Re: Windows 7 or 8

[Stephen Davidson]

Here is an article that explains how to remove Metro from Windows 8.1
http://www.zdnet.com/the-metro-haters-guide-to-the-windows-8-1-preview-718398/

I don't know if it will help your situation, but at least Windows will look
more familiar.


On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 5:41 AM, Rob Wuijster  wrote:

>  afaik windowing in metro mode isn't part of W8 or W8.1, as to boot to
> desktop and have a wallpaper on the startscreen are.
>
> The "Metro app in a window on the desktop" is something done by a company
> called Stardock, and is called ModernMix.
>
> Unless I understand your comment wrong.
>
>
> Rob
>
> \/-\/\/
>
> On 26-8-2013 1:09, Raffaele Fragapane wrote:
>
>  There are more than a few apps that barf at win8 in metro mode, and even
> with several tweaks some are just plain too painful.
>  The Crytek SDK one and half release ago in example outright refuses to
> run for many people.
>
>  It's a minority, and my experience is Soft, Maya, PS, ZBrush etc. all
> run perfectly fine, but it's not an irrelevant minority. You might want to
> make a census of your apps and look up on the interwebs which work and
> which don't.
>
>  Before contemplating win 8 though I'd give it a couple months. 8.1 with a
> lot of fixes and a less aggressive metro mode (not to mention windowing in
> metro mode) should be out in October, and might very well fix A LOT of
> these issues.
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 5:13 AM, Alex Dorman wrote:
>
>> What programs were causing the most problems? Did you try running them in
>> compatibility mode? I'm thinking of buying a new workstation and going down
>> the windows 8 route but might not if its a world of pain.
>>
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Re: Windows 7 or 8

[Rob Wuijster]

afaik windowing in metro mode isn't part of W8 or W8.1, as to boot to 
desktop and have a wallpaper on the startscreen are.


The "Metro app in a window on the desktop" is something done by a 
company called Stardock, and is called ModernMix.


Unless I understand your comment wrong.


Rob

\/-\/\/

On 26-8-2013 1:09, Raffaele Fragapane wrote:
There are more than a few apps that barf at win8 in metro mode, and 
even with several tweaks some are just plain too painful.
The Crytek SDK one and half release ago in example outright refuses to 
run for many people.


It's a minority, and my experience is Soft, Maya, PS, ZBrush etc. all 
run perfectly fine, but it's not an irrelevant minority. You might 
want to make a census of your apps and look up on the interwebs which 
work and which don't.


Before contemplating win 8 though I'd give it a couple months. 8.1 
with a lot of fixes and a less aggressive metro mode (not to mention 
windowing in metro mode) should be out in October, and might very well 
fix A LOT of these issues.



On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 5:13 AM, Alex Dorman > wrote:


What programs were causing the most problems? Did you try running
them in compatibility mode? I'm thinking of buying a new
workstation and going down the windows 8 route but might not if
its a world of pain.


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Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 
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Re: Windows 7 or 8

[Raffaele Fragapane]

There are more than a few apps that barf at win8 in metro mode, and even
with several tweaks some are just plain too painful.
The Crytek SDK one and half release ago in example outright refuses to run
for many people.

It's a minority, and my experience is Soft, Maya, PS, ZBrush etc. all run
perfectly fine, but it's not an irrelevant minority. You might want to make
a census of your apps and look up on the interwebs which work and which
don't.

Before contemplating win 8 though I'd give it a couple months. 8.1 with a
lot of fixes and a less aggressive metro mode (not to mention windowing in
metro mode) should be out in October, and might very well fix A LOT of
these issues.


On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 5:13 AM, Alex Dorman wrote:

> What programs were causing the most problems? Did you try running them in
> compatibility mode? I'm thinking of buying a new workstation and going down
> the windows 8 route but might not if its a world of pain.
>
>

RE: Windows 7 or 8

[Alex Dorman]

What programs were causing the most problems? Did you try running them in
compatibility mode? I'm thinking of buying a new workstation and going down
the windows 8 route but might not if its a world of pain.
On 23 Aug 2013 00:40, "Ben Houston"  wrote:

> Tried to install software on windows 8 today and got nothing but error
> msgs and crashes. Finally reinstalled with windows 7 and it all works great.
>
> Sent from my phone.
> On Aug 21, 2013 3:06 PM, "Sven Constable" 
> wrote:
>
>> Then it's not a farm but a barn. A renderbarn. :)
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:
>> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Andres Stephens
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 21, 2013 8:17 PM
>> *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
>> *Subject:* Re: Windows 7 or 8
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> I use both W7 and W8 on a render my farm, my farm is like a motely crew
>> of pirates, all random computers. =P 
>>
>>  
>>
>> -Draise
>>
>>  
>>
>> *From:* Angus Davidson
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 21, 2013 08:34 
>> *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
>>
>>  
>>
>> Hi All
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> I am looking at imaging our render farm (mac mini's running bootcamp). I
>> have a very nice workflow via win clone pro . I can using Apple Remote
>> Desktop  pump out the images as mac packages  to any of the mac on the
>> network and it automatically installs bootcamp and the windows therein. (I
>> just need to change the machine name, and activate windows and I am good to
>> go)
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> The only problem I have is that even for the base windows 7 install the
>> uncompressed image is about 20Gigs in size.  Add the packages I need on it
>> to render  and it grows again.
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Windows 8 has a much smaller footprint upfront. (8Gigs)
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Which leads to my question. Has anyone had experience with using a
>> windows 8 based render farm vs a windows 7 one. I must admit I am more
>> comfortable in windows 7, But having a much more optimised image is also a
>> great thing when your doing a lot of deployments.
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Angus
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RE: Windows 7 or 8

[Ben Houston]

Tried to install software on windows 8 today and got nothing but error msgs
and crashes. Finally reinstalled with windows 7 and it all works great.

Sent from my phone.
On Aug 21, 2013 3:06 PM, "Sven Constable"  wrote:

> Then it's not a farm but a barn. A renderbarn. :)
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:
> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Andres Stephens
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 21, 2013 8:17 PM
> *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> *Subject:* Re: Windows 7 or 8
>
> ** **
>
> I use both W7 and W8 on a render my farm, my farm is like a motely crew of
> pirates, all random computers. =P 
>
>  
>
> -Draise
>
>  
>
> *From:* Angus Davidson
> *Sent:* ‎Wednesday‎, ‎August‎ ‎21‎, ‎2013 ‎08‎:‎34‎ ‎
> *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
>
>  
>
> Hi All
>
> ** **
>
> I am looking at imaging our render farm (mac mini's running bootcamp). I
> have a very nice workflow via win clone pro . I can using Apple Remote
> Desktop  pump out the images as mac packages  to any of the mac on the
> network and it automatically installs bootcamp and the windows therein. (I
> just need to change the machine name, and activate windows and I am good to
> go)
>
> ** **
>
> The only problem I have is that even for the base windows 7 install the
> uncompressed image is about 20Gigs in size.  Add the packages I need on it
> to render  and it grows again.
>
> ** **
>
> Windows 8 has a much smaller footprint upfront. (8Gigs)
>
> ** **
>
> Which leads to my question. Has anyone had experience with using a windows
> 8 based render farm vs a windows 7 one. I must admit I am more comfortable
> in windows 7, But having a much more optimised image is also a great thing
> when your doing a lot of deployments.
>
> ** **
>
> Kind regards
>
> ** **
>
> Angus
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RE: Windows 7 or 8

[Sven Constable]

Then it's not a farm but a barn. A renderbarn. :)

 

From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Andres Stephens
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 8:17 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Windows 7 or 8

 

I use both W7 and W8 on a render my farm, my farm is like a motely crew of 
pirates, all random computers. =P 

 

-Draise

 

From: Angus Davidson
Sent: ‎Wednesday‎, ‎August‎ ‎21‎, ‎2013 ‎08‎:‎34‎ ‎
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com

 

Hi All

 

I am looking at imaging our render farm (mac mini's running bootcamp). I have a 
very nice workflow via win clone pro . I can using Apple Remote Desktop  pump 
out the images as mac packages  to any of the mac on the network and it 
automatically installs bootcamp and the windows therein. (I just need to change 
the machine name, and activate windows and I am good to go)

 

The only problem I have is that even for the base windows 7 install the 
uncompressed image is about 20Gigs in size.  Add the packages I need on it to 
render  and it grows again.

 

Windows 8 has a much smaller footprint upfront. (8Gigs)

 

Which leads to my question. Has anyone had experience with using a windows 8 
based render farm vs a windows 7 one. I must admit I am more comfortable in 
windows 7, But having a much more optimised image is also a great thing when 
your doing a lot of deployments.

