Re: Centos6.6 install 2015SP1

[Jean-Louis Billard]

Hi Thomas, 

Well ultimately I won’t need to run it - it’s handled by Royal Render, but when 
testing in a terminal I am indeed switched to a tcsh session.

Thanks,

Jean-Louis
Digital Golem


> On 12 May 2015, at 15:16, Thomas Volkmann  wrote:
> 
> How do you run Softimage/Batch?  You should always use tcsh or csh...
> You could also try to replace the whole mainwin folder with the one from the 
> working 2012 installation and see if it runs then. 
>  
>> Jean-Louis Billard mailto:jean-lo...@photon3.com>> 
>> hat am 12. Mai 2015 um 14:16 geschrieben:
>> 
>> Hi Thomas,
>>  
>> Basically:
>>  
>> ===
>>  Autodesk Softimage 13.1.140.0
>> ===
>>  
>> Aborted (core dumped)
>>  
>>  
>> I also tried installing 2011SP1, 2012 and 2014SP1.
>> The problem only appears with 2014SP1 and 2015SP1, previous versions are ok 
>> (I don’t have a 2013 installer so I didn’t check)
>>  
>> The /etc/hosts file issue, I remember that now that you mention it. 
>> Wasn’t it something to do with it needing to be formatted for csh rather 
>> than bash, or something of the sort?
>> I’ll dig down there a bit…
>>  
>> Thanks,
>>  
>> Jean-Louis
>> Digital Golem
>>  
>> 
>>> On 11 May 2015, at 18:48, Thomas Volkmann >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> What error are you getting on startup/xsibatch? There has been an issue 
>>> with a wrongly formatted /etc/hosts file that caused segmentation 
>>> faults...just a shot in the dark
>>>  
 Jean-Louis Billard >>> > hat am 11. Mai 2015 um 16:10 geschrieben:
 
 I would love to ignore it, but alas I still get a core dump when running 
 xsibatch!
  
 Looking around I’m finding some people talking about updating OGL drivers, 
 some discussing the Xorg.conf file, and yet more mentioning kernel tweaks. 
 It’s tricky to guess the best route…
  
 Jean-Louis
  
 Digital Golem
  
  
 
> On 11 May 2015, at 15:56, Stephen Blair  > wrote:
> 
> I had the same error but I ignored it, just to see if Softimage would 
> start (and it did).
>  
> SAS is a set of DisplayCallbacks for OpenGL and DirectX
>  
> 
> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 9:19 AM, Jean-Louis Billard 
> mailto:jean-lo...@photon3.com>> wrote:
> Hi Stephen,
>  
> So I tried, but for some reason only the first line runs ok. The second 
> one spurts this:
>  
> > ./Application/bin/cmdreg -f "Application/Plugins/PLUGINSCOMDLLs.lst”
> 
> Loading ../Plugins/libSAS.so:  Unable to load library (Error code 126: 
> The specified module could not be found).  Running REGSVR32.EXE may 
> provide more information
>  
> libSAS.so is present in /Plugins, so I’m not sure what’s going on…?
>  
>  
> Maybe I should roll back to Centos 6.2, which seems to be the officially 
> supported version for Soft2015_SP1?
>  
> Thanks for any help.
>  
>  
> Jean-Louis
>  
> Digital Golem
> 
>> On 7 May 2015, at 22:11, Stephen Blair > > wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 1:40 PM, Jean-Louis Billard 
>> mailto:jean-lo...@photon3.com>> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> The installer for 2015SP1 tells me that Softimage was not installed 
>> properly and the log shows these culprits:
>> 
>> Error: Application/bin/cmdreg -f "Application/bin/XSICOMDLLs.lst"
>> Error: Application/bin/cmdreg -f "Application/Plugins/PLUGINSCOMDLLs.lst”
>>  
>>  
>> Try running those commands yourself. On CentOS 6.5, I was getting a core 
>> dump until I ran them.

