@gmail.com: Heading home for a bit them heading up north. :) I really just wanted this thread to let every... -- --- Simon Ben Anderson blog: http://vinyldevelopment.wordpress.com/
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I miss your hair. :( On 1 January 2013 19:56, Simon Anderson simonbenandersonl...@gmail.comwrote: Cheers buddy was epic working with you. enjoy the holidays and checks you some time in the future or sooner or the mailing list, or 9GAG bombing me while im trying to work at home XD haha.. all the best On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 4:49 PM, Enrique Caballero enriquecaball...@gmail.com wrote: i used to work there as well, 4 years. mostly left with quite fond memories. at times a very political environment though, i hope thats softened a bit, all big studios are like that though, ill happily go back in 5 years or so when im done with asia On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 12:22 AM, Paul Sultan paul.sul...@psyop.tvwrote: Good luck wherever your off to Thivierge! On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Eric Thivierge ethivie...@gmail.comwrote: Visit is a bit of an understatement. :) On Dec 21, 2012 5:09 PM, Miquel Campos miquel.cam...@gmail.com wrote: Awesome good mood Softimage thread! :) BTW: Are you coming to visit Montreal? Miquel Campos www.akaosaru.com 2012/12/21 Eric Thivierge ethivie...@gmail.com: Heading home for a bit them heading up north. :) I really just wanted this thread to let every... -- --- Simon Ben Anderson blog: http://vinyldevelopment.wordpress.com/
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and the beard On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 9:20 AM, Simon Pickard m...@simonpickard.com wrote: I miss your hair. :( On 1 January 2013 19:56, Simon Anderson simonbenandersonl...@gmail.comwrote: Cheers buddy was epic working with you. enjoy the holidays and checks you some time in the future or sooner or the mailing list, or 9GAG bombing me while im trying to work at home XD haha.. all the best On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 4:49 PM, Enrique Caballero enriquecaball...@gmail.com wrote: i used to work there as well, 4 years. mostly left with quite fond memories. at times a very political environment though, i hope thats softened a bit, all big studios are like that though, ill happily go back in 5 years or so when im done with asia On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 12:22 AM, Paul Sultan paul.sul...@psyop.tvwrote: Good luck wherever your off to Thivierge! On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Eric Thivierge ethivie...@gmail.comwrote: Visit is a bit of an understatement. :) On Dec 21, 2012 5:09 PM, Miquel Campos miquel.cam...@gmail.com wrote: Awesome good mood Softimage thread! :) BTW: Are you coming to visit Montreal? Miquel Campos www.akaosaru.com 2012/12/21 Eric Thivierge ethivie...@gmail.com: Heading home for a bit them heading up north. :) I really just wanted this thread to let every... -- --- Simon Ben Anderson blog: http://vinyldevelopment.wordpress.com/ -- Edy Susanto Lim TD http://sawamura.neorack.com
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Wookie, Yeti Hybrid On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Raffaele Fragapane raffsxsil...@googlemail.com wrote: It's hard to tell which is which. On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Edy Susanto Lim edysusant...@gmail.comwrote: and the beard On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 9:20 AM, Simon Pickard m...@simonpickard.comwrote: I miss your hair. :( -- --- Simon Ben Anderson blog: http://vinyldevelopment.wordpress.com/
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Ha ha, you guys miss me. Have fun in the warm weather. Frigid here. Coffee here sucks, send good coffee immediately.
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There's a smell of bromance all over this thread. Miss you Wookie!
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Good luck wherever your off to Thivierge! On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Eric Thivierge ethivie...@gmail.comwrote: Visit is a bit of an understatement. :) On Dec 21, 2012 5:09 PM, Miquel Campos miquel.cam...@gmail.com wrote: Awesome good mood Softimage thread! :) BTW: Are you coming to visit Montreal? Miquel Campos www.akaosaru.com 2012/12/21 Eric Thivierge ethivie...@gmail.com: Heading home for a bit them heading up north. :) I really just wanted this thread to let every...
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Visit is a bit of an understatement. :) On Dec 21, 2012 5:09 PM, Miquel Campos miquel.cam...@gmail.com wrote: Awesome good mood Softimage thread! :) BTW: Are you coming to visit Montreal? Miquel Campos www.akaosaru.com 2012/12/21 Eric Thivierge ethivie...@gmail.com: Heading home for a bit them heading up north. :) I really just wanted this thread to let every...
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Tim Eric... awesome thread! On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 4:07 PM, Tim Crowson tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com wrote: So what's next for you, Eric? -Tim C. On 12/21/2012 3:19 PM, Eric Thivierge wrote: It was my last day yesterday at Animal Logic. I have to say that anyone that wants to work with top notch people using softimage and go on an adventure should look into heading down under for a bit. I was there for a year and three months and had a hell of a great time. Heading home today. Raf and the gang were great to work with and learn from. Just wanted to let everyone know what a great place it was to work and encourage anyone who may have the opportunity to head down there. Now, got to see a man about a 14 hour flight back to the states. :) Happy holidays everyone! -- Signature
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* applause* On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Bradley Gabe witha...@gmail.com wrote: Tim Eric... awesome thread! On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 4:07 PM, Tim Crowson tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com wrote: So what's next for you, Eric? -Tim C. On 12/21/2012 3:19 PM, Eric Thivierge wrote: It was my last day yesterday at Animal Logic. I have to say that anyone that wants to work with top notch people using softimage and go on an adventure should look into heading down under for a bit. I was there for a year and three months and had a hell of a great time. Heading home today. Raf and the gang were great to work with and learn from. Just wanted to let everyone know what a great place it was to work and encourage anyone who may have the opportunity to head down there. Now, got to see a man about a 14 hour flight back to the states. :) Happy holidays everyone! -- Signature -- puppetstring.com
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Heading home for a bit them heading up north. :) I really just wanted this thread to let everyone know that Softimage was running strong and some high end work was being done with it. A lot of doom and gloom going around this last year but it should be noted that amazing stuff was being pushed through pipelines based around Softimage. Film work especially. On Dec 22, 2012 9:19 AM, Guillaume Laforge guillaume.laforge...@gmail.com wrote: Tim Eric Bradley... awesome thread! On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 5:12 PM, Bradley Gabe witha...@gmail.com wrote: Tim Eric
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Awesome good mood Softimage thread! :) BTW: Are you coming to visit Montreal? Miquel Campos www.akaosaru.com 2012/12/21 Eric Thivierge ethivie...@gmail.com: Heading home for a bit them heading up north. :) I really just wanted this thread to let everyone know that Softimage was running strong and some high end work was being done with it. A lot of doom and gloom going around this last year but it should be noted that amazing stuff was being pushed through pipelines based around Softimage. Film work especially. On Dec 22, 2012 9:19 AM, Guillaume Laforge guillaume.laforge...@gmail.com wrote: Tim Eric Bradley... awesome thread! On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 5:12 PM, Bradley Gabe witha...@gmail.com wrote: Tim Eric