 

Kind regards

 

Angus



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Re: Windows 7 or 8

[Andres Stephens]

I use both W7 and W8 on a render my farm, my farm is like a motely crew of 
pirates, all random computers. =P 



-Draise



From: Angus Davidson
Sent: ‎Wednesday‎, ‎August‎ ‎21‎, ‎2013 ‎08‎:‎34‎ ‎
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com


Hi All




I am looking at imaging our render farm (mac mini's running bootcamp). I have a 
very nice workflow via win clone pro . I can using Apple Remote Desktop  pump 
out the images as mac packages  to any of the mac on the network and it 
automatically installs bootcamp and the windows therein. (I just need to change 
the machine name, and activate windows and I am good to go)




The only problem I have is that even for the base windows 7 install the 
uncompressed image is about 20Gigs in size.  Add the packages I need on it to 
render  and it grows again.




Windows 8 has a much smaller footprint upfront. (8Gigs)




Which leads to my question. Has anyone had experience with using a windows 8 
based render farm vs a windows 7 one. I must admit I am more comfortable in 
windows 7, But having a much more optimised image is also a great thing when 
your doing a lot of deployments.




Kind regards




Angus

 

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Re: Windows 7 or 8

[Luc-Eric Rousseau]

> Maybe to automate it a bit more or just for your convenience... Here's a
> batch script that deletes all user temp files, that resides after a load of
> installations. Folder pathes apply to XP and Win7.

that batch file doesn't really help much (and doesn't rebooting delete
the temp files?),  because it doesn't cleanup the folder that takes
gigabytes of storage (18 gig on my system), the c:\windows\winsxs,
mentionned earlier, or the windows restore points and service pack
backup files. there is a gui for doing the same work as that batch
file and more.

To delete the windows restore points run "cleanmgr.exe", let that scan
the disk, then go to the second tab of the UI at the bottom.  The
service pack backup files and temp file are on the first tab.

But more realistically, if a windows 8 image is already fine, just go
with that. :P

RE: Windows 7 or 8

[Sven Constable]

Maybe to automate it a bit more or just for your convenience... Here's a
batch script that deletes all user temp files, that resides after a load of
installations. Folder pathes apply to XP and Win7. I changed the extension
from .bat to .txt ín the case the list server does not allow .bat files. It
only deletes and recreates directories with temporary data. But you are
kindly requested to double check for correct folder pathes prior to running
it :)

sven
-Original Message-
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Sven Constable
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 4:11 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: RE: Windows 7 or 8

As Stefan said, delete and disable hibernation. No need for that on
rendernodes. I would set the pagefile to "system managed" what makes it
kinda small in the first place or set it manually to maybe a gig or so? But
don't disable it entirely, windows does need it even the machine has a huge
amount of RAM.

The image I use here (clean win7 installation with no applications
installed) is around 6.5GB in size. But compressed, i think.

sven

-Original Message-
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Angus Davidson
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 3:54 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Windows 7 or 8

Hi Stefan

Cleaned the trash/tmp folders, did all the chkdsk, and then ran sysprep.

I was surprised as well that it was that big. (This is on a volume license
installer - not sure if it makes a difference)

Kind Regards

Angus


On 2013/08/21 3:38 PM, "Stefan Kubicek"  wrote:

>I don't think there is anything that speaks against Win8 for use in 
>render farms, it's still strange you get such a huge image with Win7.
>Maybe there is a hidden hibernation file (always has the size of your 
>machines RAM) or excessive paging file that bloats it that much? Did 
>you delete files that might have remained on disk after installation?
>Did you clean the trash bin?
>
>
>> Hi All
>>
>> I am looking at imaging our render farm (mac mini's running bootcamp).
>>I have a very nice workflow via win clone pro . I can using Apple 
>>Remote Desktop  pump out the images as mac packages  to any of the mac 
>>on the network and it automatically installs bootcamp and the windows
therein.
>>(I just need to change the machine name, and activate windows and I am 
>>good to go)
>>
>> The only problem I have is that even for the base windows 7 install 
>>the uncompressed image is about 20Gigs in size.  Add the packages I 
>>need on it to render  and it grows again.
>>
>> Windows 8 has a much smaller footprint upfront. (8Gigs)
>>
>> Which leads to my question. Has anyone had experience with using a 
>>windows 8 based render farm vs a windows 7 one. I must admit I am more 
>>comfortable in windows 7, But having a much more optimised image is 
>>also a great thing when your doing a lot of deployments.
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> Angus
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RE: Windows 7 or 8

[Sven Constable]

As Stefan said, delete and disable hibernation. No need for that on
rendernodes. I would set the pagefile to "system managed" what makes it
kinda small in the first place or set it manually to maybe a gig or so? But
don't disable it entirely, windows does need it even the machine has a huge
amount of RAM.