Re: Centos6.6 install 2015SP1

[Markus Cermak]

Hi

A shot in the dark but , when we install Softimage on our renderblades 
(centOs befor and now I think kubuntu) we rename the X11 folder 
(terminal) as soon as the setup creates it (that means while the 
installer is still running) and it will complete the setup with the 
"Installed successful with no errors" msg.


If we don´t to that we get Install errors in the log.

But!! I dont run the GUI there that's purely for batch rendering so idk 
if it will work for Interactive sessions.

It starts but I never "worked" on it.

On 12/05/2015 15:16, Thomas Volkmann wrote:

How do you run Softimage/Batch?  You should always use tcsh or csh...
You could also try to replace the whole mainwin folder with the one 
from the working 2012 installation and see if it runs then.
Jean-Louis Billard  hat am 12. Mai 2015 um 
14:16 geschrieben:


Hi Thomas,
Basically:

===
 Autodesk Softimage 13.1.140.0
===
Aborted (core dumped)

I also tried installing 2011SP1, 2012 and 2014SP1.
The problem only appears with 2014SP1 and 2015SP1, previous versions 
are ok (I don’t have a 2013 installer so I didn’t check)

The /etc/hosts file issue, I remember that now that you mention it.
Wasn’t it something to do with it needing to be formatted for csh 
rather than bash, or something of the sort?

I’ll dig down there a bit…
Thanks,
Jean-Louis
Digital Golem

On 11 May 2015, at 18:48, Thomas Volkmann > wrote:


What error are you getting on startup/xsibatch? There has been an 
issue with a wrongly formatted /etc/hosts file that caused 
segmentation faults...just a shot in the dark
Jean-Louis Billard > hat am 11. Mai 2015 um 16:10 
geschrieben:


I would love to ignore it, but alas I still get a core dump when 
running xsibatch!
Looking around I’m finding some people talking about updating OGL 
drivers, some discussing the Xorg.conf file, and yet more 
mentioning kernel tweaks. It’s tricky to guess the best route…

Jean-Louis
Digital Golem

On 11 May 2015, at 15:56, Stephen Blair > wrote:


I had the same error but I ignored it, just to see if Softimage 
would start (and it did).

SAS is a set of DisplayCallbacks for OpenGL and DirectX

On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 9:19 AM, Jean-Louis 
Billardmailto:jean-lo...@photon3.com>>wrote:


Hi Stephen,
So I tried, but for some reason only the first line runs ok.
The second one spurts this:
> ./Application/bin/cmdreg -f
"Application/Plugins/PLUGINSCOMDLLs.lst”

Loading ../Plugins/libSAS.so: Unable to load library (Error
code 126: The specified module could not be found).  Running
REGSVR32.EXE may provide more information
libSAS.so is present in /Plugins, so I’m not sure what’s going
on…?
Maybe I should roll back to Centos 6.2, which seems to be the
officially supported version for Soft2015_SP1?
Thanks for any help.
Jean-Louis
Digital Golem


On 7 May 2015, at 22:11, Stephen Blair
mailto:stephenrbl...@gmail.com>> wrote:



On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 1:40 PM, Jean-Louis
Billardmailto:jean-lo...@photon3.com>>wrote:

Hi all,

The installer for 2015SP1 tells me that Softimage was not
installed properly and the log shows these culprits:

Error: Application/bin/cmdreg -f
"Application/bin/XSICOMDLLs.lst"
Error: Application/bin/cmdreg -f
"Application/Plugins/PLUGINSCOMDLLs.lst”

Try running those commands yourself. On CentOS 6.5, I was
getting a core dump until I ran them.






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Re: Centos6.6 install 2015SP1

[Thomas Volkmann]

How do you run Softimage/Batch?  You should always use tcsh or csh...
You could also try to replace the whole mainwin folder with the one from the
working 2012 installation and see if it runs then. 
 

