Re: Re: correct format for the md5 files?

2006-12-08 Thread Mike Klaas

On 12/8/06, Simon Willnauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Oh by the way I do have 2 people in this room being able to find
collisions to md5 within the next 15 minutes. But it is true that this
is quiet hypothetical .

anyway...


Can they also produce a malicious distribution of solr which hashes
identically? g.

It _is_ a valid concern in general (I would never use md5 as a
cryptographic hash, e.g., for passwords), but significantly less of a
concern for this use.  The most important role of the hash is to
ensure no corruption occurred during transfer.

cheers,
-Mike


Re: Re: correct format for the md5 files?

2006-12-08 Thread Chris Hostetter

: It _is_ a valid concern in general (I would never use md5 as a
: cryptographic hash, e.g., for passwords), but significantly less of a
: concern for this use.  The most important role of the hash is to
: ensure no corruption occurred during transfer.

Bingo:  We checksum the files with MD5, we sign the files with GPG



-Hoss



Re: Re: correct format for the md5 files?

2006-12-08 Thread Yonik Seeley

On 12/8/06, Chris Hostetter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

: It _is_ a valid concern in general (I would never use md5 as a
: cryptographic hash, e.g., for passwords), but significantly less of a
: concern for this use.  The most important role of the hash is to
: ensure no corruption occurred during transfer.

Bingo:  We checksum the files with MD5, we sign the files with GPG


And the standard digital signature content hash is defined to be SHA-1
AFAIK.  And yes, someone has managed to find a way to get collisions
in SHA1 hashes in less time than it would take to purely guess at
random.  But let's be serious... for our projects it's going to be far
easier and cheaper to circumvent the encryption than break it.

When PGP/GPG switch to a different mechanism by default, so will we.

-Yonik