Re: OT: Camera lens distortion

[Jordi Bares]

Ha ha ha ha…. true, I don’t like it either
jb

> On 17 Aug 2016, at 13:35, Adam Seeley  wrote:
> 
> The 3DE interface gives me a headache.
> 
> A.
> 
> On 5 August 2016 at 18:57, Jordi Bares  > wrote:
> DxO do a fantastic job but of course they deal with highly modern lenses and 
> cameras so chances are these are more relevant plus its function is more 
> aesthetic than technical so I would suggest to be inspired by their work but 
> treat each lens/body as a different lens altogether, they really are.
> 
> enjoy
> jb
> 
> 
>> On 5 Aug 2016, at 15:54, Adam Seeley > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Jordi,
>> 
>> Thanks for the in-depth reasoning.
>> 
>> I'm impressed enough with the companies like DxO manage to provide the 
>> combinations they do for DLSR.
>> Thought it a bit unlikely for film work but worth asking.
>> 
>> Might have to have another look at 3DE then.. I keep heading back to PFTrack 
>> at the moment.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Adam.
>> 
>> 
>> On 4 August 2016 at 10:37, Jordi Bares > > wrote:
>> You want to approximate it from the track, that is the only truth you have.. 
>> where to put your VFX.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 3 Aug 2016, at 15:58, Adam Seeley >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks peeps,
>>> 
>>> I was really just wondering whether any tracking software would just allow 
>>> you enter a camera/lens combination rather than having to approximate it 
>>> from the track.
>>> 
>>> Ta,
>>> 
>>> Adam.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 3 August 2016 at 14:50, christian >> > wrote:
>>> maybe just use lightroom ? pretty easy to do lens adjustments in there and 
>>> batch conversions and so on.
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 11:13 AM, Waylon Winn >> > wrote:
>>> You could try PTLens. It has been awhile since I used it but it might be 
>>> useful.
>>> 
>>> http://epaperpress.com/ptlens/ 
>>> 
>>> Take care,
>>> 
>>> Waylon
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 2:08 AM, Adam Seeley >> > wrote:
>>> Hi folks,
>>> 
>>> Wondered if I could tap into some accumulated knowledge on the list.
>>> 
>>> Does any of the software out there allow you to undistort plates using 
>>> ready made profiles based on camera/lens combinations?
>>> 
>>> Have the problem of there not being enough time to shoot grids due to the 
>>> camera being fitted to a helicopter for evening shots.
>>> 
>>> I know there's various software for DLSR/lens combinations like DxO and 
>>> even Photoshop ,that will read EXIF or manually input information that will 
>>> do the job.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Adam
>>> 
>>> _
>>> Adam Seeley
>>> Love Vfx Ltd.
>>> www.LoveVfx.co.uk 
>>> www.linkedin.com/in/adamseeleyuk 
>>> www.vimeo.com/adamseeley 
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Re: OT: Camera lens distortion

[Adam Seeley]

The 3DE interface gives me a headache.

A.

On 5 August 2016 at 18:57, Jordi Bares  wrote:

> DxO do a fantastic job but of course they deal with highly modern lenses
> and cameras so chances are these are more relevant plus its function is
> more aesthetic than technical so I would suggest to be inspired by their
> work but treat each lens/body as a different lens altogether, they really
> are.
>
> enjoy
> jb
>
>
> On 5 Aug 2016, at 15:54, Adam Seeley  wrote:
>
> Hi Jordi,
>
> Thanks for the in-depth reasoning.
>
> I'm impressed enough with the companies like DxO manage to provide the
> combinations they do for DLSR.
> Thought it a bit unlikely for film work but worth asking.
>
> Might have to have another look at 3DE then.. I keep heading back to
> PFTrack at the moment.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Adam.
>
>
> On 4 August 2016 at 10:37, Jordi Bares  wrote:
>
>> You want to approximate it from the track, that is the only truth you
>> have.. where to put your VFX.
>>
>>
>> On 3 Aug 2016, at 15:58, Adam Seeley  wrote:
>>
>> Thanks peeps,
>>
>> I was really just wondering whether any tracking software would just
>> allow you enter a camera/lens combination rather than having to approximate
>> it from the track.
>>
>> Ta,
>>
>> Adam.
>>
>>
>> On 3 August 2016 at 14:50, christian  wrote:
>>
>>> maybe just use lightroom ? pretty easy to do lens adjustments in there
>>> and batch conversions and so on.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 11:13 AM, Waylon Winn 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 You could try PTLens. It has been awhile since I used it but it might
 be useful.