> Jean-Louis Billard  hat am 12. Mai 2015 um 14:16
> geschrieben:
> 
>  Hi Thomas,
>   
>  Basically:
>   > >
> >   ===
> >Autodesk Softimage 13.1.140.0
> >   ===
> >
> >   Aborted (core dumped)
> >
> >  >   
>  I also tried installing 2011SP1, 2012 and 2014SP1.
>  The problem only appears with 2014SP1 and 2015SP1, previous versions are ok
> (I don’t have a 2013 installer so I didn’t check)
>   
>  The /etc/hosts file issue, I remember that now that you mention it. 
>  Wasn’t it something to do with it needing to be formatted for csh rather than
> bash, or something of the sort?
>  I’ll dig down there a bit…
>   
>  Thanks,
>   
>  Jean-Louis
>  Digital Golem
>   
> 
> 
>  > >  On 11 May 2015, at 18:48, Thomas Volkmann
>  > > mailto:li...@thomasvolkmann.com> > wrote:
> > 
> >  What error are you getting on startup/xsibatch? There has been an issue
> > with a wrongly formatted /etc/hosts file that caused segmentation
> > faults...just a shot in the dark
> >   
> > 
> >   > > > Jean-Louis Billard  >   > > >  > hat am 11. Mai 2015 um 16:10
> >   > > > geschrieben:
> > > 
> > >   I would love to ignore it, but alas I still get a core dump when
> > > running xsibatch!
> > >
> > >   Looking around I’m finding some people talking about updating OGL
> > > drivers, some discussing the Xorg.conf file, and yet more mentioning
> > > kernel tweaks. It’s tricky to guess the best route…
> > >
> > >   Jean-Louis
> > >
> > >   Digital Golem
> > >
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   > > > >   On 11 May 2015, at 15:56, Stephen Blair
> > >   > > > >  > >   > > > >  > wrote:
> > > > 
> > > >   I had the same error but I ignored it, just to see if
> > > > Softimage would start (and it did).
> > > >
> > > >   SAS is a set of DisplayCallbacks for OpenGL and DirectX
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > >   On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 9:19 AM, Jean-Louis Billard
> > > > mailto:jean-lo...@photon3.com> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Hi Stephen,
> > > > >  
> > > > > So I tried, but for some reason only the first line runs
> > > > > ok. The second one spurts this:
> > > > >  
> > > > > > ./Application/bin/cmdreg -f
> > > > > > "Application/Plugins/PLUGINSCOMDLLs.lst”
> > > > > 
> > > > > Loading ../Plugins/libSAS.so:  Unable to load library
> > > > > (Error code 126: The specified module could not be found).  Running
> > > > > REGSVR32.EXE may provide more information
> > > > >  
> > > > > libSAS.so is present in /Plugins, so I’m not sure what’s
> > > > > going on…?
> > > > >  
> > > > >  
> > > > > Maybe I should roll back to Centos 6.2, which seems to be
> > > > > the officially supported version for Soft2015_SP1?
> > > > >  
> > > > > Thanks for any help.
> > > > >  
> > > > >  
> > > > > Jean-Louis
> > > > >  
> > > > > Digital Golem
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > On 7 May 2015, at 22:11,
> > > > > > > > > > > Stephen Blair  > > > > > > > > > >  > wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 1:40 PM, Jean-Louis Billard
> > > > > > mailto:jean-lo...@photon3.com> > wrote:
> > > > > >   > > > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >   The installer for 2015SP1 tells me that
> > > > > > > Softimage was not installed properly and the log shows these
> > > > > > > culprits:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >   Error: Application/bin/cmdreg -f
> > > > > > > "Application/bin/XSICOMDLLs.lst"
> > > > > > >   Error: Application/bin/cmdreg -f
> > > > > > > "Application/Plugins/PLUGINSCOMDLLs.lst”
> > > > > > > > > > > > >  
> > > > > >  
> > > > > > Try running those commands yourself. On CentOS 6.5,
> > > > > > I was getting a core dump until I ran them.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > >   > > > > 
> > > >   > > > 
> > >  > > 
> >  > 

Re: Centos6.6 install 2015SP1

[Jean-Louis Billard]