The image I use here (clean win7 installation with no applications
installed) is around 6.5GB in size. But compressed, i think.

sven

-Original Message-
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Angus Davidson
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 3:54 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Windows 7 or 8

Hi Stefan

Cleaned the trash/tmp folders, did all the chkdsk, and then ran sysprep.

I was surprised as well that it was that big. (This is on a volume license
installer - not sure if it makes a difference)

Kind Regards

Angus


On 2013/08/21 3:38 PM, "Stefan Kubicek"  wrote:

>I don't think there is anything that speaks against Win8 for use in 
>render farms, it's still strange you get such a huge image with Win7.
>Maybe there is a hidden hibernation file (always has the size of your 
>machines RAM) or excessive paging file that bloats it that much? Did 
>you delete files that might have remained on disk after installation? 
>Did you clean the trash bin?
>
>
>> Hi All
>>
>> I am looking at imaging our render farm (mac mini's running bootcamp).
>>I have a very nice workflow via win clone pro . I can using Apple 
>>Remote Desktop  pump out the images as mac packages  to any of the mac 
>>on the network and it automatically installs bootcamp and the windows
therein.
>>(I just need to change the machine name, and activate windows and I am 
>>good to go)
>>
>> The only problem I have is that even for the base windows 7 install 
>>the uncompressed image is about 20Gigs in size.  Add the packages I 
>>need on it to render  and it grows again.
>>
>> Windows 8 has a much smaller footprint upfront. (8Gigs)
>>
>> Which leads to my question. Has anyone had experience with using a 
>>windows 8 based render farm vs a windows 7 one. I must admit I am more 
>>comfortable in windows 7, But having a much more optimised image is 
>>also a great thing when your doing a lot of deployments.
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> Angus
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Re: Windows 7 or 8

[Stefan Kubicek]

Software installs (dll-cache) and updates make it grow considerably. I don't remember the size of my fresh Win7 installation, but I doubt it was 18gb. Maybe I'm wrong...Just looked at my base Windows install at the vm at work and the C:\windows\ folder is 18GB. I guess Win7 is a little fat after years of updates.

On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Angus Davidson  wrote:

Hi Stefan

Cleaned the trash/tmp folders, did all the chkdsk, and then ran sysprep.

I was surprised as well that it was that big. (This is on a volume license
installer - not sure if it makes a difference)

Kind Regards

Angus


On 2013/08/21 3:38 PM, "Stefan Kubicek"  wrote:

>I don't think there is anything that speaks against Win8 for use in
>render farms, it's still strange you get such a huge image with Win7.
>Maybe there is a hidden hibernation file (always has the size of your
>machines RAM) or excessive paging file that bloats it that much? Did you
>delete files that might have remained on disk after installation? Did you
>clean the trash bin?
>
>
>> Hi All
>>
>> I am looking at imaging our render farm (mac mini's running bootcamp).
>>I have a very nice workflow via win clone pro . I can using Apple Remote
>>Desktop  pump out the images as mac packages  to any of the mac on the
>>network and it automatically installs bootcamp and the windows therein.
>>(I just need to change the machine name, and activate windows and I am
>>good to go)
>>
>> The only problem I have is that even for the base windows 7 install the
>>uncompressed image is about 20Gigs in size.  Add the packages I need on
>>it to render  and it grows again.
>>
>> Windows 8 has a much smaller footprint upfront. (8Gigs)
>>
>> Which leads to my question. Has anyone had experience with using a
>>windows 8 based render farm vs a windows 7 one. I must admit I am more
>>comfortable in windows 7, But having a much more optimised image is also
>>a great thing when your doing a lot of deployments.
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> Angus
>>
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Re: Windows 7 or 8

[Alan Fregtman]

Just looked at my base Windows install at the vm at work and the
C:\windows\ folder is 18GB. I guess Win7 is a little fat after years of
updates.