 http://epaperpress.com/ptlens/

 Take care,

 Waylon

 On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 2:08 AM, Adam Seeley 
 wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> Wondered if I could tap into some accumulated knowledge on the list.
>
> Does any of the software out there allow you to undistort plates using
> ready made profiles based on camera/lens combinations?
>
> Have the problem of there not being enough time to shoot grids due to
> the camera being fitted to a helicopter for evening shots.
>
> I know there's various software for DLSR/lens combinations like DxO
> and even Photoshop ,that will read EXIF or manually input information that
> will do the job.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Adam
>
> _
> Adam Seeley
> Love Vfx Ltd.
> www.LoveVfx.co.uk 
> www.linkedin.com/in/adamseeleyuk
> www.vimeo.com/adamseeley 
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Re: OT: Camera lens distortion

[Jordi Bares]

DxO do a fantastic job but of course they deal with highly modern lenses and 
cameras so chances are these are more relevant plus its function is more 
aesthetic than technical so I would suggest to be inspired by their work but 
treat each lens/body as a different lens altogether, they really are.

enjoy
jb


> On 5 Aug 2016, at 15:54, Adam Seeley  wrote:
> 
> Hi Jordi,
> 
> Thanks for the in-depth reasoning.
> 
> I'm impressed enough with the companies like DxO manage to provide the 
> combinations they do for DLSR.
> Thought it a bit unlikely for film work but worth asking.
> 
> Might have to have another look at 3DE then.. I keep heading back to PFTrack 
> at the moment.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Adam.
> 
> 
> On 4 August 2016 at 10:37, Jordi Bares  > wrote:
> You want to approximate it from the track, that is the only truth you have.. 
> where to put your VFX.
> 
> 
>> On 3 Aug 2016, at 15:58, Adam Seeley > > wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks peeps,
>> 
>> I was really just wondering whether any tracking software would just allow 
>> you enter a camera/lens combination rather than having to approximate it 
>> from the track.
>> 
>> Ta,
>> 
>> Adam.
>> 
>> 
>> On 3 August 2016 at 14:50, christian > > wrote:
>> maybe just use lightroom ? pretty easy to do lens adjustments in there and 
>> batch conversions and so on.
>> 
>> On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 11:13 AM, Waylon Winn > > wrote:
>> You could try PTLens. It has been awhile since I used it but it might be 
>> useful.
>> 
>> http://epaperpress.com/ptlens/ 
>> 
>> Take care,
>> 
>> Waylon
>> 
>> On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 2:08 AM, Adam Seeley > > wrote:
>> Hi folks,
>> 
>> Wondered if I could tap into some accumulated knowledge on the list.
>> 
>> Does any of the software out there allow you to undistort plates using ready 
>> made profiles based on camera/lens combinations?
>> 
>> Have the problem of there not being enough time to shoot grids due to the 
>> camera being fitted to a helicopter for evening shots.
>> 
>> I know there's various software for DLSR/lens combinations like DxO and even 
>> Photoshop ,that will read EXIF or manually input information that will do 
>> the job.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Adam
>> 
>> _
>> Adam Seeley
>> Love Vfx Ltd.
>> www.LoveVfx.co.uk 
>> www.linkedin.com/in/adamseeleyuk 
>> www.vimeo.com/adamseeley 
>> 
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Re: OT: Camera lens distortion

[Adam Seeley]

Hi Jordi,

Thanks for the in-depth reasoning.

I'm impressed enough with the companies like DxO manage to provide the
combinations they do for DLSR.
Thought it a bit unlikely for film work but worth asking.

Might have to have another look at 3DE then.. I keep heading back to
PFTrack at the moment.

Cheers,

Adam.


On 4 August 2016 at 10:37, Jordi Bares  wrote:

> You want to approximate it from the track, that is the only truth you
> have.. where to put your VFX.
>
>
> On 3 Aug 2016, at 15:58, Adam Seeley  wrote:
>
> Thanks peeps,
>
> I was really just wondering whether any tracking software would just allow
> you enter a camera/lens combination rather than having to approximate it
> from the track.
>
> Ta,
>
> Adam.
>
>
> On 3 August 2016 at 14:50, christian  wrote:
>
>> maybe just use lightroom ? pretty easy to do lens adjustments in there
>> and batch conversions and so on.
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 11:13 AM, Waylon Winn 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> You could try PTLens. It has been awhile since I used it but it might be
>>> useful.
>>>
>>> http://epaperpress.com/ptlens/
>>>
>>> Take care,
>>>
>>> Waylon
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 2:08 AM, Adam Seeley 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi folks,

 Wondered if I could tap into some accumulated knowledge on the list.

 Does any of the software out there allow you to undistort plates using
 ready made profiles based on camera/lens combinations?

 Have the problem of there not being enough time to shoot grids due to
 the camera being fitted to a helicopter for evening shots.

 I know there's various software for DLSR/lens combinations like DxO and
 even Photoshop ,that will read EXIF or manually input information that will
 do the job.

