Re: EOL showreel (again)

2014-09-26 Thread Jason S

  
  
I heard you can't use more than 10% (?)
  but this is the most specific (and simple) info I could find. 
  But generally, you cant (re-)use things or parts to sell products,
  and sources need to be clear,
  http://www.cmsimpact.org/fair-use/best-practices/code-best-practices-fair-use-online-video#common
  
  FIVE: Copying, restoring, and recirculating a work or part of
a work for purposes of launching a discussion 
  Online video contributors often
  copy and post a work or part of it because they love or
  hate it, or find it exemplary of something they love or
  hate, or see it as the center of an existing debate. 
They want to share that work or portion
of a work because they have a connection to it and want to
spur a discussion about it based on that connection. These
works can be, among other things, cultural (Worst Music
Video Ever!, a controversial comedian's performance),
political (a campaign appearance or ad), social or
educational (a public service announcement).
  
  
  On 09/24/14 16:52, Jason S wrote:

Not as
  if there is a shortage of softies that worked on recognizable
  things here :)
  
  
  On 09/24/14 15:21, Jason S wrote:
  
  At least we don't necessarily need tons of
material to make a catchy edit, but I think it's that I would
have liked to have stuff in there that people could actually
recognize or have some the "greatest hits" done in Softmage in a
"fan-made" collection clip.


On 09/24/14 13:46, Eric Thivierge wrote:

This is just like the Reels that AD /
  Avid used to do for Softimage. Companies would submit stuff
  then there was process for verifying rights and all that. It
  was handled by someone who was paid to do it. I don't see this
  happening if it's not through AD. And we can all assume they
  won't care much to do it. They haven't thus far.
  
  
  Eric T.
  
  
  On Wednesday, September 24, 2014 12:20:10 PM, Leendert A.
  Hartog wrote:
  
  Again, true, but a showreel like I
envision should be made with every

possible care concerning permissions.

This isn't meant as ordinary YouTube fodder.


  
  


  
  


  



Re: EOL showreel (again)

2014-09-24 Thread Jason S
Not as if there is a shortage of softies that worked on recognizable 
things here :)


On 09/24/14 15:21, Jason S wrote:
At least we don't necessarily need tons of material to make a catchy 
edit, but I think it's that I would have liked to have stuff in there 
that people could actually recognize or have some the "greatest hits" 
done in Softmage in a "fan-made" collection clip.


On 09/24/14 13:46, Eric Thivierge wrote:
This is just like the Reels that AD / Avid used to do for Softimage. 
Companies would submit stuff then there was process for verifying 
rights and all that. It was handled by someone who was paid to do it. 
I don't see this happening if it's not through AD. And we can all 
assume they won't care much to do it. They haven't thus far.


Eric T.

On Wednesday, September 24, 2014 12:20:10 PM, Leendert A. Hartog wrote:

Again, true, but a showreel like I envision should be made with every
possible care concerning permissions.
This isn't meant as ordinary YouTube fodder.









Re: EOL showreel (again)

2014-09-24 Thread Jason S
At least we don't necessarily need tons of material to make a catchy 
edit, but I think it's that I would have liked to have stuff in there 
that people could actually recognize or have some the "greatest hits" 
done in Softmage in a "fan-made" collection clip.


On 09/24/14 13:46, Eric Thivierge wrote:
This is just like the Reels that AD / Avid used to do for Softimage. 
Companies would submit stuff then there was process for verifying 
rights and all that. It was handled by someone who was paid to do it. 
I don't see this happening if it's not through AD. And we can all 
assume they won't care much to do it. They haven't thus far.


Eric T.

On Wednesday, September 24, 2014 12:20:10 PM, Leendert A. Hartog wrote:

Again, true, but a showreel like I envision should be made with every
possible care concerning permissions.
This isn't meant as ordinary YouTube fodder.







Re: EOL showreel (again)

2014-09-24 Thread Leendert A. Hartog

Sent this to Eric directly first. Oops!

Okay, that would mean a strategic "rethinking" of the whole plan...