On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Angus Davidson
wrote:

> Hi Stefan
>
> Cleaned the trash/tmp folders, did all the chkdsk, and then ran sysprep.
>
> I was surprised as well that it was that big. (This is on a volume license
> installer - not sure if it makes a difference)
>
> Kind Regards
>
> Angus
>
>
> On 2013/08/21 3:38 PM, "Stefan Kubicek"  wrote:
>
> >I don't think there is anything that speaks against Win8 for use in
> >render farms, it's still strange you get such a huge image with Win7.
> >Maybe there is a hidden hibernation file (always has the size of your
> >machines RAM) or excessive paging file that bloats it that much? Did you
> >delete files that might have remained on disk after installation? Did you
> >clean the trash bin?
> >
> >
> >> Hi All
> >>
> >> I am looking at imaging our render farm (mac mini's running bootcamp).
> >>I have a very nice workflow via win clone pro . I can using Apple Remote
> >>Desktop  pump out the images as mac packages  to any of the mac on the
> >>network and it automatically installs bootcamp and the windows therein.
> >>(I just need to change the machine name, and activate windows and I am
> >>good to go)
> >>
> >> The only problem I have is that even for the base windows 7 install the
> >>uncompressed image is about 20Gigs in size.  Add the packages I need on
> >>it to render  and it grows again.
> >>
> >> Windows 8 has a much smaller footprint upfront. (8Gigs)
> >>
> >> Which leads to my question. Has anyone had experience with using a
> >>windows 8 based render farm vs a windows 7 one. I must admit I am more
> >>comfortable in windows 7, But having a much more optimised image is also
> >>a great thing when your doing a lot of deployments.
> >>
> >> Kind regards
> >>
> >> Angus
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Re: Windows 7 or 8

[Angus Davidson]

Hi Stefan

Cleaned the trash/tmp folders, did all the chkdsk, and then ran sysprep.

I was surprised as well that it was that big. (This is on a volume license
installer - not sure if it makes a difference)

Kind Regards

Angus


On 2013/08/21 3:38 PM, "Stefan Kubicek"  wrote:

>I don't think there is anything that speaks against Win8 for use in
>render farms, it's still strange you get such a huge image with Win7.
>Maybe there is a hidden hibernation file (always has the size of your
>machines RAM) or excessive paging file that bloats it that much? Did you
>delete files that might have remained on disk after installation? Did you
>clean the trash bin?
>
>
>> Hi All
>>
>> I am looking at imaging our render farm (mac mini's running bootcamp).
>>I have a very nice workflow via win clone pro . I can using Apple Remote
>>Desktop  pump out the images as mac packages  to any of the mac on the
>>network and it automatically installs bootcamp and the windows therein.
>>(I just need to change the machine name, and activate windows and I am
>>good to go)
>>
>> The only problem I have is that even for the base windows 7 install the
>>uncompressed image is about 20Gigs in size.  Add the packages I need on
>>it to render  and it grows again.
>>
>> Windows 8 has a much smaller footprint upfront. (8Gigs)
>>
>> Which leads to my question. Has anyone had experience with using a
>>windows 8 based render farm vs a windows 7 one. I must admit I am more
>>comfortable in windows 7, But having a much more optimised image is also
>>a great thing when your doing a lot of deployments.
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> Angus
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Re: Windows 7 or 8

[Stefan Kubicek]

I don't think there is anything that speaks against Win8 for use in render 
farms, it's still strange you get such a huge image with Win7. Maybe there is a 
hidden hibernation file (always has the size of your machines RAM) or excessive 
paging file that bloats it that much? Did you delete files that might have 
remained on disk after installation? Did you clean the trash bin?



Hi All

I am looking at imaging our render farm (mac mini's running bootcamp). I have a 
very nice workflow via win clone pro . I can using Apple Remote Desktop  pump 
out the images as mac packages  to any of the mac on the network and it 
automatically installs bootcamp and the windows therein. (I just need to change 
the machine name, and activate windows and I am good to go)

The only problem I have is that even for the base windows 7 install the 
uncompressed image is about 20Gigs in size.  Add the packages I need on it to 
render  and it grows again.

Windows 8 has a much smaller footprint upfront. (8Gigs)

Which leads to my question. Has anyone had experience with using a windows 8 
based render farm vs a windows 7 one. I must admit I am more comfortable in 
windows 7, But having a much more optimised image is also a great thing when 
your doing a lot of deployments.

Kind regards

Angus



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