 Thanks,

 Adam

 _
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 www.LoveVfx.co.uk 
 www.linkedin.com/in/adamseeleyuk
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Re: OT: Camera lens distortion

[Jordi Bares]

You want to approximate it from the track, that is the only truth you have.. 
where to put your VFX.

> On 3 Aug 2016, at 15:58, Adam Seeley  wrote:
> 
> Thanks peeps,
> 
> I was really just wondering whether any tracking software would just allow 
> you enter a camera/lens combination rather than having to approximate it from 
> the track.
> 
> Ta,
> 
> Adam.
> 
> 
> On 3 August 2016 at 14:50, christian  > wrote:
> maybe just use lightroom ? pretty easy to do lens adjustments in there and 
> batch conversions and so on.
> 
> On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 11:13 AM, Waylon Winn  > wrote:
> You could try PTLens. It has been awhile since I used it but it might be 
> useful.
> 
> http://epaperpress.com/ptlens/ 
> 
> Take care,
> 
> Waylon
> 
> On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 2:08 AM, Adam Seeley  > wrote:
> Hi folks,
> 
> Wondered if I could tap into some accumulated knowledge on the list.
> 
> Does any of the software out there allow you to undistort plates using ready 
> made profiles based on camera/lens combinations?
> 
> Have the problem of there not being enough time to shoot grids due to the 
> camera being fitted to a helicopter for evening shots.
> 
> I know there's various software for DLSR/lens combinations like DxO and even 
> Photoshop ,that will read EXIF or manually input information that will do the 
> job.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Adam
> 
> _
> Adam Seeley
> Love Vfx Ltd.
> www.LoveVfx.co.uk 
> www.linkedin.com/in/adamseeleyuk 
> www.vimeo.com/adamseeley 
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Re: OT: Camera lens distortion

[Jordi Bares]

The big issue with lens databases is that they need to be very well crafted or 
you will end up trusting something that is not right although surely better 
than nothing… I guess.

To do it well we should be registering the grids with variations of focal 
lengths (zoom lenses of course) and for each of those a series of focal 
distances and this is VERY time consuming to do well. Assume a full day for a 
normal set of lenses and you will need a massive (truly massive) grid on a wall 
so there are some logistics involved too.

Furthermore, when you face old anamorphic lenses then all bets are off and you 
have to scale up the operation in a big way to do some decent tracking, only 
3DE can model degree 6 anamorphic distortions with lens breathing and the lot, 
therefore my tool of choice is 3DE, the rest feel like toys, very capable tools 
for 90% of the cases though but when things turn ugly… in my experience only 
3DE can crack these.

But it is obvious that with today’s constraints (time and money) it may be 
unrealistic to do the full thing so my suggestion is to operate with the new 
generation of Cooke or Arri lenses (Ultra Primes) and simplify the distortion 
grids to focal length and only on those shots that you envision problems to do 
the full set of Focal Length and Focal Distance.

A question I have… How much would you be happy to pay a month to have access to 
a properly constructed lens database (ready to go with any software)? consider 
this, if the lens is not already in the database you get the distortion done 
(provided you send the grids properly done) within hours for free and from then 
on is available to everyone. Would that be something the majority of people 
would be happy to pay for? I know I would but I am interested.

hope it helps
jb


> On 3 Aug 2016, at 13:17, Rob Wuijster  wrote:
> 
> Haven't used it in a while, but SynthEyes can do some undistorting as well, 
> when you have no grid while shooting.
> Rob
> \/-\/\/
> On 3-8-2016 11:13, Waylon Winn wrote:
>> You could try PTLens. It has been awhile since I used it but it might be 
>> useful.
>> 
>> http://epaperpress.com/ptlens/ 
>> 
>> Take care,
>> 
>> Waylon
>> 
>> On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 2:08 AM, Adam Seeley > > wrote:
>> Hi folks,
>> 
>> Wondered if I could tap into some accumulated knowledge on the list.
>> 
>> Does any of the software out there allow you to undistort plates using ready 
>> made profiles based on camera/lens combinations?
>> 
>> Have the problem of there not being enough time to shoot grids due to the 
>> camera being fitted to a helicopter for evening shots.
>> 
>> I know there's various software for DLSR/lens combinations like DxO and even 
>> Photoshop ,that will read EXIF or manually input information that will do 
>> the job.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Adam
>> 
>> _
>> Adam Seeley
>> Love Vfx Ltd.
>> www.LoveVfx.co.uk 
>> www.linkedin.com/in/adamseeleyuk 
>> www.vimeo.com/adamseeley 
>> 
>> 
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Re: OT: Camera lens distortion

[Adam Seeley]

Thanks peeps,

I was really just wondering whether any tracking software would just allow
you enter a camera/lens combination rather than having to approximate it
from the track.

Ta,

Adam.