Hi Thomas,

Basically:

===
 Autodesk Softimage 13.1.140.0
===

Aborted (core dumped)


I also tried installing 2011SP1, 2012 and 2014SP1.
The problem only appears with 2014SP1 and 2015SP1, previous versions are ok (I 
don’t have a 2013 installer so I didn’t check)

The /etc/hosts file issue, I remember that now that you mention it. 
Wasn’t it something to do with it needing to be formatted for csh rather than 
bash, or something of the sort?
I’ll dig down there a bit…

Thanks,

Jean-Louis
Digital Golem


> On 11 May 2015, at 18:48, Thomas Volkmann  wrote:
> 
> What error are you getting on startup/xsibatch? There has been an issue with 
> a wrongly formatted /etc/hosts file that caused segmentation faults...just a 
> shot in the dark
>  
>> Jean-Louis Billard mailto:jean-lo...@photon3.com>> 
>> hat am 11. Mai 2015 um 16:10 geschrieben:
>> 
>> I would love to ignore it, but alas I still get a core dump when running 
>> xsibatch!
>>  
>> Looking around I’m finding some people talking about updating OGL drivers, 
>> some discussing the Xorg.conf file, and yet more mentioning kernel tweaks. 
>> It’s tricky to guess the best route…
>>  
>> Jean-Louis
>>  
>> Digital Golem
>>  
>>  
>> 
>>> On 11 May 2015, at 15:56, Stephen Blair >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I had the same error but I ignored it, just to see if Softimage would start 
>>> (and it did).
>>>  
>>> SAS is a set of DisplayCallbacks for OpenGL and DirectX
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 9:19 AM, Jean-Louis Billard >> > wrote:
>>> Hi Stephen,
>>>  
>>> So I tried, but for some reason only the first line runs ok. The second one 
>>> spurts this:
>>>  
>>> > ./Application/bin/cmdreg -f "Application/Plugins/PLUGINSCOMDLLs.lst”
>>> 
>>> Loading ../Plugins/libSAS.so:  Unable to load library (Error code 126: The 
>>> specified module could not be found).  Running REGSVR32.EXE may provide 
>>> more information
>>>  
>>> libSAS.so is present in /Plugins, so I’m not sure what’s going on…?
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Maybe I should roll back to Centos 6.2, which seems to be the officially 
>>> supported version for Soft2015_SP1?
>>>  
>>> Thanks for any help.
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Jean-Louis
>>>  
>>> Digital Golem
>>> 
 On 7 May 2015, at 22:11, Stephen Blair >>> > wrote:
 
 
 
 On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 1:40 PM, Jean-Louis Billard >>> > wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 The installer for 2015SP1 tells me that Softimage was not installed 
 properly and the log shows these culprits:
 
 Error: Application/bin/cmdreg -f "Application/bin/XSICOMDLLs.lst"
 Error: Application/bin/cmdreg -f "Application/Plugins/PLUGINSCOMDLLs.lst”
  
  
 Try running those commands yourself. On CentOS 6.5, I was getting a core 
 dump until I ran them.

Re: Centos6.6 install 2015SP1

[Thomas Volkmann]

What error are you getting on startup/xsibatch? There has been an issue with a
wrongly formatted /etc/hosts file that caused segmentation faults...just a shot
in the dark
 

