Evaluating a SOLR index with trec_eval

2013-10-30 Thread Michael Preminger
Hello!

Is there a simple way to evaluate a SOLR index with TREC_EVAL?
I mean: 
*  preparing a query file in some format Solr will understand, but where each 
query has an ID
* getting results out in trec format, with these query IDs attached

Thanks

Michael


SV: Evaluating a SOLR index with trec_eval

2013-10-30 Thread Michael Preminger
Hi, Tom!
Thanks alot. Ill check Ian's stuff and anticpate yours ...

As you know, the ProveIt is now terminated as an INEX track, but we still hope 
to write a paper to a journal, summarizing what was done, and it would be nice 
to have you on.

AND, youll be happy (or shocked) to know that this week I used your INEX paper 
from 2011 as an example 
of practice-near research in a seminar I was running for them, and they had 
an assignment to right a reflection note in advance where they associate your 
stuff with their own assignment.

Michael

Fra: Tom Burton-West [tburt...@umich.edu]
Sendt: 30. oktober 2013 20:26
To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
Emne: Re: Evaluating a SOLR index with trec_eval

Hi Michael,

I know you are asking about Solr, but in case you haven't seen it, Ian
Soboroff has a nice little demo for Lucene:

https://github.com/isoboroff/trec-demo.

There is also the lucene benchmark code:
http://lucene.apache.org/core/4_5_1/benchmark/org/apache/lucene/benchmark/quality/package-summary.html

Otherwise, all I can think of is writing an app layer that keeps track of
the id, sends the query to Solr, parses the search results and spits out
results in the trec format.  I'd love to find some open-source code that
does what you ask.

I did a quick and dirty version of something like that for the INEX book
track.  I'll see if I can find the code and if it is in any shape to share.

Tom

Tom Burton-West
Information Retrieval Programmer
Digital Library Production Sevice
University of Michigan Library
tburt...@umich.edu
http://www.hathitrust.org/blogs/large-scale-search


On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Michael Preminger 
michael.premin...@hioa.no wrote:

 Hello!

 Is there a simple way to evaluate a SOLR index with TREC_EVAL?
 I mean:
 *  preparing a query file in some format Solr will understand, but where
 each query has an ID
 * getting results out in trec format, with these query IDs attached

 Thanks

 Michael



SV: Evaluating a SOLR index with trec_eval

2013-10-30 Thread Michael Preminger
... AND appologies to everyone for erroneously posting irrelevant stuff on the 
list.

Michael

Fra: Michael Preminger [michael.premin...@hioa.no]
Sendt: 30. oktober 2013 20:34
To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
Emne: SV: Evaluating a SOLR index with trec_eval

Hi, Tom!
Thanks alot. Ill check Ian's stuff and anticpate yours ...

As you know, the ProveIt is now terminated as an INEX track, but we still hope 
to write a paper to a journal, summarizing what was done, and it would be nice 
to have you on.

AND, youll be happy (or shocked) to know that this week I used your INEX paper 
from 2011 as an example
of practice-near research in a seminar I was running for them, and they had 
an assignment to right a reflection note in advance where they associate your 
stuff with their own assignment.

Michael

Fra: Tom Burton-West [tburt...@umich.edu]
Sendt: 30. oktober 2013 20:26
To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
Emne: Re: Evaluating a SOLR index with trec_eval

Hi Michael,

I know you are asking about Solr, but in case you haven't seen it, Ian
Soboroff has a nice little demo for Lucene:

https://github.com/isoboroff/trec-demo.

There is also the lucene benchmark code:
http://lucene.apache.org/core/4_5_1/benchmark/org/apache/lucene/benchmark/quality/package-summary.html

Otherwise, all I can think of is writing an app layer that keeps track of
the id, sends the query to Solr, parses the search results and spits out
results in the trec format.  I'd love to find some open-source code that
does what you ask.

I did a quick and dirty version of something like that for the INEX book
track.  I'll see if I can find the code and if it is in any shape to share.

Tom

Tom Burton-West
Information Retrieval Programmer
Digital Library Production Sevice
University of Michigan Library
tburt...@umich.edu
http://www.hathitrust.org/blogs/large-scale-search


On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Michael Preminger 
michael.premin...@hioa.no wrote:

 Hello!

 Is there a simple way to evaluate a SOLR index with TREC_EVAL?
 I mean:
 *  preparing a query file in some format Solr will understand, but where
 each query has an ID
 * getting results out in trec format, with these query IDs attached

 Thanks

 Michael