Greetz
Leendert

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Re: EOL showreel (again)

2014-09-24 Thread Eric Thivierge
This is just like the Reels that AD / Avid used to do for Softimage. 
Companies would submit stuff then there was process for verifying 
rights and all that. It was handled by someone who was paid to do it. I 
don't see this happening if it's not through AD. And we can all assume 
they won't care much to do it. They haven't thus far.


Eric T.

On Wednesday, September 24, 2014 12:20:10 PM, Leendert A. Hartog wrote:

Again, true, but a showreel like I envision should be made with every
possible care concerning permissions.
This isn't meant as ordinary YouTube fodder.





Re: EOL showreel (again)

2014-09-24 Thread Leendert A. Hartog
Again, true, but a showreel like I envision should be made with every 
possible care concerning permissions.

This isn't meant as ordinary YouTube fodder.

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Re: EOL showreel (again)

2014-09-24 Thread Luc-Eric Rousseau
It's actually trivial for you or any individual not working for a
studio to put together a video on youtube that's a collection of any
clip you want.  People do it all the time.
Nearly impossible if you're part of the chain that had anything to do
with any of the clips.

On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 12:02 PM, Leendert A. Hartog  wrote:
> Luc-Eric Rousseau schreef op 24-9-2014 17:52:
>>
>> Perhaps because most people on this list don't own the content they
>> make with Softimage
>>
> True, but from my POV they are probably a lot closer to the actual owners
> than I am... ;)


Re: EOL showreel (again)

2014-09-24 Thread Leendert A. Hartog

Luc-Eric Rousseau schreef op 24-9-2014 17:52:

Perhaps because most people on this list don't own the content they
make with Softimage

True, but from my POV they are probably a lot closer to the actual 
owners than I am... ;)


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Re: EOL showreel (again)

2014-09-24 Thread David Gallagher


If this gets off the ground, we'd be happy to provide tons of material 
with AnimSchool's Malcolm rig, made in Softimage.
Most people use it in Maya, but it was all authored in Softimage first 
and converted.



On 9/24/2014 4:27 AM, Leendert A. Hartog wrote:

Well, I'm not particularly versed in Mailing List parlance,
but I take this as a resounding "don't bother".
;)

Greetz
Leendert





Re: EOL showreel (again)

2014-09-24 Thread Luc-Eric Rousseau
Perhaps because most people on this list don't own the content they
make with Softimage

On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 6:27 AM, Leendert A. Hartog  wrote:
> Well, I'm not particularly versed in Mailing List parlance,
> but I take this as a resounding "don't bother".
> ;)


Re: EOL showreel (again)

2014-09-24 Thread Leendert A. Hartog

Thanks for the positive words!
Problem is that you'd obviously need the cooperation/consent of the 
content producers and their help figuring out what's recent enough.


Greetz
Leendert

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Re: EOL showreel (again)

2014-09-24 Thread Andres Stephens
Not too versed in the lingo either, but… just go for it. Popular vote shouldn’t 
always go before artistic value and expression and ability - or even just 
memory and a way of archiving? If all else fails - and you get the permission 
from those who made the content - just edit it and put some cool track like the 
ones below to it and it would be neat to just have floating around there - just 
so  I’d like to laugh at my Maya using friends and show them the reel over and 
over again. Then cry in-front of their eyes.  haha  






-Draise

Ph: +57 313 811 6821





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Well, I'm not particularly versed in Mailing List parlance,
but I take this as a resounding "don't bother".
;)

Greetz
Leendert

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Administrator NOT the owner of si-community.com

Re: EOL showreel (again)

2014-09-24 Thread Leendert A. Hartog

Well, I'm not particularly versed in Mailing List parlance,
but I take this as a resounding "don't bother".
;)

Greetz
Leendert

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Re: EOL showreel (again)

2014-09-23 Thread Sebastien Sterling
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhbliUq0_r4

or this and someone can ad an AD logo on top of the oil spill

On 23 September 2014 19:32, Ed Harriss  wrote:

>  Or this!
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBJ3B8iqHp8
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> Ed
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> *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:
> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Sebastien Sterling
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 23, 2014 12:17 PM
> *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> *Subject:* Re: EOL showreel (again)
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> So long as it is set to this:
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4h7NGMz2RI
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> On 23 September 2014 17:12, Jason S  wrote:
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> I see what your saying, but no need to include everything, just the really
> nice things.
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> .. well actually that does narrow it down to almost everything lol
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> On 09/23/14 11:20, Leendert A. Hartog wrote:
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> I fear that once you drop the post-"retirement" clause, it would quickly
> become an unmanageable beast.
> Could be mistaken, though (and at this point nothing's set in stone, yet).
>
> Greetz
> Leendert
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RE: EOL showreel (again)

2014-09-23 Thread Ed Harriss
Or this!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBJ3B8iqHp8


Ed

From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
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Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 12:17 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: EOL showreel (again)

So long as it is set to this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4h7NGMz2RI

On 23 September 2014 17:12, Jason S 
mailto:jasonsta...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I see what your saying, but no need to include everything, just the really nice 
things.

.. well actually that does narrow it down to almost everything lol


On 09/23/14 11:20, Leendert A. Hartog wrote:
I fear that once you drop the post-"retirement" clause, it would quickly become 
an unmanageable beast.
Could be mistaken, though (and at this point nothing's set in stone, yet).

Greetz
Leendert




Re: EOL showreel (again)

2014-09-23 Thread Sebastien Sterling
So long as it is set to this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4h7NGMz2RI

On 23 September 2014 17:12, Jason S  wrote:

> I see what your saying, but no need to include everything, just the really
> nice things.
>
> .. well actually that does narrow it down to almost everything lol
>
>
> On 09/23/14 11:20, Leendert A. Hartog wrote:
>
>> I fear that once you drop the post-"retirement" clause, it would quickly
>> become an unmanageable beast.
>> Could be mistaken, though (and at this point nothing's set in stone, yet).
>>
>> Greetz
>> Leendert
>>
>>
>


Re: EOL showreel (again)

2014-09-23 Thread Jason S
I see what your saying, but no need to include everything, just the 
really nice things.


.. well actually that does narrow it down to almost everything lol

On 09/23/14 11:20, Leendert A. Hartog wrote:
I fear that once you drop the post-"retirement" clause, it would 
quickly become an unmanageable beast.
Could be mistaken, though (and at this point nothing's set in stone, 
yet).


Greetz
Leendert





Re: EOL showreel (again)

2014-09-23 Thread Leendert A. Hartog
I fear that once you drop the post-"retirement" clause, it would quickly 
become an unmanageable beast.

Could be mistaken, though (and at this point nothing's set in stone, yet).

Greetz
Leendert

--

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Administrator NOT the owner of si-community.com



Re: EOL showreel (again)

2014-09-23 Thread Jason S

  
  
It would be easy to make an edit (with
  credits on each shot) from the "Great things made with Softimage"
  thread, softimage.tv and or the ICE vimeo page. You talked about
  more recent things, but it could also include some of the
  "classics" like some "wouldn't it be cool" & some car parts
  that come to mind ;]
  
  On 09/23/14 6:18, Leendert A. Hartog wrote:


  
  
  This has been discussed before and I do not claim
  to have thought of this originally, but if nobody picks this
  up, It definitively won’t get done.
  Okay, here goes: would it be
  possible/feasible/desirable to try to create a sort of “EOL
  showreel”, specifically highlighting works from the wonderful
  world of Softimage after the “retirement”? 
  This obviously can only work given enough
  participation/contribution by "all"
  (read: many) parties involved.
  The idea was to get such an “EOL showreel” ready
  for the first anniversary of the “retirement”, which would
  give us about six months.
  While I am more than willing to somehow
  coordinate this, should the need arise, I don’t want to be
  solely responsible for the final product of this effort, 
  as my showreel making skills are zero and my judgment as  a hobbyist might not be
  up to the task either. 
  So, if this were to go forward, any help setting this up and
  seeing it through would be much appreciated.

  Greetz
Leendert

  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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