> Jean-Louis Billard  hat am 11. Mai 2015 um 16:10
> geschrieben:
> 
>  I would love to ignore it, but alas I still get a core dump when running
> xsibatch!
>   
>  Looking around I’m finding some people talking about updating OGL drivers,
> some discussing the Xorg.conf file, and yet more mentioning kernel tweaks.
> It’s tricky to guess the best route…
>   
>  Jean-Louis
>   
>  Digital Golem
>   
>   
> 
> 
>  > >  On 11 May 2015, at 15:56, Stephen Blair   > >  > wrote:
> > 
> >  I had the same error but I ignored it, just to see if Softimage would
> > start (and it did).
> >   
> >  SAS is a set of DisplayCallbacks for OpenGL and DirectX
> >   
> > 
> >  On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 9:19 AM, Jean-Louis Billard
> > mailto:jean-lo...@photon3.com> > wrote:
> >> > >Hi Stephen,
> > > 
> > >So I tried, but for some reason only the first line runs ok. The
> > > second one spurts this:
> > > 
> > >> ./Application/bin/cmdreg -f
> > >> "Application/Plugins/PLUGINSCOMDLLs.lst”
> > > 
> > >Loading ../Plugins/libSAS.so:  Unable to load library (Error code
> > > 126: The specified module could not be found).  Running REGSVR32.EXE may
> > > provide more information
> > > 
> > >libSAS.so is present in /Plugins, so I’m not sure what’s going on…?
> > > 
> > > 
> > >Maybe I should roll back to Centos 6.2, which seems to be the
> > > officially supported version for Soft2015_SP1?
> > > 
> > >Thanks for any help.
> > > 
> > > 
> > >Jean-Louis
> > > 
> > >Digital Golem
> > > 
> > > 
> > >> > > >On 7 May 2015, at 22:11, Stephen Blair
> > >> > > >  > >> > > >  > wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 1:40 PM, Jean-Louis Billard
> > > > mailto:jean-lo...@photon3.com> > wrote:
> > > >  > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > 
> > > > >  The installer for 2015SP1 tells me that Softimage was not
> > > > > installed properly and the log shows these culprits:
> > > > > 
> > > > >  Error: Application/bin/cmdreg -f
> > > > > "Application/bin/XSICOMDLLs.lst"
> > > > >  Error: Application/bin/cmdreg -f
> > > > > "Application/Plugins/PLUGINSCOMDLLs.lst”
> > > > >> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >Try running those commands yourself. On CentOS 6.5, I was
> > > > getting a core dump until I ran them.
> > > > 
> > > >> > >  > > 
> >  > 

Re: Centos6.6 install 2015SP1

[Jean-Louis Billard]

I would love to ignore it, but alas I still get a core dump when running 
xsibatch!

Looking around I’m finding some people talking about updating OGL drivers, some 
discussing the Xorg.conf file, and yet more mentioning kernel tweaks. It’s 
tricky to guess the best route…

Jean-Louis

Digital Golem



> On 11 May 2015, at 15:56, Stephen Blair  wrote:
> 
> I had the same error but I ignored it, just to see if Softimage would start 
> (and it did).
> 
> SAS is a set of DisplayCallbacks for OpenGL and DirectX
> 
> 
> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 9:19 AM, Jean-Louis Billard  > wrote:
> Hi Stephen,
> 
> So I tried, but for some reason only the first line runs ok. The second one 
> spurts this:
> 
> > ./Application/bin/cmdreg -f "Application/Plugins/PLUGINSCOMDLLs.lst”
> 
> Loading ../Plugins/libSAS.so:  Unable to load library (Error code 126: The 
> specified module could not be found).  Running REGSVR32.EXE may provide more 
> information
> 
> libSAS.so is present in /Plugins, so I’m not sure what’s going on…?
> 
> 
> Maybe I should roll back to Centos 6.2, which seems to be the officially 
> supported version for Soft2015_SP1?
> 
> Thanks for any help.
> 
> 
> Jean-Louis
> 
> Digital Golem
> 
>> On 7 May 2015, at 22:11, Stephen Blair > > wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 1:40 PM, Jean-Louis Billard > > wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> The installer for 2015SP1 tells me that Softimage was not installed properly 
>> and the log shows these culprits:
>> 
>> Error: Application/bin/cmdreg -f "Application/bin/XSICOMDLLs.lst"
>> Error: Application/bin/cmdreg -f "Application/Plugins/PLUGINSCOMDLLs.lst”
>> 
>> 
>> Try running those commands yourself. On CentOS 6.5, I was getting a core 
>> dump until I ran them.
> 
> 

Re: Centos6.6 install 2015SP1

[Stephen Blair]

I had the same error but I ignored it, just to see if Softimage would start
(and it did).