On 3 August 2016 at 14:50, christian  wrote:

> maybe just use lightroom ? pretty easy to do lens adjustments in there and
> batch conversions and so on.
>
> On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 11:13 AM, Waylon Winn  wrote:
>
>> You could try PTLens. It has been awhile since I used it but it might be
>> useful.
>>
>> http://epaperpress.com/ptlens/
>>
>> Take care,
>>
>> Waylon
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 2:08 AM, Adam Seeley 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi folks,
>>>
>>> Wondered if I could tap into some accumulated knowledge on the list.
>>>
>>> Does any of the software out there allow you to undistort plates using
>>> ready made profiles based on camera/lens combinations?
>>>
>>> Have the problem of there not being enough time to shoot grids due to
>>> the camera being fitted to a helicopter for evening shots.
>>>
>>> I know there's various software for DLSR/lens combinations like DxO and
>>> even Photoshop ,that will read EXIF or manually input information that will
>>> do the job.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Adam
>>>
>>> _
>>> Adam Seeley
>>> Love Vfx Ltd.
>>> www.LoveVfx.co.uk 
>>> www.linkedin.com/in/adamseeleyuk
>>> www.vimeo.com/adamseeley 
>>>
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Re: OT: Camera lens distortion

[christian]

maybe just use lightroom ? pretty easy to do lens adjustments in there and
batch conversions and so on.

On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 11:13 AM, Waylon Winn  wrote:

> You could try PTLens. It has been awhile since I used it but it might be
> useful.
>
> http://epaperpress.com/ptlens/
>
> Take care,
>
> Waylon
>
> On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 2:08 AM, Adam Seeley  wrote:
>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> Wondered if I could tap into some accumulated knowledge on the list.
>>
>> Does any of the software out there allow you to undistort plates using
>> ready made profiles based on camera/lens combinations?
>>
>> Have the problem of there not being enough time to shoot grids due to the
>> camera being fitted to a helicopter for evening shots.
>>
>> I know there's various software for DLSR/lens combinations like DxO and
>> even Photoshop ,that will read EXIF or manually input information that will
>> do the job.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Adam
>>
>> _
>> Adam Seeley
>> Love Vfx Ltd.
>> www.LoveVfx.co.uk 
>> www.linkedin.com/in/adamseeleyuk
>> www.vimeo.com/adamseeley 
>>
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Re: OT: Camera lens distortion

[Rob Wuijster]

Haven't used it in a while, but SynthEyes can do some undistorting as 
well, when you have no grid while shooting.


Rob
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On 3-8-2016 11:13, Waylon Winn wrote:
You could try PTLens. It has been awhile since I used it but it might 
be useful.


http://epaperpress.com/ptlens/

Take care,

Waylon

On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 2:08 AM, Adam Seeley > wrote:


Hi folks,

Wondered if I could tap into some accumulated knowledge on the list.

Does any of the software out there allow you to undistort plates
using ready made profiles based on camera/lens combinations?

Have the problem of there not being enough time to shoot grids due
to the camera being fitted to a helicopter for evening shots.

I know there's various software for DLSR/lens combinations like
DxO and even Photoshop ,that will read EXIF or manually input
information that will do the job.

Thanks,

Adam

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Love Vfx Ltd.
www.LoveVfx.co.uk 
www.linkedin.com/in/adamseeleyuk

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Re: OT: Camera lens distortion

[Waylon Winn]

You could try PTLens. It has been awhile since I used it but it might be
useful.

http://epaperpress.com/ptlens/

Take care,

Waylon

On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 2:08 AM, Adam Seeley  wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> Wondered if I could tap into some accumulated knowledge on the list.
>
> Does any of the software out there allow you to undistort plates using
> ready made profiles based on camera/lens combinations?
>
> Have the problem of there not being enough time to shoot grids due to the
> camera being fitted to a helicopter for evening shots.
>
> I know there's various software for DLSR/lens combinations like DxO and
> even Photoshop ,that will read EXIF or manually input information that will
> do the job.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Adam
>
> _
> Adam Seeley
> Love Vfx Ltd.
> www.LoveVfx.co.uk 
> www.linkedin.com/in/adamseeleyuk
> www.vimeo.com/adamseeley 
>
>
>
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OT: Camera lens distortion

[Adam Seeley]

Hi folks,

Wondered if I could tap into some accumulated knowledge on the list.

Does any of the software out there allow you to undistort plates using
ready made profiles based on camera/lens combinations?

Have the problem of there not being enough time to shoot grids due to the
camera being fitted to a helicopter for evening shots.

I know there's various software for DLSR/lens combinations like DxO and
even Photoshop ,that will read EXIF or manually input information that will
do the job.

Thanks,

Adam

_
Adam Seeley
Love Vfx Ltd.
www.LoveVfx.co.uk 
www.linkedin.com/in/adamseeleyuk
www.vimeo.com/adamseeley 
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