SAS is a set of DisplayCallbacks for OpenGL and DirectX


On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 9:19 AM, Jean-Louis Billard 
wrote:

> Hi Stephen,
>
> So I tried, but for some reason only the first line runs ok. The second
> one spurts this:
>
> > ./Application/bin/cmdreg -f "Application/Plugins/PLUGINSCOMDLLs.lst”
>
> Loading ../Plugins/libSAS.so:  Unable to load library (Error code 126: The
> specified module could not be found).  Running REGSVR32.EXE may provide
> more information
>
> libSAS.so is present in /Plugins, so I’m not sure what’s going on…?
>
>
> Maybe I should roll back to Centos 6.2, which seems to be the officially
> supported version for Soft2015_SP1?
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
>
> Jean-Louis
>
> Digital Golem
>
> On 7 May 2015, at 22:11, Stephen Blair  wrote:
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 1:40 PM, Jean-Louis Billard  > wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> The installer for 2015SP1 tells me that Softimage was not installed
>> properly and the log shows these culprits:
>>
>> Error: Application/bin/cmdreg -f "Application/bin/XSICOMDLLs.lst"
>> Error: Application/bin/cmdreg -f "Application/Plugins/PLUGINSCOMDLLs.lst”
>>
>
>
> Try running those commands yourself. On CentOS 6.5, I was getting a core
> dump until I ran them.
>
>
>

Re: Centos6.6 install 2015SP1

[Jean-Louis Billard]

Hi Stephen,

So I tried, but for some reason only the first line runs ok. The second one 
spurts this:

> ./Application/bin/cmdreg -f "Application/Plugins/PLUGINSCOMDLLs.lst”

Loading ../Plugins/libSAS.so:  Unable to load library (Error code 126: The 
specified module could not be found).  Running REGSVR32.EXE may provide more 
information

libSAS.so is present in /Plugins, so I’m not sure what’s going on…?


Maybe I should roll back to Centos 6.2, which seems to be the officially 
supported version for Soft2015_SP1?

Thanks for any help.


Jean-Louis

Digital Golem

> On 7 May 2015, at 22:11, Stephen Blair  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 1:40 PM, Jean-Louis Billard  > wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> The installer for 2015SP1 tells me that Softimage was not installed properly 
> and the log shows these culprits:
> 
> Error: Application/bin/cmdreg -f "Application/bin/XSICOMDLLs.lst"
> Error: Application/bin/cmdreg -f "Application/Plugins/PLUGINSCOMDLLs.lst”
> 
> 
> Try running those commands yourself. On CentOS 6.5, I was getting a core dump 
> until I ran them.

Re: Centos6.6 install 2015SP1

[Jean-Louis Billard]

Thanks for the tip - I’ll try tomorrow when I’m back in the office.

Cheers,

Jean-Louis
Digital Golem


> On 7 May 2015, at 22:11, Stephen Blair  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 1:40 PM, Jean-Louis Billard  > wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> The installer for 2015SP1 tells me that Softimage was not installed properly 
> and the log shows these culprits:
> 
> Error: Application/bin/cmdreg -f "Application/bin/XSICOMDLLs.lst"
> Error: Application/bin/cmdreg -f "Application/Plugins/PLUGINSCOMDLLs.lst”
> 
> 
> Try running those commands yourself. On CentOS 6.5, I was getting a core dump 
> until I ran them.

Re: Centos6.6 install 2015SP1

[Stephen Blair]

On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 1:40 PM, Jean-Louis Billard 
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> The installer for 2015SP1 tells me that Softimage was not installed
> properly and the log shows these culprits:
>
> Error: Application/bin/cmdreg -f "Application/bin/XSICOMDLLs.lst"
> Error: Application/bin/cmdreg -f "Application/Plugins/PLUGINSCOMDLLs.lst”
>


Try running those commands yourself. On CentOS 6.5, I was getting a core
dump until I ran them.